Speaker 1: Matthew, Yes, when your girls were a lot small.
Speaker 2: Now, now, did you have any funky sleeping techniques?
Speaker 1: We did one thing with Marley, only Mary, not Lola.
Speaker 3: But when she would go to sleep, the way that
Speaker 3: we would get her to sleep would be us rocking
Speaker 3: her in our arms. We would then transition her while
Speaker 3: she was asleep in our arms into her bed, her
Speaker 3: cot and as you know, when you take your hands away,
Speaker 3: they wake up, see you, then rock again.
Speaker 1: So every sleep took at least forty five minutes, the
Speaker 1: dreaded transition. What did you do? We had the butt pat,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 2: And we speak about it in this episode with Whipper
Speaker 2: and matt You know Whipper from.
Speaker 3: Where Nova back in the day used to work with them,
Speaker 3: did you, well?
Speaker 1: Not really, I had a Saturday morning radio show. He
Speaker 1: had a real radio.
Speaker 2: You would know him from Fitzy Whipper and Kate Ritchie
Speaker 2: in the mornings.
Speaker 3: Yes, and he talks about a really strange type of
Speaker 3: technique that he is with his daughter Francesca back when
Speaker 3: he was trying to get hurt asleep.
Speaker 2: Mister Whip is married to wife Lisa and they have
Speaker 2: three kids, Ted, Jack and Francesca.
Speaker 1: Oh what did you call it Frankie, Friend Friend Frankie.
Speaker 1: We tried.
Speaker 2: We cover a bit about sleep in this chat, and
Speaker 2: we also hear how Whipper tackles those random existential questions
Speaker 2: that young kids tend.
Speaker 1: To ask, like what is God? There was a condom
Speaker 1: question in there too, wasn't there.
Speaker 3: In sex as well? All the good stuff anyway, I
Speaker 3: hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 4: Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to three doting dads. I'm so sorry. Good
Speaker 1: I am Maddie, Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Michael John
Speaker 1: Whipley from the Whippley Family.
Speaker 2: Tell that you've done X amount of years of a
Speaker 2: lot of flying time on the Best.
Speaker 3: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,
Speaker 3: it is the bad and related.
Speaker 1: I only said you were London.
Speaker 3: We apologize, mister Whipper. We do not give any advice
Speaker 3: on this podcast. But I can only assume that today's
Speaker 3: episode is going to be a drenching of knowledge and
Speaker 3: ash Ni are ready for it, sure.
Speaker 1: That he can. I bring something up quickly.
Speaker 5: I was really keen to get one of some of
Speaker 5: your merch not the calendar we were talking about earlier.
Speaker 1: But there must be nice because I just I've got
Speaker 1: to mate by the name of Hamish Blake. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got We've got five. You didn't honestly, it must
Speaker 1: be nicer, did it?
Speaker 5: I mean it's fine. I mean it's the podcast world
Speaker 5: and the entertainment world is a friendly area, is it?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 5: What about just thinking if we put a French flag
Speaker 5: on it and it was just must.
Speaker 1: Be niece and you could sell them internationally?
Speaker 5: Right, so sort a rep shared deal with some tourism stand.
Speaker 1: Where are we must be niece? That is gold? I
Speaker 1: don't know, We're very good. What do you think? People
Speaker 1: have responded very positive? One review we go Hamish? Is
Speaker 1: that aymous?
Speaker 3: It's anonymous? Hey, no, one's perfect. Definitely not us.
Speaker 1: No, they're not anyway back to the drawing, Sorry, where
Speaker 1: were parents?
Speaker 3: Don't we do a bit of a how you say,
Speaker 3: like psycho analysis on the guests? We always try ash
Speaker 3: and I talk about what was the guest like when
Speaker 3: they were younger?
Speaker 1: Do you think?
Speaker 3: And we feel like we figured you out and tell
Speaker 3: us if we're way off the mark here off, we're
Speaker 3: flying pretty close to home. I feel like as a youngster,
Speaker 3: you were somebody who was everyone's best friend. I feel
Speaker 3: like the students would have loved you, the teachers would
Speaker 3: have hated you. Would have had a few favorite teachers,
Speaker 3: but you would have been the disruptor.
Speaker 1: Class clown is.
Speaker 5: I would say everyone's friend. Yeah, I was that kind
Speaker 5: of guy, that kind of guy, very arrogant. You said
Speaker 5: it first.
Speaker 1: I could have just given a thumbs up for the podcast.
Speaker 1: You're on the right train. You can hear the thumb But.
Speaker 5: Then no, goody two shoes, not class clown, but was
Speaker 5: very much.
Speaker 1: Now you do that, now you do that, encourage. I
Speaker 1: was the backing to make sure that the real class
Speaker 1: clown could do it. Job puppet masters you will. I
Speaker 1: did very quick to do it.
Speaker 5: It was him that is disgusting behavior.
Speaker 1: Kick him out.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I would swap very quickly from supporting role.
Speaker 1: How did you figure that out? Was did something happen? No?
Speaker 5: I just didn't want to get in trouble. My dad
Speaker 5: was very strict with things like that, and when he
Speaker 5: would say to you, you're better than that, that's when
Speaker 5: you knew not to behave badly. So like a spitball
Speaker 5: from the back of the classroom onto a TV would
Speaker 5: have been outrageous behavior for me.
Speaker 1: So that's where I hadn't made it. Eglinn, I would
Speaker 1: do a lot of Eddie. I've got a great idea
Speaker 1: for today. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I even talked to England into wed like an assembly
Speaker 5: hall that had a fire extinguisher up the back. I
Speaker 5: even talked him into putting a rubber between the handle, right,
Speaker 5: rubber like an eraser, putting in between the handle that
Speaker 5: you squeeze down.
Speaker 1: On a firing extinguished, and then putting fishing line around
Speaker 1: the rubber, which ran down the side of the wall
Speaker 1: all and then nailed across you know those hoop nails,
Speaker 1: so he could stand outside assembly and pull the rubber,
Speaker 1: which sprayed the fire hydrant. And once again it was him.
Speaker 1: I mean I bought them to school.
Speaker 5: I gave him all the parts to make the bomb
Speaker 5: the silent, and then sat there and enjoyed the spray
Speaker 5: until until she too. What sir, If I knew anything
Speaker 5: about that, I would have stopped that guy.
Speaker 6: He now he's imprison He lacked away, he's doing nine.
Speaker 1: Even the color red's bad for him.
