WEBVTT - Molly & Nick - F BOY ISLAND - Reality TV Contestants 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.040 TV Reload, the podcast past weep Aline. Welcome back guys 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:07.240 to TV Reload. As you may know, my name is 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.040 Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get all 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:12.680 the inside goss on the popular TV shows you may 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.239 be watching from around the world. 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This chat, 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.280 I'm joined by Molly and Nick from f Boy Island 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.960 and we're going to unpack one of the most explosive 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.680 reality series ever made in this country. Molly joined two 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.880 other single women tasks with the impossible job of sorting 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.080 out who was an f boy and who was a 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:03.080 nice guy and so over ten episodes, Australia fell in 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.039 love with Nick, who wasn't a prick and got the 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.240 nickname Big Dick Nick. This episode is for the fans 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.800 of the Binge series and if you were easily offended 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.119 you've probably. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:13.880 Just switched off anyway. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.760 But if you're sticking around, prepare to be well more offended. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.119 Please check out the show. If you didn't see it, 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.640 it is as I said on Binge Australia, it isn't 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.840 for the faint hearted. But along with host Abby Chadfield, 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.320 this show I felt was a breath of fresh air 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:31.600 in the dating reality space. I will ask Molly why 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.400 she picked Nick over Vernon and if those nicknames lived 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.560 up to the expectation. Nick will talk about the excruciating 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.640 pain of watching Molly's unscreened but still. 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.560 Audibly heard hookup with Vernon. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.080 We will get some exclusive news on whether or not 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.400 there's going to be a season two, what these guys 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.400 think of an f Girl Island, and what advice they 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:57.080 have for producers rolling into a series two. Plus, we'll 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.600 get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of Fby 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.240 Ireland and which you can already watch as I mentioned 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:06.080 on Binge and Foxtel. Anyway, let's bring Molly and Nick 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.000 into the podcast. This is going to be a lot 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:11.400 of fun and guys, I really hope you enjoyed this episode. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:13.720 How are you both? Are you all right? 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:14.840 Yeah? We're both were. 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:17.240 Trauma now. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:23.200 But other than that, what a wild ride this show 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.360 was like. Had you both had any idea what you 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.520 were signing yourselves up for when you said yes to doing. 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.519 It, absolutely not. I think you know, there's any so 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.679 much you can prepare yourself. I never even watched the 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.919 US series of the show because I wanted to have 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:41.400 my own experience. I definitely didn't expect to end up 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.120 in a relationship. I hoped, but you know, with a 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.960 lot of f boys being on there, you know, you 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:48.040 never know what's going to happen. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.440 You know, some producers will say, you know, if there 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.000 has already been a franchise, you know it's been seen overseas, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.800 they'll say to people, don't watch the overseas version because 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.920 you might kind of impersonate yourself for it might have 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.519 effect the social experiment side of things. Did you both 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:05.920 have that conversation with producers or do you make up 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:07.280 your own minds not to watch it. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.320 His own minds. I mean, I didn't watch it just 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.240 in case. I didn't want that to be what I 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.359 was trying to I don't know, portray like or do 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.239 you know, do the same thing that I've seen on 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.160 an American version of the show. Like, I just wanted 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.280 the show to be a whole, brand new experience. 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:24.480 Yeah. I think that was my thing too. I wanted 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:25.920 to kind of dive in. 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.600 I think you can overanalyze things a lot and go in, 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.360 you know, with all these plans and things, and it 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.680 never really works out that way anyway. So yeah, I 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.440 just wanted to have my own experience so decided not to. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.240 But also, I think up until now, up until now 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.160 they put it on Binge, it was very hard to 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:42.080 access as well. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.880 You did your parents or anyone say to you, maybe 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.040 don't go on a show that's got like f boy 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.120 on the title, Like, was there anyone saying that they 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:54.240 had any hesitations about you doing it? My dad, Mollie, 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.640 please tell me that your dad has not watched the show? 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.680 God no, my parents fled to Europe, it was there 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.280 any Well. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.040 I kind of feel like this show broke a lot 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.080 of ground in terms of shaking things up in the 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.480 reality TV dating space. You know, we saw women like 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.720 we've never seen women before. Why have we waited so 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.599 long to see sex positive women being screened in a 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:18.279 positive light. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.880 I think there's been a lot of changes probably over 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.920 the last five or ten years in terms of women 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.960 and women's sexuality and what we see, and I think, yeah, 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.240 now is the time we kind of I think the 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.360 really good thing about being on a streaming service is 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.280 we were able to include a little bit more and 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.520 things did get a little bit racier, but I think 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.640 it was a better depiction of what dating actually looks 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.680 like in the twenty first century, rather than just picnics 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:47.920 and sunsets and a couple of glasses of champagne. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:49.080 There's a few of them. 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:53.280 There was the things that you normally see on dating shows. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.920 But it felt like a punch in the face with 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.600 some of the dialogue and some of the conversation. And 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.240 that's so strange that we've felt like that watching the show, 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.480 because they very like that's what we talk about, and 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.560 that's how we talk in real world, Like that's what 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.760 conversations happening. It just because we were so not used 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.680 to seeing it on television. It felt like you were 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.839 sort of being slapped around, which I've got to say, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:14.440 I really. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.200 Enjoyed like a good slapping around. 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.440 As long as Nick Molly, as long as Nick's involved. 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.640 Were there moments though, that either of you were particularly 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.479 worried about, because you've obviously had the experience. They filmed it, 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.920 and then it's going to be on television. People are 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.880 going to watch this in the masses. Had you been 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.960 worried about certain things that people are going to see? 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.640 Not me that I all my scenes were pretty I 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:39.440 was pretty happy with. 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.640 So Bloody put Nick up on a pedestal. He was 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:42.600 mister perfect. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:43.640 I was going a job. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.960 I think you never know how people are going to 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.719 perceive you, and there's always going to be people that 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.320 you know are your fans, and then people on the 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:57.240 other hand who don't like you, which is just kind of, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.160 you know, what comes with the territory. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.200 So I was kind of ready for that. I honestly thought. 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.719 There would have been a little bit more backlash or 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.800 not hate, so to speak, but a few more kind 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.479 of comments saying that they didn't like the racing nature 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.880 of the show. So I was actually prepared for a 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:15.400 bit more. 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.200 What do people come up and say to you? Maybe, Nick, 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.480 you know, what's the most common thing that people who 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.080 are watching the show have come up and said you 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:22.520 on the street. 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:25.320 Look, everyone's just pretty positive. Like everyone just comes up 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.279 and they're happy. They're like, oh my god, are you Nique? 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.000 And then like, oh you Molly. They're just like no 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.400 one has like no one wants to get you know, 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.880 delved deep into like how is you know, how do 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.400 you feel like about this certain situation? It's mostly positive 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.720 unless you know and then maybe I guess people that 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:44.200 know you on a more personal level, some people have 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:48.400 asked like how did you deal with watching that? And 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.320 like when you the whole experience was back in January, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.360 so that's three or four months ago. I was just 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.039 getting to know Molly. We'd only been you know, I 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.520 think on four dates in total on the Tea TV show. 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:02.960 We really started dating getting to know each other once 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.520 we got off the TV show and we got to 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.080 see each other like every two weeks, not on camera, 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:11.600 not in front of you know, the producers, and you know, 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.880 away from away from the spotlight and just being together 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:15.679 and yeah. 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.640 Have you been hiding? Have you been told to not 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.080 be in public. How have you tried to cover this up? 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.080 You know until the finale was screened. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.920 Thankfully, unlike other shows, we had a very small time 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.160 where we had to kind of hide away and keep 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.200 our relationship because they edited the show really quick. So 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.960 was fantastic for us because we didn't have to wait 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.200 nearly as long. You know, some couples have to wait 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.600 months before they you know, can be seen in public. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.040 So there's there's been times where you know, we've been 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.400 in hoodies and caps and glasses picking each other up 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.040 from the airport, or like I've come up to Sydney 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.040 and just stayed even had to you know uber it's 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.240 copies and things because they couldn't go out and get one. 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:54.520 But yeah, thankfully it wasn't too long for us. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.920 And then Nikki, your parents or your friends or family, 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.600 you know, did they watch the show? And I mean 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.880 we just mentioned it before you did get sort of 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.200 put on a pedestal and shown very well. But what 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.600 were they all saying about your time on the show. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:10.600 So, I mean they've been also supportive of it. We 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.600 always have a viewing at my cousin's house every Monday. 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:17.920 Everyone comes over friend's family. Obviously it's a character that's 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.760 portrayed in that there is definitely truth behind it. I 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.520 am a nice guy and I am like that. The 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.840 violin music, I don't know where that came from, but 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.560 my family loved that and they thought it was so funny. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.360 All of that editing was so funny, you know, first 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.800 to watch, I mean, I don't necessarily think you'd be 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.880 as goofy as that. Like, I felt like some of 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.480 those shots of you sort of giggling to yourself kind 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.360 of got replayed a little bit, which I'm going to 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.400 say I was there for Molly. Is Nick the real deal, though, 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.880 because I feel like I've watched this show and I 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:51.679 don't know what's been made of him to be kind 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.400 of goofy. Has that been staged or does Australia have 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:56.520 a good sense of who he is? 0:08:57.000 --> 0:09:00.240 I think deep down he's an absolute sweet But I 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.000 think I even questioned at the start, I was like, 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.640 this guy, he can't be a nice guy. He's too 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.920 bloody handsome, like he's he's here, you know, to get 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:11.800 his blue teeth on Instagram and I definitely judged him 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.120 to begin with. But no, he is the caddle where 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.599 he loves the cuddle and he has a. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:19.200 Heart of gold. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.640 Although you know he's not probably as perfect as pictured 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.720 on the show, he's pretty. 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.839 Close to I want to ask about those nicknames in 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.280 a second, but Nick, I have to ask you about something, 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.080 and that is you know this series, they sort of 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.160 play men to either be a nice guy or an 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:40.160 F boy. I kind of feel like we could be both. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.000 Like what do you think can't we be a little 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.679 bit of both? Like is it right that we can 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.480 be classified as one or the other? 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.439 Yeah? I going to agree with you. Like it's self proclaimed. 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.880 They tried to divide people, but it's not like you're 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:56.200 either an F boy or a nice guy. You're always 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.040 You're always a bit of a mix. You know, at 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.959 different times or maybe in your periods of your life 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:01.719 you might have been an F boy. You might have been, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.000 But you can tell when you meet a nice guy. 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.400 There's certain values that a nice guy will have. And 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.960 after meeting all the F boys on the show and 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.199 the ones that you knew, for example, Caleb, you can 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.040 just tell that, like he could be a nice guy 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.800 eventually somewhere down the track. But just I don't know, 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.520 if you know he's hurt or he's not emotionally available 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.800 right now, Like there's obviously something going on his life, 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.920 So it's always a bit of there could be a 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.240 bit of trauma there too. It's not as cutthroat as 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.320 you're either an f boy or you're a nice guy. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.840 I think you could have a spinoff series Nick, where 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:39.559 you you know, kind of like what Abbi Chadfield was doing, 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:41.679 and you can teach them like take them on the 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.400 road to recovery and how they can see the light 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:45.680 and become a nice guy. 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:49.080 I'd love to do that. I would watch Nick. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.080 There's some pretty big questions left in the finale. But 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.520 and I know that everyone has been talking about this. 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.679 We have to talk about these nicknames, Cuddle Bet and 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:04.320 Big Dick, Nick Molly, those nicknames. Does Nick live up 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:05.199 to those nicknames? 