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Speaker 1: This episode of The Surge is brought to you by Origin,

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Speaker 1: proud partners of Cricket Australia and powering the power Surge

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Speaker 1: in BBL fifteen. After a wild forty game regular season,

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Speaker 1: the BBL fifteen Finals are here.

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Speaker 2: Start to take the catch and beats the chest.

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Speaker 1: And after finishing on top of the table, Perth scorches

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Speaker 1: speeds to Jay richardson DALs In ahead of the.

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Speaker 3: Qualifier he's gonna finish which four Melbourne Stars.

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Speaker 1: Veteran Peter Siddle is also back on the show ahead

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Speaker 1: of his sides knockout final against the Hobart Hurricanes.

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Speaker 3: This is the Surge Day, everybody, and welcome to the Surge.

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Speaker 1: I'm Adam White as we look ahead to this year's

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Speaker 1: final series BBL fifteen and what a final series we

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Speaker 1: have ahead of us. But before that, we've got the

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Speaker 1: Surge and we've got two stars that have figured really

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Speaker 1: quite prominent throughout the course of this season. Particularly Peter

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Speaker 1: Siddle has taken so many wickets for the Stars and

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Speaker 1: has been here at the desk a number of times

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Speaker 1: across the course of this year. So he will join

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Speaker 1: us ahead of the game in Hobart and then Joy Richardson.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned, he's been brilliant for the Scorches, particularly

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Speaker 1: in that back end of the tournament and particularly on

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Speaker 1: Saturday night with four wickets of speed to help the

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Speaker 1: Scorches secure top spot.

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Speaker 3: On the table.

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Speaker 1: So two big name guests to join us on the

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Speaker 1: surge today. But what I thought I'd do is actually

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Speaker 1: just go through what the final series looks like, almost

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Speaker 1: like the calendar of events this week starting Tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night in Perth as the Scorches host the Sixers.

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Speaker 1: It was an amazing finish to the home and away

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Speaker 1: after they beat the Heat on Sunday night at the Gabba.

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Speaker 1: So they really propelled themselves not only into finals, but

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Speaker 1: into a double chance situation. So the Sixers, that was

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Speaker 1: the Gabba. And then so that's Tuesday night and then

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night we've got the Hurricanes and the Stars. So

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Speaker 1: the Hurricanes almost totally botched it up with that dramatic

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Speaker 1: they were also going to miss miss out on having

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Speaker 1: the way it played out, they finished third and they'll

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Speaker 1: play the Stars who finished fourth. The Melbourne Stars for

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Speaker 1: most of the first half of the season were on

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Speaker 1: Scorches and Sixes Tuesday night, the Hurricanes and Stars on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night, the qualified Tuesday night, the knockout Wednesday night,

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Speaker 1: and then on Friday night, as you can see there,

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Speaker 1: loser of the qualifiers, So the loser of the Scorches

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Speaker 1: Sixers have been the best two teams in BBL history,

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Speaker 1: and they've finished one and two on the table. Of course,

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Speaker 3: But they've never won a title.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like we've got great storylines

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Speaker 1: Now we're through all of our home and away games,

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Speaker 1: and I can confirm that the BKT Goldenbat goes to

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Speaker 1: David Warner, who's scored four hundred and thirty three runs

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Speaker 1: So that sort of gets through all the preliminaries. Now

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Speaker 1: we'll be involved in this year's final series, and we'll

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Speaker 1: start with the star, Peter Siddle.

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Speaker 2: Twelve wickets this season, Pete Siddle, Oh class could be

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Speaker 1: And Peter Siddle does join us on the surge as

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Speaker 3: Pete, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: It cheers, guys, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Now I've got to ask you straight up, are you ready?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I think like I was saying to you earlier,

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Speaker 4: you know, playing good cricket and making finals. Obviously you

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Speaker 4: Like I said, finals time, everyone's ready for it and

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Speaker 1: What about you, that forty one year old body, you've

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Speaker 1: Take us back to last Saturday night because all not

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Speaker 1: there was an advantage for you if you were to

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Speaker 2: I think, like I said, we wanted to make it.

