1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: If you missed that interview with Michael McCormack, the Deputy 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Prime Minister, earlier this morning, take a listen and. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: There will be there will be. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 3: Here's the assurance two seats for the Northern territory going forward. 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: So you are guaranteeing that we will have those two 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: House of Reps seats. 7 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 4: We will maintain those. 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: Underline it and put a couple of exclamation marks after 9 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: it if you. 10 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Like, excellent, I will be doing that well. Joining me 11 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: on the line right now is Luke Gosling, the Member 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: for Solomon, the Federal Member for Solomon whose seat would 13 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: be impacted if we don't maintain these two seats. 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 4: Good morning to you, Luke, Good morning Katie. 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: Luke. 16 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: We did catch up with the Deputy Prime Minister earlier 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: this morning and as we just replayed, he said that 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: he will guarantee that we keep those two seats. 19 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 4: How does that make you feel? 20 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: Well? I think it's hung over, dude, but it's obviously welcome, Katie. 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: I spoke with him last night. I've also been speaking 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: with Barnaby Joyce, who believes strongly that regional Australian should 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: be properly represented, fairly represented and I've just given a 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: speech that I've put up on my Facebook later in 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: the Parliament because it's really evident down here, Katie, that 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: it's so Sydney centric in particular, and the last three 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Prime Ministers have been from there, that there's not a 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: deep understanding or and it doesn't seem to be too 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: much care about what's happening in regional rural areas of Australia. 30 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: So I really welcomed the Deputy Prime Minister, as you know, 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: has basically listened to the voices of Territorians that we're 32 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: not taking classes and as we as a fair representation, 33 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: and that's obviously welcome news. I've just hope we can 34 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: trust that they will support the legislation when it comes 35 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: to the Parliament. Yeah. 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with you more. 37 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: And look, you and I have spoken about this on 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: so many occasions, even earlier this week, we've discussed the 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: importance of maintaining these two seats and you very rightly 40 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: pointed out, you know, it hasn't always been a labor 41 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: held seat. Obviously there's been the COLP member who's held 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: the seat of Solomon as well. It's just important that 43 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: Territorians are represented, Yeah, who. 44 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: Represent who represents those seats as up the territories. Yeah, 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: But for this Parliament and for this government at this 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: Prime Minister and not to prioritize this issue has really 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: been disappointing, I've got to say. And look, we obviously 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: hoped for more in terms of infrastructure funding for the 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: Northern Territory. I've just got out of the chain for 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: talking about the amount of social housing we need in 51 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: the Northern territories to be great for jobs and great 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: to put a roof over the territorian's head. Now, these 53 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: issues are things that we expect the federal government to 54 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: care about it and I'm just glad that we've been 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: able to pressure and I again I think Barnaby Joyce, 56 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: we've been able to pressure the Leader of the Nationals 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: to say to the Prime Minister, look, I really need 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: to do this. I need to back the Northern Territory here. 59 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: So we welcome it, but what we want to see 60 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: is a clearer I would want to see the Prime 61 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: Minister visit Darwin. We want him to be announcing actual funds, 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: get out there, get the greaters going on the roads. 63 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: Because all we've seemed to hear lately, Paty is a 64 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: lot of announcements we've not much followed through. And when 65 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: it comes to territorians are still stranded overseas, we're fighting 66 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: for them down here in Canberra because they deserve to 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: get home for Christmas. So there's plenty on down here, Kady, 68 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: and this whole thing has been a massive distraction. It 69 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: should never have come to this. When Ron Howard was 70 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: in the same position, he just fixed it straight away 71 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: and made sure that the territory maintained two seats. Prime 72 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: Minister still hasn't said a word about this issue. Yeah. 73 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: Luckily we have been able to put pressure on the 74 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 2: Nationals to make this commitment today and I welcome it. Looke. 75 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Just on that situation with the Aussies that are still 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: stranded overseas, has there been much of an update in 77 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: this space? Obviously we caught up with Stephan Wood about 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: a week or two ago, who was in Singapore trying 79 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: to bring Assie's back. 80 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 4: Has there been much of an update? 81 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: Unfortunately there hasn't given another speech and I'm going to 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: send that to the stranded territories overseas where I'm directed 83 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: directly calling on the Prime Minister to work and we 84 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: have got this national Cabinet to work with other capital 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: cities other than those on the Eastern Seaboard and Perth, 86 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: but to work with the Anti government, to work with Darwin. 