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Speaker 1: Matthew, Yes, when your girls were a lot small.

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Speaker 2: Now, now, did you have any funky sleeping techniques?

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Speaker 1: We did one thing with Marley, only Mary, not Lola.

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Speaker 3: But when she would go to sleep, the way that

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Speaker 3: we would get her to sleep would be us rocking

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Speaker 3: her in our arms. We would then transition her while

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Speaker 3: she was asleep in our arms into her bed, her

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Speaker 3: cot and as you know, when you take your hands away,

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Speaker 3: they wake up, see you, then rock again.

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Speaker 1: So every sleep took at least forty five minutes, the

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Speaker 1: dreaded transition. What did you do? We had the butt pat,

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Speaker 1: of course.

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Speaker 2: And we speak about it in this episode with Whipper

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Speaker 2: and matt You know Whipper from.

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Speaker 3: Where Nova back in the day used to work with them,

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Speaker 3: did you, well?

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Speaker 1: Not really, I had a Saturday morning radio show. He

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Speaker 1: had a real radio.

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Speaker 2: You would know him from Fitzy Whipper and Kate Ritchie

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Speaker 2: in the mornings.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and he talks about a really strange type of

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Speaker 3: technique that he is with his daughter Francesca back when

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Speaker 3: he was trying to get hurt asleep.

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Speaker 2: Mister Whip is married to wife Lisa and they have

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Speaker 2: three kids, Ted, Jack and Francesca.

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Speaker 1: Oh what did you call it Frankie, Friend Friend Frankie.

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Speaker 1: We tried.

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Speaker 2: We cover a bit about sleep in this chat, and

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Speaker 2: we also hear how Whipper tackles those random existential questions

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Speaker 2: that young kids tend.

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Speaker 1: To ask, like what is God? There was a condom

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Speaker 1: question in there too, wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: In sex as well? All the good stuff anyway, I

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Speaker 3: hope you enjoy it.

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Speaker 4: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to three doting dads. I'm so sorry. Good

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Speaker 1: I am Maddie, Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Michael John

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Speaker 1: Whipley from the Whippley Family.

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Speaker 2: Tell that you've done X amount of years of a

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Speaker 2: lot of flying time on the Best.

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Speaker 3: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,

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Speaker 3: it is the bad and related.

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Speaker 1: I only said you were London.

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Speaker 3: We apologize, mister Whipper. We do not give any advice

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Speaker 3: on this podcast. But I can only assume that today's

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Speaker 3: episode is going to be a drenching of knowledge and

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Speaker 3: ash Ni are ready for it, sure.

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Speaker 1: That he can. I bring something up quickly.

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Speaker 5: I was really keen to get one of some of

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Speaker 5: your merch not the calendar we were talking about earlier.

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Speaker 1: But there must be nice because I just I've got

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Speaker 1: to mate by the name of Hamish Blake. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've got We've got five. You didn't honestly, it must

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Speaker 5: I mean it's fine. I mean it's the podcast world

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Speaker 5: and the entertainment world is a friendly area, is it?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 5: What about just thinking if we put a French flag

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Speaker 1: Be niece and you could sell them internationally?

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Speaker 5: Right, so sort a rep shared deal with some tourism stand.

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Speaker 1: Where are we must be niece? That is gold? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, We're very good. What do you think? People

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Speaker 1: have responded very positive? One review we go Hamish? Is

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Speaker 1: that aymous?

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Speaker 3: It's anonymous? Hey, no, one's perfect. Definitely not us.

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Speaker 1: No, they're not anyway back to the drawing, Sorry, where

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Speaker 3: Don't we do a bit of a how you say,

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Speaker 3: and I talk about what was the guest like when

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Speaker 3: And we feel like we figured you out and tell

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Speaker 3: flying pretty close to home. I feel like as a youngster,

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Speaker 3: you were somebody who was everyone's best friend. I feel

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Speaker 3: like the students would have loved you, the teachers would

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Speaker 5: I would say everyone's friend. Yeah, I was that kind

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Speaker 5: of guy, that kind of guy, very arrogant. You said

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Speaker 1: You're on the right train. You can hear the thumb But.

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Speaker 1: Now you do that, now you do that, encourage. I

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Speaker 5: It was him that is disgusting behavior.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I would swap very quickly from supporting role.

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Speaker 5: I just didn't want to get in trouble. My dad

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Speaker 5: I even talked to England into wed like an assembly

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Speaker 1: On a firing extinguished, and then putting fishing line around

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Speaker 6: He now he's imprison He lacked away, he's doing nine.

