WEBVTT - #121 Sleep Witchcraft, Gender Burnouts And Existential Questions With Wippa 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.880 Matthew, Yes, when your girls were a lot small. 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:06.240 Now, now, did you have any funky sleeping techniques? 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:09.800 We did one thing with Marley, only Mary, not Lola. 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:12.840 But when she would go to sleep, the way that 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.360 we would get her to sleep would be us rocking 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.920 her in our arms. We would then transition her while 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:21.640 she was asleep in our arms into her bed, her 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.360 cot and as you know, when you take your hands away, 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.120 they wake up, see you, then rock again. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.320 So every sleep took at least forty five minutes, the 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:33.200 dreaded transition. What did you do? We had the butt pat, 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:34.480 of course. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.920 And we speak about it in this episode with Whipper 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:38.519 and matt You know Whipper from. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:41.480 Where Nova back in the day used to work with them, 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:42.680 did you, well? 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:46.960 Not really, I had a Saturday morning radio show. He 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.560 had a real radio. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.800 You would know him from Fitzy Whipper and Kate Ritchie 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.000 in the mornings. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.160 Yes, and he talks about a really strange type of 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.000 technique that he is with his daughter Francesca back when 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.360 he was trying to get hurt asleep. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.600 Mister Whip is married to wife Lisa and they have 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.800 three kids, Ted, Jack and Francesca. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.839 Oh what did you call it Frankie, Friend Friend Frankie. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:13.360 We tried. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.160 We cover a bit about sleep in this chat, and 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:20.040 we also hear how Whipper tackles those random existential questions 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:21.360 that young kids tend. 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.959 To ask, like what is God? There was a condom 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:26.399 question in there too, wasn't there. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.600 In sex as well? All the good stuff anyway, I 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:30.240 hope you enjoy it. 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:42.880 Let's get into it. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:51.160 Welcome back to three doting dads. I'm so sorry. Good 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:53.680 I am Maddie, Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Michael John 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:55.320 Whipley from the Whippley Family. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:01.280 Tell that you've done X amount of years of a 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:02.520 lot of flying time on the Best. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.840 This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:08.720 it is the bad and related. 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:09.919 I only said you were London. 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:18.160 We apologize, mister Whipper. We do not give any advice 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.800 on this podcast. But I can only assume that today's 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.160 episode is going to be a drenching of knowledge and 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:28.239 ash Ni are ready for it, sure. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.120 That he can. I bring something up quickly. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.160 I was really keen to get one of some of 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:38.680 your merch not the calendar we were talking about earlier. 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.399 But there must be nice because I just I've got 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:45.239 to mate by the name of Hamish Blake. Oh yeah, 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:53.880 we've got We've got five. You didn't honestly, it must 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.000 be nicer, did it? 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.320 I mean it's fine. I mean it's the podcast world 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.040 and the entertainment world is a friendly area, is it? 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:03.680 So? 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.920 What about just thinking if we put a French flag 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.560 on it and it was just must. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.840 Be niece and you could sell them internationally? 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:19.280 Right, so sort a rep shared deal with some tourism stand. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:25.400 Where are we must be niece? That is gold? I 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:33.040 don't know, We're very good. What do you think? People 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:43.680 have responded very positive? One review we go Hamish? Is 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.680 that aymous? 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.840 It's anonymous? Hey, no, one's perfect. Definitely not us. 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.280 No, they're not anyway back to the drawing, Sorry, where 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:53.040 were parents? 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.560 Don't we do a bit of a how you say, 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.760 like psycho analysis on the guests? We always try ash 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.280 and I talk about what was the guest like when 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:02.920 they were younger? 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:03.400 Do you think? 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.839 And we feel like we figured you out and tell 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.200 us if we're way off the mark here off, we're 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.800 flying pretty close to home. I feel like as a youngster, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.159 you were somebody who was everyone's best friend. I feel 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.240 like the students would have loved you, the teachers would 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.239 have hated you. Would have had a few favorite teachers, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:21.520 but you would have been the disruptor. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:22.520 Class clown is. