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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast. Happy Monday, guys. Today we

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<v Speaker 1>chatted about why flights always get canceled. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>Monik Ryan from cou Jong and the Prestige Trap. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Flex and froomes on CADA. Do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>wonder why so many flights in Australia are late? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me why one in three flights are delayed on three?

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<v Speaker 1>This is an endemic of the highest order. We clearly

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<v Speaker 1>have not recovered post COVID, but we persevere. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a TikTok from Monique Ryan. She is the She's a

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<v Speaker 1>teal member somewhere in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>Coo youong?

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps she usp Josh Rounberg. Anyway, guys, obviously I what

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<v Speaker 1>is it?

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<v Speaker 2>God?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Dog?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make the TikTok. She's got an explanation.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want to know the real reason why flights

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia always get canceled? It's because the Australian government

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much allows Quantas and other airlines to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get away with them.

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<v Speaker 3>In other countries, there's laws which force airlines to pay

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<v Speaker 3>customers if their flights are delayed or canceled not Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>It means they're ripping off customers and they're recording huge

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<v Speaker 3>profits from it. As a result, one in three flights

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<v Speaker 3>are delayed and one in twenty five are canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>I need no babes. How else am I supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>get from Melbourne to Sydney? Do I need to take

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<v Speaker 1>a boat? At this stage, I really don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I would really like there to be a fast train.

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<v Speaker 1>Clear that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But then what is the alternative?

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<v Speaker 4>Because the system in America or the United States of

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<v Speaker 4>America and Canada is pretty flawed as well. I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>sure if you've experienced this idea of standby. So when

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<v Speaker 4>you buy a ticket for a flight in the United

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<v Speaker 4>States of America, you it grants you access, but you're

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<v Speaker 4>not guaranteed a seat, And so after you buy your ticket,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to select your seat to confirm that you

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<v Speaker 4>have a spot on the plane. Now, they openly oversell

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<v Speaker 4>these seats because they know that there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>money to lose if you fly a plane or you

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<v Speaker 4>leave and all the seats aren't full. So what happens

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<v Speaker 4>is if you get put on standby It means that

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<v Speaker 4>you have to wait to see if everybody else is

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<v Speaker 4>boarded the plane, and if you don't have a seat there,

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<v Speaker 4>they'll I think this is Delta and it was a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll offer you eight hundred dollars. Oh really.

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<v Speaker 4>Now there's a bit of a conspiracy or a theory

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<v Speaker 4>or a scam where people purposely book themselves on really

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<v Speaker 4>full flights, really popular flights that they don't have to catch,

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<v Speaker 4>knowing that they're going to be given this eight hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars incredible, So it's like a two way scam.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kansas is each other out. Listen. When I flew

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<v Speaker 1>with a redacted airline in America, I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the real Boogie one, but it was actually the

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<v Speaker 1>lowest tier situation. I'm not I won't tell you on

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<v Speaker 1>air it was. Now the guys, I will not share.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know where the dollars are going to come in, guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey knows it too. Tell me why they put me

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<v Speaker 1>a flight from Sydney to San Francisco and then San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisu to New York and there's a half hour layover

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm coming internationally. Thing, Oh, this is brilliant. I

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<v Speaker 1>paid extra for this, like very.

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<v Speaker 2>Specific, it was a fast track moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And tell me why I then had to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio of all places. I did meet some ministering people

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane, and by interesting I meant by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the trip, I wish I wasn't seeing next

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<v Speaker 1>to them. But you live in your learn.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you agree with the sentiment that if it didn't suck,

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<v Speaker 4>if it wasn't the worst in the world, it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>have to be marketed as prestigious.

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<v Speaker 2>You might think of being a.

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<v Speaker 4>Politician, you know, like it feels like a prestigious job

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<v Speaker 4>to do, but realistically when you're there, it might just suck.

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<v Speaker 4>You might say dating rich, you know, like pursuing someone

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<v Speaker 4>who has more money.

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<v Speaker 2>Than you might seem like a really cool thing.

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<v Speaker 4>We've heard a lot of horror stories about people feeling

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<v Speaker 4>as though they can't escape those dynamics because they don't

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<v Speaker 4>have anything to their name and they can't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>I was scrolling through TikTok as I do and came

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<v Speaker 4>across this video from Go Beyond Ambition that's talking a

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<v Speaker 4>lot about how we might need to be a bit

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<v Speaker 4>more discerning about things that are presented or marketed to

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<v Speaker 4>us as being prestigious, because again, if it really was

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<v Speaker 4>all that would it needle this extra pay off.

