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Speaker 2: Good morning to you, James.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you going Yeah good. I do apologize for our lateness. Firstly,

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Speaker 1: seems that there has been a situation unfolded at Nightcliff

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Speaker 2: We understand an unlawful entry.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're hearing, Katie. At the moment.

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Speaker 4: We've got police on the scene that were conducting forensics

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll keep an eye on things. Any idea,

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Speaker 4: No, they'll be there for a while longer yet, I'd say,

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Speaker 4: so that may be an indicator that there is more damage,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 1: We had also heard that potentially the Nightcliff Middle School

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll see what we can find out, now,

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Speaker 1: Assistant Commissioner, can I just ask you. I know that

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Speaker 4: Well, when a police officer makes an arrest, once that

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Speaker 1: Right, So it is generally a situation where a judge

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Speaker 1: It did seem for a while there like there was

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Speaker 1: Now, how are things going like when you look at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just tell us that number again over a month.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon see that drop or do you know?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to argue then that, you know, it sort

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Speaker 4: No, we're just focusing on community safety and putting in

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Speaker 3: That's a consert game.

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Speaker 1: Now, tell me is the Coffee with the Corp? Is

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is, So Coffee with a Cop will be

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were, and I've been to a number of

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Speaker 1: I reckon it's a good thing, you know, to have

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Speaker 1: to go and have a coffee with you guys.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if they've got concerns, raise them.

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Speaker 1: It does make it really good to have you nice

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Speaker 1: and accessible like that. James O'Brien, the Acting Assistant Commissioner

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Speaker 1: with the Northern Territory Police, really appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that we were running so late. Thank you

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katy.

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Speaker 2: He's five. He is a legend, that dog is.

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Speaker 3: He is a beautiful dog and a great companion.

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Speaker 1: Territory and of the Week once Jamie and he got

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Speaker 1: a I don't know whether he got a t bone

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Speaker 1: or what he got, but he deserves one for his birthday.

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Speaker 3: He gets looked at him. Thirty five in dog.

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Speaker 1: Years, thirty five in dog years, in his prime, in

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Speaker 1: his absolute prime, by the sounds of it.

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Speaker 3: Well you read the running sheets, and he's doing a

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Speaker 3: great job.

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Speaker 2: He truly is him and he's handler.

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Speaker 1: Last week, did they sort of single handedly got seven

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Speaker 1: people or something to basically walk to the police car

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Speaker 1: to get apprehended, didn't they?

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Speaker 4: Well they did, and the people have seen drafts. I

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Speaker 4: would crawl if I was told too.

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Speaker 2: He's pretty scary. He's pretty scary indeed.

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Speaker 1: Jamie O'Brien, thank you very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Very much appreciated. Thanks Katie, thank you you too,