1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,080 Speaker 1: Welcome Back. 2 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 2: The second series of my podcast has touched on the 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: role that men play in supporting women going through perimenopause 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: and menopause, and this episode continues on that theme. Mitch 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: Little came to my attention on Instagram in his series 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: of funny videos about his partner as they navigate the 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: perils of perimenopause together. It's comic relief for a condition 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: that some men feel as just too private to approach, 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: but Mitch is facing it headfirst, while also lending his 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: expertise in the fitness and wellness industry to women just 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: like me. Done Lululemon girls and enjoy. Put the castor 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 2: oil in your belly button. 13 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 3: Menopause. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: It's coming for you no matter what. Let's build a 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: village of support. 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 3: Why is it so damn hot in here? 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: Menopause is so hot right now? 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: I think them only and menopause. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: Women just want to feel hurt rage against the menopause. 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: Will consider this a community service announcement, Fellas. 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: In this episode, my wife is. 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: Currently going through perimenopause and I want to share some 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: valuable tips that I've learned with all the fellas. Tip 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: Number one snacks don't be messing around with the snacks 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: in the house. These are no longer yours. Your partner 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: is very up to date with the snack inventory, and 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: if there's one left in the fridge, this does not 28 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: belong to you. For safety reasons, you have to be 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: quieter about everything that you do. Any form of heavy breathing, 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: particularly from the nostrils, is now out of bounds. Things 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: like this could quite literally get you killed. I suggest, 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: if possible, thinking quieter is ideal. Even sounds like blinking, 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: which we didn't even know was a thing, is something 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: that you should avoid or learn to stop doing. Is 35 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: such a sweetie. I suggest waking up and just saying sorry. 36 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: You don't have to know what you're sorry for. But again, 37 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: this could quite literally save your life. If your partner 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: mentions how hot it is, don't you dare say that 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: it's not, even if it's a frozen winter's day. Be 40 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: whose shares a hot furnace spoiling larva ball she doesn't 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: want to hear your core temperature is comfortable and ideal. 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 3: If your partner asks you how your night sleep was, 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: respond with it was absolutely shit house because her sleep 44 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: regulating hormones estrogen and pogesterone currently not letting her sleep. 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: I was saying that you're feeling arrested and refreshed and 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: extremely risky Morge now jokes aside. Please know that although 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 3: you feel like at times you're living with a fire 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: breathing dragon or is she, she still loves you and 49 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: this is just an extremely tough period in any female's 50 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: life and they mean no harm. Fellas. Follow these simple 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: tips and not only will this help your partner out immensely, 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: you my friend may live to fight another day. My 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: name is Mitch Little, and that's all I have to 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: say about that. 55 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: The man himself wise man indeed, Mitch. 56 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: How are you good? Thank you Patchers for having me. 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 3: That was a lot of information to take on, wasn't it. 58 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: It's brilliant information and very wise advice. 59 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: Mitch. 60 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: You are a Gold Coast based coach and personal fitness entrepreneur. 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: You have hundreds and thousands of followers on your Instagram page, 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: which I am not surprised. You put up the most 63 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: wonderful videos which help men navigate perimenopause and menopause. You're 64 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: a pioneer in spreading the word on support for women 65 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: and in fact, your own wife is in the throes 66 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: of perimenopause as we speak. 67 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, and you know, to be honest, this 68 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: isn't something that I really broadcast that. It's not anything 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 3: in fact that I was really thinking about. But it's 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: just I suppose it's come to life that you know 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: what my wife is going through perimenopause now. It's something 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: that I didn't understand a few years ago. Truth be told, 73 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: I wish I did. It probably could have said us 74 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: both a lot of heartache and argument and whatnot. But 75 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 3: it's yeah, look, it's something that I'm glad that I 76 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: know more about now because it's made me understand what 77 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: females are going through. And you know, coming from a 78 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: thirty five year old bloke who's never going to go 79 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: through a mental cycle, I get all that. But I 80 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: think my message is to women that I just get it, 81 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 3: I understand, and I think that that's a start. That's 82 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: a conversation open there anyway. 