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<v Speaker 1>If it didn't suck, they wouldn't have had to make

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<v Speaker 1>it prestigious.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's another bombshell that blew my mind. If you have

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<v Speaker 5>two options, one being more prestigious but not as enjoyable,

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<v Speaker 5>versus one that's like something that you're more into but

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<v Speaker 5>less prestigious, do the less prestigious and speaking from experience,

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<v Speaker 5>do the.

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<v Speaker 1>Less prestigious one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this essay completely blew my mind. It's like kind

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<v Speaker 5>of ironic though, because the writer of it, Paul Graham,

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<v Speaker 5>he's literally the founder of y Combinator, another company. He

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<v Speaker 5>went to Harvard, so I would say he's pretty qualified

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<v Speaker 5>to talk about prestige. He gets on to basically say

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<v Speaker 5>that prestige is the opinion of the world, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>how the world gets people to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that kind of suck.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I think about a few of my friends who

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<v Speaker 4>currently lawyers, and they are some of the most depressed morally.

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<v Speaker 1>Areft.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like this.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, a lot of us deal with like this

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<v Speaker 4>moral contradiction of like not really feeling as though that

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<v Speaker 4>we are acting in a way that truly aligns with us.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know the lengths that they've expressed having to

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<v Speaker 4>go against their morals and to uphold a system that

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<v Speaker 4>is truly built for one person in mind. I was

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<v Speaker 4>talking to a friend of mine who dropped out of

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<v Speaker 4>law school. It was just part of the curriculum, and

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<v Speaker 4>they were talking about whatever, and they were talking about

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<v Speaker 4>common phrases and so innocent until proven guilty, Like the

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<v Speaker 4>origins of that are as sinister as you'd imagine it

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<v Speaker 4>to be. Because the people who would need that, the

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<v Speaker 4>people who wouldn't have to benefit from that kind of rule,

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<v Speaker 4>are people doing objectively bad things, and what more lea

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<v Speaker 4>way for that? And she was like, wait, so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have to use this as permission to let someone

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<v Speaker 4>who's doing a terrible thing get more leeway so they

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<v Speaker 4>can muster up the money and muster up the support

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<v Speaker 4>and muster up the connections to fight against this thing

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<v Speaker 4>that they are probably guilty of and do it again

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<v Speaker 4>and again and again.

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<v Speaker 1>And this reminds me of like every person who did

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<v Speaker 1>like a double degree, like King, you did that thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of you, it's your parents or like friends who've gone

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<v Speaker 1>to do like uni degrees when they really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do like a trade. They thought they had to do

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<v Speaker 1>the you need to go and then they've gone back

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<v Speaker 1>to do mature age trade. That's got to hit differently.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you got it, some derogatory mature age trade. But

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<v Speaker 2>I see you, I hear you.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't ever saying yeah like the people who've been

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<v Speaker 1>doing it since I fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would say it's one of those things where

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<v Speaker 4>I am a personally likes to make my own mistakes.

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<v Speaker 4>I really hate hearing from other people what I should

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<v Speaker 4>and should not do, So I can understand that like

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<v Speaker 4>this might come across as like do the thing that

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<v Speaker 4>you really want to do for fear that it might

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<v Speaker 4>be bad. But it is interesting to see that when

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<v Speaker 4>we look at people in positions of prestige, very few

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<v Speaker 4>of them have glowing things to say, Hello, lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a listener message us. They are under duress,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something that we have all experienced, but this

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<v Speaker 1>one is particularly bad. She wants to tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>a time her ex boyfriend has tried to force her

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<v Speaker 1>to pay back all the money that he spent on

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<v Speaker 1>her in their relationship, which is now defunct. The relationship

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<v Speaker 1>has been canceled, the investment discontinued. Here is her story.