Speaker 3: Did you ever have in your report cards wish he
Speaker 3: would apply himself NonStop?
Speaker 1: Did you pick that as well? Yeah? Psycho analysis, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: mine's the same they pulled me into class. I mean
Speaker 1: I got yet twelve.
Speaker 5: I got sixteen point six rounded up to seventeen out
Speaker 5: of one hundred on all of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which was what was I'm a Queensland so
Speaker 1: we had is it like golf in the lower the
Speaker 1: school about? Unfortunately not? She can't flip it on its head. Essentially,
Speaker 1: you got seventeen percent. Yeah, brains, So what's so funny
Speaker 1: seventeen jumping in? What's so funny about it's just a
Speaker 1: little bit lower? Yeah? I expected as well. Did that
Speaker 1: surprise you at all? No?
Speaker 5: I didn't do anything at a great time at school,
Speaker 5: but never applied myself academically. It just wasn't my thing.
Speaker 5: But I remember they had there was sort of two
Speaker 5: rankings in year twelve to join a hierarchy, so you
Speaker 5: could become a school officer, and there was maybe I
Speaker 5: don't know eighty school officers.
Speaker 1: Is that like a prefect?
Speaker 5: Well, the prefect was a graduation from the school officer,
Speaker 5: and I would say there was probably twenty. And they
Speaker 5: called a meeting and I was in the meeting with
Speaker 5: mum and dad and the head of year twelve, and
Speaker 5: they said, we really like Michael, and I said escape
Speaker 5: really well, I'm flying here, guys both streaming him, and
Speaker 5: it's terrific that he is a school officer. We'd love
Speaker 5: to make him a prefect, but he just doesn't. He
Speaker 5: doesn't do anything. Why don't you do anything?
Speaker 1: Just the presence was the energy guy, I was like
Speaker 1: a personality, higher personality, the energy, the moods high. Did
Speaker 1: you want to be prefect? Did you want that?
Speaker 5: About if I had to work? But I don't think so,
Speaker 5: But I sort of, I don't know. There was a
Speaker 5: moment where I thought you ignorant fools for thinking that
Speaker 5: the academic assessment equaled prefect when as a school officer.
Speaker 2: Highly ranged, Yeah, popularity, contest, house captain.
Speaker 1: You knew that too.
Speaker 2: A sports house captain, no, just house captain, house captain.
Speaker 1: Overall, so not sports house, Well, sport was under house.
Speaker 1: You're over yeah, sort of the.
Speaker 3: Lordship and that's where you so when you directed the
Speaker 3: orders as house captain, people would have to just follow
Speaker 3: with our question.
Speaker 1: Yes, without question.
Speaker 5: So I've always been in a very very powerful position
Speaker 5: throughout my life.
Speaker 1: How do you think the podcast is going? At what
Speaker 1: point did you think I think I'm going to work
Speaker 1: in media. I always thought it would be fun. I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember doing I don't know, I sort of I
Speaker 1: played in I played in a little band for a while.
Speaker 1: The cover band was a little platinum. Yeah, platinum, Platinum, Yeah, Platinum.
Speaker 1: Performed probably once or twice ever. Yeah, So it was
Speaker 1: really weird, chicked down venues. We picked our times.
Speaker 5: It didn't take off, but we used to play guitar
Speaker 5: at a few twenty firsts. And around that time too,
Speaker 5: Andy Lee had a band with his brother and he
Speaker 5: was doing twenty first as well, And then we had
Speaker 5: so many parties going on. We'd be emceeing or giving
Speaker 5: speeches and Andy would be there with his guitar doing
Speaker 5: this thing with his brother. They're do an acoustic set,
Speaker 5: probably not as advanced as Platinum, but that's kind of
Speaker 5: how I think. I don't know, the entertainment started.
Speaker 1: You've got the taste for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your dad's opinion of how this is unfolding?
Speaker 3: Knowing that you've got the sixteen point six. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: now a musician, which is a tough.
Speaker 1: Industry, playing at lots of clubs. He dad's different to me.
Speaker 5: He's quite a straight guy, but he'll always say he'll
Speaker 5: make you know what he does, he delivers sort of
Speaker 5: it's a loaded compliment.
Speaker 1: So he'll say I had the show the other day.
Speaker 5: Like, oh yeah, what'd you think? And he goes, well,
Speaker 5: I suppose you need to ask yourself the question what
Speaker 5: do you want to be known for? That was so
Speaker 5: he'll say that, he'll go between the lines, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: oh no, because he'll call me Mikey, Mikey, and what
Speaker 5: have I done here?
Speaker 1: And then he'll make his comment.
Speaker 5: Then he'll go but I know nothing about the game,
Speaker 5: but I know nothing about the industry and the tracks.
Speaker 1: Was he trying to steer you in a different direction?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: He was always supportive of whatever I wanted to do.
Speaker 5: So when I left school, I went and did a
Speaker 5: TAFE course in building management.
Speaker 1: So I could.
Speaker 5: He looked like a foreman, more hands on them, the tools.
Speaker 5: But so I did that for a while and then
Speaker 5: like project management, worked on site for a while and
Speaker 5: then but always wanted to get into radio.
Speaker 1: Did a short course. That's what I did. Did your
Speaker 1: dad approve of Lisa? Then? I issue, ah, yes he did,
Speaker 1: still does, which is great news. How is that initial meeting?
Speaker 1: I think it was good. I don't think it was
Speaker 1: a nervous time.
Speaker 5: I just remember when i'd met her and I realized
Speaker 5: I met somebody very special, and being in the car
Speaker 5: with Dad, wanted to tell him now he don't know
Speaker 5: how to approach those conversations, whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: Sports. I remember sitting down, I completely forgot about this.
Speaker 1: Oh here we go. I was telling Mom and Dad
Speaker 1: that I was going to propose to her, and.
Speaker 5: Then I said, do you know what, guys, at least
Speaker 5: and I going away in June, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to propose to her. But Dad must have missed
Speaker 1: something because he goes proposed to who? I mean, what
Speaker 1: do you mean? Who?
Speaker 5: I've just done my whole spiel about how much she
Speaker 5: means to me and how exciting it is.
Speaker 1: How long have you guys been again? Year? Eighteen months?
Speaker 1: You still saying?
Speaker 5: And I was like emotional, and I said to I
Speaker 5: think Mom started to tear up.
Speaker 1: Dad was still trying to put the pieces. He misread
Speaker 1: the whole. When you're excited to share something with someone
Speaker 1: so close, you know you're waiting for that moment.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Dad will remember the moment I said
Speaker 5: that I'd found my life.