83 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: It's a great start because I think women up to 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: now don't feel heard, which is why I want to 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: make this podcast and every day and building my village 86 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: of support for women of you know, letting them know, hey, 87 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 2: other people are feeling the same way you are seen, 88 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: you are heard, and you know what, you're not going crazy. 89 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: And I think it's up to all of us. And 90 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: this series, Mitch is really focusing on the impact that 91 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: men can make and the role that men can play 92 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: in making it not a taboo subject anymore. 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, Well, I mean if you don't have even 94 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: just a base understanding that you know, between the age 95 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: of thirty five, I mean this is when perimenopause can 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: start for women. If men don't have an understanding of it, 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: and if females don't have an understanding of it, there 98 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: can be a lot of clashes. And you know, suicide rates, 99 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: divorce rates are at their peak during this time, and 100 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a coincidence, But if the conversation 101 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: is a little bit more open, I just think there's 102 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: going to be a lot more understanding around the situation. 103 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolute knowledge is power, right. 104 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 105 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 2: I do love because you know they say if you 106 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: don't laugh, you cry, So I really love how you've 107 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: brought humor to the argument. I'm going to play another 108 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: one of your reels which just had tears streaming down 109 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: my eyes. 110 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 5: My wife is currently in the thickness, perimenopause. 111 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 3: There she is right there. She's so sweet, a little sweetie. 112 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: Anyway, She's handed me this list of things that she 113 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 5: either wants me to work on or stop doing, and 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 5: full just this is actually a sealed envelope and I'm 115 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 5: yet to read any of these. So we're going to 116 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 5: do this together. It's two pages. Don't help me by 117 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 5: doing laundry. 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,559 Speaker 3: You never get it right, so today. 119 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 5: Stop opening new items in the fridge when there is 120 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 5: already one in use. 121 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: It makes me want to stab you with a dirty fork. 122 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 5: It's not very nice if you see me crying over 123 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 5: something pathetic. 124 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: Hug me exclamation mark, you heartless jerk. 125 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 5: Wow, I'm hot, like a fireball of lava hot. So 126 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: don't ask me to turn down the air conditioning or 127 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 5: the fan. Get yourself a jumper, dickhead, Stop very supportive. 128 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 5: Stop saying you've already said that I have brain fog. 129 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: I don't know if the language is necessary. 130 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: Sit the fut down and listen to it again and again. 131 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 5: For the love of God. Stop using more than one 132 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 5: roll of toilet paper. Don't tell me what to do. 133 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 5: Page two. Don't ask me if I'm angry. Yes, I 134 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 5: am Why am I angry? I don't know, so don't 135 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 5: ask why either. It's a little bit confusing. I've got 136 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 5: feelings too. The constant now, this is this getting nitpicky. 137 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: The constant scratching of your eyes, knows and throats at 138 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 5: nights makes me want to drive off our bedroom balcony. 139 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 5: Take a bloody any histamine. 140 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: I'm feeling attacked. End note. 141 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 5: Thank you for your patience and love while I've been 142 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 5: going through hell. My brain is currently rewiring itself. You're welcome. 143 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 5: It's a little bit nicer, thank you. Confession. I sometimes 144 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 5: flip you the bird when you turn your back. Would 145 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 5: anybody else like to add something? 146 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: You know? It's so true. 147 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: It's all those irrational responses that we as women are 148 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: so very aware of. And then after you know, you 149 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: snap at your partner. There's this immense feeling of regret 150 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: and guilt. But I can't even fathom how it must 151 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: be for you guys, because well, you know, how can 152 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: you figure out and navigate through it when we as 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: women are struggling as well like it? It must be 154 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: really difficult being on the other side of the hormonal change. 155 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, look absolutely, and you know you've got to choose 156 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: your words carefully even with answering that, because you know, 157 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: the the struggles that females go through, both physically and 158 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: emotionally is next level. You get your life slifted upside down. 159 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes it feels like it's overnight. But you know, 160 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: on the other side, it's absolutely a difficult situation for 161 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: men also because we have to we have to learn 162 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: to be super understanding. And you know, I even just 163 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: joke with my wife that there's certain things that I'll 164 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: think about asking her, but then it's like, well, hang on, 165 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: I can actually do that myself. And I'm not even 166 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 3: joking that sense. There is so many things where I 167 