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Speaker 1: Even the color red's bad for him.

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Speaker 5: I didn't do anything at a great time at school,

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Speaker 1: Is that like a prefect?

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Speaker 2: Highly ranged, Yeah, popularity, contest, house captain.

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Speaker 1: point did you think I think I'm going to work

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Speaker 5: Then he'll go but I know nothing about the game,

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Speaker 5: but I know nothing about the industry and the tracks.

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Speaker 1: Was he trying to steer you in a different direction?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 5: He was always supportive of whatever I wanted to do.

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Speaker 5: He looked like a foreman, more hands on them, the tools.

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Speaker 5: You put it on the tongue, and it says if

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Speaker 1: On it does? It does?

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Speaker 5: Sorry, The tongue was the drug test that was different

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Speaker 5: We did, which was fantastic, and Francesca came along quickly.

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Speaker 3: Boy, Jack and THEO. Did you find out at birth

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Speaker 1: Did you do a reveal? How did it happen with

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Speaker 1: hate people do that, but my god, I was so excited.

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Speaker 5: H just a big plum like bull bag.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, man, that's the best set of plums ever.

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Speaker 1: Did wild swingers you know?

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Speaker 5: Were they like long or they hopefully listens back?

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Speaker 3: Did you say anything to those in the room midwife?

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Speaker 3: He's beautiful, But yeah, I think every parent gets quite

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Speaker 3: a shock at the look of the the Genitalia.

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Speaker 2: I got a shock just looking at the at him,

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Speaker 1: He was screaming. I was like he was, and that

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Speaker 5: But then I found out with Jack that it was

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Speaker 1: Gender reveal.

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Speaker 3: I absolutely love gender reveal. You did you have any

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Speaker 1: No, he was kind enough to organize. It's so nice

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Speaker 5: Forgot about that, so Lisa's mum cut the cake on

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Speaker 1: Appropriate.

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Speaker 5: So in my mind, gender reveal was done like we

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Speaker 1: Enter Ryan James Fitzgerald. Oh mate, I've got the best plan.

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Speaker 1: Or you're gonna love it, mane, you're gonna love it?

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Speaker 1: Is it very mean? Is something I'd really like? Because yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're going to Easton Creek Speedway. You are there quite often.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing I would have loved some on this

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Speaker 1: I get.

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Speaker 5: So he organized a gender burnout, which and the kids

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know anything about cars.

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Speaker 2: Let's say it was a holding commodore, ill a commodore.

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Speaker 5: It was Commodore, and I don't know what model it

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Speaker 1: Tires was pink or bloody blue. Mate, while FITZI was

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Speaker 5: Why we were pretended to be emotionally moved by the reveal,

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Speaker 2: There's nothing more astral nothing more Australian, than that people.

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Speaker 5: Have you seen that someone will fly over dropping a

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Speaker 1: Plane and you guys wanting to say that there's another

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Speaker 2: And I've had a sexy oh a crowd owner of congratulations,

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Speaker 1: I was wondering why you had that so brave? Is

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Speaker 1: the scarce? Okay, did where did we're in the sack?

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Speaker 1: Did they go so? Isn't it they go? No? Underneath?

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Speaker 1: They go in?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, mate, have you not even looked you've

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Speaker 2: I already had a scar on my nuts from what from?

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Speaker 2: You don't know this story?

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Speaker 1: Your first sectomy?

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Speaker 2: Call it a sext to me? No, No, I had

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Speaker 2: it to what they called it, twisted testicle?

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Speaker 1: Oh right, when I was fourteen years of age. I

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, let's go into this because Ted said

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Speaker 1: How did they get twisted? You're playing soccer? I was surfing.

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Speaker 1: I've already got a scar down the middle, like in

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Speaker 5: No, there was a guy at school who in a

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Speaker 1: And because I had missed like two weeks of.

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Speaker 1: He's had an operation on his balls, so what do

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Speaker 1: He was twisties. I was one nut.

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Speaker 2: Well, my friends used to see me wonder Wall, but

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Speaker 1: Back to the incision of the sector. Where is it.

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Speaker 2: It'd be in the same area of the scar down

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Speaker 2: There's two holes something.

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Speaker 2: It's a bull ring actually, and they go in and

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Speaker 2: they actually melt the tube.

