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Speaker 2: some great feedback we got ye please, So after we

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Speaker 2: new comments that have come through on Apple podcasts. Thank

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Speaker 2: Thanks you absolutely love the podcast. The boys are fantastic,

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Speaker 2: So the corn guy, Thank you, good music, the best

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Speaker 2: Have you ever been to China?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I have?

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's Trevor.

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Speaker 1: I think that's my divorced accountant who has a drinking problem.

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Speaker 3: Have you noticed how out of focus gord he is?

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Speaker 2: That's a recent review on this show.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just going to say this right now to

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing it again.

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Speaker 1: Do it again?

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Speaker 3: You missed your opportunity. Isolate the audio, work it out.

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Speaker 1: He's already tech flex He's come back from his little

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Speaker 1: Anyway, let's talk c Yes, Trevor Long's here, everybody in

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Speaker 1: the flesh, and I honestly thank you for not glassing me.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why we've got class.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm interested. BMW prior to See Yes, started doing

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Speaker 2: It looks like a Tarana.

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Speaker 3: May get a rear court view, that side on view,

442
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 3: and I think a rear court of view it made,

443
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 3: and also size wise, that's a rear we need a

444
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 3: rear quarter. Come on, mate, come on, it's his first day.

445
00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: It's his first day.

446
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: There it is.

447
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 3: It's just a smaller.

448
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,679
Speaker 1: It still doesn't look like yes.

449
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 3: But you don't look like you're in focus in any

450
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 3: of the images either. We can move on anyway like

451
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 3: a tech review guy.

452
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 1: But that's fine.

453
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,400
Speaker 3: I'm still doing it. There's two of these cars, right.

454
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: One of them is pure white with yellow wheels. The

455
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: other one is fancy color changes and it's it's cool again,

456
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 3: but it's thirty two colors this time.

457
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool.

458
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,160
Speaker 3: Now I've got to say, you know, going from red

459
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: to white to whatever, very cool. But then it in there,

460
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 3: let's call it a three minute loop of colors that

461
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 3: we just go through. There was one where it was

462
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 3: white with like an M stripe in a blue and

463
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 3: a red stripe, and I went that that's what I do.

464
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 3: I drive a blue car every day, and then i'd

465
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: go for the weekends. It's going to be you know,

466
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 3: I thought was cool, but still up close, not overly

467
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: impressive as a technology. So I think the color changing stuff,

468
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: forget all that for a minute. You get inside it

469
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 3: and it's all about, you know, a journey, you know,

470
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: you've got to sign up for a freaking avatar, and

471
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 3: you've got to create a cartoon that books. Like you

472
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 3: walk up to the car, it says welcome. Trevor and

473
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:19,920
Speaker 3: I went.

474
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: The first person who said.

475
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 3: In the room, and I'm like, I here my name,

476
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 3: so and on the on the window you're standing outside

477
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 3: the car. On the window, the driver's window is your

478
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: cartoon avatar. It says welcome, your name and everything. So

479
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: it's kind of cool. And I'm thinking, is this you

480
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: know digital glass something. It's just projectors. There's just little

481
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 3: projectors in the anyway. So you sit down, you sit

482
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: in and then they've got this whole virtual experience. Now

483
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 3: what I took from it was that they want metaverse

484
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 3: and all that other bullshit that people are talking about.

485
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: But the real technology here was the head up display.

486
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,120
Speaker 1: What's the biggest See that.

487
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: Biggest head up display I think today would probably be

488
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 3: in Murk, you know, have they have a reasonable size one.

489
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 3: If you put it in front of it's like a

490
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 3: small tablet. Let's say on the screen, this is full

491
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: width and half height, because you're never really looking over

492
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 3: half height.

493
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 2: As in over on the passenger side.

494
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 3: The whole width of the dashboard is hud and half

495
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: the height is potentially hard and it's look they really

496
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 3: I think they stuffed up badly because they talked about

497
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: things like social media. No one wants to hear about

498
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 3: that it's going to ruin the concept, but that there's

499
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: no screens at all in this car, No dash screen,

500
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 3: no infertainment screen. It's all meant to be on the window.

501
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 2: Right.

502
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: They said to me, this now broad This technology will

503
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: be in the new class twenty twenty five BMW's I

504
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: don't imagine it will be as intense as this, but

505
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 3: I totally believe that they'll. They'll do the full projection.

506
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 3: And the thing that I think was most impressive was

507
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: not just your speed looks better because it's bigger, and

508
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 3: it's not a tiny little fucking display that you can't

509
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: quite see if you're off angle. It's just things like navigation.

510
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: You get that all me to reality navigation, which was

511
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: saying you, well, this is like drawn on the road.

512
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 3: Imagine you're driving along the freeway and the road it

513
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 3: looks normal through the vision, but then suddenly the road

514
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 3: becomes a blue or a yellow line which shows you

515
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 3: which exit to take, as if it's on the road

516
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: in front of you. It does look cool, and when

517
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: you can use the whole screen, it looks so much

518
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: better for the driver.

519
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: I reckon it'll freak people out. I don't think it's

520
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: for everyone.

521
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 3: I don't think it is. But then, okay, think about Warnings.

522
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,719
Speaker 3: The other demo that they did before they went into

523
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: the metaverse and I tuned out and started to feel sick,

524
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 3: was warnings. So you've got some idiot cyclist coming down

525
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: the right hand side from a side street. It's coming

526
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: into your lane. You might have senses on a car

527
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: now that beep a bit or something, right, this thing

528
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: kind of the whole bottom of the windscreen flashes red,

529
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: you know, collision alerts, and the cyclist is highlighted by

530
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: a red square, and it follows them in augmented reality

531
00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 3: as well, being warned like I prefer a target, but

532
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 3: that will get the going.

533
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: But just looking for channel email again, I'm going to

534
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: send straight to it, throwing him under the that stuff.

535
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: That stuff's cool.

536
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you can nail it, yeah, exactly, that's

537
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: the hard bit. And I think that you mentioned there

538
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 2: about the lanes that tech. They've started rolling that out now.

539
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: We recently drove the EQSSUV that will actually tell you

540
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: which lane you're in on the freeway, which then helps

541
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: you dictate where the EXOD is if you then add

542
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: this in as well, where you actually have it overlaid

543
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: on the screen in front of you, it is useful information.

544
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 2: My concern though, and I'm keen to get your both

545
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 2: of your views on this. Tesla was pushing hard for

546
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: full self driving and autonomy and that sort of stuff.

547
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: We've seen countless videos on the Internet of it not working,

548
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: and previously they were only manually allowing people that they

549
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: knew would be favorable. They let other people in and

550
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: then all the negative stuff started coming out. Over Christmas

551
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: they rolled out a free enhanced auto pilot thing for owners.

552
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: I tested it. It was the shittest thing I've ever

553
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: tested to change lanes like I was at Albert Park,

554
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 2: Like Grand Prix was crazy. Do you think that the

555
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 2: glosses wearing off that we're seeing manufacturers kind of stepping

556
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: back a little from that hands off driving in and

557
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: around the city. I think maybe highways that all work

558
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: in the future, But do you reckon there will be

559
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 2: a future where you can get into a car and

560
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: it will confidently drive around a school zone and not

561
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: run into something that shouldn't run into.