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 3: might yell out to my Oh, think about yelling out 168 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: to my wife, you know, where are the scissors or 169 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: where is the milk? And then hang on, I'll put 170 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 3: my big boy pants on. This is not only going 171 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: to help me develop as a human. She's not going 172 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: to get frustrated because I know that even the sound 173 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: of me breathing at the moment is affecting her lifestyle. So, 174 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: you know, is it is a difficult time for both 175 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 3: men and women. But I truly do believe that if 176 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: men understand that there is this massive hormonal shit happening, 177 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: and you know that. I compare it to me having 178 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: a headache. Pat If I have a headache or I 179 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: have even just seven hours sleep instead of eight, well 180 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: I'm not a very good person. The next day, I'm snappy, 181 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: I'm not functioning well. Ladies are dealing with that twenty four, 182 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: seven or fifteen years relentlessly, So we just have to 183 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: look at the facts and be understanding. 184 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: I believe, I love that it does test your relationship. 185 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: I've been with married to my husband for nearly thirty 186 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: years and obviously with him for longer than. 187 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: That, and it really does. 188 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: You have to, I think, go back to we're one 189 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: with your relationship and just do a reset. And it's 190 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: constantly evolving, like any relationship is. 191 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: You grow together. But it is probably. 192 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: One of the most challenging periods in a couple's life, 193 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: is you know, I guess it's resetting the boundaries and 194 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: seeing where best you can support each other in moving 195 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: through it together. 196 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean there's different curveballs, there's different emotions. 197 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: You know, I can walk into a room and see 198 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: my wife crying and I'll ask her, you know, why 199 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: are you crying and she'll say there's no reason, and 200 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: for me, I said, but there has to be a 201 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: reason you're crying. No, there's no reason, you know. And 202 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: there's there's the different questions that get thrown at you. 203 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: The other night, we were just sitting there casually watching TV, 204 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: and my wife asked me if I would cry if 205 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: I was at a funeral. 206 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: So there's all of these bizarre questions and bizarre chain 207 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,599 Speaker 4: just in behavior that you just you know, when. 208 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 3: I know now that what's happening, it seems much more 209 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: normal and I can. 210 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: What was your answer, would you try at a funeral? 211 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: Do you know? Do you know what I actually said? Pat? 212 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: I said, I'm not at an answering that question. I 213 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: can't believe you disasked that. 214 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: That would be the love God's response as well. I 215 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: asked him the other day, I said, if I died, 216 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: would you remarry? And if you did, like, what sort 217 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: of woman would. 218 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 4: Know that? 219 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: I'm not dignifying that with an answer. 220 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's that's actually a conversation that we've had 221 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: as well. She's even given me a little list of 222 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: people that she would be okay with. Yeah, I forget 223 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 3: who they were, but there was a list. She's like, 224 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 3: I'd be okay with this, I'd be okay with that. 225 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: But she said if it was somebody who wasn't on 226 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 3: the list, that she would come and haunt me every 227 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: single night. 228 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. 229 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: So you can get away from it if she passes away. 230 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: So it's never ending, which. 231 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: You do have a lifetime of experience and knowledge within 232 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: the health and exercise industry. That is your feather in 233 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: your cap bone density is a major major issue in menopause. 234 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: Exercise is not something that I have to be honest, enjoy. 235 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: Let's face it, we're having so many hot flushes. The 236 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: last thing I want to do is get even hotter 237 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 2: and sweat. Plus we're dealing with, you know, a sore body. 238 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 2: We feel like we're eighty when we're not, saw muscles, stiffness, 239 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: all those fun things. So exercise is kind of the 240 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: last thing that you feel like doing. What do you 241 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: recommend for women in that stage as far as you 242 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: know what can help us going through perimenopause and menopause 243 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: when it comes to fitness. 244 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, So I'll start by saying what I believe 245 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: the mistakes are that women do make when they go 246 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 3: through pairing menopause. First of all, there's a massive shift 247 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 3: in a female's body when you go through this period. 