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00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of smell of burning skin. Oh,

445
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: I was this smell. What's that smell? It's your balls, burning.

446
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,199
Speaker 3: Flesh and boiled seamen, boiled.

447
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,000
Speaker 2: I was sweating profusely, so much so they had to

448
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: peel me off the bed like I was stuck to

449
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: it like the leather the hospital, but like medical bed.

450
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: And then you meant to rest and recover a bit.

451
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 2: In said I went. I went out to the pub

452
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: with the boys, and.

453
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: Were you able to enjoy yourself?

454
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 2: I clocked up fifteen k's on foot and I was swallowen,

455
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: bruised up to my belly button.

456
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, up in the gay bar. My nuts are out.

457
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: The whole night, was just showing everybody my black testicles.

458
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 2: Actually, they I was bruised up to my belly button

459
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: because I.

460
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: Because you went out dancing all night. You know, I

461
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: was prepared to do that. Except when Lisa, because she

462
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 1: had a sea section, they tied her tubes during the

463
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: sea section, so took the baby out and then you

464
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: clamp the tubes so she can't get pregnant. The third one.

465
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, was that always part of the plan or

466
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 3: was that in the surprise the plan got you.

467
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean I would have been happy to get the vasectomy.

468
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: But then while we're in there, we mate what about

469
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: your second marriage? So then that was kind of done,

470
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: that was sold, it was fixed, so you know you

471
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: don't have to have it anyway. Yeah, if you can

472
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: show me the right gay club to go, Surry Hill,

473
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: I love that.

474
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: When you If you were to have a map, let's

475
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 3: plot out. Teddy come THEO.

476
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: Not many, no one does.

477
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: I've never heard him called to the I'll call him Teddy,

478
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: then ted Jack, Francesca friend.

479
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: Never Frankie.

480
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 5: Frankie has been considered. Frankie was out initial idea. She

481
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 5: gets a bit of cheska like.

482
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: That asco sounds like a cocktail.

483
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 3: Comes with a lot of attitude. When you look at

484
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: who was easy, who was hard? Where do they rank?

485
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: On that graph.

486
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: It was a map. Yeah, what do you want? Ted

487
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: was easy being the first and when they talked about

488
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: the second being hard, Oh my god, Jack was hard

489
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: in what way? Sleep? What we found out with Jack too,

490
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: he was just it was grumpy. He was bloody grumpy.

491
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 5: And then we got a baby whispering and we said, hey,

492
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 5: what's wrong with this kid? And she said, he's exhausted,

493
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 5: And I said, what do you mean? She said, he's

494
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 5: not sleeping.

495
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: So then we looked in his mouth and he had

496
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: the world's biggest tonsils. Oh massive, He had a five

497
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: milimeter gap down his throat. Could he breathe? Probably? So

498
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: he had sleep app near So I would hold him.

499
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 5: This was the most unnerving thing. You would hold him

500
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: at night. He's a baby, he's one and a half.

501
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 5: You'd hold him trying to get him to sleep. He'd

502
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 5: fall asleep, and then he'd go like you would see

503
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 5: a sixty year old man who's had far too much

504
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 5: to drink, who's fallen asleep.

505
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: He has probably got a bit of goup also, who's thirty three.

506
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 5: So we very quickly then had his tonsils out and

507
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 5: everything was fine.

508
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Took us a while to realize why he was angry.

509
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: It's crazy how much impact tonsils and ad noises I

510
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: have on and different impacts I haven't.

511
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: Like I was telling you about, Lenny had his hour,

512
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: he splk speaks completely different. Yeah, they do get completely

513
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: changed Japanese. I think it's a former.

514
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't understand, but that we've had it with

515
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 5: all three of them. They all had massive tonsils, yes

516
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 5: and tons.

517
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: So that was a big game changer. And Francesca has

518
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: been a hard sleeper as well from the get go.

519
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think this feels more tactical than what

520
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 5: Jack presented. Jack was just a bad sleep because he

521
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 5: couldn't sleep and he was tired, and Francesca was a

522
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: little feels like it's been a little more loaded. Okay,

523
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 5: I'll get them back in. Yeah I'm tired, but I'll

524
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 5: get them back in. I make them work for this.

525
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: Watch this. I've got them right here. What would you

526
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: have to do?

527
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 5: So we tried all sorts of stuff, anyone by one

528
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 5: of those dolls that even had like a heartbeat or

529
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 5: a vibration.

530
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: We did that kids, so you feel loved by.