562
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: The first CSO went to was twenty twelve, and I

563
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: remember going to Lexus and all these There was a

564
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: lot more car companies there back then, but there was

565
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: a lot of talk of autonomy, and I remember I

566
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: think it was a guy a Lexis was saying, we're

567
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: still fifteen years away, you know, trying to put a

568
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: damper on it. I don't remember anyone talking about it

569
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 3: this year. Now there's a lot of companies Slidar and

570
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: all that stuff on the floor trying to sell it.

571
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: But it's not like Mercedes wor BMW from you know what.

572
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 3: I can remember just you know, sitting in cars and

573
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: looking at stuff. We're really talking about autonomy. They're talking

574
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: more about the experience, Yes, exactly, we're talking more about

575
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 3: the experience. I mean the best example of that is Ford.

576
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: By twenty twenty one will be selling the mass productiononymous vehicles.

577
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: I wrote in Detroit it was sick, but it.

578
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: Never happened, and it only worked in that one little Yeah, exactly.

579
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: I don't know what Gord are you are fair? You

580
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 3: have thought? Do you think it's coming.

581
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: I think we are a long way off from this,

582
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: a long way. I think it's also a lot to

583
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: do with social kind of change as well. I think

584
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: this is going to take a lot of convincing to people.

585
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: The augmented reality stuff. I just think it's going a

586
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: bit too overboard. I get some of it in my

587
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: car a little bit, and I just get it turned off.

588
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: My question is when does the driver's feel of the

589
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: car going to change? Because that will happen, and that's

590
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: going to happen over time, because right now, a lot

591
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: of it's intuition, do you know what I mean? And

592
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff is kind of taking over.

593
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 3: I think that and this is the bubble we live in,

594
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 3: you way more than us. But you don't realize how

595
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 3: much of that already exists in a car. You know,

596
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: you get people buy a car today, they think adaptive

597
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: cruise controls amazing to a lot of people. Right The

598
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 3: fact that your car will slow when it approaches other

599
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: cars on.

600
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: A freeway, that shit's still amazing to people. Right.

601
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: So we are so far off the reality of people

602
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: finding a good lane keepersystant you know, you think about

603
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 3: you buy a cheap car with lankkeep assists. It's bumper,

604
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: it's bumper Bowler.

605
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: And you end up switching it off, and you switch

606
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: it off because you think it's crap, So then you assume.

607
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: And that's the mentality problem that Tesla and everyone's god is.

608
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: They think it's going to be horrible, autonomous and just

609
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: not a great feeling. But I think if you look

610
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: at I think it's OUDI they're sell in Europe, they

611
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: sell you know, it might be a eight S eight

612
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 3: or something like that has a freeway or auto barn

613
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 3: or autonomous driving, which they back, so they but sign

614
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: off on it.

615
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 2: Get this. So I went to Germany to test that out.

616
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: I was at the passenger seat of this car. They

617
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: called it traffic jam Assist, and it was designed to

618
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: work only up to sixty but it was hands off,

619
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: eyes off, level three and they were going to release

620
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: it with a eight, and all of a sudden they

621
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: stopped it. Oh really wouldn't because they had that issue

622
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: where they had to back it and they were originally

623
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: going to. And then there was a whole bunch of

624
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: calamity with lawyers.

625
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 3: We all know the lawyers can be problematic.

626
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: They've no children. Do we bring up your employers or.

627
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: They're not my employment. I'm self employed.

628
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 1: Oh okay, wow, you're associates.

629
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that I don't know. I just

630
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: don't love the eye. And I also I don't consent

631
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 2: to being on the road when some dickhead and his

632
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: Tesla has got full self driving.

633
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: In America, it's my biggest fear because you're passing someone

634
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: on the road. Because we pretty much always have a

635
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: car when we're in America, especially for seous we're there

636
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 3: for twelve thirty days. We're driving around and be escalade

637
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: or something, right, and you drive past tesla and I

638
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: always look in are they one hand on, one finger on?

639
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: And what are you looking for?

640
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: Thelbums? You want more than a finger? Right?

641
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: Well, there was that a bit of a three finger man.

642
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 3: Full fist if you like wow, I mean you've got

643
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: to keep the weight on the steering wheel. If you

644
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: don't keep the weight on the steering wheel, if.

645
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: We lose Trevor in this building, we just have to

646
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: follow the yellow drop road. That's all we need to do.

647
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: I think that the challenge is see here's what I

648
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: want to see. One of my favorite cars I ever

649
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: owned was a BMW three zero before I had a

650
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: family and kids and couldn't afford it. Let alone could

651
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 3: fit them right. I loved it for its drive, it's

652
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: technology and everything, but I want a BMW that has

653
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: things like the augmented navigation once if you're tortured, because

654
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: this is the big problem I handover of a new car.

655
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: How long are they spending with people. It's like you

656
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: need the team to take you on a drive for

657
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: an hour before you get it. Given the key warnings,

658
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 3: I think anything safety is awesome and I think that

659
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: the good companies, and I'm suggesting Tesla's not one of them,

660
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: ben W, Mercedes, Audi, they're the companies that I look

661
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: to and go. Man, their warnings are amazing, and I

662
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 3: want that. I want more warnings. I want more help

663
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: as a driver because we all stumble at times, get

664
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: distracted or whatever it is. So if it's a windscreen

665
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: going red, you know, literally flashing at me, that makes

666
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: me throttle off, or it does it automatically, if it's

667
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: highlighting something bad, even if it's just just subtly because

668
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: it's a pedestrian on the side of the road, things

669
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: like that, Oh just say, you know, we think that

670
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: pedestrian is going to walk out.

671
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: That's correctly right.

672
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Speaker 1: I'd love to know if there's ever been a study

673
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: of like the past ten years with the tech that's

674
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: now in cars, because arguably we're driving the safest cars

675
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: we've ever driven. I wonder if there is the road

676
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: told to see.

677
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: The problem number of cars, number of people. It's really

678
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: hard to get that data. But I think where I

679
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: have admiration is someone like Volva. You know, their commitment

680
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: to essentially I can't remember the number of the day,

681
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 3: but it's no deaths in a new Volvo from let's

682
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: say twenty twenty six or something like that. They they

683
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: believe their cars are going to be not just safe

684
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: enough because Volvos have always been a level of safe, right,

685
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: but smart enough to help stop things from happening that

686
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: are happening. That's awesome. Let's talk about that more than

687
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: some bloke with cameras on a car creating autonomy. I

688
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: just think that's the story.

689
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. And that's a thing with

690
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: Tesla now they've moved away from any other sensus aside

691
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: from camera, and that is the biggest rookie era because

692
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: you can never have too many senses in my opinion,

693
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: And if you had a radar on a car, why

694
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: would you not use that as redundancy that if a

695
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: camera detects like my car phantom breaks, if it detects

696
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: an overpass that it slams the brakes on for and

697
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: the radar says, hey, there's actually nothing there. You can

698
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: use those systems to learn.

699
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: But now there, father, isn't there an ex ninety or

700
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: something that has like light on the top of the windscreen,

701
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: radar in the front, and then cameras and it's like, yeah, cool,

702
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: give me everything and you make a judgment on what

703
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 3: you're seeing because that's what I.

704
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: But just cameras really so stupid. The amount of times

705
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: we're driving in winter where you'll get a camera fog

706
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: up and warnings about this camera isn't working anymore. I

707
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: mean it's it just shows you that it's still not

708
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: there yet.

