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Speaker 1: There has been a lot of discussion over recent days

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Speaker 1: and weeks even longer. Let's be honest about some of

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Speaker 1: the issues that we have when it comes to crime

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Speaker 1: and anti social behavior and a nightcliff business is going

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Speaker 1: to drastic measures to protect their building, their staff and

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Speaker 1: also customers from crime, locking the doors during the day.

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Speaker 1: It comes after a sixty eight percent rising commercial break

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Speaker 1: ins compared to the same period last year. And the owner,

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Speaker 1: the co owner, i should say, of that business, Pork

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Speaker 1: and co Manfred Milts Millscombe joins me on the line

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Speaker 1: right now. Good morning to you, Manfred. True business Manfred,

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Speaker 1: have things been going? How have things been going at

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Speaker 1: your business? And have you been targeted by thieves?

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Speaker 2: It feels like we've a business in perfect July and

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Speaker 2: it's just like at the beginning of one two times

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Speaker 2: a week, but now it's been like constantly, especially in

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Speaker 2: the past week.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're just having a bit of an issue

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Speaker 1: with the phone line there man for hopefully we're able

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Speaker 1: to sort it out. But sorry, what did you say

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Speaker 1: you had been targeted a couple of times a week.

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Speaker 2: That was at the beginning of the when we took

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Speaker 2: over the business here, But now it's just like constantly

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Speaker 2: every day almost it's been like I don't want to

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Speaker 2: jinx it, but it's been like a couple of past

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Speaker 2: days it's been bit better now.

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Speaker 1: Man, for tell us exactly what you've been experiencing. When

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Speaker 1: it comes to those issues of crime and anti social behavior.

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Speaker 2: It's get the people coming to the store and thinking

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Speaker 2: that they can live without pains. You know, it's just

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Speaker 2: gets to that moment like what do I do here?

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Speaker 2: You know, you're apprehend and tell that the person I

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Speaker 2: saw you putting that into your pocket or it's down

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Speaker 2: your pants your back. Well, majority of the times I

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Speaker 2: don't want that thing back for what is down there

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Speaker 2: in their pants, but you know, it's just but usually

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Speaker 2: and I would say to myself as well, if they

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Speaker 2: don't give it back and they get aggressive, just like

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Speaker 2: you waste my time, you know, because I don't want

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Speaker 2: to put you into yourself into a situation where you

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Speaker 2: have to fight someone.

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Speaker 1: Oh exactly. You don't want them to be in danger,

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Speaker 1: and you don't want yourself for your staff to be

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Speaker 1: in a dangerous situation.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know. And then it's the safety of my

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Speaker 2: stuff is very important to me, you know, And that's

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Speaker 2: what we've said, and we've taken that traffic measure. If

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Speaker 2: you don't feel safe at the shop, please lock the door.

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Speaker 2: And I know we're not the only business who who

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Speaker 2: does that here in the area.

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Speaker 1: So you have taken that that approach, that's if things

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Speaker 1: are unsafe, keep the door locked, keep that front door locked.

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Speaker 1: And what's sort of driven that s what's driven that approach?

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Speaker 1: Is it the fact that you have had people coming

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Speaker 1: in and trying to steal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but but that way we can limit and you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of say, hey, we're letting people in one by one,

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Speaker 2: you know, but I don't want to do that as

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Speaker 2: a business owner. I want my customers to come to

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Speaker 2: the shop and be safe, you know, and enjoy and

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Speaker 2: look at the products and what they want to buy,

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Speaker 2: you know, or have a good time and sit down

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Speaker 2: in the cafe area.

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Speaker 1: Are you worried that it is going to keep customers

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Speaker 1: out as well as things if you do have to

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Speaker 1: continue to take that approach.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I actually do believe that. And it's not only

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Speaker 2: for us, you know, it's the hospitality interesting the industry

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Speaker 2: in general. You know, that's the suffering out of this,

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Speaker 2: you know, descrime and social behavior, you know, because quite

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Speaker 2: often people take for money in front of the store,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I would say to the people as well, like, look,

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Speaker 2: if you're hungry to come and talk to me, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to donate, you know, a couple of sandwiches

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Speaker 2: for you if you're really hungry or anything. It's now

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Speaker 2: I'm going to kick you away. It's not a crime,

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Speaker 2: you know to do that. But if you come and steal,

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Speaker 2: that's a problem for me.