531
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 5: But then we hired like with Tommy Ivy who you

532
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 5: know Maddie from our radio show Great Man, Great Man,

533
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: Thomas Bryan. He had like a like I'm not saying witchcraft,

534
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 5: but someone who would almost perform a level of magic.

535
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 5: So she would give us the routine of what you

536
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 5: needed to do, and you'd follow that, and then what

537
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 5: would happen?

538
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: A rabbit would come, Rabbit, is this your car?

539
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 5: You would do things where you had to like tap

540
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 5: on the door, so you'd go, Francesca, it's time to sleep, and.

541
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: You would do it again, Francesca, it is time to

542
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: sleep on the door. It's sleep time now, Francesca. And

543
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: at least I would be paid with a fortune with

544
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: that going. This feels like one of the great cons Yeah,

545
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: did you think is this a bit for radio?

546
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: Like?

547
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: Am I being conned?

548
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 5: Here? It's a pink smoke stuff. If that didn't work,

549
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: it would be Francesca, it's time to sleep.

550
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: A scrap. Yeah, And what's the thought that.

551
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 5: Maybe it was just creating some sort of sonic trigger

552
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 5: to make her realize that we're not coming in anymore.

553
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 5: But we're here, Yeah, we're here. So the art would

554
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 5: be that you would then cut it back to just a.

555
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: I've never heard of it it's good. It's really good.

556
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: Morse code. Yeah, she's just gone back.

557
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: But it worked. I mean now she's older, so she's

558
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: sort of four now. So are you still tapping? Not tapping?

559
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: Anyone tapping out? I'm gone. But do you know what's hilarious?

560
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: Isn't that fascinating when you're a parent, how well you

561
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: get to know every sound in your house. So when

562
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: you're creeping.

563
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 5: Out of a bedroom after padding a head or holding

564
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 5: a hand, you then have to creep out of the house.

565
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: You know, to walk on that side of the hallway.

566
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: You know where the creek is, like it's going to creak. Really,

567
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: hold on, old tap, you'll go to the one time

568
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: there's the floor here it is that you are back out.

569
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: Guilty you would you know every you know the creek

570
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: and then my tap, my shower is on the other

571
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: side of her wall.

572
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 5: So then you have tactical times about when you can

573
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 5: shower or you go downstairs to another bathroom.

574
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: All those little things you pick up. You become like

575
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: a bat with sonar hearing.

576
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 5: If you're to be lying there and you and in

577
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 5: your phone or vibrate where the message will come from.

578
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, hell hell, we call me?

579
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: How how were you and Lisa at this point when

580
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 3: it before you got the witch for one of a

581
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: better word into the house.

582
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 5: Hard really hard, as any parent would know. It's a killer,

583
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 5: isn't it?

584
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: Did it hurt more because it's your third and you

585
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: think we should have it kind of dialed at this point.

586
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: I think one to two was harder. Really you always

587
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: hear that, you do hear that, And I think the

588
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: one is a shock where you have these moments of

589
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, what did we do with our time

590
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: before we had this? What do we talk about? Yeah?

591
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: And then two is just an extension. Two is a

592
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: major shock and then a made of mine too.

593
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 5: Back to Eddie Glenn, the fire hydrant guy, the fire

594
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 5: exting chef, he's like he thinks he's a wise old

595
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 5: man and he goes, mane, you've got no time when

596
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 5: you have two. So what difference does it make when

597
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 5: you have three? About thirty three percent? Yeah, it's a

598
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 5: third harder.

599
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 2: Again, So when Francesco, were you taking turns? And who's

600
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: putting her back to sleep? Because was it you had

601
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: to hold her hand.

602
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 5: Or there's a lot of hand holding, and you would

603
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 5: lie even when she was in the co Just lie on.

604
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: The floor, wouldn't you. Yeah, and you just your hand

605
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: is through the slats of the cot and you just

606
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: holding in prison. Are you doing Morning Radio two? Yeah?

607
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: Do you know those times where I sat there and

608
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: it would be midnight and to stop her crying. I

609
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: don't know if you ever did this. You put your

610
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: little finger in their mouth and they just like a

611
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: glassifier and they just suck on your fingers. So you

612
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: wash your hands. I put a glove on like they

613
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: did at the hospital. Who are you protecting her? Are you?

614
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: This kid was filthy like COVID baby twenty twenty, riddled

615
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: with her. You just never know, You never know where

616
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: she's been.