709
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: How old was the article? Was it only recently you

710
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: published an article about your Why Yeah, we mentioned we're

711
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: gonna we're.

712
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: Gonna chat about this in our next episode, But my god,

713
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: they went to town on me. And I've just never

714
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: buy one. No, And this is why I kind of

715
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: want to sell one, because I'm just sick of the

716
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: Karens and all the other so it has to have

717
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: to come.

718
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: In and nominally Jason, but okay, go on, but yeah,

719
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: those people.

720
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: In my case it's Barry.

721
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: Daniel.

722
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Daniel, Dan, you'll drop off.

723
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: Okay, See Daniel, you know you're in a bit of

724
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: strife when even Trevor saying, go fuck yourself, Daniel.

725
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: That's what I wrote down. I didn't want you to

726
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: say it, Jesus.

727
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: Aside from BMW other interesting car stuff at c Yes,

728
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: you mentioned there weren't as many car brands there is.

729
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: There's still an overtone with some of the other companies,

730
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: Like we're talking newer versions of Apple Car Play, Android

731
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: Order as well rolling out. Do you see periphery stuff increasing.

732
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: Heaps of periphery stuff. Google was big talking about in

733
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 3: the next version of Andrew Orto. I didn't go deep

734
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: into it because iteration of that shit happens every six months.

735
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: It's hard to keep track of. But Google has a

736
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: big presence there, kind of overarching the show, trying to

737
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: make sure, like Amazon, they're there because everything can have Amazon.

738
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: They want it to be seen that way what used

739
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: to be. Have you been to see this haven't you

740
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: No never Okay, used to be what was called the

741
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: North Wall.

742
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: Which Tom which is very similar.

743
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: But like I remember there being already being w C

744
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 3: because everyone is there. Now you get these kind of

745
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: overarching brands like Ram was there because they had this,

746
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: they had their electric Weirdly, it showed up on the

747
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: third day of the show. The first two days of

748
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: the show empty, so I think they announced it in

749
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: the middle of the show and brought it there. It

750
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: was so weird that it.

751
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Wasn't basically there. Yep.

752
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: It literally was wheeled in one night in the middle

753
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: of its four day show. The fourth day is half like

754
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: a half day. They wielded in on the night.

755
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: Story That sounds like me handing in an assignment. I'm

756
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: just going to slip this in the teachers and no

757
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: one notices was the same.

758
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: They had some freaky cool Persia might have been Persia

759
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 3: had this freaky cool looking card. They brought it in

760
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: the middle of the show. But you know a lot

761
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: of concepts, something called light speed or something that's an

762
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 3: electric solar thing. But the problem is, because you have

763
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 3: this lack of big brand and big stalls, big big exhibits,

764
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: you end up with a lot of stuff that's affiliated

765
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: with cars, like light, our senses and you can nav

766
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 3: and all this kind of stuff that isn't really easy

767
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: to You can't just walk by and go what is this?

768
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: You've got to spend two hours. I'm like, man, I've

769
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: got things to do with We're not going to I'm

770
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: going to talk to gaudio. If I can't disseminate it

771
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: in thirty seconds, he's never going to get it right. Facts,

772
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: that's true. So I think that's a challenge for it.

773
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 3: But I actually think it's that's a pandemic thing. I

774
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: think that last year Mercedes was going to be there

775
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 3: and they literally abandoned like a week out. Their floor

776
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: space was just empty, which was twenty five thirty percent

777
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: or so. Last year was very weird. LG was the same,

778
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: Like you're talking the two biggest companies world, Elgie and Samsung.

779
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 3: Last year Sampsung went all out. LG they you know

780
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 3: that kind a basketball court style would had that and

781
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: that was it. QR codes to scan fucking.

782
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: Really, that's the marketing chip, just chucking some vapor on

783
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: the floor and they were going, what are we going

784
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: to do?

785
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: Anyway? So this year had Mercedes, you had BMW, but

786
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: there was there was a few American brands, vin Fast,

787
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: that a Vietnamese mob what's the Faraday? Weren't there in

788
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 3: the big way. The car was there on a stand,

789
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: but it wasn't there in a big way. You know.

790
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: There was no overarching kind of theme or talk or

791
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: anything like that which there has been before. If there

792
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: was a theme, it was electric because there was the

793
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: RAM and there was a deep plug in hybrid.

794
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: I think yeah, they launched the Avenger or whatever.

795
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: And then Avenger. Yeah, Avenger, it's an X Men movie,

796
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: Captain America. Was there a driver? Yeah, I've never seen

797
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: the movies, so I wouldn't.

798
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: It's a good gear from Trevor. Should put that in

799
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: the promo.

800
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: But you know what with I've been to Seema a

801
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: few times. I love Seema. I think Seema is.

802
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: Just sorry even last what's this semens? What's what this

803
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: has to go?

804
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 3: There? Always?

805
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: No, I'm serious, I've got no idea.

806
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: Just imagine he didn't.

807
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the Special Equipment Manufacturers Association. It's basically so.

808
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: There's people listening to this that they don't know about

809
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: your bloody festivals that you go to.

810
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 3: Okay, can we just get I mean, what's the process

811
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: on Instagram? Is that how they follow your Instagram? Can

812
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 3: look seriously send us a dm is is a DMS open.

813
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: On sladm's trails the drivers show.

814
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 3: Everyone knows what SEMA is chimp.

815
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's in Vegas. Wow, So another huge setup.

816
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 2: And this was the same thing last year. I was

817
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: watching SEEMA on Instagram. A lot of people didn't want

818
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: to attend because they imposed mask and vaccine mandates and

819
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: a lot of the Americans who follow this type.

820
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: Of stuff, that is your non mask.

821
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that is like, that's basically tru That's a trumpally,

822
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: So over those.

823
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: Fucking cars, it's a Trump rally.

824
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: But this was back in form last year. Sorry, the

825
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: year before that, yeah, twenty twenty two, this was back

826
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: in form, So I'm curious and CS is back on

827
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: the way up now.

828
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: And it was so if they normally have one hundred

829
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 3: and sixty thousand people at c it was one hundred

830
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: and ten thousand this year. Yep, that was sixty last year.

831
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah right, because again last year had had to be

832
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: double vacks. She had to be proved negative. It was

833
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: horrible plus year getting into an out of America. We

834
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: had to get tests as well. It was nightmares. So

835
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: this year was easy.

836
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: Is all this stuff back to normal? You think, like

837
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: the tech world in terms of all the hold ups

838
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: and stuff we've had. Yeah, all these guys came out

839
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: with concepts everything.

840
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: I feel like from July last year, we were back

841
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 3: to normal, Like that's when my travel went back to normal.

842
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 3: Launches went back to normal, Apple went back to normal. Samsung.

843
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 3: Samsung actually hasn't had a physical tech event. They've only

844
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: had kind of big elaborate briefings, whereas I don't know

845
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 3: when you're putting this out, but next week in San

846
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: Francisco having a proper venue event, so there'll be thousands

847
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 3: of people again. So I feel like they're back to normal.

848
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: CS just needs it, just needs next year. So twenty

849
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 3: twenty four CS I think will be epic. I think

850
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: it'll be solid. I think I think your Audi's and

851
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: your other brands that weren't there this year will go. Actually,

852
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: BMW Mercedes did really well this year because.