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.039 I would say everyone's friend. Yeah, I was that kind 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:34.160 of guy, that kind of guy, very arrogant. You said 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:34.480 it first. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.280 I could have just given a thumbs up for the podcast. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.960 You're on the right train. You can hear the thumb But. 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:46.520 Then no, goody two shoes, not class clown, but was 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:47.359 very much. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:53.279 Now you do that, now you do that, encourage. I 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.840 was the backing to make sure that the real class 0:04:55.880 --> 0:05:00.040 clown could do it. Job puppet masters you will. I 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:01.599 did very quick to do it. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:06.880 It was him that is disgusting behavior. 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:07.640 Kick him out. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.760 So yeah, I would swap very quickly from supporting role. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.520 How did you figure that out? Was did something happen? No? 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.880 I just didn't want to get in trouble. My dad 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.360 was very strict with things like that, and when he 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.400 would say to you, you're better than that, that's when 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.960 you knew not to behave badly. So like a spitball 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.200 from the back of the classroom onto a TV would 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.839 have been outrageous behavior for me. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.200 So that's where I hadn't made it. Eglinn, I would 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:40.080 do a lot of Eddie. I've got a great idea 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:41.200 for today. Yeah. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.480 I even talked to England into wed like an assembly 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.919 hall that had a fire extinguisher up the back. I 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:50.280 even talked him into putting a rubber between the handle, right, 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.479 rubber like an eraser, putting in between the handle that 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:54.400 you squeeze down. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.560 On a firing extinguished, and then putting fishing line around 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.960 the rubber, which ran down the side of the wall 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.360 all and then nailed across you know those hoop nails, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.400 so he could stand outside assembly and pull the rubber, 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:12.599 which sprayed the fire hydrant. And once again it was him. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.400 I mean I bought them to school. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.440 I gave him all the parts to make the bomb 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.360 the silent, and then sat there and enjoyed the spray 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:25.520 until until she too. What sir, If I knew anything 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:30.080 about that, I would have stopped that guy. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:41.200 He now he's imprison He lacked away, he's doing nine. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.039 Even the color red's bad for him. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.640 Did you ever have in your report cards wish he 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.840 would apply himself NonStop? 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.960 Did you pick that as well? Yeah? Psycho analysis, Yeah, yeah, 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.760 mine's the same they pulled me into class. I mean 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.520 I got yet twelve. 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:00.720 I got sixteen point six rounded up to seventeen out 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.280 of one hundred on all of it. 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.240 Yeah, yeah, which was what was I'm a Queensland so 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.359 we had is it like golf in the lower the 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.560 school about? Unfortunately not? She can't flip it on its head. Essentially, 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:17.920 you got seventeen percent. Yeah, brains, So what's so funny 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.280 seventeen jumping in? What's so funny about it's just a 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.680 little bit lower? Yeah? I expected as well. Did that 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.320 surprise you at all? No? 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.760 I didn't do anything at a great time at school, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.520 but never applied myself academically. It just wasn't my thing. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.560 But I remember they had there was sort of two 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.840 rankings in year twelve to join a hierarchy, so you 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.920 could become a school officer, and there was maybe I 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:43.520 don't know eighty school officers. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:44.640 Is that like a prefect? 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.840 Well, the prefect was a graduation from the school officer, 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.760 and I would say there was probably twenty. And they 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.120 called a meeting and I was in the meeting with 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.640 mum and dad and the head of year twelve, and 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:59.960 they said, we really like Michael, and I said escape 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.280 really well, I'm flying here, guys both streaming him, and 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:06.280 it's terrific that he is a school officer. We'd love 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:11.360 to make him a prefect, but he just doesn't. He 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:14.640 doesn't do anything. Why don't you do anything? 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.760 Just the presence was the energy guy, I was like 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:25.080 a personality, higher personality, the energy, the moods high. Did 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.720 you want to be prefect? Did you want that? 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.480 About if I had to work? But I don't think so, 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.360 But I sort of, I don't know. There was a 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.160 moment where I thought you ignorant fools for thinking that 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:39.400 the academic assessment equaled prefect when as a school officer. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:45.280 Highly ranged, Yeah, popularity, contest, house captain. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:47.920 You knew that too. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.120 A sports house captain, no, just house captain, house captain. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.200 Overall, so not sports house, Well, sport was under house. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.360 You're over yeah, sort of the. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.720 Lordship and that's where you so when you directed the 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:04.800 orders as house captain, people would have to just follow 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:05.520 with our question. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:06.880 Yes, without question. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.360 So I've always been in a very very powerful position 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:11.559 throughout my life. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.080 How do you think the podcast is going? At what 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.880 point did you think I think I'm going to work 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.920 in media. I always thought it would be fun. I mean, 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.720 I remember doing I don't know, I sort of I 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.280 played in I played in a little band for a while. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:34.480 The cover band was a little platinum. Yeah, platinum, Platinum, Yeah, Platinum. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.839 Performed probably once or twice ever. Yeah, So it was 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.040 really weird, chicked down venues. We picked our times. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.079 It didn't take off, but we used to play guitar 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.480 at a few twenty firsts. And around that time too, 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:49.560 Andy Lee had a band with his brother and he 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.000 was doing twenty first as well, And then we had 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.080 so many parties going on. We'd be emceeing or giving 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.400 speeches and Andy would be there with his guitar doing 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.360 this thing with his brother. They're do an acoustic set, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:04.520 probably not as advanced as Platinum, but that's kind of 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.560 how I think. I don't know, the entertainment started. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:08.720 You've got the taste for it. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.160 Yeah, what's your dad's opinion of how this is unfolding? 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.600 Knowing that you've got the sixteen point six. Yeah, you're 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:17.599 now a musician, which is a tough. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.880 Industry, playing at lots of clubs. He dad's different to me. 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.800 He's quite a straight guy, but he'll always say he'll 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:28.040 make you know what he does, he delivers sort of 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:29.959 it's a loaded compliment. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.559 So he'll say I had the show the other day. 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.160 Like, oh yeah, what'd you think? And he goes, well, 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:37.200 I suppose you need to ask yourself the question what 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:42.679 do you want to be known for? That was so 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.600 he'll say that, he'll go between the lines, oh yeah, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.680 oh no, because he'll call me Mikey, Mikey, and what 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:51.280 have I done here? 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:53.040 And then he'll make his comment. 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.319 Then he'll go but I know nothing about the game, 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.120 but I know nothing about the industry and the tracks. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:10:59.960 Was he trying to steer you in a different direction? 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:00.480 No? 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.600 He was always supportive of whatever I wanted to do. 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:05.840 So when I left school, I went and did a 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.640 TAFE course in building management. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:09.800 So I could. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:16.600 He looked like a foreman, more hands on them, the tools. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.320 But so I did that for a while and then 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.600 like project management, worked on site for a while and 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:25.440 then but always wanted to get into radio. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.600 Did a short course. That's what I did. Did your 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.800 dad approve of Lisa? Then? I issue, ah, yes he did, 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.160 still does, which is great news. How is that initial meeting? 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.240 I think it was good. I don't think it was 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:37.920 a nervous time. 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:39.920 I just remember when i'd met her and I realized 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.200 I met somebody very special, and being in the car 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:44.880 with Dad, wanted to tell him now he don't know 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.520 how to approach those conversations, whatever it might be. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:58.280 Sports. I remember sitting down, I completely forgot about this. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.760 Oh here we go. I was telling Mom and Dad 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.200 that I was going to propose to her, and. 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:06.000 Then I said, do you know what, guys, at least 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.600 and I going away in June, and I'm. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.960 Going to propose to her. But Dad must have missed 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:16.640 something because he goes proposed to who? I mean, what 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:17.360 do you mean? Who? 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.480 I've just done my whole spiel about how much she 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.120 means to me and how exciting it is. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:26.800 How long have you guys been again? Year? Eighteen months? 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:28.920 You still saying? 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.440 And I was like emotional, and I said to I 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:35.920 think Mom started to tear up. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.360 Dad was still trying to put the pieces. He misread 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.360 the whole. When you're excited to share something with someone 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.120 so close, you know you're waiting for that moment. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.600 Oh my god, Dad will remember the moment I said 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:51.320 that I'd found my life. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:57.280 But who oh John, please keep up. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.959 That was a battle, but he gave it when he 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:04.160 realized who it was. Two thumbs are he's on board. 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:05.600 Yeah, he was always on board. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.040 And then what I did was I wanted to do 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.360 the traditional thing of asking Lisa's parents, Deborah and David, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:17.480 if I had their permission to marry their daughter. But 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.520 they lived on the Goldie So I said to Lisa, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.760 you know what, I need a new suit. So I'm 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.000 going to go into the city and I'm going to. 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.520 Look for a suit all day long. You know, I'm 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.720 going to spend eight hours looking at them. I hate 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:38.080 trying to straight to the airport, got on the fly. 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.280 I had them for lunch. What came back. I couldn't 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.720 ring them. I didn't want to do that. I wanted 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.360 to sit down and eyeball them. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.600 I wanted to, But when you wanted their reaction from 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.000 when you organized lunch, they know what you're flying in? 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.680 Yeah, oh yeah, I don't. Just I just wanted to 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.760 talk about a future finance. What do you think about 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:01.640 the state of politics? Let me fly up to the 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:04.560 Gold Coast of talk you through. Yeah. They were they've 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.360 like nicely dressed and it was wonderful. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.280 We had a great lunch, and then I got home, 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.000 got back on them playing, got home and least it 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:17.880 was like, where's the suit. By that stage, I'd forgotten 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.720 about the suit story because I was so you know, 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:21.720 swept up. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.800 And in the moment of you know, the meeting we 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.640 just had. And then I said, oh, yeah, found the tailor. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.560 It's getting measured and stuff. They're like alterations. I'll pick 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:33.200 it up next week. 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.640 So I then had to go and buy a suit 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.720 after that, And now you have a nice suit and 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.360 wife and she still loves me. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.080 Do you remember when you and Lisa started having the 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.320 conversation about starting a family? 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:53.440 Yes, yes, I remember. You never know, you never know 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:57.000 how long it'll take. I suppose you go through those times, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:02.040 but you're also kind of deciding the level of commitment 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:03.960 you want to make to making the baby. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.320 How do you mean, well, do. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:12.320 We just get it on, you know, randomly in the 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.680 routine and we're already in like, oh my god, it's 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.240 Chuesday and art and there's nothing on TV, you know, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:22.920 or do we want to go Okay, well, let's find 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.120 out when you're ovulating and then we'll try and strike when. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.440 The iron's hot more. Do you do that theory of 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.880 thirty days by bank can't miss? I would ruin. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:39.720 Well that's what I was, that it could ruin. So yes, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.920 I remember having that conversation. I think we just kind 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.640 of randomly cruised through it for a while until we 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.560 got the ovulation thing that you spit on on. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:51.960 We've never done that. 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:53.880 You put it on the tongue, and it says if 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.320 maybe she wheezed on it, it would make more sense 0:15:57.360 --> 0:15:57.560 to we. 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.520 On it does? It does? 0:15:59.680 --> 0:15:59.960 Hang on? 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.200 Sorry, The tongue was the drug test that was different 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:09.680 when right now, I'm sure you can do it with saliva. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.440 I think either way, it'll tell you where the ovulation 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.040 period is, and then you get in and fight for 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.600 your life, you know, let's wrestle. But we were lucky 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.840 enough that it worked quite easily, I think until two months, 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.400 and you hear some really challenging stories. So I remember 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:33.960 thinking that's fantastic. Then Ted was born, and then surprise, surprise, 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.760 wonderful news seven months. 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.040 Later, a whole birth of Ted. Shit, she was pregnant again. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:45.000 Well yeah, and I was the father, so we got 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:49.600 we found some consistency there. But Jack was a wonderful 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.200 surprise to us, but you know, we couldn't have wished 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.560 for anything more. And then we were lucky enough to 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.160 strategically think, will we go again in the hope of 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.880 getting a little girl? And we did? Was the plan 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.800 always for three? Was that always on the card? Yeah? 