Speaker 1: But who oh John, please keep up.
Speaker 3: That was a battle, but he gave it when he
Speaker 3: realized who it was. Two thumbs are he's on board.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was always on board.
Speaker 5: And then what I did was I wanted to do
Speaker 5: the traditional thing of asking Lisa's parents, Deborah and David,
Speaker 5: if I had their permission to marry their daughter. But
Speaker 5: they lived on the Goldie So I said to Lisa,
Speaker 5: you know what, I need a new suit. So I'm
Speaker 5: going to go into the city and I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Look for a suit all day long. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: going to spend eight hours looking at them. I hate
Speaker 1: trying to straight to the airport, got on the fly.
Speaker 1: I had them for lunch. What came back. I couldn't
Speaker 1: ring them. I didn't want to do that. I wanted
Speaker 1: to sit down and eyeball them.
Speaker 5: I wanted to, But when you wanted their reaction from
Speaker 5: when you organized lunch, they know what you're flying in?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I don't. Just I just wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about a future finance. What do you think about
Speaker 1: the state of politics? Let me fly up to the
Speaker 1: Gold Coast of talk you through. Yeah. They were they've
Speaker 1: like nicely dressed and it was wonderful.
Speaker 5: We had a great lunch, and then I got home,
Speaker 5: got back on them playing, got home and least it
Speaker 5: was like, where's the suit. By that stage, I'd forgotten
Speaker 5: about the suit story because I was so you know,
Speaker 5: swept up.
Speaker 1: And in the moment of you know, the meeting we
Speaker 1: just had. And then I said, oh, yeah, found the tailor.
Speaker 5: It's getting measured and stuff. They're like alterations. I'll pick
Speaker 5: it up next week.
Speaker 1: So I then had to go and buy a suit
Speaker 1: after that, And now you have a nice suit and
Speaker 1: wife and she still loves me.
Speaker 3: Do you remember when you and Lisa started having the
Speaker 3: conversation about starting a family?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I remember. You never know, you never know
Speaker 5: how long it'll take. I suppose you go through those times,
Speaker 5: but you're also kind of deciding the level of commitment
Speaker 5: you want to make to making the baby.
Speaker 1: How do you mean, well, do.
Speaker 5: We just get it on, you know, randomly in the
Speaker 5: routine and we're already in like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 5: Chuesday and art and there's nothing on TV, you know,
Speaker 5: or do we want to go Okay, well, let's find
Speaker 5: out when you're ovulating and then we'll try and strike when.
Speaker 1: The iron's hot more. Do you do that theory of
Speaker 1: thirty days by bank can't miss? I would ruin.
Speaker 5: Well that's what I was, that it could ruin. So yes,
Speaker 5: I remember having that conversation. I think we just kind
Speaker 5: of randomly cruised through it for a while until we
Speaker 5: got the ovulation thing that you spit on on.
Speaker 1: We've never done that.
Speaker 5: You put it on the tongue, and it says if
Speaker 5: maybe she wheezed on it, it would make more sense
Speaker 5: to we.
Speaker 1: On it does? It does?
Speaker 2: Hang on?
Speaker 5: Sorry, The tongue was the drug test that was different
Speaker 5: when right now, I'm sure you can do it with saliva.
Speaker 5: I think either way, it'll tell you where the ovulation
Speaker 5: period is, and then you get in and fight for
Speaker 5: your life, you know, let's wrestle. But we were lucky
Speaker 5: enough that it worked quite easily, I think until two months,
Speaker 5: and you hear some really challenging stories. So I remember
Speaker 5: thinking that's fantastic. Then Ted was born, and then surprise, surprise,
Speaker 5: wonderful news seven months.
Speaker 1: Later, a whole birth of Ted. Shit, she was pregnant again.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I was the father, so we got
Speaker 1: we found some consistency there. But Jack was a wonderful
Speaker 1: surprise to us, but you know, we couldn't have wished
Speaker 1: for anything more. And then we were lucky enough to
Speaker 1: strategically think, will we go again in the hope of
Speaker 1: getting a little girl? And we did? Was the plan
Speaker 1: always for three? Was that always on the card? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so. If we could have a third, we
Speaker 1: would go for it. And we did.
Speaker 5: We did, which was fantastic, and Francesca came along quickly.
Speaker 5: Too personal, But yes, there are different techniques to get
Speaker 5: the girl to the.
Speaker 3: Boy, Jack and THEO. Did you find out at birth
Speaker 3: the sex?
Speaker 1: Did you do a reveal? How did it happen with
Speaker 1: your first two? Ted? We didn't find out. I don't
Speaker 1: hate people do that, but my god, I was so excited.
Speaker 5: H just a big plum like bull bag.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, man, that's the best set of plums ever.
Speaker 1: Did wild swingers you know?
Speaker 5: Were they like long or they hopefully listens back?
Speaker 3: Did you say anything to those in the room midwife?
Speaker 3: He's beautiful, But yeah, I think every parent gets quite
Speaker 3: a shock at the look of the the Genitalia.
Speaker 2: I got a shock just looking at the at him,
Speaker 2: at my because my eldest is a boy too, and
Speaker 2: he popped him out.
Speaker 1: He was screaming. I was like he was, and that
Speaker 1: was the fathering instinct straight away. You got to protest.
Speaker 1: It's a one way it's a one way ash.
Speaker 5: But then I found out with Jack that it was
Speaker 5: going to be a boy, just from a planning point
Speaker 5: of view, and then with Francesca it was taken out
Speaker 5: of my hands and fits he very generously.
Speaker 1: Gender reveal.
Speaker 3: I absolutely love gender reveal. You did you have any
Speaker 3: input at all in the concertle.
Speaker 1: No, he was kind enough to organize. It's so nice
Speaker 1: to him. Do you know what we did? We did
Speaker 1: a gender reveal cake for Jack.
Speaker 5: Forgot about that, so Lisa's mum cut the cake on
Speaker 5: her birthday. We found out it was going to be
Speaker 5: a boy. That's how we knew about it.
Speaker 1: Appropriate.
Speaker 5: So in my mind, gender reveal was done like we
Speaker 5: didn't have to do a gender reveal.
Speaker 1: Enter Ryan James Fitzgerald. Oh mate, I've got the best plan.
Speaker 1: Or you're gonna love it, mane, you're gonna love it?