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Speaker 1: Does it help that you beat the Hurricanes earlier in

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Speaker 1: It's obvious that there's such a dangerous team with a

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Speaker 1: Based on what you've done all year, but particularly on

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Speaker 2: You have to execute and be consistent.

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Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, we'll have plans for individuals and

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Speaker 1: getting back to his best.

441
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 3: You've talked about how he.

442
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: Came out a little bit earlier this year and he

443
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Speaker 1: almost gave him his own little sort of mini pre season.

444
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 3: We've seen him back to his absolute best.

445
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: And the feeling is that he's got to play well

446
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,360
Speaker 1: for you guys to be able to hold that trophy

447
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,439
Speaker 1: a loft on Sunday night. But do you feel a

448
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 1: bit of personal satisfaction of the investment you've had Tom.

449
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

450
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 3: I think yeah.

451
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 4: Just been able to be a part of it and

452
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 4: help out and get the group buzzing, and the role

453
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 4: he's play has been superb. That to bowl to up

454
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 4: front most games and have the impact that he has

455
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 4: is it's been our standing and it's gone a long

456
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 4: way to us winning a lot of those games is

457
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Speaker 4: you know, him taking early wickets massive for us.

458
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 2: It puts a lot of pressure on the opposition from.

459
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Speaker 4: The word go, and yeah, hopefully that's all we hope

460
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 4: and for again on Wednesday night. But yeah, he can

461
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 4: do the same thing he's done for us all season.

462
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think him the preparation that he's put

463
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 4: in the way he's got about it and the and

464
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 4: the cricket that he's played for us shows why, you

465
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 4: know why we initially recruited him, but why he's been

466
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 4: one of the.

467
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: Best around to play that role.

468
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 4: It's a thankless role sometimes, you know, it's just having

469
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 4: a bowl, a couple overs up front, which can go crazy,

470
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 4: and even with batting, having a bat at seven or

471
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 4: eight and slog a few with not many balls, it's

472
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 4: a it's a hard task, but yeah, he does it superbly.

473
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: And yeah, I.

474
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 4: Think if we yeah for us to win, he's going

475
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: to He's going to play some big games for us

476
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 4: and play a big role. So he's been in fine form.

477
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 4: And yeah, I've loved loved bowl at the other end

478
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 4: with him and loved having him on my team as

479
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 4: a teammate because he's a he's a true competitor.

480
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Speaker 1: Now our next guest on the surge is Joy Richardson,

481
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: so we're going to get the green perspective and then

482
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: we're going to get the orange perspective from another fast bowler.

483
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 1: He had to face him the other night on a

484
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Speaker 1: hat tree. Now you've got a hat trick on your birthday.

485
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: I'm shure over in the world knows that in test career.

486
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: What was it like to face a hat trick in

487
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: the in the Cauldron of Perth stating with Joe Richardson

488
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: coming in bowling rockets.

489
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 2: It was interesting.

490
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, it's very rare that I have to

491
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 4: bat at eleven in a big batch game, let alone

492
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 4: going out to the face of hat trick ball, so I

493
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,239
Speaker 4: pretty much knew where the ball was going to be.

494
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, if i'm bowling this, I'm bowling and

495
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 4: fast fall and straight That's what I'm going for. So

496
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 4: if you had a bowld to my up around my

497
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 4: ribs and head, that was probably in a lot of

498
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: trouble because I was I was expecting it to be

499
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 4: full at the stump, so I wouldn't have been in

500
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 4: a position for it. But yeah, thankfully kept it out. Yeah,

501
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 4: that's as it's always nervous going out to the face of

502
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: hat trick ball. You don't want to be a part

503
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 4: of it, especially the last one. The last one always

504
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 4: seems worse than the first two. Don't really worry too

505
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 4: much about it, but the last one you don't want

506
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 4: to be that. But yeah, he bolt superbly, he put

507
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: us under a lot of pressure and yeah, probably you

508
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 4: know he was the difference in that game in the

509
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 4: first half.

510
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: Anyway, Well, you're.

511
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 3: Going to have to do it the hard way.

512
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 1: You've got a winning Hobart and then either winning Perth

513
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: or Sydney and then win neither Perth or Sydney after

514
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 1: that as well.