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<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend and I got together when I was a teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a few years above me. We would sneak

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<v Speaker 1>around and have a little fun, and our relationship was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much toxic. Okay, I'd have to beg for a

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<v Speaker 1>little time for him to spend with me or to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me. He was just always quote unquote busy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wrote down every single thing he paid for

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<v Speaker 1>me or bought me as a gift. I'll do that

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, but he took it one further. This

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<v Speaker 1>is me listening to speaking, not the room speaking, not

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<v Speaker 1>the guy. When we broke up, he started demanding money

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<v Speaker 1>back and it's just so stupid. And he keeps threatening

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<v Speaker 1>me to sue me because he has proof that he

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<v Speaker 1>lent me money. But he just wrote down everything he

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<v Speaker 1>paid for in brackets, trips, movies, festivals, gas, restaurants, clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind you that I paid as well, but I never

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<v Speaker 1>asked for money back. The money I actually did ask

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<v Speaker 1>him I already returned. Is his stupid behavior or am

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<v Speaker 1>I tripping? Who's in fault here? Can he sue me

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<v Speaker 1>for this. Oh my words, you were saying earlier, Flexi,

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<v Speaker 1>that we spoken about a similar thing on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, we told a story of a BBC article

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<v Speaker 4>I was reading about this trend or this social movement

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<v Speaker 4>that was happening in China and Singapore where where women

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<v Speaker 4>who felt as though they lost their best years to

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<v Speaker 4>a partner who broke up with them were entitled to

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of payment after the dissolution of that relationship,

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<v Speaker 4>and for the most part they were getting money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. My personal opinion on such an experience is that

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<v Speaker 1>he played the game and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Lost one hundred like I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my word, where does one even begin.

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<v Speaker 2>This is ridiculous, it's one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sick of it, appalled. I think you should block him.

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<v Speaker 2>Just know he can't sue you.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if there was a verbal contract that he

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<v Speaker 4>was giving you these things with the intention to keep

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<v Speaker 4>the relationship strong, maybe he could sue you. That's a

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<v Speaker 4>verbal contract in Australian law. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't give someone something freely and then claim after

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that it was transactional and therefore you can

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<v Speaker 4>sue them.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's not going to sue you.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, respectfully, what did you give him that you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot put a monetary priceless price?

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<v Speaker 2>The love of a partner is priceless.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, many people would pay.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe one could argue he was overcompensating with the finances

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<v Speaker 4>because he knew that he was cashing in a check

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<v Speaker 4>that he could not pay, that he could not shop

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<v Speaker 4>for you as a true partner, So he had to

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<v Speaker 4>give you all that he could, which was money. Now

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<v Speaker 4>there is no relationship. He's lost out of that money.

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<v Speaker 4>He feels entitled to it. Get it from someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about the memories, King Price. You know what, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if there was like a way for a napp to

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<v Speaker 1>wipe all the memories, then it would be a fair trade. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like wipe all the memories from his brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know that he wouldn't know that he was

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<v Speaker 2>owed money, so it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be amazing with all parties here. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>considered being a digital nomad?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, have you ever done it? No? Of course not.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I found this story by a woman called Francesca Specter.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a writer somewhat of our similar vocation. FLEXI did

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<v Speaker 1>just launch a newsletter? When do we find it? No?

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<v Speaker 2>Deep dives please at substack.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct. So Francesca has written in The Guardian about the

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<v Speaker 1>realities of being a digital nomad. Here's what she said.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be sitting outside a hostel in Florence, doing

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<v Speaker 1>a nine to five riding shift for a Nottingham based

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<v Speaker 1>health and beauty retailer, cooling my overheating laptop in the shade,

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<v Speaker 1>while looking enviously at holidaymakers relaxing by the pool. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>me why all the times I've decided to bring my

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<v Speaker 1>laptop out into the wild, say at a beachside cafe

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<v Speaker 1>in my Chrosen suburb, I have to go home because

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<v Speaker 1>the flies are swatting around me. Is because having showered today,

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<v Speaker 1>Potentially then I go down to the beach. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go sit the laptop at icebergs? I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in the full pelt of the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the realities nobody talks about when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to being a digital nomad, working for yourself, working from home.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm under duress, the hidden truths, the hidden truths. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know if it was actually I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess people do go to balley and do it illegally.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you, I thought it was legal. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Leathal mean m no comment, no comment.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying everybody is doing it, but people definitely

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<v Speaker 4>go on visas that don't allow you to work and

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<v Speaker 4>then work online and get taxed in their home country.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't give me ideas not stimulating the Balinese economy, economy,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know, it is what it is.

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