617
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: To give me something to mean, I couldn't do riddle

618
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: time on a Friday, Sidney would be lost. So you'd

619
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 5: lie at midnight and they'd be sucking on you pinky

620
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 5: like it was a nipple, you know what I mean,

621
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 5: like a titch, and.

622
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: You're like, what the fuck was doing in my life?

623
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: And you think and they'd stop, and you go, can

624
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: I move it now? And then you'd move and you'd

625
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: be back in again.

626
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 5: So it was just well, you know those times where

627
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 5: you think, I don't know how I'm going to get

628
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 5: through the next ten minutes.

629
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: Do I bang my head against the wall or do

630
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: I just drink?

631
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: Did anyone say anything at work when you're coming in

632
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: and you're operating obviously a much lower percentage because you

633
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 3: just got no sleep. Is anyone saying, hey, whipp are

634
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: you okay?

635
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: No? Not really? Duty of care?

636
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 5: Do you know what the hardest part is, Like we

637
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 5: are on this podcast, it's a relief to share stories

638
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 5: like it's a relief that you know that I know

639
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 5: that we know what you've gone through and what we

640
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 5: all do.

641
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: But it doesn't make it easier. It doesn't take away

642
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 1: the thick of battle and when you're in there and

643
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: you're going, oh my god, I don't I feel physically sick.

644
00:33:58,920 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm so tired.

645
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Lisa had some postnatal depression. I'm there

646
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 5: trying to do the right thing where half your job

647
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 5: too as a dad. I think he's trying to do

648
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 5: the right thing by the newborn. So you learn trying

649
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: to learn it one hundred miles an hour, but then

650
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 5: almost play a kick in front of your wife to

651
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 5: work out what she's going to need and how I

652
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 5: can help for whatever's around the corner. So that was

653
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: sort of the panic, and I think a lot of

654
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 5: Dad's experience as well.

655
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: That is how I've dropped the tone slightly.

656
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 5: No, I did highly impactful with the feelings and emotions.

657
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: Man, am I right? Fellas Yeah, well said.

658
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: When you talk about the fact that we're not sure

659
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: whether we go for a third or night, and it

660
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: does send a bit of a shiver down my spine

661
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: when you talk to people who have, you know, when

662
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: they're reminisced of time in the trenches, because for me,

663
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: I've kind of erased all that, and you do because

664
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Speaker 3: you like it.

665
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Speaker 1: Was just forget fucking hell moments that were great. I'll

666
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: never forget we w I'm going to after this record message.

667
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: Laura and be like, I think we should just reconsider

668
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: it because it's it's.

669
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: What's life like now? Sensational? Okay, just the best. So

670
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: tonight I'm going to her school for wild night and

671
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm dressed as a tiger and I can't wait wild

672
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's have wild night.

673
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 5: Where you can turn up dressed to something. And I

674
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 5: think because because because of radio, I think that the

675
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 5: staff there at the kindergarten, feel like I must be

676
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 5: village idiot.

677
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: So I go all, can't wait to see what your

678
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: dad Whipper's gonna wear it.

679
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,720
Speaker 5: So she comes home and says, are they really excited

680
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: about what you're going to wear? Can you wear the

681
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 5: cat suit? I don't have a choice. If I don't

682
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: turn up, I'm a disappointment.

683
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bars there disappoint my daughter.

684
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 7: So tonight I will be a cat and I can't

685
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 7: want to be good luck with your eldest is nine

686
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 7: nine now at the moment, I'm kind of thinking about

687
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 7: the future with Marley.

688
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: She's turning six next year. The kind of conversation. She's

689
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: becoming very aware of the world around us, asking big questions.

690
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: How is it with Ted?

691
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 5: Ted and Jack are sort of a team, so quite

692
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 5: often they'll be in the same position regarding questions, and

693
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: there's some fascinating topics.

694
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: What have you had to tackle?

695
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 5: Like the other day we watched I get sick of

696
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 5: watching YouTube shorts. Right, I watch a lot of YouTube

697
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 5: shots like no, no, no, no, too much, too much, too quick.

698
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: I want you to understand concentrationspan and really engaging in something,

699
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: so I don't mind YouTube and I say, why don't we.

700
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 5: I want it to be a learned experience, so I

701
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 5: want adventure builds in or I want how's it made?

702
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 5: So we watched how Crayon's made the other day and

703
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 5: where they come from and how many crowns are made.

704
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm so bad.