Speaker 1: Is it very mean? Is something I'd really like? Because yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to Easton Creek Speedway. You are there quite often.
Speaker 5: That's the thing I would have loved some on this
Speaker 5: podcast earlier, but you know I'm always doing Yeah.
Speaker 1: I get.
Speaker 5: So he organized a gender burnout, which and the kids
Speaker 5: were there. So FITZI was in the back of some
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know anything about cars.
Speaker 2: Let's say it was a holding commodore, ill a commodore.
Speaker 5: It was Commodore, and I don't know what model it
Speaker 5: was for something, but the tires were perfect. It was
Speaker 5: ready to go. All we had to do was stand
Speaker 5: there and wait to see if the smoke from the rubber.
Speaker 1: Tires was pink or bloody blue. Mate, while FITZI was
Speaker 1: in the back seat with a helmet on, yelling out
Speaker 1: the back we would have it. Yeah, we need it's
Speaker 1: just spinning around in circles.
Speaker 5: Why we were pretended to be emotionally moved by the reveal,
Speaker 5: but more devastated we were watching fits in the back
Speaker 5: of a commodore.
Speaker 2: There's nothing more astral nothing more Australian, than that people.
Speaker 1: Are dying with gender reveals.
Speaker 5: Have you seen that someone will fly over dropping a
Speaker 5: color of smoke out of a.
Speaker 1: Plane and you guys wanting to say that there's another
Speaker 1: baby on the way.
Speaker 2: And I've had a sexy oh a crowd owner of congratulations,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: I was wondering why you had that so brave? Is
Speaker 1: it sore? Still? Some people live with soreness? Show on
Speaker 1: the scarce? Okay, did where did we're in the sack?
Speaker 1: Did they go so? Isn't it they go? No? Underneath?
Speaker 1: I thought it was under the balls. He had one
Speaker 1: of these done, and I said, where do they go in?
Speaker 1: They go in?
Speaker 5: I don't know, mate, have you not even looked you've
Speaker 5: had an incision made in your testicles?
Speaker 2: I already had a scar on my nuts from what from?
Speaker 2: You don't know this story?
Speaker 1: Your first sectomy?
Speaker 2: Call it a sext to me? No, No, I had
Speaker 2: it to what they called it, twisted testicle?
Speaker 1: Oh right, when I was fourteen years of age. I
Speaker 1: was saving it for this episode.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, let's go into this because Ted said
Speaker 5: to me the other night, the teacher spoke to us
Speaker 5: about twisted testicles.
Speaker 1: How did they get twisted? You're playing soccer? I was surfing.
Speaker 2: I surfed a lot that day, and then I got
Speaker 2: this really big picture when you ball up a rubber
Speaker 2: band that they said when they opened me up, that's
Speaker 2: what that's what it looked like and then they had
Speaker 2: to untwist it stitched to the sidewalls.
Speaker 1: I've already got a scar down the middle, like in
Speaker 1: the middle of my nuts. Not yet.
Speaker 5: No, there was a guy at school who in a
Speaker 5: similar situation, and his name was we used to call
Speaker 5: him Buchers.
Speaker 1: And because I had missed like two weeks of.
Speaker 5: School and the this was in your nine Bruce Brown
Speaker 5: was the year later. Bruce Brown got up and said,
Speaker 5: now you might have been a bit concerned about Bukers.
Speaker 5: He's had a twisted testicle, so his testinges are going
Speaker 5: to be fine, but he'll be back to school very soon.
Speaker 1: He's had an operation on his balls, so what do
Speaker 1: you reckon? He was called for the rest of school.
Speaker 1: He was twisties. I was one nut.
Speaker 2: Well, my friends used to see me wonder Wall, but
Speaker 2: instead of wonder Wall, it was one ball classic classics.
Speaker 1: That's not funny, that's not yeah.
Speaker 2: I had a friend that was very insensitive when I
Speaker 2: did have just after I had the surgery, he saw
Speaker 2: me a couple of days later. He would pretend to
Speaker 2: sackwhack me so that he wouldn't actually hit me, but
Speaker 2: I'd squeek my nuts were so swallen. I'd squeeze my
Speaker 2: legs together and the stitches would like it.
Speaker 1: Back to the incision of the sector. Where is it.
Speaker 2: It'd be in the same area of the scar down
Speaker 2: in the middle. So they do is they cut you open.
Speaker 2: There's two holes something.
Speaker 1: I hope I got me going. They actually.
Speaker 2: It's a bull ring actually, and they go in and
Speaker 2: they actually melt the tube.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of smell of burning skin. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was this smell. What's that smell? It's your balls, burning.
Speaker 3: Flesh and boiled seamen, boiled.
Speaker 2: I was sweating profusely, so much so they had to
Speaker 2: peel me off the bed like I was stuck to
Speaker 2: it like the leather the hospital, but like medical bed.
Speaker 2: And then you meant to rest and recover a bit.
Speaker 2: In said I went. I went out to the pub
Speaker 2: with the boys, and.
Speaker 1: Were you able to enjoy yourself?
Speaker 2: I clocked up fifteen k's on foot and I was swallowen,
Speaker 2: bruised up to my belly button.
Speaker 1: Yeah, up in the gay bar. My nuts are out.
Speaker 1: The whole night, was just showing everybody my black testicles.
Speaker 2: Actually, they I was bruised up to my belly button
Speaker 2: because I.
Speaker 1: Because you went out dancing all night. You know, I
Speaker 1: was prepared to do that. Except when Lisa, because she
Speaker 1: had a sea section, they tied her tubes during the
Speaker 1: sea section, so took the baby out and then you
Speaker 1: clamp the tubes so she can't get pregnant. The third one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, was that always part of the plan or
Speaker 3: was that in the surprise the plan got you.
Speaker 1: I mean I would have been happy to get the vasectomy.
Speaker 1: But then while we're in there, we mate what about
Speaker 1: your second marriage? So then that was kind of done,
Speaker 1: that was sold, it was fixed, so you know you
Speaker 1: don't have to have it anyway. Yeah, if you can
Speaker 1: show me the right gay club to go, Surry Hill,
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: When you If you were to have a map, let's
Speaker 3: plot out. Teddy come THEO.
Speaker 1: Not many, no one does.
Speaker 3: I've never heard him called to the I'll call him Teddy,
Speaker 3: then ted Jack, Francesca friend.
Speaker 1: Never Frankie.
Speaker 5: Frankie has been considered. Frankie was out initial idea. She
Speaker 5: gets a bit of cheska like.