853
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: They had some show it looked sick because they got

854
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: attentions no longer happening. So it's events like SEEMA and

855
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 2: CES where they can do crazy shit at SEEMA and

856
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: then CS is all about tech and the future exactly

857
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: because every car has tech.

858
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: Right, That's the how I fell into this driving a

859
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: car thing because every because car companies like, can you

860
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 3: talk about this infertainment? I'm like whatever, And so every

861
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: car has tech, whether it's the safety tech or the

862
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: driver tech or whatever. And that's why I see this

863
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 3: is a great place to be because they get to

864
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 3: expose themselves like you and you would see this the

865
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: kind of people that get invited to things. You're like,

866
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 3: who's this fucking bloke and he's an Instagram influencer. It's me,

867
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 3: yeah exactly, And people are.

868
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: Like there, I am there, I am rocket up and

869
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: everyone's like, yeah, that guy.

870
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 3: You know what Paul does just saying because he does

871
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: what I do when they ring up? And so do

872
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: you want to come to wherever for you thing? I say,

873
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: can you make sure I'm in the not in the

874
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: lifestyle cycle?

875
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: What does that even mean?

876
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: They have different when they have a car launch. They

877
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: do normally six days, two days for a bunch of

878
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: influences and ship and then two days for edge car

879
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: people like me, and then two days for actual car people.

880
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: Like Paul, they'll invite you to the first two days

881
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: meet it, the second two days he.

882
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: Doesn't even go to the first two days.

883
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: I didn't get invited for.

884
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: I'm just letting you know, thanks for getting close. You're

885
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: getting close. So I think that I think that the

886
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: benefit of CS for brands is the exposure outside of motory. Yeah,

887
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 3: I didn't mate. I'd never heard of the Mercedes Ben's

888
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: eqxx before, and I'm like, oh shit, this thing. This

889
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 3: was announced actually last CS, but they didn't have it there, right,

890
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 3: it was just a because they didn't ever stand it

891
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: was just announced and so to bring that thing in

892
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 3: and made it was a beautiful stand, you know, mirrors

893
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: and fucking fancy ship. It looked cool. It was it

894
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: was your Instagram for the day because it looked amazing

895
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: to get pictures there. So that's what you want, is

896
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 3: you want people equ x X is what we're looking

897
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: for some help on the Google. The people were two

898
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: x's well English, it is no, It's like it looked

899
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: unbelievable on the show. For people were looking at that thing.

900
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: This is sick. And they've got two of them right,

901
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: one of them is a static show car.

902
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: Yep.

903
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: And the other one is drivable.

904
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: They said a world record in the drivable one. I

905
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: actually didn't notice this year as well. They had a

906
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: lot of your supercar blondie style influences. My fraind Yeah,

907
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 2: she'd been going to a few of those previously, but

908
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: now it was an explosion of influences that they were

909
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: really trying to hype up the year.

910
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 3: Well, and I'll tell you right now, they they wanted more.

911
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 3: So what they had planned was there's a private racetrack

912
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: at a I don't know resort or something about an

913
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 3: hour out of town, and they had planned to do

914
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: a drive day for two days before the show opened,

915
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: but they couldn't get battery. The battery was stuck in

916
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: customs or something, so it was all canceled. It was

917
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: on the Wednesday of the show. I was Mitch driving

918
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: like six I was meant to drive the fucking thing

919
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: at six am, and they rang the night before game.

920
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: We just didn't get clearance on the battery. So in

921
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: the end they because there's two of them, one of

922
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: them on the show floor, the other one they just

923
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: drove from a hotel across the road. They took you

924
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: on a run around the run around the strip. And

925
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you.

926
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: Have you seen it not in person, but it looks

927
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: bloody amazing pictures. A look at the butt of it,

928
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: though it's all ero. That's an aston Martin though EVC Yeah,

929
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: got that sort of wow.

930
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 3: That is the most insulting thing you could ever say

931
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: to a Mercedes is.

932
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 4: Good you nerd.

933
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: As soon as the bloody phone goes.

934
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: All I've got another radio interview, so we're going to

935
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: have to another.

936
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: Get inside that and the infotainment, because you think a

937
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: concept car is going to be just ship right, this

938
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: thing has this, you know, Mercedes has that one screen,

939
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: one screen, separate screen. This is one legit screen and

940
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 3: as you swipe it the whole thing it's made, it's

941
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: more beautiful and an operating system than Apple and Apple

942
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: do good.

943
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: Though I do wonder because the idea of it sounds great,

944
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: and when I actually tested the hyperscreen in that EQ

945
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: S s U V, it can be laggy. And I

946
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: wonder whether these concept cars they just throw like a process, large,

947
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: process larger, and then the production car comes out like

948
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: the Ford Ranger. That infotainment system is so laggy. If

949
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: you catch napping and they just don't have enough grunt.

950
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: I've never seen a screen like it was the most

951
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 3: I said to the bloke, I'm sorry you're going to

952
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: talk about this car is beautiful and everything, but that

953
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 3: screen is fucking amazing.

954
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks cool.

955
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: This thing is measuring the wind. They measure the wind

956
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: impact into the front of the car so that they.

957
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: Can from you the wind from It's just like it

958
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: doesn't real I have a four and twenty, I reckon

959
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: I can get that up to one hundred, one hundred.

960
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: And ten real time coalfisions of drag calculated. When you

961
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: put the diffuser out, it shows up and the changes man.

962
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: Over a fucking screen.

963
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, if there wasn't a drive there or a rub

964
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: one out, mate, it was unbelievable.

965
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: It probably has a button for that. Tiler'll just jerke

966
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: you off.

967
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: Can you explain to listeners One of the criticisms we

968
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: often get when we go to a car launch overseas

969
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: is that manufacturers are in our pockets and I'm putting

970
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: a video together at the moment to explain how the

971
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: industry works and how we earn money and all that

972
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: sort of stuff.

973
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: Fuck let me, Yeah, this is going to be an

974
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: expose a definate right it is.

975
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: The problem is people.

976
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: Excerning millions and he's going to put out a fucking

977
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: video about that.

978
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: The problem is people are people who aren't in the

979
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: industry don't understand that when events like this go on,

980
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: they want all of the media to come there to

981
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: report on this and instead of Samsung going to five

982
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: hundred countries around the world with the same stuff, it

983
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: just wouldn't work. So is it the same in the

984
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: tech industry where this sort of event is funded by

985
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: a brand and then you're expected to.

986
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: So to be clear, see US is very different from

987
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: I got invited to see us by Intel in twenty twelve,

988
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: this thing's amazing, And then in October of twenty twenty twelve,

989
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 3: for the next year, I'm thinking, who's invited me?

990
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: Not inviotyed me.

991
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 3: I was really doing not much back then, so I

992
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: was like kind of coming up and I'm like, I

993
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: want to go. I gotta go. So I just rang

994
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: a couple of companies and said, can you sponsor me

995
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 3: and just ask for a couple of grand to pay

996
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: for my air fits And ever since then I've just

997
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 3: done that. So even now I take four people because

998
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: I just I don't want to be beholden. When I

999
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: say beholden, I don't mean what we say. I don't

1000
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: give No one ever tells me what to say. I

1001
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: don't want to have to go to a fucking dinner.