515
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 3: But you did go on a great run at.

516
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: The start of this year's tournament, so everyone knows what

517
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: you're capable of doing. All the very best over the

518
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: next week and let's see whether the Stars can finally

519
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: win it.

520
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: Cheers White. Yeah, it should be good fun. It'll make

521
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: for a good story anyway, if we get the job done.

522
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 4: It'll be amazing run.

523
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, fingers crossed and let's go green.

524
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely so the knockout on Wednesday night the Hurricanes and

525
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: the Stars from Ninja Stadium.

526
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: So that's Peter Settle talking about the stars.

527
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: Next we will head over to the West and Jay Richardson,

528
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: Australian Test bowler and also one of the stars from

529
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Speaker 1: the Scorches, will join us on the search.

530
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: Straight up, can they get Richardson? He's on the trip.

531
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: And welcome back to the Surge.

532
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: We have got Ji Richardson with us over in Perth,

533
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: Gays being flying at the moment. He's played Test cricket

534
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: on Boxing Day, four wickets for the Scorches on Saturday

535
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: night to secure top spot and he's with us now.

536
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: Gi things are going very nicely for you just at

537
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: the moment.

538
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's taking a turn over the last week or so,

539
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: which is nice. Probably haven't had the performances that I

540
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,479
Speaker 2: would have liked in the Big Bash coming back in

541
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean it's nice to get one out

542
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 2: of the way. It's nice and it's a bit of

543
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: a relief to get a good performance on the board.

544
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: You can look at it the other way as well.

545
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: There's only what maybe less than two months ago that

546
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: you were just coming back from serious shoulder injury playing

547
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: club cricket to play on Boxing Day and now to

548
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: play in the final series in the BBL.

549
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: It's a lot's happening in a short period of time.

550
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, things have happened pretty quickly, and I think it's

551
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: a good reminder that, you know, when performances haven't necessarily

552
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: gone my way, Preparations looked very different compared to you know,

553
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 2: previous years. Obviously I've had injuries previous years, but I've

554
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: had a decent run into certain competitions, whereas things happen

555
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 2: really really quickly. So it's taken a little bit of

556
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 2: time to get back into the swing of things. But

557
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: now I'm sort of raring to go and feeling confident

558
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: with your bowling again. So it's been really nice.

559
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: What have you learned about yourself and maybe your shelter,

560
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: but particularly yourself over the last twelve months.

561
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 2: I think just you know, trying to have that you know,

562
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: mental resilience. It's obviously really difficult when you you know,

563
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: stripped away from something that you love doing so much

564
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: and you've had a taste of you know, playing higher

565
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: honors and playing for Australia and then all of that

566
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: gets ripped away pretty quickly and consistently, and not being

567
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: able to have a consistent run at things It can

568
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: be really frustrating, and I think naturally, as human beings,

569
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: we always catastrophize a little bit, and you know, we

570
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: always sort of sort of think of the worst case scenario,

571
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: and that's natural when you have such a long period

572
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: of rehab, you're never really sure if you're going to

573
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 2: get back to where you were. You're never really sure

574
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: if your shoulder is going to be good or whatever

575
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 2: you have surgery on you never nothing's ever guaranteed when

576
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: you go under the knife. So yeah, I mean just

577
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: have to keep remembering to be proud of myself of

578
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: you know, the last twelve months and getting back to

579
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: playing cricket at a high level. But yeah, there's no

580
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: doubt it can be frustrating and pretty draining at times.

581
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: You've had issues with your shoulder before, but this time

582
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: round was it. You never get to a point where

583
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: you thought you might not have been able to get

584
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: back because this time it felt maybe a little bit

585
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: more serious.

586
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think my shoulder was always functional from a

587
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 2: bowling point of view. I know it was it was

588
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 2: obviously not stable, but bowling was never really the issue.

589
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: It was throwing and diving, you know, and obviously high

590
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: fiving all jokes aside getting into that position. I don't

591
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: think it was any more serious as the first time.