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:05.840 I think so. If we could have a third, we 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:07.200 would go for it. And we did. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.040 We did, which was fantastic, and Francesca came along quickly. 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:16.200 Too personal, But yes, there are different techniques to get 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:16.840 the girl to the. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:20.600 Boy, Jack and THEO. Did you find out at birth 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:21.160 the sex? 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.800 Did you do a reveal? How did it happen with 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.680 your first two? Ted? We didn't find out. I don't 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.240 hate people do that, but my god, I was so excited. 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:36.560 H just a big plum like bull bag. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:41.640 I'm thinking, man, that's the best set of plums ever. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:48.360 Did wild swingers you know? 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:53.160 Were they like long or they hopefully listens back? 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.520 Did you say anything to those in the room midwife? 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.320 He's beautiful, But yeah, I think every parent gets quite 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.840 a shock at the look of the the Genitalia. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.240 I got a shock just looking at the at him, 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.480 at my because my eldest is a boy too, and 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:12.280 he popped him out. 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:18.760 He was screaming. I was like he was, and that 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.439 was the fathering instinct straight away. You got to protest. 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.600 It's a one way it's a one way ash. 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:26.680 But then I found out with Jack that it was 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.200 going to be a boy, just from a planning point 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.800 of view, and then with Francesca it was taken out 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.520 of my hands and fits he very generously. 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:34.360 Gender reveal. 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.480 I absolutely love gender reveal. You did you have any 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:39.600 input at all in the concertle. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.080 No, he was kind enough to organize. It's so nice 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.280 to him. Do you know what we did? We did 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.480 a gender reveal cake for Jack. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.959 Forgot about that, so Lisa's mum cut the cake on 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.520 her birthday. We found out it was going to be 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.000 a boy. That's how we knew about it. 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:55.960 Appropriate. 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.399 So in my mind, gender reveal was done like we 0:18:58.440 --> 0:18:59.680 didn't have to do a gender reveal. 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:04.160 Enter Ryan James Fitzgerald. Oh mate, I've got the best plan. 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.920 Or you're gonna love it, mane, you're gonna love it? 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.880 Is it very mean? Is something I'd really like? Because yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:13.320 we're going to Easton Creek Speedway. You are there quite often. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.199 That's the thing I would have loved some on this 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:23.480 podcast earlier, but you know I'm always doing Yeah. 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:23.280 I get. 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:30.639 So he organized a gender burnout, which and the kids 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.840 were there. So FITZI was in the back of some 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.159 I don't know. I don't know anything about cars. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:42.920 Let's say it was a holding commodore, ill a commodore. 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:45.199 It was Commodore, and I don't know what model it 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:48.800 was for something, but the tires were perfect. It was 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.639 ready to go. All we had to do was stand 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.800 there and wait to see if the smoke from the rubber. 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:59.159 Tires was pink or bloody blue. Mate, while FITZI was 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:01.440 in the back seat with a helmet on, yelling out 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:09.240 the back we would have it. Yeah, we need it's 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:10.960 just spinning around in circles. 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.080 Why we were pretended to be emotionally moved by the reveal, 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.160 but more devastated we were watching fits in the back 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:18.880 of a commodore. 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:23.240 There's nothing more astral nothing more Australian, than that people. 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:24.440 Are dying with gender reveals. 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:27.760 Have you seen that someone will fly over dropping a 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:29.040 color of smoke out of a. 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:33.280 Plane and you guys wanting to say that there's another 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:34.400 baby on the way. 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:39.960 And I've had a sexy oh a crowd owner of congratulations, 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:40.320 thank you. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.439 I was wondering why you had that so brave? Is 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:47.240 it sore? Still? Some people live with soreness? Show on 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.000 the scarce? Okay, did where did we're in the sack? 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.879 Did they go so? Isn't it they go? No? Underneath? 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.000 I thought it was under the balls. He had one 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:57.520 of these done, and I said, where do they go in? 0:20:57.760 --> 0:20:58.240 They go in? 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:02.840 I don't know, mate, have you not even looked you've 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.000 had an incision made in your testicles? 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.159 I already had a scar on my nuts from what from? 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:09.280 You don't know this story? 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:11.160 Your first sectomy? 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:13.640