1002
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: I don't want so see percent I get like sponsors

1003
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: like so this year Samsung, LG, High Sense, TCL, BMW

1004
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 3: all come in. They pay a bit of money funds

1005
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: all my airfare is accommodation and everything.

1006
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: So we're good.

1007
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: There is a light thing where you have to obviously

1008
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: cover their gear, right.

1009
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 3: What I the clear documentation is you're what you're paying

1010
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: for is me. We will definitely cover your event. We

1011
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: will definitely attend your booth. We will definitely give you

1012
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: editorial coverage full stop. Doesn't say it's going to be

1013
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: positive and negative. It's just we're gonna cover you.

1014
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Yeah, that's it.

1015
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: Three things. That's it. Nothing else. If you've got a

1016
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: dinner on it works beautiful. Next week Samsung's holding it.

1017
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: A sipulated dinner.

1018
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: No, I don't want to go to dinners. I fucking

1019
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: hate going to gennis It's the worst thing in the

1020
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 3: world because I've got to sit with people I have

1021
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: who don't like me most of the time, and I

1022
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: probably don't like them as well. So I hate seven

1023
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: course three people we talked about before we start a recording.

1024
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to sit with them at dinner.

1025
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: Now, if you listen to our bonus episode, we're going

1026
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: to go through all those names.

1027
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: And I'd be happy to help you know what you're

1028
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: talking about. But so because I've been beaten up on

1029
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: Media watch about it too. In fact, last August I

1030
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 3: got on Meetia Watch Good Times, Happy Days, Paul Barry

1031
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: got you on Media or whatever?

1032
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: The fucking host, Yes, the one who talks like he's

1033
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: from the nineteen tieties, and Trevor Long was called rubbing

1034
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: one out and the Mercedes double it.

1035
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: I'm in New York City, I'm on the Today Show

1036
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: Sky and he's a bunch of places and on my

1037
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: website everwhere talking about a new folding phone. Right here

1038
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 3: it is, and they go, you didn't disclose that Samsung

1039
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: sent you there, And I just write, who the fuck

1040
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: did you think sent me here?

1041
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly like am I going to dip into my

1042
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: own pod to New York? That's like, are you fucking

1043
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: kidding me?

1044
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: Honestly, that's what people would think though.

1045
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: But that's the problem. Idiots. They're like, they assume that

1046
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: that's how it works. And it's like, we could not

1047
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: employ thirty people full time if you.

1048
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: Were then paying for trips around the.

1049
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: World and these things for us. A car launch overseas,

1050
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: we might be only there for a day. You're expected

1051
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: to land and drive a car immediately. If I'm sitting

1052
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: in economy with my knees around my ears, I'm not

1053
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: going to be able to sit there and do anything.

1054
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: So and when people always go on about business class,

1055
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, it's literally in the name business class.

1056
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm going full business and it allows me to drive

1057
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: the car and get straight back home. I don't want

1058
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: to spend a.

1059
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: Minute objective most see and again, I bet you this

1060
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: is the same in murdering. There's a bunch of tech

1061
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 3: journals who will extend their stay. They'll stay for extra

1062
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: nights if they're in New York. I've got a family,

1063
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: I've got three kids. My wife hates that I have

1064
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: this job. She will kill me if she found out

1065
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 3: I was fucking lazing around somewhere. Right, it's I leave

1066
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: on Sunday. I get back on Friday morning because my

1067
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: kid plays baseball on Saturday. If I'm not there, I

1068
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: am divorced. So I could stay in San Francisco for

1069
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: another week. Sweet and no dramas. But I'm in and

1070
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: out as quick as I can. And where it's business class,

1071
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: I take business class sometime because I like to bring

1072
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: a camera with me to shoot some shit. Sometimes I

1073
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: compromise and trying to fly premium. We fly economy whenever

1074
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: I'm paying because I'm not an idiot. I'm saving money

1075
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: wherever I can, but only for where it's an individual company, Apple, Samsung, whoever.

1076
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: If they've got an event, I ain't paying for myself

1077
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: to get there.

1078
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's crazy to the peace would assume that

1079
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: you love the brand so much that you would do that.

1080
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,959
Speaker 2: It actually blows.

1081
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: Me away, you know. Then the obvious other thing, and

1082
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: you kind of alluded to it in a joking, I think,

1083
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: but you know, what do you pay to say about them? Look,

1084
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: I'm not a negative guy. I don't do a lot

1085
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 3: of negative gear. Right, I'm not gonna get on the

1086
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 3: Today's I say this is a ship phone because you

1087
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: know what, every car, every phone has an audience, even

1088
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: a one hundred and ninety dollars smartphone, while we everyone

1089
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: in this room would think it is shit. Ye for

1090
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: a mum, single mum battling to get her seven year

1091
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: seven kid a phone that's the fucking perfect phone, and.

1092
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: They want to feel good about it, It's right, you know.

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00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: They want to know what its features are and what

1094
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: it's going to do, and maybe a little bit of

1095
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 3: what it can't, you know, And that's as simple as that.

1096
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: A car review and a phone review very similar in

1097
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: the sense that every car is incremently better than the

1098
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: than the last. And that's what it's all about today.

1099
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: And it's I think it's the same story in tech

1100
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: genuinely today there is not a car out there that

1101
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: I would say this is not It's exactly right.

1102
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: We're not going back to the eighties here. You know

1103
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: where some cars were shipped. There's some cars were dangerous, right. Phones.

1104
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 3: You know, Samsung had some phones that exploded. They weren't

1105
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 3: actually bad phones, they just had a real fuck up

1106
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: with the technology, and you know what, they fixed it,

1107
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 3: They recall it, and they've come back super strong. Why

1108
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: would I bag Samsung because they had burning phones six

1109
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 3: years ago that hasn't happened, since it's an unbelievable story.

1110
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: You know, people use that analogy to talk about Tesla

1111
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 3: because Tesla don't fly people everywhere. Well they do, they

1112
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: have taken some people around, but you know, well.

1113
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: They also people don't know this, but Tesla sack their

1114
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: PR team globally except in Australia. They still retain people

1115
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 2: who do PR on the side. They still run a

1116
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: press fleet, which we don't pay for. There was no

1117
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: way I would pay to review their cars ever, and

1118
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: that press fleet comes with free charging. Like I think

1119
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: that people, and it's especially those Tesla people who think

1120
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: were on the take from big media. I'm like, fucking

1121
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: not a chance. It's it is literally your review.

1122
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: But again, and we're digging a different rabbit hole. But

1123
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think I've ever had a Tesla

1124
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: for more than three days, yep, you know, because that's

1125
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: the way they roll. I'm like, you know, it'd be

1126
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 3: a whole lot better for me if I could have

1127
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: a car for a week or two or do a

1128
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: long term.

1129
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: Those problem is you'd end up with a negative ish

1130
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: story like I have because.

1131
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: You because you'd actually just cover the ship, you know,

1132
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: so look, I don't care about it anymore. I don't

1133
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: kill people say it's the same, mate, it's the same.

1134
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: When I'll do a segment on the Today Show where

1135
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm talking about mobile phone deals, I'll tell here's a

1136
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: couple other than he's coging with this, and someone will

1137
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 3: go on to it and go, fucking add for Cogan?

1138
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: Is it?

