1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's. 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: The pup test this morning, the minister being named and 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: stepping down. 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 3: Does it pass the pub test? 5 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 2: Well, look, here's the story. Prime Minister Scott Morrison has 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: received an anonymous letter alleging the rape of a woman 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: in the nineteen eighties by a person who is now 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: a cabinet minister. Wasn't them the cabinet minister, Our prime 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: minister has said, rejects this allegation. The letter was sent 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: to several members of Parliament and alleges that this woman 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: was raped at the age of sixteen. She has passed away. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: She took her life two years ago. The woman's friends 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: and her lawyer have demanded an inquiry. The woman herself wrote, 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: has written about this, has spoken about this, but didn't 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: formally file a police complaint a police statement. She was 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: on the cusp of doing it, pulled back and then 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: took her own life. So this means that I don't know. 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: I'm not a legal person. I don't know how that 19 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: can be prosecuted. Having said that her friends and lawyer 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: are demanding an inquiry, the Prime Minister has backed this 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: Cabinet minister on Monday, saying this has gone to the 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: Federal Police and they will do what they need to do. 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: Other people are saying that that's not good enough. We 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: have a situation where if you are a sportsperson in 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: this country you are stood aside. You're named and stood 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 2: aside during an inquiry. Even if we have people in 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: corporate life, even in consensual relationships, you were named and 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: stood down while there's an inquiry. Scott Morrison has quite 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: rightly said we can't have a situation where the mere 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: making of an allegation or something published through the media 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: is grounds for people in the government to be stood down. 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: But in other parts of our society that is exactly 33 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: what happened. 34 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: Loer Greig Welm. 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: Look at Jeffrey Rush. 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Look at number of footballers exactly the same thing has 37 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: happened to them. So what do you think the minister 38 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: being named and stepping down. 39 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: Does it pass the pub teme? 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 4: Yes? 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: Well. 42 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: An Adelaide woman left behind a number of emails, letters 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: and statements describing an alleged rape when she was sixteen 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: years old by a man who is now a senior 45 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: Cabinet minister. The woman's friends and have pender letter alongside 46 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: her lawyer demanding an inquiry into this. The woman has 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: taken her own life. In nineteen twenty nineteen, the Prime 48 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: Minister has said we can't have a situation where the 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: mere making of an allegation and that being published through 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: the media is grounds for the government to stand down people. 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: Having said that, in other schools of other lines of life, 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: for example, if you're a footballer, if you're in the 53 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 2: corporate world, we see it every day. Even in consensual relationships, 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: people are named and stood aside while there is an inquiry. 55 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: So what do you think the minister at the center 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: of this being named and stepping down penning an inquiry. 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Does this pass the pub test? 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: I think it does without evidence, without having the opportunity 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: to center people just thought their own appears. Oh they're guilty. 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: They stood down straight away, a mission of guilty in 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: people's eyes. And that's not always the case. 62 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent. 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 4: Yes. 64 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: These people have been chosen to represent the public. They 65 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: keep getting themselves into all this trouble and it doesn't 66 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: matter whether it's an allegation or not. Politicians of both 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: sides of Parliament need to start getting with the program 68 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: and treating people with humanity and not burying everything. 69 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, Look in Australia, we just let people get away 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: with this sort of thing all the time. You know, 71 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 4: there's an estimated ninety three percent of rates we get 72 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: away with in the country. Nothing's been done about it, 73 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: when It'sustralia going to step up and do something about it. 74 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 4: It's just the crime that gets a way too easily 75 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 4: and what we're just going to let him go To 76 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 4: the politicians Australia, they. 77 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: Should be named in shame. 78 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 4: Marathon's bringing a scumback, he's protecting his mate. 79 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: The guy has to be stood down. 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: It's appalling. 81 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: Their treatment of women will bring them down. It's got 82 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: to stop. 83 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: Interesting. 84 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: Thank you for all your calls. 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's Nation