705
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 5: I mean, crowns are amazing. When they first launched, Crayola

706
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 5: was the dominant playback then and still is today.

707
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: Is it made out of rocks?

708
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 5: No?

709
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: I can't remember. What is it? That's fat? That's fat? Yeah,

710
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: it's fat. Let's filap Yeah, like horse, it's made from horse. Yeah,

711
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: they take it.

712
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 5: They'll take a fourth leg off a dog. If you

713
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 5: see a three legged.

714
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: Dog, that's twenty four cranions right there. Wow, plus the

715
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: one he's got. Still the next.

716
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: Time, he's a crayon. Anyway, the prompt came up for

717
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 5: the next video, how to make condoms?

718
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: Okay, and then Jack said what's a condom? And Ted knew.

719
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: I think I'd had a chat to Ted about it.

720
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 5: For some reason, We've never really shied away from being

721
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: honest about how things work. And Ted said, oh, yeah,

722
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 5: I know that, and said to Jacket, it's like a

723
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 5: balloon and you put it on your dude all and

724
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 5: it'll stop you from making a baby.

725
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: That's what I did. Was this the YouTube video or jacket?

726
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 5: So then Jack said, this is where the extension of

727
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 5: all these topics is where it gets interesting.

728
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: So Jack then says, right, well, why would you have

729
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: sex if you didn't want to make a baby? Very valid,

730
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: very valid question.

731
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 5: I said, it's because it can feel good and it

732
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 5: can be fun. It's fun and it's something you do

733
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 5: with someone that you love. Right, so then I want

734
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:34,439
Speaker 5: to have fun. Did you say, come into that? So

735
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 5: I said, well, what does it feel like? And I said, well,

736
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 5: it's like I said.

737
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: It's like a massage, a massage a message the other

738
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: day with the os that we went to. It's different

739
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: to that.

740
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 5: So it's different to So it does does it feel

741
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 5: like when you go to Tanya.

742
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: The messusses that feel the same as when you're with Mom?

743
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes it depends if it's really dark, and I don't

744
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: actually know, it.

745
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 5: Depends how much I've got and I don't know how

746
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 5: to answer, you know, those questions.

747
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: It's funny.

748
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: I have this vivid memory of being so concerned. I

749
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 3: can't remember how old I was, but I was like, Mom,

750
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: how do you make sure you don't we whilst you're

751
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 3: having sex?

752
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Right? Question? Just a sum it would come out. That

753
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: was my biggest question.

754
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: I was like, but how do you how does it

755
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: not I've got I'm slightly traumatized. There's a school in

756
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: my area called Santa Augustine that we used to call

757
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 2: them and orgasms.

758
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: And I said to my mom, oh, yeah, you know,

759
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: and orgasms And she was like, would you like me

760
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: to tell you what an orgasm is?

761
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: And I was like twelve, and I remember this vividly

762
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: and I was like, no, please don't and she can.

763
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: She carried on, you know at that time, No, Nope,

764
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: and she carried on to tell me intricately for forty

765
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: five minutes what an orgasm was.

766
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: That's a vivid memory. You've turned out like April's a

767
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: lucky lady.

768
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: Is because we still had an August because we then.

769
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 5: Ted said had said earlier, you know how like when

770
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Speaker 5: we got prior to this, how is the baby made?

771
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: So I'd explained it, but then he still couldn't get

772
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: his head around it. So he said, okay, so this

773
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: so if it was this room in here.

774
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 5: The sperm comes out of your painis it would go

775
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 5: across the floor and then into's Johnny.

776
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: We're not traveling that. If you can do that, they

777
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: go back back. You got yourself an industry. So I

778
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: once again I had to explain that the dude Ale

779
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: goes into the Johnny and all of this, so they're

780
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: always just I love that you're learning at the same time,

781
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: so you don't have the written down answer and at

782
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: the same time this you don't have any prep. You

783
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: don't know when the question is going to come, which

784
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: direction is going to turn? Quiz do you know the

785
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: other one that I mentioned Because they go to a

786
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: school which has a religious element to it. God made everything.

787
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 5: Now I don't care what you believe in religious wise,

788
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 5: whatever faith might mean to you, there are some basics

789
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: which I think they need to understand, but it's hard

790
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 5: to explain. So I want them to have a level

791
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 5: of religious education so when they're older, you can make

792
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 5: the decision whether you want to partake and follow by

793
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 5: all means, and I think that's healthy for them to

794
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 5: understand how other people might be thinking. So then you know,

795
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 5: we did so we were doing some landscaping in the backyard,

796
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: so it very quickly got to well, oh, God's God

797
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 5: made the house because God makes everything because it's good.