1139
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, if it is, who's pain?

1140
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: Like where's my cash? Like?

1141
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: What are you talking about?

1142
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: Like? Where is my cash in this situation?

1143
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 3: There's no benefit.

1144
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: Sorry about that comment.

1145
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: I knew it was, but so many fake accounts.

1146
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: Between me and your Barry, I swear it wasn't me.

1147
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: I'm dead set.

1148
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 3: Hey, Barry, if you're stuck with the show, I'm sending

1149
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 3: you merch mats just because it was funny.

1150
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: It's funny, it was funny.

1151
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 3: You're a good man. Carve them up, mate, calm or

1152
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 3: who's paying? It's paying to listen to this. I say

1153
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: that to people all the time about whether it's my

1154
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: website of podcasts. I don't.

1155
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: I try.

1156
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: I make a spelling mistake, which I make a lot of.

1157
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: They're right to me. I'll go whatever.

1158
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: I'll send you a refund.

1159
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll send you a full fucking refund, buy a

1160
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: PayPal of nothing.

1161
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: See in case you've just joined. As we're talking Trevor's

1162
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: Zingers on The Driver's Show, two things before you go,

1163
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: what is what's the most impressive tech that you reckon

1164
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: is coming out there? Doesn't correlate it or.

1165
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 3: Not outside of things we talked about because they were

1166
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 3: very very cool, the benw thing specifically, Yeah, I did

1167
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: see some glasses from TCL which look just like they

1168
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 3: actually look like your glasses.

1169
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: There they are the TCL glasses.

1170
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not, and they project in front of your vision.

1171
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: Now that's all cool, like think of Google glass from

1172
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 3: twenty twelve. But they actually demonstrate that there's a woman's

1173
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 3: that's not me wearing them, but it's a different set.

1174
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: A few images down there's actually strolls just right, but

1175
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: it's not those ones. These are different ones.

1176
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: A guy, Yeah, oh my god, put on the glasses

1177
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: that you were in.

1178
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: Put them on. Put them on?

1179
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 3: Why anyway? Hello welcome? No, so this woman so lovely

1180
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: lady from TCL speaking Mandarin or Cantons, I don't know,

1181
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: but I tapped aside went into this menu that said

1182
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: translation tapped it loud, crowded into a hall of exhibitors,

1183
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: and this woman's speaking to me and Mandarin and it's

1184
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: fucking appearing in English in front of me with a

1185
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: three second delay. I'm telling you it was.

1186
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1187
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 3: Mind blowing. So what you those ones there are, they're

1188
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 3: like you put them on and it's like one hundred

1189
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 3: inch screen in front of you. So it's like a

1190
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 3: good way to watch Netflix if you're lying in bed,

1191
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 3: you just get one hundred inch.

1192
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 2: So this had some sort of phone connectivity.

1193
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: This was this was it was built in or built in.

1194
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: That's cool, very very cool.

1195
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: So that that shit's cool. And I think that you'll

1196
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 3: see a lot more foldable phones issue. I think Google

1197
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: will come out with a fireable phone.

1198
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: Do you think about foldable phones? Because I get the thing,

1199
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: but I just don't. I don't know what purpose like.

1200
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: And I also think this is the dumbest shit I've

1201
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 2: ever seen.

1202
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 3: Camera barba ship Oh yeah, apple thumber bumps are annoying

1203
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: and yeah, foling phone. So I don't like the open

1204
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 3: up ones that open up like a book. They're too

1205
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 3: big and they're just huge in your pocket. I like

1206
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: the flip if I could flip this shut and put

1207
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 3: it in my pocket right now.

1208
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: I think the flip's a great idea. Yeah, I mean

1209
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: it's good that they've made a comeback screen protection.

1210
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: Like it's in your pocket, and it's particular the thickness

1211
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: of a typical iPhone that you then follow.

1212
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 3: The current the current Samsung flip is close to double

1213
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: but it doesn't feel like that in your pocket. Plus

1214
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 3: you can throw it in your bag with less concern

1215
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 3: because your screen. You're not worried about your screen anymore.

1216
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 2: So as good as the long ways are, they still scratch.

1217
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: If I have set of keys in there, it's still

1218
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 2: scratch me.

1219
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 3: You're mad not having a screen protector on that thing.

1220
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 2: This is the thing my last phone.

1221
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: Also, I was with you when you took that case off.

1222
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 2: I had all moves of stuff on it, and I realized,

1223
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm paying twenty bucks a month if I drop it all.

1224
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: Just fuck. I'm not talking about how.

1225
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 2: Much you pay, but this is the thing, this is.

1226
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: How loaded he is, but so much fucking money. You're

1227
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 3: still paying two hundred dollars a month for your mobile

1228
00:52:59,120 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 3: phone fucking plan.

1229
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: Oh no, I stopped that. That was a scam because.

1230
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: They it was a solid argument and had.

1231
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: At one point was it a Telstra thing? Were you

1232
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: in Telstra at the time.

1233
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: Because we were traveling a lot and it came with

1234
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: you Global roaming included Telstra. Then goes, oh, you we're

1235
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: deleting that, but it's still one hundred and ninety five

1236
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: dollars a month. I said, fuck that.

1237
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: If you want to go back on Telstra, go to

1238
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 3: Boost me.

1239
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but that's the thing I ended up

1240
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 2: on Telstra because why did I ended up on Telstra? Well?

1241
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: Boost didn't do roaming. There was some issue with roaming.

1242
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: They do now it's not that cheap. But now that

1243
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: these have a duel sin, I've discovered im and all

1244
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: this other stuff. You didn't just enable it overseas and

1245
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: it works fine. But anyway, once it is out of contract,

1246
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: I'll get rid of it because it's Telstra just just

1247
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: as bad as office in terms of customer service and stuff. There.

1248
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: We're going to wrap this up. Tell me something interesting,

1249
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: Tell something, Saucy, something saucy, Tell me something saucy. You're

1250
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: chatting up chicks in the metaverse. What are you doing?

1251
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: No, mate?

1252
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 3: Can you imagine I'm the most boring human you'll ever meet. Mate,

1253
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 3: This is the most fun I've had for fucking a month.

1254
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: You're kidding, I believe that. I imagine like Trey picking

1255
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: up chicks in the metaverse? How would that sound?

1256
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 2: Do you Yahoo?

1257
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: You really scan my hard drift? Babe?

1258
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 3: Do you it meant to be funny with him?

1259
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: I'm never sure.

1260
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: I think I just you think I just downloaded on

1261
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: my belly button.

1262
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: Does the radio station nowhere here? He just got a

1263
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: key from upstairs.

1264
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: So because you're actually on the radio, ain't it?

1265
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: Do you accept three and a half inch floppies?

1266
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: I prefer five and a quarter.

1267
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 1: By the way, that primo shot.

1268
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 3: No, it's not that one. It's your kiss one, oh,

1269
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: which is really hard talk about me coming into the room.

1270
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: Hello, Yeah, look, I've put on a few, haven't we

1271
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: all put on a few that was actually taken, that

1272
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: was taken before I was married and before the child. Yeah,

1273
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: with the child's two and a half for the court case,

1274
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: so two and.

1275
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: A half, you've got like another six years before that

1276
00:54:59,360 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: gets good.

1277
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: It's good, It's fine. I don't mind. But yeah, I'm

1278
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: proper fat now.