592
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: I think it was. It basically just presented itself as

593
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: this needs some sort of intervention. We could probably go

594
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: the route of leaving it and just seeing how we go,

595
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: knowing that there's probably one hundred percent chance of it

596
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: coming back out again, and what that looks like in

597
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: a Test match. You know, if it gets to a

598
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 2: point where it comes out again and I can't come

599
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: back on the field. There's been a few times where

600
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: it has come out and I have been able to

601
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: get back on you know, that's pretty detrimental, especially if

602
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: you're playing over five days, and you'd be pretty detrimental

603
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: on the other fast ballers as well. So I wouldn't

604
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: say from an actual biology point of view it was

605
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: any more serious. It basically just presented itself as something

606
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: needed to something needed to be done. It wasn't It

607
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: wasn't in a position to you know, for people to

608
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: feel confident going into games knowing that you know, there

609
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: might not be an issue. So basically trying to mitigate

610
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: some of the risk with this shoulder.

611
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: And what about from a mental point of view just

612
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: the I guess the mental fatigue to keep having to

613
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: come back and to go again. I mean, I can't

614
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: imagine how frustrating that would be and how draining would

615
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: be to keep putting yourself through that kind of rehab

616
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: to to get yourself back bowling, like we all know

617
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: that you can bowl.

618
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first couple of times were really frustrating because

619
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: I was sort of flying, I was going really well,

620
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: felt really good with my body, and then obviously that

621
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: first incident in the Uaa at Shahjah, just you know,

622
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: all that got ripped away really quickly. And I was

623
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: quite naive early on because there was a World Cup

624
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: coming up as well, so I was like, you know,

625
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: it'll be fine. We've got eight weeks of the World Cup.

626
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: I'll be fine, and was very naive in the sense

627
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: I didn't really understand how serious it was until we

628
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: were a week before flying out to the World Cup

629
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: and I could hardly bowl a couple of steps. So, yeah,

630
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: it is frustrating and it has been a long process.

631
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: But this time around, I think the difference was that

632
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: I think, regardless it was the last crack at it,

633
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: I think, you know, I've said in the media before,

634
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: I think I would have regretted it more not knowing

635
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: if surgery would work this time around, I think I

636
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: would regret not knowing what could have been. I think

637
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: if we left it and then I finished my career

638
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: and go cheez. I wonder if I had that surgery.

639
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: I wonder if any things would have been different. I

640
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: wonder how it would have pulled up. I wonder if

641
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: my throne would have got back that sort of thing.

642
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: So now I've done it, it's a case of getting

643
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: it to the best possible position we can get it

644
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: to and whatever is, whatever that looks like, is what

645
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 2: it is. We've given it a red hot crack and

646
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: you know, that's all we can ask for.

647
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: Really, how much confidence did it give you the fact

648
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 1: that you got back into that Test team for Boxing day?

649
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 3: It felt like it all happened really really quickly.

650
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: But to be able to not so much just get

651
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: back there and play, but have the confidence of the

652
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: Australian selectors to know that you're still very much part

653
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: of the current and future plans, just for your own

654
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: disposition as much as as for your cricket that yep,

655
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: it's still it's all systems go still yeah.

656
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: I think the biggest one for me was actually, you know,

657
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: the faith that Cricket Australia has shown in me, and

658
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: you know, I haven't really had to run at it

659
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: at all over the last few years and they've really

660
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, reassured me that they value me as a cricketer,

661
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: which is really really nice. And we had a plan

662
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: twelve months ago. We had surgery on January thirteen, twenty twenty.

663
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: Five, yep.

664
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: And the plan was always to get back for the

665
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: back end of the ashes. That was what we set

666
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 2: in place where we're like, we if we can get

667
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: back there, then we think this is a fantastic result.

668
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: And for that plan to come to fruition, albeit being

669
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: completely honest, I think everyone expected me to be a

670
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: little bit underdone and I probably felt a little bit underdone.

671
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: But to actually get back there have that plan come

672
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: to fruition is the biggest one for me and the

673
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: biggest settler for me, because you know, we spoke about

674
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: that for a long time, myself in Cricket Australia and

675
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: all the Triple the SAM staff. We wanted that as

676
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: the plan and you know, when when plans come off,

677
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: it's always nice so yeah, that was that was an

678
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: awesome feeling.