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.120 Look? Who has exceeded expectations? 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.640 Glad to hear it all day, guys. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.240 Knowing that I was going to talk to the two 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.400 of you, and knowing how many people spoke to me 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:19.160 and said you need to ask that question, I felt 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.120 sick in my stomach, like I actually feel like I 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.760 could be myself now. But if I didn't ask that question, 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.480 people would be like, you didn't ask the most important question, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.880 and then other people would be like you are a sick, 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.120 perverted idiot, like what is wrong with you? 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:34.360 I was very surprised when she said that name. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.520 I think it was one of the crew that told 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:37.760 me that. 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:44.080 Really, I'm not sure how that yeah got around town 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.120 to begin with, but what was definitely an interesting nickname 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:47.880 there was. 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:49.640 I was room with a lot of the footy boys 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.160 in the house. Yeah, and I think it's just a 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.320 normal thing that I guess you just walk around naked 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.640 when you're showering, getting ready and stuff. So how it 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.040 came to big dick nick, I don't know, but had 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:01.800 a good bring to it. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.960 You're okay with it, You're all right. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.120 And then with the finale, so Vernon really got stitched 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.960 up in that finale. Have you spoken to him since? 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:15.480 Because it was brutal, like he walked out, tried to 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.360 hug Abby Chadfield, she shunned him. Everyone kind of thought 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.800 he was a moron. Have you both been in contact 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:21.360 with him since? 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.880 Yeah, we've definitely both chatted to Vernon, and I think 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.440 there's no hard feelings on either side. It was it 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.880 was only you know, probably two and a half three 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.679 weeks that I spent with Vernon wasn't enough time for 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.560 me to be, you know, scarred for life over what happened. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:37.800 And I knew that Vernon would kind of take it 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.079 in his stride as well. 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.400 He's a pretty easy going bloke. I think it was 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:43.360 just happy to be there. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.120 So yeah, we're definitely you know, spoken to him and 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.160 you know, no hard feelings on either side. 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.760 We'll just information that you probably both don't need to know. 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.560 But Nick, sorry about this, but my partner and I 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.720 we were either team Nick or team Vernon, and I 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:03.640 was Nick, so you're welcome. He was team Vernon and 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.360 he was very upset that Molly, you didn't go with Vernon. 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.920 I was like, I couldn't see it. Didn't. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:14.160 People either get the appeal or they don't at all. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.160 But how did the decision to bring his ex girlfriend 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:20.320 Brogan or whatever is that even a real name into 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.240 the finale? Like, Molly, did you make that decision with 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.760 a producer that maybe we should contact her or we 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.720 should look into the social media. 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.559 I'd love to know how that. 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.120 Big reveal which made the finale what it was, How 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:34.080 did that all come together? 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.120 I think we had already accessed the boys social media 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.160 during one of the group dates, and it just kept 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:43.480 coming back that you know, Vernon had gotten rid of 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.280 his girlfriend to come on the show. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.360 So it's just a matter of yeah, thanks Mitch, Mitch. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.320 So it was just a matter of kind of change 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.440 to producers me like, hey, can I have a phone 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.720 and to have a bit of a look. Very easy 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.800 to find Brogan on Instagram, just going through Vernon's friends 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.640 and then you know, typing in her name and then 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.400 contacting her, and thankfully she was happy enough to first 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.320 of all have a conversation with me and then to 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.800 actually come and turn up to the finale. 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:12.240 I think took a lot of balls. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:15.880 It was such good television. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.880 Like as in normally, like dating shows, you've got the 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.560 reveal as to whether or not people getting together. This 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.480 just was like, you know, shock revelation after shock revelation, 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.600 and it broke round because we have heard of people 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.920 or characters outside of the storylines that are being built 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.920 that you never get to see unless they, you know, 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.120 turn up on an unsolicited podcast. You know, you just 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:38.800 would never get to hear their side of the story. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.120 So the fact that we watched that happen was magic television. 