87 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: Because quarantine is a federal responsibility. He can get flights, 88 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: he can allow flights to come into Darwin to support 89 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: financially the quarantining of those individuals. We've got plenty of 90 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: quarantine facilities outside of how It Springs that is able 91 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: to help quarantine. So we're calling on the federal government 92 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: to help there. They know their own budget that we've 93 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: just taken a whack throughout esp We didn't get the 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: infrastructure fumes we'd hoped for. We've got territory and still 95 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: stranded overseas and won't get home for Christmas. The territory 96 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: can play a role. There's already flight stopping here in 97 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: Darwin rather in Darwin. I'm Danny Camber at the moment, 98 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: but there's sights stopping in Darwin at the moment to 99 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: refuel but go onto places like Hong Kong. We've got 100 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: people suck in Nepal and in Laos that have got 101 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: the ability to have charter flights coming in to Darwin. 102 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: And use other places of quarantine other than how it springs. 103 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: So we can do that if we've got some support 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: for the federal government, and it is an issue for 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: the federal government quarantine, So they should stop passing the buck. 106 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: They've just announced the one trillion dollar budget and they 107 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: still can't manage to allow out some funds in there 108 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: to get stranded Ozzy's home by Christmas, which I thinks, 109 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: which I think shameful. But we've got to keep working 110 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: with them, Cadie, and that's what we're going down here 111 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: in Canberra. 112 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: Now. 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Look, obviously the Opposition will be delivering their budget reply tonight. 114 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: Now you did touch on the GST, and this is 115 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: something I'd raised yesterday with Matthias Corman, the Federal Finance Minister. 116 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: He reckons that we're not losing in GST. 117 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 4: Take a listen. 118 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 3: Let me be very explicit. The Northern Territory in twenty 119 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: twenty one is expected to receive two point seven billion 120 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 3: dollars in GST payments and that is an increase, an 121 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: increase of two on on twenty one point six million 122 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: dollars compared to twenty nineteen twenty loke, where is. 123 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: The confusion around this GST because I think for a 124 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: lot of people listening this morning, they just don't get why. 125 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: You know why the federal government and you know, the 126 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: federal opposition and also the territory government are on a 127 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: different page when it comes to the GST, Kadie. 128 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: It has been to do with what was expected or 129 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: projected to becoming our way as opposed to what ended 130 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: up being in the budget. Anyway you look at it, 131 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: we've got we've got a reduction on what we were expecting. 132 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: So our main argument here to the federal government is, 133 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: you've got a trillion dollar budget. We expected more assistance 134 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: in terms of infrastructure funding to assist us given that 135 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: we've got less money coming in through the GST, and 136 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: we understand that through COVID there's been less commercial activity, 137 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: there's been less GST taken. It was less than projected, 138 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: but there's just been any no sign at all from 139 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: the federal government that that they're willing to help us 140 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: with the financial situation we find ourselves in. If we're 141 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: going to rebound back from our current situation, we're going 142 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: to need the federal government to assist and they should. 143 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: What can we expect tonight when Anthony Albanesi delivers that 144 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: budget reply and will territory and be satisfied. 145 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: Well, obviously, Katie, I think the Prime Minister will go 146 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: to an election early, so just say the elections about 147 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: a year away. Some of our policy announcements will obviously 148 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: be in the lead up to the election. But I 149 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: think what Elbow will do tonight is set out the 150 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: fact that Labor has a plan for things like social housing, 151 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: like oild care. There was nothing in this budget from 152 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister to help families that are struggling with 153 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: the cost of childcare. Those things that are important to families. 154 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: Elbow will be addressing them tonight. I think that what 155 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: Territorians will see in Albow is someone that actually cares 156 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: about working Australians. And obviously in the lead up to 157 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: the election there'll be more policy announcements. But it's just 158 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: been a bit disappointing that fair representation for the territory 159 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: has taken this long to get there. And I guess 160 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 2: what we really welcome is the fact that the Nationals 161 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: have said to the Prime Minister this is something that 162 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: we need to do. We welcome that in our bipartisan way, 163 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: but we just want to see less announcements without follow through. 164 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 2: So with our federal government announces something, we want to 165 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: see the action on the ground. 166 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: Luke, we are going to have to leave it there. 167 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: Always good to catch up with you. Thanks so much 168 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: for taking the time to speak with us this morning 169 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: from Canberra. 170 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: Thank you, Katie, thank you. 171 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: That is Luke Gosling there, Labour's member for Solomon. You 172 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: are listening to Mix one O four point nine