679
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: Now, I've been watching this speak as you've gone through

680
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: the summer, and the numbers just keep getting that little

681
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: bit higher and a little bit higher. If you've been

682
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: noticing it as well, is it something that you're kind

683
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: of watching as a bit of a barometer as to

684
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: how the shoulder's going and how your recovery continues.

685
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we're slowly starting to creep up to

686
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: what I expect from myself. I've got high expectations and

687
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: high standards that I set for myself, and you know,

688
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: I want to be up above that one forty mark,

689
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: and to see a few pop up above that one

690
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: forty is you know, it's a good feeling to know

691
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: that things are slowly getting there. I mean, there's a

692
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: long process with the shoulder in the first twelve months

693
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: where it's all about getting the range back, making sure

694
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: it's stable, and then the process doesn't actually stop there.

695
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: You know, we've discussed around the plan and how we

696
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: want to go about it in the next six to

697
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: twelve months, and there's a lot of you know, emphasis

698
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: on how my shoulder can create power quickly. You know,

699
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: there's a difference between strength and stability and then actually

700
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: being able to create that power at a rapid rate.

701
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: So that'll be the focus over the next six months.

702
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: Is you know, another lot of rehab. I guess you

703
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: could say all bit a part of competition. You know

704
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: that the shoulder stuff doesn't stop. It's not like you

705
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: go through twelve months and then your rehab suddenly stops.

706
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: There's still some key areas that we can focus on,

707
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: so that'll be the next part of it, and making

708
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: sure that I can get my bull speed as good

709
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: as I can.

710
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: So, Judie, do you have to reteach your body to

711
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: bowl and to bowl fast? Or were you able to

712
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: just get straight back and the action was the same

713
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: as it was before the surgery.

714
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't know that you can get into some funny

715
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: little habits when you have a bowled for a while,

716
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: things that creep in that you never really thought about before.

717
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: So it's more just about refining. It's not like you

718
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: forget how to bowl, and you know your action is

719
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: obviously somewhat natural to you, so that that wasn't the

720
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: difficult thing. It's sort of these little little things that

721
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: creep in that you just have to refine. So bowling, Yeah,

722
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: it took a while. It was pretty sore for once

723
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: we started bowling. It was pretty sore for the first

724
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: few months at least. And it's not until you actually

725
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: get back into a competitive environment. You go and play

726
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: some club games, you go and play you know, center

727
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: wicket or CA eleven or whatever it was, when you're

728
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: actually in competition thinking about your execution rather than what

729
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 2: your shoulders doing. Is that's kind of when you forget

730
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 2: about your body and you just try and your pace

731
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: naturally creeps up a little bit more and your shoulder

732
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: sort of naturally lets go a little bit. I think

733
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: when you're in the nets, either bowling to no one

734
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: or bowling to batters or whatever it is, in a

735
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: rehab setting, you're thinking about what your shoulders doing, You're

736
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 2: thinking about your pace, you're thinking about this, that and

737
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: the other, and you're not necessarily thinking about how to

738
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: be competitive. So I think it's definitely the key is

739
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: definitely to get into a competitive environment and play games.

740
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: And that's sort of when your body starts to teach

741
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: itself again to okay, well I can let go here

742
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: and I don't have to be so protective.

743
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 3: I've talked.

744
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: I've spoken two sprinters, and they've often spoken about if

745
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: you try and run fast, you often run slow. Is

746
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: it a bit the same from a fast bowling point

747
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: of view that if you try and bowl fast and

748
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: try and get that gun back up over one one

749
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: forty five, which are numbers that are very familiar with you,

750
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: that sometimes it actually doesn't come out as fast as

751
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: as it should.

752
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think so, because you know, the reality is

753
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: when you're trying so hard, you're you know that everyone

754
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: speaks about rhythm. Everyone speaks as a fastball, it's rhythm, rhythm, rhythm,

755
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: which is very similar to what you just said about

756
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 2: about the sprinters. It's, you know, making sure that biomechanically

757
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: everything's right. It's making sure that you know your body's

758
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: in the right position. You run up, you know, fluid

759
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: and all of that. I think when you start to

760
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: try and muscle it down, that's when you start to

761
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: get you know, you start to change things with your action.