Speaker 1: That asco sounds like a cocktail.
Speaker 3: Comes with a lot of attitude. When you look at
Speaker 3: who was easy, who was hard? Where do they rank?
Speaker 3: On that graph.
Speaker 1: It was a map. Yeah, what do you want? Ted
Speaker 1: was easy being the first and when they talked about
Speaker 1: the second being hard, Oh my god, Jack was hard
Speaker 1: in what way? Sleep? What we found out with Jack too,
Speaker 1: he was just it was grumpy. He was bloody grumpy.
Speaker 5: And then we got a baby whispering and we said, hey,
Speaker 5: what's wrong with this kid? And she said, he's exhausted,
Speaker 5: And I said, what do you mean? She said, he's
Speaker 5: not sleeping.
Speaker 1: So then we looked in his mouth and he had
Speaker 1: the world's biggest tonsils. Oh massive, He had a five
Speaker 1: milimeter gap down his throat. Could he breathe? Probably? So
Speaker 1: he had sleep app near So I would hold him.
Speaker 5: This was the most unnerving thing. You would hold him
Speaker 5: at night. He's a baby, he's one and a half.
Speaker 5: You'd hold him trying to get him to sleep. He'd
Speaker 5: fall asleep, and then he'd go like you would see
Speaker 5: a sixty year old man who's had far too much
Speaker 5: to drink, who's fallen asleep.
Speaker 1: He has probably got a bit of goup also, who's thirty three.
Speaker 5: So we very quickly then had his tonsils out and
Speaker 5: everything was fine.
Speaker 1: Took us a while to realize why he was angry.
Speaker 2: It's crazy how much impact tonsils and ad noises I
Speaker 2: have on and different impacts I haven't.
Speaker 1: Like I was telling you about, Lenny had his hour,
Speaker 1: he splk speaks completely different. Yeah, they do get completely
Speaker 1: changed Japanese. I think it's a former.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't understand, but that we've had it with
Speaker 5: all three of them. They all had massive tonsils, yes
Speaker 5: and tons.
Speaker 1: So that was a big game changer. And Francesca has
Speaker 1: been a hard sleeper as well from the get go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think this feels more tactical than what
Speaker 5: Jack presented. Jack was just a bad sleep because he
Speaker 5: couldn't sleep and he was tired, and Francesca was a
Speaker 5: little feels like it's been a little more loaded. Okay,
Speaker 5: I'll get them back in. Yeah I'm tired, but I'll
Speaker 5: get them back in. I make them work for this.
Speaker 1: Watch this. I've got them right here. What would you
Speaker 1: have to do?
Speaker 5: So we tried all sorts of stuff, anyone by one
Speaker 5: of those dolls that even had like a heartbeat or
Speaker 5: a vibration.
Speaker 1: We did that kids, so you feel loved by.
Speaker 5: But then we hired like with Tommy Ivy who you
Speaker 5: know Maddie from our radio show Great Man, Great Man,
Speaker 5: Thomas Bryan. He had like a like I'm not saying witchcraft,
Speaker 5: but someone who would almost perform a level of magic.
Speaker 5: So she would give us the routine of what you
Speaker 5: needed to do, and you'd follow that, and then what
Speaker 5: would happen?
Speaker 1: A rabbit would come, Rabbit, is this your car?
Speaker 5: You would do things where you had to like tap
Speaker 5: on the door, so you'd go, Francesca, it's time to sleep, and.
Speaker 1: You would do it again, Francesca, it is time to
Speaker 1: sleep on the door. It's sleep time now, Francesca. And
Speaker 1: at least I would be paid with a fortune with
Speaker 1: that going. This feels like one of the great cons Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you think is this a bit for radio?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Am I being conned?
Speaker 5: Here? It's a pink smoke stuff. If that didn't work,
Speaker 5: it would be Francesca, it's time to sleep.
Speaker 1: A scrap. Yeah, And what's the thought that.
Speaker 5: Maybe it was just creating some sort of sonic trigger
Speaker 5: to make her realize that we're not coming in anymore.
Speaker 5: But we're here, Yeah, we're here. So the art would
Speaker 5: be that you would then cut it back to just a.
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it it's good. It's really good.
Speaker 2: Morse code. Yeah, she's just gone back.
Speaker 1: But it worked. I mean now she's older, so she's
Speaker 1: sort of four now. So are you still tapping? Not tapping?
Speaker 1: Anyone tapping out? I'm gone. But do you know what's hilarious?
Speaker 1: Isn't that fascinating when you're a parent, how well you
Speaker 1: get to know every sound in your house. So when
Speaker 1: you're creeping.
Speaker 5: Out of a bedroom after padding a head or holding
Speaker 5: a hand, you then have to creep out of the house.
Speaker 1: You know, to walk on that side of the hallway.
Speaker 1: You know where the creek is, like it's going to creak. Really,
Speaker 1: hold on, old tap, you'll go to the one time
Speaker 1: there's the floor here it is that you are back out.
Speaker 2: Guilty you would you know every you know the creek
Speaker 2: and then my tap, my shower is on the other
Speaker 2: side of her wall.
Speaker 5: So then you have tactical times about when you can
Speaker 5: shower or you go downstairs to another bathroom.
Speaker 1: All those little things you pick up. You become like
Speaker 1: a bat with sonar hearing.
Speaker 5: If you're to be lying there and you and in
Speaker 5: your phone or vibrate where the message will come from.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, hell hell, we call me?
Speaker 3: How how were you and Lisa at this point when
Speaker 3: it before you got the witch for one of a
Speaker 3: better word into the house.
Speaker 5: Hard really hard, as any parent would know. It's a killer,
Speaker 5: isn't it?
Speaker 3: Did it hurt more because it's your third and you
Speaker 3: think we should have it kind of dialed at this point.
Speaker 1: I think one to two was harder. Really you always
Speaker 1: hear that, you do hear that, And I think the
Speaker 1: one is a shock where you have these moments of
Speaker 1: oh my god, what did we do with our time
Speaker 1: before we had this? What do we talk about? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And then two is just an extension. Two is a
Speaker 1: major shock and then a made of mine too.
Speaker 5: Back to Eddie Glenn, the fire hydrant guy, the fire
Speaker 5: exting chef, he's like he thinks he's a wise old
Speaker 5: man and he goes, mane, you've got no time when
Speaker 5: you have two. So what difference does it make when
Speaker 5: you have three? About thirty three percent? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 5: third harder.
