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Speaker 1: And if you're listening to the show. Yesterday we received

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Speaker 1: a call from Catherine who got in contact after her

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Speaker 1: much loved ninety nine year old Nan Well the lawn

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Speaker 1: mowing which is usually undertaken at her place by prisoners

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Speaker 1: cut due to what's believed to be an onflow of

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Speaker 1: the massive influx of prisoners at our correctional centers. So

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Speaker 1: my understanding is that we usually have low security prisoners

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Speaker 1: helping territory seniors with their lawns, but as a result

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Speaker 1: of the fact that we've got so many prisoners, some

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Speaker 1: of those programs aren't happening at the moment. Now joining

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Speaker 1: me on the line is the CEO of Coach Other

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Speaker 1: Council of the Aging here in the Northern Territory, Sue Sheer.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Sue, good morning, How are you long time

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Speaker 1: bad Thank you so much for your time this morning. Sue. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether you heard us chatting yesterday about

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Speaker 1: this beautiful ninety nine year old woman in Nightcliffe who

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Speaker 1: has had this lawn mowing cut, well not cut, I

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Speaker 1: should probably is a better way to put it. Hasn't

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Speaker 1: been mode because those prisoners are no longer in the

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Speaker 1: situation where they're able to go out there and help

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Speaker 1: our seeing.

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Speaker 2: Its Yeah, we're getting three calls, three or four calls

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Speaker 2: a day saying, you know, we can we help. But

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Speaker 2: I've also heard what they've told us is that they're

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Speaker 2: waiting for them to turn up and they just haven't

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Speaker 2: turned up. So they haven't even been advised that they're

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Speaker 2: not turning up. That's what we're being told. So that

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Speaker 2: they've called up and then they've been told no, it

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Speaker 2: won't happen, and very upset and as I explained I

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Speaker 2: think before, we have a home maintenance program, but that's

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Speaker 2: mainly maintenance, and we just can't go out and buy

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Speaker 2: you know, lawn mowers and things like that. So really,

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Speaker 2: you know, if they really want it, and we've got

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Speaker 2: volunteers waiting to help, so give us the equipment and

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Speaker 2: we'll do it. You know, we'll make sure it's done properly.

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Speaker 2: It's a sad situation with communication when they don't even

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Speaker 2: actually contact the people that they're that seniors who wait

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Speaker 2: around for them to come and nothing happens, and then

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Speaker 2: they call up and no, it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: So it's really a sad state of affairs and the

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Speaker 2: communications sadly lacking.

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Speaker 1: So how many territorians, how many senior territories would usually

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Speaker 1: be the beneficiaries of their lawns being mow by the

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Speaker 1: low security prisoners.

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Speaker 2: I don't have that, but I say a fair few.

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Speaker 2: And also realism, not for profit people, I would assume,

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Speaker 2: like netball and t and all around, they do quite

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Speaker 2: a lot actually, which is good, but we wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: able to do those because they've got some very healthy

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Speaker 2: people on their boards and things like that. But for

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Speaker 2: seniors who haven't got anybody to do it, and we

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Speaker 2: have to remember too, it can be a health hazard.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the longer the grass gets, we have those

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Speaker 2: you know, it is a yearit of snake in Chinese ideas,

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Speaker 2: so those little creatures consider around in that grass as well,

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Speaker 2: and it's just not good having the long grass really

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Speaker 2: for a health reason as well.

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Speaker 1: And so it makes me think as well. You know, fundamentally,

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Speaker 1: if our seniors are healthy enough and able bodied enough

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Speaker 1: to be able to live at home, we want them

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Speaker 1: to be able to stay at home. But they need

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Speaker 1: that support in some different ways because while they may

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Speaker 1: still be able bodied to do some things mowing your

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Speaker 1: lawns a very different story.

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Speaker 2: A very different story during especially as we know, the

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Speaker 2: glass grows as you look at it, and we'd like to,

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Speaker 2: we'd like to. Unfortunately, you know, it's called the green season,

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Speaker 2: not called the green season for nothing up here. But

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Speaker 2: the other thing that I want to get in touch

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Speaker 2: with the lady if you could, wouldn't mind the number.

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Speaker 2: If she has an age care package, she can also

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Speaker 2: get gardening. But again on the age care package for

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Speaker 2: a lot of seniors, they have to wait a year

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Speaker 2: to get that package. So it really is a much

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Speaker 2: needed service as well. So you know, we'd call out

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Speaker 2: if you want something done, give it to private industry

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Speaker 2: or give it to a not for profit and guess what,

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Speaker 2: we just do it.

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Speaker 1: You don't muck around, so we know. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: know that I know that about you. Now if there

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Speaker 1: is if there is, you know, I guess if there's

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Speaker 1: some regal room here though from corrections, and I know

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Speaker 1: they're under the pump, like we can all see that

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Speaker 1: they're absolutely under the pump. So I certainly don't want

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Speaker 1: to be kicking the you know, in the guts while

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Speaker 1: they're already struggling with five hundred extra prisoners. However, if

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Speaker 1: there is some regal room here, if there's a way

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Speaker 1: to be able to continue to look after us, seeing

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Speaker 1: is surely to be a good.

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Speaker 2: Thing, I think so. I think they could probably get

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Speaker 2: together with us. And I know also the Men Shared.

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Speaker 2: We work very closely with the men shed. They also

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Speaker 2: do home maintenance. But again I don't think they've got

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Speaker 2: any of that equipment. I mean, not for profits like

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Speaker 2: them and us. We just can't go out and spend

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Speaker 2: ten to twenty thousand on lawnmowers, you know, so unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: but there are quite a few things around. I'd say

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Speaker 2: let's all have a meeting together. And also the lovely

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Speaker 2: past member for going to TJ Purk is going around

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Speaker 2: rowing lawns for seniors, which.

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Speaker 1: Is I want you know that she isn't she good?

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Speaker 2: Can't keep you good?

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Speaker 1: How to trouble That's for sure? She will always be

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Speaker 1: working hard. Hey, before I let you go, just very

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Speaker 1: quickly sue, because I don't have a lot of time.

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Speaker 1: But we did just catch up with the Independent Member

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Speaker 1: for Johnson, Justine Davis. Now she had said that she

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Speaker 1: has absolutely put on the parliamentary agenda to debate or

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Speaker 1: discuss the voluntary assisted dying will to try and get

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Speaker 1: it back on the agenda. You and I have spoken

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Speaker 1: about this before. What do you think needs to happen here?

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Speaker 2: And well, Justine needs to do and she can talk

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Speaker 2: to Daryl Mandy like I have been and Marshall parn

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Speaker 2: a Private Members bill. It's pretty simple. We just wait

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Speaker 2: for our senior's voice next month. There's a big heating

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Speaker 2: on there via how long do we have to wait?

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Speaker 2: It's thirty years. So we're going hard next month, very

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Speaker 2: very hard. We understand crimes being very important, but this

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Speaker 2: is very important to territorians as well, so we're going

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Speaker 2: to go hard. And we've got Marshall doing an article

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Speaker 2: and Darryl and if possible, another interview with you. With

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Speaker 2: Marshall on the line and Daryl coming in. It's a

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Speaker 2: very simple process.

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Speaker 1: We'd be more than happy to continue to discuss it,

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Speaker 1: so you know me, We're always happy to talk about

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Speaker 1: the issues that are important to territorians. So thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for having a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry it's a quick one, but I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time today.

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Speaker 2: No problem, pleasure as always, Katie, Thank you