762
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: You change things when you run up, You change things

763
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: that you haven't necessarily taught your body to do or

764
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: you haven't done a lot of So, yeah, things can

765
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: go backwards, I guess because you're trying to do something

766
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: that you haven't practiced. You're trying to muscle the ball down.

767
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's why we say that rhythm

768
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: is so because when you feel like you're in good rhythm,

769
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: then the ball was obviously. I think it's you know

770
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: you're in good rhythm when you're not trying to bowl

771
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: quickly and your ball was coming out quickly.

772
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and one last one on you're bowling that. We

773
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: think of yourself and Lances the two probably fastest bowlers

774
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: outside of Mitchell Stark in Australia and it's kind of like,

775
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the future of fast bowling here

776
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: in Australia.

777
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: And you and Lance.

778
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: You could probably put hell Vidler into that conversation as well.

779
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: Up in Queensland. Is do you find that as a pressure.

780
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: Or do you actually love the fact that you're spoken

781
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: about as being one of the fastest bowlers in the

782
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: country and that's your point of difference and a way

783
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: that you do play cricket for your country.

784
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

785
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: I think speed for me when I was young was

786
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: really important. I think now, you know, while it is

787
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: nice to bowl quickly, I think the reality is with

788
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: international cricket you need something else. I think you need

789
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: seem movement. I think you need swing. I think you

790
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: need something else that can go with the speed, because

791
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 2: I think you know that is now so good at

792
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: just picking up pace using the pace you know, someone

793
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: like just as an example, someone like Joe Root for example,

794
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 2: like with pace on the ball with now the instruction

795
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: of ramp shots, and you know how good he is

796
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: at gliding the ball through third man with pace on

797
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: I think you know you mentioned Starky as well. You

798
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: know he does have that swing, he does have that

799
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: scene movement, so he's also got another layer to that pace,

800
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: which I think is super super important. So that's one

801
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: area that I sort of that's the barometer for me.

802
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: I think if I'm swinging the ball, then I'm in

803
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: a good spot for me. It's not all about pace.

804
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: Need to be doing something else as well.

805
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: The scorch has had a big win on Saturday night

806
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: to secure top spot, falling in front of the parochial

807
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: home crowd. Just the the advantage you think you've got

808
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: not only in being able to win on Saturday night

809
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: against the Star, but as we start to look forward,

810
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 1: now you've got two guaranteed finals, whether that's a qualifier

811
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: and a grand final or potentially through the long way home,

812
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: you've got two finals from here at home.

813
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 2: I think home advantage is key for us. And also knowing,

814
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: you know, specifically that the Sixers have to fly from

815
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: Brizzie today to then play tomorrow in forty to go heat,

816
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: I think is also another advantage for us. Knowing that

817
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 2: we don't have to get on a plane is big

818
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: because flying from Perth is obviously it's quite a lengthy

819
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: flight no matter wherever you go. So yeah, that's an

820
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: advantage for us and our home crowd. We know how

821
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: loud they are, we know how opinion aid they are

822
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: out in the field. They like to give it to

823
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: the opposition and they like to support us, so yeah,

824
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: it's a massive advantage. I love playing in front of

825
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: our crowd. I mean, we had forty eight and a

826
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: half thousand people their last game hoping to get something similar,

827
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: albeit with the heat. But I mean, yeah, I think

828
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: it fills you with confident and straight at the top

829
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: of your mark, knowing that you've got forty to fifty

830
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: thousand people supporting you. Yeah, it definitely fills you with

831
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: another level of confidence and.

832
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: It's a different looking bowling attack this year. You've lost

833
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: a couple of year old mates, particularly Berendorf and also

834
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: Tie and then some of the youngsters that have come through,

835
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: not just fast ballers but at spinners as well. Have

836
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: you enjoyed a different looking attack to be part of

837
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: this year.

838
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 2: I think it's great. I think new faces brings new skills. Right.

839
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: You know, Marley, we know how good he's been on

840
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: a domestic level for WA We've seen his progression, but

841
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 2: I think even his progression in this Big Bash alone,

842
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: from the start of the year sort of being in

843
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: and out of the team to now securing his spot

844
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: and performing really well. I mean, yeah, it's a credit

845
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 2: to him. And you know Luke Holdt as well, getting

846
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: an opportunity with AGAs not being available, you know as well.