Speaker 2: Again, So when Francesco, were you taking turns? And who's
Speaker 2: putting her back to sleep? Because was it you had
Speaker 2: to hold her hand.
Speaker 5: Or there's a lot of hand holding, and you would
Speaker 5: lie even when she was in the co Just lie on.
Speaker 1: The floor, wouldn't you. Yeah, and you just your hand
Speaker 1: is through the slats of the cot and you just
Speaker 1: holding in prison. Are you doing Morning Radio two? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you know those times where I sat there and
Speaker 1: it would be midnight and to stop her crying. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever did this. You put your
Speaker 1: little finger in their mouth and they just like a
Speaker 1: glassifier and they just suck on your fingers. So you
Speaker 1: wash your hands. I put a glove on like they
Speaker 1: did at the hospital. Who are you protecting her? Are you?
Speaker 1: This kid was filthy like COVID baby twenty twenty, riddled
Speaker 1: with her. You just never know, You never know where
Speaker 1: she's been.
Speaker 5: To give me something to mean, I couldn't do riddle
Speaker 5: time on a Friday, Sidney would be lost. So you'd
Speaker 5: lie at midnight and they'd be sucking on you pinky
Speaker 5: like it was a nipple, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: like a titch, and.
Speaker 1: You're like, what the fuck was doing in my life?
Speaker 1: And you think and they'd stop, and you go, can
Speaker 1: I move it now? And then you'd move and you'd
Speaker 1: be back in again.
Speaker 5: So it was just well, you know those times where
Speaker 5: you think, I don't know how I'm going to get
Speaker 5: through the next ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Do I bang my head against the wall or do
Speaker 1: I just drink?
Speaker 3: Did anyone say anything at work when you're coming in
Speaker 3: and you're operating obviously a much lower percentage because you
Speaker 3: just got no sleep. Is anyone saying, hey, whipp are
Speaker 3: you okay?
Speaker 1: No? Not really? Duty of care?
Speaker 5: Do you know what the hardest part is, Like we
Speaker 5: are on this podcast, it's a relief to share stories
Speaker 5: like it's a relief that you know that I know
Speaker 5: that we know what you've gone through and what we
Speaker 5: all do.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make it easier. It doesn't take away
Speaker 1: the thick of battle and when you're in there and
Speaker 1: you're going, oh my god, I don't I feel physically sick.
Speaker 1: I'm so tired.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Lisa had some postnatal depression. I'm there
Speaker 5: trying to do the right thing where half your job
Speaker 5: too as a dad. I think he's trying to do
Speaker 5: the right thing by the newborn. So you learn trying
Speaker 5: to learn it one hundred miles an hour, but then
Speaker 5: almost play a kick in front of your wife to
Speaker 5: work out what she's going to need and how I
Speaker 5: can help for whatever's around the corner. So that was
Speaker 5: sort of the panic, and I think a lot of
Speaker 5: Dad's experience as well.
Speaker 1: That is how I've dropped the tone slightly.
Speaker 5: No, I did highly impactful with the feelings and emotions.
Speaker 1: Man, am I right? Fellas Yeah, well said.
Speaker 3: When you talk about the fact that we're not sure
Speaker 3: whether we go for a third or night, and it
Speaker 3: does send a bit of a shiver down my spine
Speaker 3: when you talk to people who have, you know, when
Speaker 3: they're reminisced of time in the trenches, because for me,
Speaker 3: I've kind of erased all that, and you do because
Speaker 3: you like it.
Speaker 1: Was just forget fucking hell moments that were great. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget we w I'm going to after this record message.
Speaker 3: Laura and be like, I think we should just reconsider
Speaker 3: it because it's it's.
Speaker 1: What's life like now? Sensational? Okay, just the best. So
Speaker 1: tonight I'm going to her school for wild night and
Speaker 1: I'm dressed as a tiger and I can't wait wild
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's have wild night.
Speaker 5: Where you can turn up dressed to something. And I
Speaker 5: think because because because of radio, I think that the
Speaker 5: staff there at the kindergarten, feel like I must be
Speaker 5: village idiot.
Speaker 1: So I go all, can't wait to see what your
Speaker 1: dad Whipper's gonna wear it.
Speaker 5: So she comes home and says, are they really excited
Speaker 5: about what you're going to wear? Can you wear the
Speaker 5: cat suit? I don't have a choice. If I don't
Speaker 5: turn up, I'm a disappointment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bars there disappoint my daughter.
Speaker 7: So tonight I will be a cat and I can't
Speaker 7: want to be good luck with your eldest is nine
Speaker 7: nine now at the moment, I'm kind of thinking about
Speaker 7: the future with Marley.
Speaker 3: She's turning six next year. The kind of conversation. She's
Speaker 3: becoming very aware of the world around us, asking big questions.
Speaker 1: How is it with Ted?
Speaker 5: Ted and Jack are sort of a team, so quite
Speaker 5: often they'll be in the same position regarding questions, and
Speaker 5: there's some fascinating topics.
Speaker 1: What have you had to tackle?
Speaker 5: Like the other day we watched I get sick of
Speaker 5: watching YouTube shorts. Right, I watch a lot of YouTube
Speaker 5: shots like no, no, no, no, too much, too much, too quick.
Speaker 5: I want you to understand concentrationspan and really engaging in something,
Speaker 5: so I don't mind YouTube and I say, why don't we.
Speaker 5: I want it to be a learned experience, so I
Speaker 5: want adventure builds in or I want how's it made?
Speaker 5: So we watched how Crayon's made the other day and
Speaker 5: where they come from and how many crowns are made.
Speaker 1: I'm so bad.
Speaker 5: I mean, crowns are amazing. When they first launched, Crayola
Speaker 5: was the dominant playback then and still is today.
Speaker 1: Is it made out of rocks?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I can't remember. What is it? That's fat? That's fat? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fat. Let's filap Yeah, like horse, it's made from horse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they take it.
Speaker 5: They'll take a fourth leg off a dog. If you
Speaker 5: see a three legged.
Speaker 1: Dog, that's twenty four cranions right there. Wow, plus the
Speaker 1: one he's got. Still the next.
Speaker 5: Time, he's a crayon. Anyway, the prompt came up for
Speaker 5: the next video, how to make condoms?
Speaker 1: Okay, and then Jack said what's a condom? And Ted knew.
Speaker 1: I think I'd had a chat to Ted about it.