798
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 5: They said, God makes everything, so God's make doing the landscaping.

799
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 5: The builders are doing the landscape. The builder is God,

800
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 5: the build it. No no, no, no, So God, Well

801
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 5: God made this house.

802
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: God made Australia. You know God did Australia. Well you

803
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: could say that way to creation of the world was

804
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: for good. That might quickly so it gets to this

805
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: point where.

806
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 5: And then at the end of dinner, we'll sit the

807
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: dinner and I go, okay, make sure we thank mom

808
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 5: for dinner, and I'll say, well, yeah, God did go

809
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: to dinner, and what you saw who made dinner?

810
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: Thanks Mum for making dinner. That'd be awesome. I can't

811
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: wait till Oscar. Oscar is already.

812
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Like so painful like that as well. And he's the

813
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: same turning six. And he's always been such a good

814
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: talker from like he came out screamingly, didn't stop screaming,

815
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: and then just started talking.

816
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: So well, yeah, and just.

817
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: His line of questioning, break anyone down in the car

818
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: and he's continued asking, You've asked a lot of really

819
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: good questions today, buddy, but can you stop.

820
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny how Quie Often when you say, hey,

821
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: great question, you're buying yourself time.

822
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: If he didn't, I'll answer it.

823
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 5: And at the moment, you know, we have Christmas on

824
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 5: the way. So the elf on the shelf is out.

825
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 5: Oh so elf on the shelf is out? Jack said

826
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 5: the other day, hang on a minute, is the elf moving?

827
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 5: Or are you moving the elf? And I said, well,

828
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell you that, but I'm going

829
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 5: to tell you something and I'll be very clear about

830
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 5: it and go on. What's going on now? It's called

831
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 5: the magic of Christmas. Oh, so the magic of Christmas

832
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 5: can present all sorts of surprises, whether it's the elf

833
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 5: moving by itself, the feeling of excitement, the tree in

834
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: the corner of the room, it's all the magic of Christmases.

835
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: Are you going to say it's God, God, move the elf?

836
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: Callt me down.

837
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: We have to congratulate you, by the way. Yes, you

838
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: have been campaigning in recent months. I'm talking about thirty

839
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: six months. You'll push to get the age for youngsters

840
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: on social media raised from thirteen to sixteen. I wanted

841
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: to know, Ash, and I weren't quite sure how you

842
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: initially became involved involved in that campaign.

843
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 5: It was a moment where, if you want all the detail,

844
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 5: I was sitting on the toilet and I that great

845
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 5: thinking time on the toilet, and I saw something and

846
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 5: I've been talking about it with a mate, Rob Galutzo

847
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 5: for a while, and then I saw something that's stayed

848
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 5: by state.

849
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: There were changes going on in.

850
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 5: The US, and I just had this sinking moment where

851
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: I thought, imagine, like in your Wireless dreams, it was

852
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 5: almost a hypothetical. Imagine if we could change the age

853
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 5: of kids joining social media from the platforms from thirteen

854
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 5: to sixteen or that thirty.

855
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: Six month period. And then I thought to myself, do

856
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: you know what if you're not going to act on.

857
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: A gut feeling like I had. That moved me so

858
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: much in that moment. Shouldn't have said the toilet? But

859
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: should I shouldn't have said the toilet bit then I thought,

860
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 5: then what are you ever going to do? We're ever

861
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 5: going to stand for? So Rob and I had been

862
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 5: talking and then I said, hey, mate, why don't we

863
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 5: do this? Why don't we launch this thing called thirty

864
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 5: six months and drive a campaign to change the age

865
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 5: Because the stories are just horrendous. You know, the statistics

866
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 5: about the hospitalization of young teens from self harm, it's

867
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 5: up two hundred and seventy five percent.

868
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: Wow. They talk about I mean, Dove ran a fantastic

869
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: campaign and it's the impact of social media, and their

870
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: statistics read that one in two young girls will experience

871
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: some psychological damage from the impact of social media. One

872
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: in two.

873
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 5: So we sit here now as parents and we think,

874
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 5: imagine if there was a product on the shelf, like

875
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 5: a shampoo, and every second person that used it had

876
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 5: some sort of psychological damage, that product wouldn't be on

877
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 5: the shelf for a second. More So, why does it

878
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 5: exist now? And there are so many layers to this.