248 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: There's a big change in body composition, so you might 249 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: notice a drop and lean muscle mass. You might also 250 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: notice an increase of body fat, particularly in areas that 251 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 3: once upon a time you didn't have an issue. Also, 252 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: it's just yeah, it also, yeah, that's right. You'll get 253 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 3: a little bit more body fat distributed into your midsection. 254 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: But what women can tend to do is freak out 255 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: and go, okay, well, when was I happy with my physique? 256 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: Okay when I was twenty, I'm going to do what 257 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 3: I did when I was twenty. So all of a sudden, 258 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 3: you start thinking that you've got to do this immense 259 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: amount of exercise, just above and beyond what you've usually 260 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: been doing. And this can cause eights pains, This can 261 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: give you an unhealthy relationship with ex whereas an actual fact, 262 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: it's not about doing more. It's about being smarter, and 263 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: it's about looking at what are the facts and what 264 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: is going to benefit you through this period. 265 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: Because a lot of women take up pilates or yoga, 266 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: sort of more kinder forms of exercise, gentler forms of 267 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: exercise but still get the benefit from their regime. 268 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And you know, ultimately the best form of 269 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 3: exercise is the one that you enjoy the most. That 270 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: is really what you want to look at first and foremost. 271 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: What do I enjoy? What is going to get me 272 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: up out of bed, What is going to get me moving, 273 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: what's going to motivate me? That is the most important thing. 274 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: But when we look at what is really beneficial for 275 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: a female during perimenophorse and menophause, it is bone density 276 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: and lean muscle mass. Due to the decrease in estrogen 277 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: and pagesterone, you will see a drop in lean muscle 278 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 3: mass and bone density. So something like strength training is 279 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: a huge, huge benefit. Now, this doesn't mean that you've 280 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 3: got to go to the gym and break all sorts 281 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: of world records. You can just through some basic exercises 282 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: at home, because ultimately, keeping your bone strong, keeping your 283 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: lee muscle mass is really the fountain of youth. It 284 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: keeps you strong, it gives you good posture, and it 285 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: also puts you in a really good frame of minds. 286 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: My wife actually said something really really great yesterday. She 287 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: was writing a blog that she's going to send out 288 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: a few days. She mentioned that she used to love 289 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: strength training like she loved it, that really motivated her, 290 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: but her energy is not so great anymore, etc. But 291 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: she now knows that it's a necessity. So even though 292 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: she doesn't have the energy, she knows that it's a 293 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: necessity for her body to basically stay on track because 294 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: without it, you can really really start to decline. So 295 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: I would recommend to any females going through perimenopause that 296 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 3: you do look incorporating some form of basic strength training, 297 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: even if it's once a week. The benefits that you 298 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: receive from it are just incredible. 299 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: It's like they're saying, isn't it Use it or lose it. 300 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: It's really true, and it's even more true now because 301 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, perimenopause can be a real asshole. It's just 302 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 3: this massive shift in hormones and it basically just feeds 303 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: off your emotions, your bone density, lean muscle mass, and 304 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: you can see such a fast decline and it can 305 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: be quite terrifying, but it isn't doom and gloom. Adding 306 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: some strength training can really really offset this decline. And 307 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: one thing that my wife is noticing just through strength 308 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: training again we actually started training together again because I 309 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: knew that this would motivate her. I know that this 310 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: is a time where she does need me to step 311 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: in and be there for her. We can head to 312 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: the gym and she's feeling tired and not motivated, but 313 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: every single time we walk out, she's energized and vigorated. 314 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 3: There's been times actually where she's broke down in tears 315 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 3: because she's so glad that she's doing it and it 316 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: makes her proud of herself, and that's, for me, is 317 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: quite inspiring to see. It's actually the most I've enjoyed 318 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 3: training in many, many years, because I like to see 319 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: the benefits it's giving her. 320 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what you're doing is you're not only 321 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: building your bond with her, but you're empowering her to 322 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: take control of her peri menopause and to feel in 323 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: control of it, because you do feel like an alien's 324 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: taken over your body and you just feel so alien 325 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: like and like you have no control. You're at its 326 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 2: whim and it's mercy. So I really think that is 327 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: the greatest gift you could give her, is to empower 328 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: her and make her feel in control of the situation, 329 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: and that she's coping. 