Speaker 5: For some reason, We've never really shied away from being
Speaker 5: honest about how things work. And Ted said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: I know that, and said to Jacket, it's like a
Speaker 5: balloon and you put it on your dude all and
Speaker 5: it'll stop you from making a baby.
Speaker 1: That's what I did. Was this the YouTube video or jacket?
Speaker 5: So then Jack said, this is where the extension of
Speaker 5: all these topics is where it gets interesting.
Speaker 1: So Jack then says, right, well, why would you have
Speaker 1: sex if you didn't want to make a baby? Very valid,
Speaker 1: very valid question.
Speaker 5: I said, it's because it can feel good and it
Speaker 5: can be fun. It's fun and it's something you do
Speaker 5: with someone that you love. Right, so then I want
Speaker 5: to have fun. Did you say, come into that? So
Speaker 5: I said, well, what does it feel like? And I said, well,
Speaker 5: it's like I said.
Speaker 1: It's like a massage, a massage a message the other
Speaker 1: day with the os that we went to. It's different
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 5: So it's different to So it does does it feel
Speaker 5: like when you go to Tanya.
Speaker 1: The messusses that feel the same as when you're with Mom?
Speaker 1: Sometimes it depends if it's really dark, and I don't
Speaker 1: actually know, it.
Speaker 5: Depends how much I've got and I don't know how
Speaker 5: to answer, you know, those questions.
Speaker 1: It's funny.
Speaker 3: I have this vivid memory of being so concerned. I
Speaker 3: can't remember how old I was, but I was like, Mom,
Speaker 3: how do you make sure you don't we whilst you're
Speaker 3: having sex?
Speaker 1: Right? Question? Just a sum it would come out. That
Speaker 1: was my biggest question.
Speaker 2: I was like, but how do you how does it
Speaker 2: not I've got I'm slightly traumatized. There's a school in
Speaker 2: my area called Santa Augustine that we used to call
Speaker 2: them and orgasms.
Speaker 1: And I said to my mom, oh, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and orgasms And she was like, would you like me
Speaker 1: to tell you what an orgasm is?
Speaker 2: And I was like twelve, and I remember this vividly
Speaker 2: and I was like, no, please don't and she can.
Speaker 2: She carried on, you know at that time, No, Nope,
Speaker 2: and she carried on to tell me intricately for forty
Speaker 2: five minutes what an orgasm was.
Speaker 1: That's a vivid memory. You've turned out like April's a
Speaker 1: lucky lady.
Speaker 2: Is because we still had an August because we then.
Speaker 5: Ted said had said earlier, you know how like when
Speaker 5: we got prior to this, how is the baby made?
Speaker 1: So I'd explained it, but then he still couldn't get
Speaker 1: his head around it. So he said, okay, so this
Speaker 1: so if it was this room in here.
Speaker 5: The sperm comes out of your painis it would go
Speaker 5: across the floor and then into's Johnny.
Speaker 1: We're not traveling that. If you can do that, they
Speaker 1: go back back. You got yourself an industry. So I
Speaker 1: once again I had to explain that the dude Ale
Speaker 1: goes into the Johnny and all of this, so they're
Speaker 1: always just I love that you're learning at the same time,
Speaker 1: so you don't have the written down answer and at
Speaker 1: the same time this you don't have any prep. You
Speaker 1: don't know when the question is going to come, which
Speaker 1: direction is going to turn? Quiz do you know the
Speaker 1: other one that I mentioned Because they go to a
Speaker 1: school which has a religious element to it. God made everything.
Speaker 5: Now I don't care what you believe in religious wise,
Speaker 5: whatever faith might mean to you, there are some basics
Speaker 5: which I think they need to understand, but it's hard
Speaker 5: to explain. So I want them to have a level
Speaker 5: of religious education so when they're older, you can make
Speaker 5: the decision whether you want to partake and follow by
Speaker 5: all means, and I think that's healthy for them to
Speaker 5: understand how other people might be thinking. So then you know,
Speaker 5: we did so we were doing some landscaping in the backyard,
Speaker 5: so it very quickly got to well, oh, God's God
Speaker 5: made the house because God makes everything because it's good.
Speaker 5: They said, God makes everything, so God's make doing the landscaping.
Speaker 5: The builders are doing the landscape. The builder is God,
Speaker 5: the build it. No no, no, no, So God, Well
Speaker 5: God made this house.
Speaker 1: God made Australia. You know God did Australia. Well you
Speaker 1: could say that way to creation of the world was
Speaker 1: for good. That might quickly so it gets to this
Speaker 1: point where.
Speaker 5: And then at the end of dinner, we'll sit the
Speaker 5: dinner and I go, okay, make sure we thank mom
Speaker 5: for dinner, and I'll say, well, yeah, God did go
Speaker 5: to dinner, and what you saw who made dinner?
Speaker 1: Thanks Mum for making dinner. That'd be awesome. I can't
Speaker 1: wait till Oscar. Oscar is already.
Speaker 2: Like so painful like that as well. And he's the
Speaker 2: same turning six. And he's always been such a good
Speaker 2: talker from like he came out screamingly, didn't stop screaming,
Speaker 2: and then just started talking.
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, and just.
Speaker 2: His line of questioning, break anyone down in the car
Speaker 2: and he's continued asking, You've asked a lot of really
Speaker 2: good questions today, buddy, but can you stop.
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny how Quie Often when you say, hey,
Speaker 1: great question, you're buying yourself time.
Speaker 2: If he didn't, I'll answer it.
Speaker 5: And at the moment, you know, we have Christmas on
Speaker 5: the way. So the elf on the shelf is out.
Speaker 5: Oh so elf on the shelf is out? Jack said
Speaker 5: the other day, hang on a minute, is the elf moving?
Speaker 5: Or are you moving the elf? And I said, well,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell you that, but I'm going
Speaker 5: to tell you something and I'll be very clear about
Speaker 5: it and go on. What's going on now? It's called
Speaker 5: the magic of Christmas. Oh, so the magic of Christmas
Speaker 5: can present all sorts of surprises, whether it's the elf
Speaker 5: moving by itself, the feeling of excitement, the tree in
Speaker 5: the corner of the room, it's all the magic of Christmases.
Speaker 1: Are you going to say it's God, God, move the elf?
Speaker 1: Callt me down.
Speaker 3: We have to congratulate you, by the way. Yes, you
Speaker 3: have been campaigning in recent months. I'm talking about thirty
Speaker 3: six months. You'll push to get the age for youngsters
Speaker 3: on social media raised from thirteen to sixteen. I wanted
Speaker 3: to know, Ash, and I weren't quite sure how you
Speaker 3: initially became involved involved in that campaign.