1279
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: I wasn't concerned it your coke selection earlier that wasn't.

1280
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: How does Paul's wife let him do all the ship

1281
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 3: that he gets money? Talks about it if my wife,

1282
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: if my wife had that credit cards you can give

1283
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: a where.

1284
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: He walks in the door and it's like a bas

1285
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: lumin movie. There's confetti and he just like where those

1286
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: couples makes it ray dancing on a pile.

1287
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: How much money did you? I'm thinking, just more simple.

1288
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 3: Have you seen the TikTok where the guy's got like

1289
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 3: a dart and he bursts a balloon and that it

1290
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 3: just just gell and ship all over this woman every

1291
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: time she walks in the house.

1292
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 2: What do you want?

1293
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, Paul's just just shooting money. It's just braining

1294
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: money as she walks in the door.

1295
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 2: My wife listens to this, wait to see what she thinks.

1296
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 2: She really she said to me, Gord, he's really funny.

1297
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, he's jokes to me.

1298
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're not you're not picking up chicks in

1299
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: the metaverse.

1300
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 3: You're traveled at home?

1301
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: Yes? What else? What else do we need to know?

1302
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: You need to know that I have a radio interview

1303
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: that can I take TV probably like ten.

1304
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 3: Minutes who's that rating nice? Someone else there?

1305
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: Brook Courts the brook Court brook is nice at that

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00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 2: time and not no she Brooks's yeah, she's on the No,

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00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: she's just used to do.

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00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 3: A TV so that we were involved in as well,

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00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 3: which was mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys giving each other like?

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00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: Look she is lovely? Yeah, she's very just had a again,

1312
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 3: second baby. This mate married not dead.

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00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: Wow, Tram is going to get in so much trouble.

1314
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm refreshingly surprised at trev Well, yeah, you've surprised him.

1315
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 3: I'm refreshing refreshingly surprised, just like you can pull this

1316
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 3: ship together.

1317
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: Well, there you go.

1318
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: I'm happy that I don't need to be.

1319
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: Don't expect your name on the poster anytime soon, because

1320
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: one we couldn't fit.

1321
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: Also, there'd be legal issues again.

1322
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: God, can you imagine if we send Fairfax our new

1323
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: new promotion? In fact, you know what Trevor Long hangs

1324
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: out on The Driver's Show, I'm going to send that

1325
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: to it.

1326
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 3: I wake up with the Driver's Show.

1327
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: Do you know what we should do for Primo for this.

1328
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 3: Hang on stop? Just for the record, before I agreed

1329
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: to this, I didn't know about all that shit?

1330
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: Neither did we finally and do you know what.

1331
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: Anyway, Look, I'm actually going to hold back. I am

1332
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: going to hold back. I am I am surprised. Did

1333
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: you rock up? Did I hear this right? Did you

1334
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: rock up to a an Elton John show and show

1335
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: your ass?

1336
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: What was that?

1337
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: Dribbling and loose the skin is?

1338
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1339
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was working.

1340
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: I thought it was a bulldog getting chogked by a

1341
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: yo yo stream.

1342
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: Can I just say I that Molly a while ago.

1343
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: He's a really nice guy and I just feel very

1344
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: sad for the situation.

1345
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me too.

1346
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: Way to bring the episode down.

1347
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah we should go back to fighting in a park

1348
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: with our shirts off.

1349
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: Jesus listen. Just the final thing I'll say is listeners

1350
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 3: think there was some fucking feud going on. I don't

1351
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: even know what was going on.

1352
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: What are you talking about, Michael Clark about I'm talking

1353
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: about you.

1354
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 2: It was Carl Stephan and Trevorlong was there as well.

1355
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: He rooted the.

1356
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: Great publicity definitely did. And it was over dinner. It

1357
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: was between main courses.

1358
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: I think that might have gone too far.

1359
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: Is the dinner?

1360
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: Just for the edit, there is a lot of editing required.

1361
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: No, there is very much not. I'm looking over at

1362
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: our social media guy. This fucking goes on YouTube as

1363
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: it happens, all right, thank it on YouTube? Yes? And

1364
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: you porn you know?

1365
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: Can I just say this is the kind of content

1366
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: the reason I am happy to come because this is

1367
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 3: the kind of content the world needs. Not boring fucking

1368
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: sitting around reading through ship it's boring. Have you listened

1369
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: to other podcasts?

1370
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 2: They're boring.

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00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: I listened to one of yours ones. I agree.

1372
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. I've moved on from that. But no,

1373
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: I think I think it's good what you're doing. Keep

1374
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 3: it up, thanks man, I'll be here when you're actually writing.

1375
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: Well, we are writing well. We're the biggest automotive podcast

1376
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: in Australia.

1377
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 2: Did you not know that we're about to do a

1378
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: go fundme for our next legal challenge.

1379
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to use that. I'm going to use that

1380
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: as our promo photo.

1381
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,479
Speaker 3: I've got a better one from CS No, no, no, no,

1382
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 3: You've got just just last thing before we get because's

1383
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: going to just search dice in Zone Dyson like the

1384
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 3: fan company, dice in Zone just right e f TM. Yeah,

1385
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: I sure, am for Mary Champ. That's me there have

1386
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 3: a look at that. If that's not a promo photo,

1387
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: know what is?

1388
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: I prefer the son? Are you? What are you doing there?

1389
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: Like what? It's like an oculus, but you're eating a chicks.

1390
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: Headphones? It's headphones and there's no ass headphones that purify

1391
00:59:59,640 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: the air.

1392
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: Are they genuinely serious?

1393
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 3: It was announced on April the first last year. I

1394
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 3: thought it was so stupid, and I tell you it

1395
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: wasn't It's real and I listened to them. They great headphones.

1396
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 3: I just don't fucking understand why you would want them

1397
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 3: unless you lived in the New York subway.

1398
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: Around the expo, like your doctor to doc, I was

1399
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: born of it. That's from Batman. You know I was

1400
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: born of it.

1401
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1402
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 3: I mean.

1403
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: It's a bang from Batman. From Batman?

1404
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 3: Does your wife think you're funny?

1405
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: I was born? I think I think I talk on

1406
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: behalf of everyone and you're making is uncomfortable. Can you

1407
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: please leave?

1408
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: All right? Thank you Trevor for action a pleasure.

1409
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming in, Baddy than before we go,

1410
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: we got to read emails.

1411
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: Yes, and also if you do want to send us

1412
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: an email for us to read out on the show.

1413
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: Contact at the Drivers Show dot com today you not

1414
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: just something else. It's the Driver's Show.

1415
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: The Drivershow dot com dot you. That's the only website

1416
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: we've got, so always using the driver Show dot com

1417
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: dot you, the Drivershow dot com dot you on Instagram too.

1418
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: You can dm us. Is that what they say? I

1419
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 1: don't know you're a child? Is that what they say?

1420
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: So let's run through and also, please leave us a

1421
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: rating whichever platform you listen to this on. Please. I

1422
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: know that you don't think it means much, but please

1423
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 2: just go in there and just write something nice and

1424
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: leave a five star rating or a thumbs up or whatever.