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.000 Turns out that I don't like any of the rules, 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:45.920 and I vote your guys off and then brought them 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:50.120 back and then brought the ex misses only. 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.760 Do you think, though, that he's learned his lesson out 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.560 of this, Like, do you think being sort of shunned 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.600 like that or shamed like that? Do you think that 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.920 that will have changed who he is and how he 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:01.920 approaches women. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.760 I think he's always going to be a pretty jovial, 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.120 fun loving guy. I think he means well a lot 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.080 of the time, but just doesn't really think things through. 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.160 Yeah, I think it definitely will. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.320 And I know he's in a new relationship now and 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:17.680 so definitely wish him all the best with that. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:23.200 But she seems to be going well. Like from what 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.760 I knew, I thought he was a really nice guy. Now, Yeah, 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.600 obviously didn't get to watch the IVS until everyone else did. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.760 But you know, I, like you said before, it's sort 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.240 of it's a mix. You're not really one or the other. Like, 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.240 he does have nice guy traits, so you know he's 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.560 not going to change. He is who he is. But 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:44.640 he seems to be happy in his relationship at the moment, 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:45.760 and I wish him the best. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.680 I like that you're talking about the ivs. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:49.920 You know, these piece to cameras, you know that people 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:51.760 get to see, and you probably were a little bit 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.920 shocked about that. But Nick, how uncomfortable was it watching 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:59.280 the unseen but audibly heard hookup between Molly and him? Like, 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.560 did you leave the room? Did Molly prepare you for it? 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.480 I just want to know, because I'm a sick o 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:05.640 what that experience was, Like. 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.600 A, yeah, look, I mean I knew after the show. 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.200 Molly obviously told me about it. Yeah, I'm glad she 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.840 didn't tell me during the show because I just would 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.320 have been I don't know, mentally, wouldn't have been there, you. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.360 Wouldn't be on a podcast together. I just feel like 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.680 that's the case. You know, he's got some social intelligence, 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.320 and she knows that for things to work out, she's 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.000 going to have to tell you the truth eventually. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:30.720 So it was good that you did tell me. But 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.920 there's one It's the difference between hearing it and then 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.160 seeing it. You know, at the same time, Man and 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.440 Molly were just dating at that point, so we've been 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:42.200 on to two hour dates or something like that. We'll 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.280 getting to know each other. But it's nothing like you 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:46.760 wouldn't do in you know, the real world when you're dating, 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.440 you know, and trying to find a partner. I know 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.240 it was on a TV show and you know, the 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.080 whole of Australia got to see it. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.720 But but isn't that so strange Again we come back 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:58.200 to this thing. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.480 You know. Maybe it's because we were brought up watching 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.440 Disney movies where we thought that romance was this beginning 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.360 in the middle and an end. But that just isn't 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.240 the case, and it never has been. Like if you're 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.639 going to be a single man or a single girl 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.280 and you're out in the world, you know, you may 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:14.240 be on a dating someone for a few weeks and 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.119 then go to a nightclub and kiss someone else, you 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:19.280 know what I mean, Like you're not expected to be 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.879 Prince Charming, nor are you supposed to be Cinderella in 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:24.960 the real world just doesn't play like that. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:29.159 Yeah, and I think if roles were reversed and I 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.399 was in an exposition, I wouldn't love it. 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.600 But he has been a very good sport about it. 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:35.760 Good to hear, that's all I want to know. 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:38.600 We did talk about some of the criticisms that people 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.320 may have had and you were saying that, you know, 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.880 you really didn't see too much of that. I read 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.240 some stuff about Abby Chadfield being a little bit too involved. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.000 I personally loved it and thought probably one of the 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.760 best TV presenting jobs I've ever seen done, especially seeing 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.920 that she was relatively new to it. But how did 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.880 it feel while production was going, like, while you're filming 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.760 that and she was sort of getting involved in the 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.439 d and having very strong opinions whilst hosting some of 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:07.520 those eliminations, was it uncomfortable or were you like, go Abby, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:08.400