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Speaker 1: Well that's exactly right, and make it and it makes

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Speaker 1: it really difficult to be able to run your business

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Speaker 1: and to be able to just have a safe, open

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Speaker 1: place that you know that people want to come in

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Speaker 1: and visits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we have a couple of schools around this area,

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Speaker 2: you know. And then quite often it's just I feel

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Speaker 2: for these kegs as roll you know, sometimes he's come

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Speaker 2: to the score, you know, and they have to see that,

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Speaker 2: you know, and then it's really unfortunately, are.

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Speaker 1: You worried that you know, or are you implementing or

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Speaker 1: should ask any other sort of security measures as well,

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Speaker 1: or what kind of you know, what kind of level

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Speaker 1: of security have your head to get to.

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Speaker 2: So we're actually engaged with the local security COMPYMPTHY in

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Speaker 2: Neptunet and what we saw with the Karma and Malak

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Speaker 2: then having the public order response Unity was we heard

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Speaker 2: from that community that it's been working and it's been

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Speaker 2: reducing I mean, it's not a long term solution, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's kind of like a short term and we

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Speaker 2: need to do something right now because having that security

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Speaker 2: on every now and then at nighttime, it's been helping us.

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Speaker 2: It's been driving away that bit of behavior from here,

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Speaker 2: and it's it's it's it's kind of like we feel safer,

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Speaker 2: you know, I can actually go and talk to the

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Speaker 2: customer over ather than attending a situation that I don't

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Speaker 2: want to deal with, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Manfred, have you have you raised the concerns with

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Speaker 1: the governmental with your local member?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Obviously our chief Minister and about is a

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Speaker 2: local member and I've been reaching out to her. I

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Speaker 2: do believe that I'll be actually meeting her in about

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Speaker 2: fifteen minutes so we can have a chair and talk

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Speaker 2: to the police as well. At the same time. It's

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Speaker 2: not it's not only ours, it's all the other businesses

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Speaker 2: around here as well. On the URL, his history and

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Speaker 2: we just we have that community minded like what can

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Speaker 2: we do and what can we do better, you know,

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Speaker 2: to reduce this and who do we go to. Let's

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Speaker 2: let's find a holistic solution to this, you know, as

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Speaker 2: a community. You know, we're not pointing fingers because we

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Speaker 2: know the police is doing a wonderful job as well,

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Speaker 2: you know, and they're helping us as as as they can,

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Speaker 2: but we know quite often that they have other business

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Speaker 2: to attend, which which can be more more yeah, busy,

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Speaker 2: or much more important at that moment.

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Speaker 1: Man, from what are you hoping look from that meeting

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Speaker 1: with the finister, who's also of course the local member.

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Speaker 1: What are you hoping to kind of get out of

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Speaker 1: that meeting today? And ultimately what do you want to

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Speaker 1: see here? I'm assuming it is a situation where you

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Speaker 1: want to see less of this, you know, of these

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Speaker 1: issues so that you can run your business safely.

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Speaker 2: I believe that we want even a more security president

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Speaker 2: or police presidence in the area. And just just because

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Speaker 2: we've been trying to reduce some of the things ourselves,

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Speaker 2: you know, not sore for selling certain alcohol products or

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Speaker 2: you know, trying to talk to the people as well,

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Speaker 2: what is trving you to do this. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: just a it's just kind of to have more of

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Speaker 2: that safety in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: Oh, man Fred, I really appreciate you having a chat

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Speaker 1: with us this morning. I do holpe that that meeting

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Speaker 1: today does help in some way to try to see

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Speaker 1: a reduction in the level of issues that you're seeing

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Speaker 1: there at PORLK and Co. Because you know, fundamentally you're

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Speaker 1: trying to run a business. You want to be able

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Speaker 1: to run that business. You want yourself to feel safe,

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Speaker 1: the staff to feel safe, and customers to feel safe.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and it just says it's the whole community, you know,

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Speaker 2: like we want to feel safe here. It's not I know,

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Speaker 2: it's not only Nightclift here. It's I live in part

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Speaker 2: myself and I know there's problems like that over there

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Speaker 2: as well, you know, So it's just it's the whole

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Speaker 2: Darwin area. We all want to feel safe and be

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Speaker 2: your friends to get it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely well man for PORLK and Co. Owner, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you having a chat with us this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for your time and keep us

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Speaker 1: up to date. Let us know how you go with

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Speaker 1: that meeting. But I really hope you know that you're

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Speaker 1: able to see some change so that you can run

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Speaker 1: your business and run it in the way that you

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Speaker 1: want to and you're not having to lock yourselves in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, And thank you for having that song, Sadie.

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Speaker 1: Thank you