1425
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: It'll help us get promoted. So first email so from

1426
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: Neil and he wrote, Hi, guys, just wanted to pass

1427
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: on that this is a great podcast. Paul is always

1428
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: knowledgeable and that was it on all things cars, and

1429
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: Gordy is just a clown. Hey. I really want to

1430
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 2: say something bad about Gordy so he can pay out

1431
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: on me every episode like Daniel, But I can't.

1432
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: What did he just call me?

1433
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: Okay?

1434
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: He said, can't? Did he?

1435
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay? He then wrote, even my wife enjoyed listening

1436
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: to a few episodes on a re road trip. No surprise,

1437
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:05,479
Speaker 2: Paul's a hit with the mums. I'm only human.

1438
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 3: That's so good.

1439
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: You are the Center's picks Neil, and he wrote to

1440
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 2: keep up the podcast. It's a great entertaining addition to

1441
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: my feed. As Gordy would say, fuck you, Daniel gold Bust. Yeah,

1442
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 2: he had a serious question though, He wrote as an aside,

1443
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 2: I have a twenty twenty two Kisserato GT. What are

1444
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: your opinions on this? I personally love the car, although

1445
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 2: I would love a Stinger. I'm just not on Gordy

1446
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: money to afford one.

1447
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I reckon the Kisarato GT is

1448
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: a great car. I think it's good. It's a furry,

1449
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: fiery little car.

1450
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 3: It's good.

1451
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: Well you've driven that. How does it compet to your Stinger?

1452
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't.

1453
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: But like, what similarities could you draw? Because I thought

1454
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: we actually have a YouTube review going live of the

1455
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: Serato GT. And for the amount of money you pay

1456
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: for that, it was one of the most enjoyable cars

1457
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: I've driven around the proving ground. It was so fast

1458
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 2: and so fun. Didn't love the ride, didn't love the

1459
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 2: tyn Or it was a bit excessive. Stinger, on the

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01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: other hand, is a bit more of a GT cruiser, right, Yeah, comfortable, Yeah.

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01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: It's a proper GT car. I think the Serrato is.

1462
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: I just think it's great. It's bang for your Bucket's brilliant.

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01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: It is a front wheel drive, yep, so there's that

1464
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: which is a bit but I think it's great. I

1465
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: think it's got everything if you can. For me, it

1466
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: just felt a bit small and cramped. I wouldn't have

1467
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: it as a family car, but I think everything is there.

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01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: It's well appointed, the tech is excellent. It looks really

1469
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: good from the front at least anyway. I don't know.

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01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 1: Paul always thinks the rides a bit stiff, but Paul

1471
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: has a bad case of hemorrhoids.

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01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: And there is a cream that I'm using for that.

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01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: There is, can I say, actually as well with Serato GT,

1474
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: they just move the cel Toss with a similar engine

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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 2: to this to a torque converter. Serato GT is currently

1476
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 2: a Jewel clutch and I found the torqu converter excellent

1477
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: in the celt Toss. The only thing I didn't really

1478
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: like about that drive train in the Serato was low

1479
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: speed with jewel clutch. I'd love to see if they

1480
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: changed to a talk converter as well. It would really

1481
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: be quite a sort and if they had an adaptive damping,

1482
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: they would actually have what I would deem a very

1483
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: warm hatch. So I think it is on the warmer

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01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 2: side of warm, on the hotter side of warm.

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01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

1486
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 2: Who knows anyway?

1487
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: Anyway? Yeah, great car, Thank you for their email.

1488
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: Love it. Here's another good one, this one quick thing.

1489
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: If he does want a bay Stinger, I think he

1490
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: can buy mine because it's currently for I think you

1491
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: can also pick up a really reasonable one with good

1492
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: K's for about fifty grand. At the moment, they are

1493
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: discontinuing them, and I wonder if that will up the price.

1494
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't think I think they'll I think they'll go

1495
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah.

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01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 2: I think so as well. Email from Michael titled Dealer

1497
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 2: Delivery Fee. Now this was a good email because he

1498
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: had a really good question in here, and and it

1499
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 2: was one I had to do a bit of research on.

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01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 2: So I wrote, Hi, Paul and Gordy, glad you're back.

1501
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 2: Was wondering why you stopped podcasting given the show was

1502
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: so entertaining and moderately informative. So he wrote, Paul, you

1503
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: mentioned in the December show that if you pay more

1504
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: than two thousand dollars dellary delivery, you're being ripped off.

1505
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: I guess I'm being ripped off good, because I'm paying

1506
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 2: thirty five hundred for my Genesis GV seventy. No, it's

1507
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: not the three point five twin Turbo. Given that Genesis

1508
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: don't have dealerships and I have to deal directly with

1509
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: the manufacturer, I guess this is a sneaky way for

1510
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: Young Day of increasing their vehicle margins and still appearing

1511
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: to offer good value pricing, as reviewers only tend to

1512
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: report on the price before on roads. I'll be interested

1513
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: to see what special fanfare I receive when I collect

1514
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: my GV seventy in mid jan So if you are

1515
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: listening to this, give us a yell and let us

1516
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 2: know how it went for the three point five k

1517
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: dealer delivery. But I suspect it will be underwhelming given

1518
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 2: the customer service so far. Really enjoy the podcast. It

1519
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: would be great if you could increase the frequency to

1520
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: weekly episodes. I've also unsubscribed from another podcast that I

1521
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: won't mention, but you can use your imagination. Now, I

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01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: should clarify that when I was talking about Dilly delivery

1523
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 2: in the December show, that was strictly in relation to

1524
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: for dealar delivery. It wasn't other brands. Other brands will

1525
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: charge much more and in the cases in the case

1526
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: of Genesis, no, you're not getting ripped off. I had

1527
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: a look at the Genesis website and I think their

1528
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: deal of delivery was around three grand, so they probably

1529
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: are rating a little bit of mayo to that, just

1530
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: a tiny bit. But you're not getting ripped off in

1531
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: the grand scheme of things.

1532
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: They might be able to negotiate that day.

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01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I just think it's a bit expensive, to

1534
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 2: be honest, because thirty five hundred they really.

1535
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: Don't they deliver this car like to the.

1536
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's my other question as well. Are you

1537
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: getting a home delivery or are you picking it up

1538
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 2: from one of their dealers or a yun day dealer

1539
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: even do let us know? But yeah, in short, you're

1540
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 2: not getting totally ripped off. It is just a little expensive.

1541
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 2: Let us know how the delivery went and whether you

1542
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: thought there was value in that. There might be some

1543
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: process behind the scenes. That is much bigger than a.

1544
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: Forward perhaps and generally also too, because it's a genesis

1545
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: it you're not getting you're not taking delivery of the

1546
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: young day they like they could have, as you said,

1547
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: different processes on getting this car ready for delivery.

1548
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's let's see, because that's a lot of money.

1549
01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 2: That's what five percent of the car's price potentially or

1550
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: even slightly less than that. There's a shitload of money.

1551
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, get in touch with us, Michael, if you

1552
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 2: hear this and we're still listening, please and let us

1553
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: know how it all went, because we're very keen to

1554
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: find out.

1555
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, five stars. Leave a nice comment. We'll see you

1556
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Speaker 1: next week. God, it's hot in here.

1557
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 2: It is. What the hell is It's like you've got

1558
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: an interrogation light on or something. I have a bickroom

1559
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: podcast

1560
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,919
Speaker 1: So I do not want to see you're downward dog

1561
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: like that would just be Oh God,