330 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. And one of the biggest things too, pat 331 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 3: that I think everybody should understand, particularly ladies at this 332 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: stage of life, is the benefit that it can give 333 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 3: your mental health. So I've seen my wife go up 334 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: and down just with a rollercoaster of emotions. Exercise, within 335 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: itself is one of the best things that you can 336 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: do to boost your mental health. It was only a 337 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: few days ago. We're at the gym, and this sounds 338 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: terrible to say, but I saw my wife smile and 339 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: I did this massive double take and I said, I'm 340 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: not joking right now, but I haven't seen that sort 341 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: of uplifting, really genuine, true smile for a long time. 342 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: And I said, like, was that real or was it fake? 343 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 3: And she said, no, I think it was real. And 344 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, that is just you know, 345 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 3: that is amazing to see. And it was just exercise 346 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: and jewsed happiness. 347 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, she was beaming. 348 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: And you know, I totally get that because sometimes I 349 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: look in the mirror and I look back at the reflection. I'm, 350 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: you know, in my early fifties now, and I think 351 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: I don't recognize that person. Does that make sense? It's 352 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: like you lose yourself when you're a mum and a 353 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: partner and you've got your career, you do you lose 354 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: yourself and you don't recognize yourself and you do look older, 355 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: you're aging gracefully and whatever else. 356 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: But true happiness comes from within. 357 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And you know, I think any day that 358 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: we are actually alive is a fantastic day. And I 359 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: completely understand that there's a massive shift in an individual's 360 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: mindset where you know, I don't actually look like I 361 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: did once upon a time, or whatever the case may be. 362 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 3: But I'll always say to our clients that it is 363 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: okay to have aesthetic goals. There's absolutely no nothing wrong 364 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: with wanting to change the way that you look in 365 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: the mirror because you know, look good, feel good. Absolutely 366 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 3: I get that. But if we only lean on that 367 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: as our one metric of success or how we feel, 368 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: we can be quite disappointed. Because I believe if we 369 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: start focusing on other metrics like bone density, lean muscle mass, 370 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: cardiovascular health, we can actually find so many more wins 371 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: within our day. Instead of being one hundred percent fixated 372 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 3: on one thing, it can lead you down a path 373 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 3: of I just don't think it's extremely motivating. And that's 374 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: something that I've even learned myself personally over the years. 375 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: I used to be obsessed with the mirror, but now 376 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: just with a bit more maturity, I can now see 377 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: the value in focusing on other things as well. 378 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: That's the thing too, I think as you ages, once 379 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: upon a time, for many decades, it might have been 380 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: working out or whatever to fit into that dress for 381 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: that wedding or for your own wedding, or to wear 382 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: the bikini when you go to the beach. But now 383 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: it is it's something so much more deeper about that. 384 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 2: It's about your longevity and your health and being around 385 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: for your kids and being the best version of you 386 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: that you can be. 387 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: I am. 388 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: I'm notoriously bad at exercise. 389 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: I do not enjoy it, and it's I guess it's 390 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 2: a vicious circle in it. I do shift work, shift hours, 391 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: and so the motivation is just not there. What would 392 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: your advice be for women like me who really don't exercise? 393 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: Is a brisk walk? 394 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 3: You know? 395 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: I might have a brisk walk two or three times 396 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: a week with the dog, but is that enough? 397 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 3: Look, something is always going to be better than nothing. 398 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: That's actually something that everybody should remember that you don't 399 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: have to on your first day climb straight to the 400 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 3: top of the mountain. A start for you might be 401 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: walking to the end of the street and back, and 402 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 3: then that's something that you can progress from. A lot 403 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: of people set really unrealistic. 404 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: That's where I failed in the past. Yeah, and just 405 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: gone absolutely gung ho. And my husband said, hey, you 406 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: just you know, I might think I need to do 407 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: something for nights a week. He's like, no, no, no, 408 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: just little bits. 409 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, set yourself realistic targets. Pencil something down and 410 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 3: think of a form of exercise that you think you 411 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: would enjoy. Make a commitment to yourself that you are 412 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: going to do that this week, and then if you 413 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 3: feel like you can commit to more, then you should progress. 