879
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 5: So there's so many layers to the bullying and the creepiness,

880
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 5: and the other side of the coin is the attention

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Speaker 5: span of kids that they're selling and the smart algorithms.

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Speaker 5: But you know, the bullying and the I mean social media.

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Speaker 5: I think the best way to describe it, it's an

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Speaker 5: insecurity amplifier. Oh yeah, and especially for young teens at

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Speaker 5: such a sensitive time going through puberty, trying to find yourself,

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Speaker 5: and you know, sort of what we've been saying is

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Speaker 5: get to know yourself before the rest of the world does.

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Speaker 1: So that's why we launched. When was that How long ago?

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Speaker 1: That was in May? So it's all happened really quickly,

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Speaker 1: point where we've almost been surprised. And what's interesting, ninety

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Speaker 1: five percent of the signatures are mums. Wow, the power

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Speaker 1: of the mother army is massive. One last question before

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Speaker 1: you go.

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Speaker 3: When your children are all grown up, they're no longer

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Speaker 3: at home, when Cheska Jack got it so close, mate,

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Speaker 3: when they're no longer living with you under the regime,

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Speaker 3: what's the one thing they'd.

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Speaker 1: Like them to remember about the house they grew up in.

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Speaker 1: I would like to say fun.

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Speaker 5: I know that sounds basic, but my dad was an

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00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 5: only child and he said, you know what I love

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00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 5: about coming to your house to have dinner and things.

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Speaker 1: It's always just fun.

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Speaker 5: But also the ridiculousness of the games that we make

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Speaker 5: up in the backyard, the little pro decks that are

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00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 5: all designed for bonding experiences. So recently we built a swing.

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Speaker 5: Every time we build something in the backyard, it costs

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Speaker 5: more than buying the bloody thing, but it's not about that.

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Speaker 5: So we built like a timber seat that we hung

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Speaker 5: from the tree. So to do that, we had to

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00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 5: buy the timber from Bunnings and then we were all

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Speaker 5: standing and then we're all painting together in the garage

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Speaker 5: and then we hammer in the nails and then we

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Speaker 5: strap it up with the rope and we're all on

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Speaker 5: the swing.

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Speaker 1: Kids in hospital. But it was it's not about the swing.

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Speaker 1: Like jack said the other day or for Mother's Day,

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Speaker 1: we made flower presses and Jackson, dad, I'm not interested

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Speaker 1: in a flower press, I had to say to a mate,

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00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: neither am I do you know what?

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Speaker 5: Do you know what it is about? It's about drilling

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00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 5: the hole, It's about choosing the flower. It's about going

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Speaker 5: on the adventure to Centennial Park to go and pick

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00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 5: the flowers we want to choose. And it's about going

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Speaker 5: to buy a frame to put it in for mum

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Speaker 5: and writing some nice words to much which we get

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Speaker 5: all to do together. That's what it's about. Like we

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Speaker 5: have a tinny that we go fishing in. It's a

929
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Speaker 5: four point two meter Quinn tracks. It's nothing flash and

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Speaker 5: it's not about the fishing. It's about getting up and going, hey, Ted,

931
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Speaker 5: you're the captain today, so you've got to check that

932
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 5: the rods are there. You need to check the bungs

933
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 5: are in the boat. You need to check there's enough

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Speaker 5: life jackets. Put your captain's hat on, and we've got

935
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Speaker 5: enough fuel, all right. So that's all it's about. Nothing

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Speaker 5: to do with the whether we catch it.

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Speaker 1: Have you actually caught any fish?

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Speaker 5: Well, we take we put a GoPro down, so we

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Speaker 5: always go, we've caught something on camera, it's attached to the.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, we catch something on film. Yeah, my own microsman.

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Speaker 1: What's the Quinn tracks? Beautiful brand on mate, I'll take

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Speaker 1: you out.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we've It's been an absolute pleasure you guys

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Speaker 3: a great dad.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Thank you for having me. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on a wonderful podcast. Thank you so much. Appreciated.

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Speaker 3: What an absolute gentleman. Loves the chat, loves it very funny,

948
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Speaker 3: very funny guy funny than I remember. I felt like

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Speaker 3: you guys really bonded over the renovations.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we have to.

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Speaker 3: We'll have to cut out nine percent of the renovation

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Speaker 3: chat because everyone's like, shut up, we.

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