Speaker 5: It was a moment where, if you want all the detail,
Speaker 5: I was sitting on the toilet and I that great
Speaker 5: thinking time on the toilet, and I saw something and
Speaker 5: I've been talking about it with a mate, Rob Galutzo
Speaker 5: for a while, and then I saw something that's stayed
Speaker 5: by state.
Speaker 1: There were changes going on in.
Speaker 5: The US, and I just had this sinking moment where
Speaker 5: I thought, imagine, like in your Wireless dreams, it was
Speaker 5: almost a hypothetical. Imagine if we could change the age
Speaker 5: of kids joining social media from the platforms from thirteen
Speaker 5: to sixteen or that thirty.
Speaker 1: Six month period. And then I thought to myself, do
Speaker 1: you know what if you're not going to act on.
Speaker 5: A gut feeling like I had. That moved me so
Speaker 5: much in that moment. Shouldn't have said the toilet? But
Speaker 5: should I shouldn't have said the toilet bit then I thought,
Speaker 5: then what are you ever going to do? We're ever
Speaker 5: going to stand for? So Rob and I had been
Speaker 5: talking and then I said, hey, mate, why don't we
Speaker 5: do this? Why don't we launch this thing called thirty
Speaker 5: six months and drive a campaign to change the age
Speaker 5: Because the stories are just horrendous. You know, the statistics
Speaker 5: about the hospitalization of young teens from self harm, it's
Speaker 5: up two hundred and seventy five percent.
Speaker 1: Wow. They talk about I mean, Dove ran a fantastic
Speaker 1: campaign and it's the impact of social media, and their
Speaker 1: statistics read that one in two young girls will experience
Speaker 1: some psychological damage from the impact of social media. One
Speaker 1: in two.
Speaker 5: So we sit here now as parents and we think,
Speaker 5: imagine if there was a product on the shelf, like
Speaker 5: a shampoo, and every second person that used it had
Speaker 5: some sort of psychological damage, that product wouldn't be on
Speaker 5: the shelf for a second. More So, why does it
Speaker 5: exist now? And there are so many layers to this.
Speaker 5: So there's so many layers to the bullying and the creepiness,
Speaker 5: and the other side of the coin is the attention
Speaker 5: span of kids that they're selling and the smart algorithms.
Speaker 5: But you know, the bullying and the I mean social media.
Speaker 5: I think the best way to describe it, it's an
Speaker 5: insecurity amplifier. Oh yeah, and especially for young teens at
Speaker 5: such a sensitive time going through puberty, trying to find yourself,
Speaker 5: and you know, sort of what we've been saying is
Speaker 5: get to know yourself before the rest of the world does.
Speaker 1: So that's why we launched. When was that How long ago?
Speaker 1: That was in May? So it's all happened really quickly,
Speaker 1: point where we've almost been surprised. And what's interesting, ninety
Speaker 1: five percent of the signatures are mums. Wow, the power
Speaker 1: of the mother army is massive. One last question before
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 3: When your children are all grown up, they're no longer
Speaker 3: at home, when Cheska Jack got it so close, mate,
Speaker 3: when they're no longer living with you under the regime,
Speaker 3: what's the one thing they'd.
Speaker 1: Like them to remember about the house they grew up in.
Speaker 1: I would like to say fun.
Speaker 5: I know that sounds basic, but my dad was an
Speaker 5: only child and he said, you know what I love
Speaker 5: about coming to your house to have dinner and things.
Speaker 1: It's always just fun.
Speaker 5: But also the ridiculousness of the games that we make
Speaker 5: up in the backyard, the little pro decks that are
Speaker 5: all designed for bonding experiences. So recently we built a swing.
Speaker 5: Every time we build something in the backyard, it costs
Speaker 5: more than buying the bloody thing, but it's not about that.
Speaker 5: So we built like a timber seat that we hung
Speaker 5: from the tree. So to do that, we had to
Speaker 5: buy the timber from Bunnings and then we were all
Speaker 5: standing and then we're all painting together in the garage
Speaker 5: and then we hammer in the nails and then we
Speaker 5: strap it up with the rope and we're all on
Speaker 5: the swing.
Speaker 1: Kids in hospital. But it was it's not about the swing.
Speaker 1: Like jack said the other day or for Mother's Day,
Speaker 1: we made flower presses and Jackson, dad, I'm not interested
Speaker 1: in a flower press, I had to say to a mate,
Speaker 1: neither am I do you know what?
Speaker 5: Do you know what it is about? It's about drilling
Speaker 5: the hole, It's about choosing the flower. It's about going
Speaker 5: on the adventure to Centennial Park to go and pick
Speaker 5: the flowers we want to choose. And it's about going
Speaker 5: to buy a frame to put it in for mum
Speaker 5: and writing some nice words to much which we get
Speaker 5: all to do together. That's what it's about. Like we
Speaker 5: have a tinny that we go fishing in. It's a
Speaker 5: four point two meter Quinn tracks. It's nothing flash and
Speaker 5: it's not about the fishing. It's about getting up and going, hey, Ted,
Speaker 5: you're the captain today, so you've got to check that
Speaker 5: the rods are there. You need to check the bungs
Speaker 5: are in the boat. You need to check there's enough
Speaker 5: life jackets. Put your captain's hat on, and we've got
Speaker 5: enough fuel, all right. So that's all it's about. Nothing
Speaker 5: to do with the whether we catch it.
Speaker 1: Have you actually caught any fish?
Speaker 5: Well, we take we put a GoPro down, so we
Speaker 5: always go, we've caught something on camera, it's attached to the.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, we catch something on film. Yeah, my own microsman.
Speaker 1: What's the Quinn tracks? Beautiful brand on mate, I'll take
Speaker 1: you out.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we've It's been an absolute pleasure you guys
Speaker 3: a great dad.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thank you for having me. Guys.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on a wonderful podcast. Thank you so much. Appreciated.
Speaker 3: What an absolute gentleman. Loves the chat, loves it very funny,
Speaker 3: very funny guy funny than I remember. I felt like
Speaker 3: you guys really bonded over the renovations.
Speaker 1: Yes, we have to.
Speaker 3: We'll have to cut out nine percent of the renovation
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Speaker 3: Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country
Speaker 3: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.
Speaker 2: We pay our respects to their elders past and present
Speaker 2: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate Islander
Speaker 2: peoples today.
Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on Gadagal Land