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Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear more kids podcasts, playlists, and listen

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Speaker 2: It's Woody Analysis in the studio, our junior producer, she

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Speaker 2: posed a great question.

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Speaker 1: Yes, who proof freads to the dictionary? We all want

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Speaker 1: to know? Okay, sorry, Cargo, who is it? Just to

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Speaker 1: break that down a little bit, are you saying that

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Speaker 1: who makes sure there are no typos in the dictionary?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess typos as well, but more specifically, specifically,

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Speaker 1: how do we know the exact definition?

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Speaker 2: It definite would change as well from dictionary to dictionary exactly.

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Speaker 1: Y Oxford might have one definition for drink.

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Speaker 4: That's the word we.

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Speaker 3: Keep want to drink because I have my drink bottle

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Speaker 3: with me.

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Speaker 2: Smart, but you know I'm going to stop you guys

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Speaker 2: having a stab in the dark because we have got

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Speaker 2: an expert on with it. Sue Butler AO is a

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Speaker 2: lexicographer at large who joins U right now. This is

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Speaker 2: her specialty, Sue about the dot com dot you Sue,

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Speaker 2: please please.

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Speaker 3: I'll take that as a drum roll for the dictionary

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Speaker 3: goal the scene to enlighten you all. Yes, there is

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Speaker 3: a distinction between proofreading and writing the dictionary. Proof reading

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Speaker 3: has its own hazards. The first edition of the Dictionary

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Speaker 3: ended up with a lot of birds with white underpants

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Speaker 3: which had to be corrected to white underparts, and an

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Speaker 3: elk that was closely related to the mouth, and people

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Speaker 3: always new strange things happened in zoology, but this did

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Speaker 3: seem slightly buzzks. But of course it turned out to

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Speaker 3: be the moose through reading. Proof reading is a special problem.

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Speaker 3: We'll put that to one side and go back to

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Speaker 3: what makes the dictionary correct. And we all regard the

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Speaker 3: dictionary from when we grow up. It's the thing that

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Speaker 3: you look to. It's always right.

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Speaker 4: The dictionary is always right.

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Speaker 3: People goes to solve arguments over more than me, all

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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, But who makes it right. I

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Speaker 3: wish there was a sort of god of dictionaries, and

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Speaker 3: I wish that was me, because I would then have

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Speaker 3: just been able to write the Dictionary as I thought

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Speaker 3: it ought to be done, without having to consult anyone

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Speaker 3: else at all, and it would all happen a lot faster.

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Speaker 3: But in fact, the dictionary is just the collective wisdom

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Speaker 3: of the community about the words they use and what

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Speaker 3: they mean. So what you have to do is go

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Speaker 3: and find evidence for the way in which word is

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Speaker 3: being used, and if it's being used in a new way,

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Speaker 3: then you find evidence for that. So tea, for example,

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Speaker 3: we all know the cup of tea, but how does

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Speaker 3: that relate to you're so tea or I clocked her tea?

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Speaker 3: This is getting pretty wild, as it turns out, the

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Speaker 3: tea in that instance is the capital T.

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Speaker 1: Some of the young kids say that they're spilling the tea,

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Speaker 1: which means that they're talking about gossip. What the point is, So,

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Speaker 1: at what point does that that's a metaphor into the dictionary?

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Speaker 1: Does that ever enter the dictionary? Would you ever say,

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Speaker 1: like tea can be used to spread gossip?

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Speaker 3: Yes, as I said, it's actually the capital letter T,

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Speaker 3: standing for truth. So what's the T is? What's the truth?

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Speaker 1: That's where that comes from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then some clever person rewrote capital letter T

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Speaker 3: as tea, and then some clever person says, Okay, that's

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Speaker 3: like pouring a cup of tea, so fill the thing.

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Speaker 4: Really a huge pain in the ass for you guys

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Speaker 4: to keep up with these whipper snappers exchanging rapid dialogue

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Speaker 4: over the tiktoks and whatnot and bastardizing the use of

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Speaker 4: these words, Well, we would.

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Speaker 3: Prefer to regard it as amusing and entertaining and exhibiting

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Speaker 3: a wild love of language and word place.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm hearing the passion for words. It's just

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Speaker 1: oozing out of you. I'm so interested. What is your

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Speaker 1: favorite word?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, it happens to me that you know the

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Speaker 3: word that I'm working on at the moment. Chat is

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Speaker 3: my favorite word at the moment, as in hey chat,

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Speaker 3: what are we going to do this afternoon? Chat? As

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Speaker 3: in chat room?

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Speaker 1: Which one is the greatest dictionary? We've mentioned a few

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Speaker 1: of them that are going around, of course Quarry Okay, why.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's Well, it's the greatest dictionary for

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Speaker 3: Australians and as you rightly said, there are different editors

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Speaker 3: who are responsible for each English fascinating.

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Speaker 2: So it's been so lovely to meet you. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for all your all your insights. Sue Butler

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Speaker 2: dot com dot You're going to learn more about some

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Speaker 2: of the beautiful work that she does with words.

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Speaker 4: Thanks sir,