414 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 3: Something is better than nothing, And I think what does 415 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: stop a lot of people from starting is thinking that 416 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: they need to break world records from the very beginning. 417 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: And life doesn't work like that. It doesn't matter if 418 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 3: it's weight loss or if it's your business. You have 419 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: to start at the start line and just make those progressions. 420 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: So just move. It will be the best investment that 421 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: you could possibly make during this time in your life. 422 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: And you know what, I think it's prioritizing yourself for 423 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: a change, instead of putting everyone else as your first priority, 424 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: shifting them absolutely, shifting the spotlight to yourself. What about diet, Mitch, 425 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: what would you recommend to women that can help assist 426 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: especially with hot flushers and just your general of health 427 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 2: across that sort of time. 428 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so. The female weight loss industry is a 429 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: multi billion dollar industry, and you'll probably find that once 430 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: you sort of hit the age of forty, you start 431 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 3: seeing all these little weird pop ups on your phone. Okay, 432 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: you know, put the cart oil in your belly button, 433 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: do the twenty floor before google it? All right, everybody, 434 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 3: gurgle it. You'll just be blown away. You know, you'll 435 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 3: be told that you need a fast, You'll be told 436 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: that you need a detox, you liver, all these things, 437 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: whereas natural fact, the best thing that you can do 438 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 3: is this comes straight back to the basics. Yeah, right, 439 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: there's small things that we can do. Make sure that 440 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: we're getting enough protein so we're feeding our lean muscle mass, 441 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: make sure that we're hydrating. There's nothing complex about improving 442 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: your health or losing a little bit of weight. You 443 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: have to follow a lifestyle, and you know this means 444 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: that you're still going to have a glass of wine, 445 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 3: you're still going to go out and enjoy your meal 446 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: with your friends on the weekend. But it also does 447 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 3: boil down to being accountable, understanding that you do have 448 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: to control your calories, control your habits. Because many women 449 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: during menopause and perimenopause believe that weight loss is impossible, 450 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 3: whereas it's just about coming back to the basics and 451 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: being consistent with it. I'll always say pat that if 452 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: what you're doing feel short term and you're not enjoying it, 453 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: you're only going to get short term results. And I 454 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 3: believe that women are notorious for unfortunately being led a 455 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: stray down down a path of that diet. It's awful 456 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 3: some of the things that I've heard women do it Like, 457 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: I've never even heard of that. 458 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: What what are some of the things? 459 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 3: Oh? Look, I think the biggest things at the moment 460 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 3: is like, yeah, the cast royal thing. I don't know 461 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 3: how it works, but you put cast roil and your 462 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: belly button, put a band aid over it, go to 463 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: sleep and apparent Yeah, apparently that's meant to help you 464 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: lose weight. Fasting is a huge one with women, which 465 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: I'm not against fasting, but ninety nine percent of the 466 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: world's population isn't going to enjoy it, you know, even 467 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: just things like keto carnivore. You know, you go forty 468 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 3: to fifty years enjoying bread and then all of a 469 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: sudden you think that you've got to stop it. It's ridiculous. 470 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't go without bread. 471 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: I eat bread every single day, every day. 472 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 2: Oh, you're a workout demon, though, But I have cut 473 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: it back. But I think there's a shift. Isn't there 474 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: a shift back to white bread? 475 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: Now? Look, I recommend that you just eat whatever bread 476 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: you like. Okay. The biggest things that cause weight gain 477 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: for an individual is like, all right, if you're not 478 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: getting enough protein in your day, you're going to find 479 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: yourself very hungry. When you're hungry, you're more inclined to 480 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: snack on chips than chocolate. So it's just about having 481 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: a sensible balance of nutrients and just following some really 482 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: basic guidelines that put you in a very safe lane 483 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: of success. And when you realize it, it's like, oh 484 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: my gosh, what have I been doing my whole life? 485 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 3: This is actually, isn't that difficult. We We work with 486 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: women who have struggled to lose even just one kilo 487 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: for years on end, to then lose a kilo in 488 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 3: the first week and go, wow, I was actually eating 489 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: sandwiches this week. That was lovely. 490 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's motivating, isn't it. 491 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: It is? It is motivating, but it's also really basic. 492 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: But you know, the basics have been thrown out the 493 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: window and replaced with complicated nonsense. 494 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: With protein as a perimenopause and menopausal women, do we 495 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: need more protein intaken? 496 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: And just how much should we be having on a 497 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: daily basis? 498 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: Look, on average, we recommend that you should try and 499 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: hit one point five grams of protein per kilo of 500 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: your body weight. That's just going to put you in 501 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: a really sack position. It doesn't have to be exact, 502 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: but that's a good starting point and it doesn't have 503 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 3: to be as complicated as you think. If you're having 504 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 3: a few eggs for breakfast, you know, a chicken sandwich 505 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: at lunch, some spaghetti bolonaise at dinner, the chances are 506 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 3: the majority of people are going to be hitting their 507 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: proteins targets. Yeah, but it is extremely important protein, like 508 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 3: I said, will help maintain your lean muscle mouse and 509 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 3: it's the most important macro nutrient to make sure that 510 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: you feel full. 511 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: So if people want to follow you, Mitch, it's Mitch 512 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: Little Academy on Instagram. 513 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Mitch Little Academy. If you just start on Instagram, Facebook, anywhere, 514 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: you'll be able to You'll be able to see what 515 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm about. 516 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 2: It's a handy tool for women too, who perhaps can't 517 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: go to the expense of hiring a personal trainer or 518 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: have a gym membership. 519 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so your Instagram start again. 520 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: Your Instagram videos are so jam packed full of really 521 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: great expert advice, and it kind of takes the burden off, 522 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 2: you know, having to follow that regime as well if 523 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 2: they just follow you. There's so many great tips about 524 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: perimenopause and menopause fitness. 525 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And like I said, this is something that 526 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 3: I'm still learning about every single day. Is something that 527 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: I'm researching or just just learning through the experiences that 528 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 3: I'm having with my wife and being able to get 529 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: her honest feedback each day. You know, things like how 530 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: did you sleep last night, how do you feel today, 531 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: how are your joints. How do you feel after your workout? 532 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: It's really interesting to ask these questions and just get 533 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: more of a picture of what's actually happening with you 534 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: physically and mentally at the moment. 535 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: I love that, Mitch. 536 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: I really want to congratulate you. It is absolutely phenomenal 537 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: what you're doing. It's amazing for women, but also even 538 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: more so for guys who need advice or support. Even 539 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: I recommend you follow Mitch Little on Instagram. You will 540 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: definitely get, if not a laugh, some great advice from it. 541 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: So I thank you from the bottom of my heart. 542 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 3: No, thank you so much. And yeah, I appreciate you 543 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: helping helping get that message out. And good work to 544 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: you as well for making the conversation a little bit 545 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: more mainstream, because you know, one thing that I can 546 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: tell you for a factor is since I've started speaking 547 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: about it a little bit more and you know, just 548 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: posting some reels on social media that are getting some traction, 549 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: seeing the comments pop up. My wife has actually said 550 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: that reading some of the comments on the post of 551 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: and putting up has been like therapy to her because 552 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 3: it makes her feel like she's not alone. And I 553 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: think that if I think that if women are more 554 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: open to talk about it amongst themselves, even that within 555 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: itself is going to be a massive, massive start to 556 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 3: help so many women through this process. 557 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: It's a shift, Mitch, It's a shift, and it's I 558 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: don't even want to say it's a minor revolution. It's 559 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: a major revolution. Like the time has come to talk 560 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: about it. We've been suffering all these decades for far 561 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 2: too long, and it's you know, it's a change. The 562 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: leaf has turned over and this is the way forward. 563 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: And thank you for helping be part of that. 564 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: Not my pleasure, no worries at all. 565 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: And you can follow Mit shodline at Mitch Little Academy. 566 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: He also has a handy app you can download to 567 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: help reach your health and fitness goals going forward. Nutrition 568 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: is a common theme when I speak to women about menopause. 569 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: I'll be touching on that a little later on Rage 570 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: Against the Menopause. 571 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: You know, you can always drop into my dms with 572 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: suggestions of things you'd like covered in your journey. Perhaps 573 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: you want to share your lived experience or how my 574 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 2: podcast has helped you. Hit me up on Insta at 575 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: Patrina 576 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: Jones Newman, Rage Against the menopause,