847
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: He loves it. He brings that sort of rookie energy

848
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: when guys sort of make their debut at a young age,

849
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: they're sort of little energizer bunnies and they lift the

850
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: team because all they want to do is be out there.

851
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 2: And we've seen it with him out in the field.

852
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: He's buzzing around out in the field, he's putting his

853
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: body on the line and he loves the celebration with runout,

854
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: catch wick it, whatever it may be. So it's good

855
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: to see these guys. And I think it's a credit

856
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: to our program as well, and the depth of our

857
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: squad and the depth of our younger players that we've

858
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: got in wa to be able to, you know, pull

859
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: them from you club cricket or domestic cricket or wherever

860
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: it is, and for them to come and play a

861
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: role in a really important one of that I think

862
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: is a credit to our setup.

863
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 3: That's via power the batting. It's so fun to watch.

864
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean, what Finalen's done through this tournament's been amazing.

865
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: But then you've got Mitch marsh and then you've got

866
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: Aaron Hardy. The list goes on, particularly when you've got

867
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: Lorie Evans coming in at six or seven.

868
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: What's it like to bowl to them in.

869
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: The nets or do you just say no, no, no, no, no,

870
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm staying well away from them.

871
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: That's too much actually a hazard.

872
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: It's actually the opposite. They're like, nah, may just sit down,

873
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: you know, you don't need a bowl here, which is good.

874
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: I can hurt them, so it's more you know for

875
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: us as well, it's it's difficult to get training training

876
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: balls in actually because you know, it's it's sort of

877
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: play fly, play recover. Yeah, so the coaches normally take

878
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: that role, but I'm sure they're as nervous as we

879
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 2: would be with the ball coming back at them twice

880
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: as quickly. But I think as well, just on Finn

881
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: the innings that he played the other night, we were

882
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: under pressure. We know that we lost a few wickets

883
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: early and one point thirty can be pretty tricky chase

884
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: at times, well you can make it tricky. And for

885
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: his development, you know, we saw last year he was,

886
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: you know, go from ball one no matter what, and

887
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: we knew that that was the way that he played,

888
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: and I think he's played. He played a very mature

889
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: innings the other night, and it was funny all the

890
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 2: boys jokes. We sort of get together and debrief and

891
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: do the team song and things like that, and the

892
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: boys were stoked the fact that they saw finale and

893
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: glide a ball to third man and get off strike

894
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: for one, you know, that was just a credit to him.

895
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: I know it doesn't sound like much, but we probably

896
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 2: wouldn't have seen that from him previously and for him

897
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 2: to bat through and almost get to the end, Yeah,

898
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: he's a credit to him. He's done an amazing job.

899
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: Particularly considering how he started his time at the Scorches

900
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: last year. A lot of people wouldn't have known how

901
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: good he was. And then he comes and starts so

902
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: poorly for the Scorches last year, and you think, who

903
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: have we got here?

904
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 3: Him?

905
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: To be able to turn it around the way he has.

906
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: I think he's a real credit to his character. Do

907
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: you sit there in the dugout at times and watch

908
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: some of the shots that he plays and think and

909
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: as you do that, and then also how would I

910
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: bowl to someone like that when he's playing like that?

911
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just creates power out of nothing, doesn't he.

912
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: You know, his his ability to the spin, to stay

913
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: on the back foot and hit the ball straight is unbelievable.

914
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: You know. We obviously know that he's strong and he's

915
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: got a lot of power, but the fact that he's

916
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 2: able to do it on a consistent basis is a

917
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: credit to him, you know. And it's very different as well.

918
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: You know, for him to play at optics we've seen

919
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: on our away trips, you know, where he can target

920
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: you know, the shortest straight boundaries or whatever it is.

921
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: But I mean Marvel, we know is long straight and

922
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 2: he was hitting balls off the back foot of ninety

923
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: ninety five meters, which is unbelievable, and then on the

924
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: flip side of that getting short balls that he's able

925
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: to pull ninety to ninety five meters over the long

926
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 2: boundary at optics. His adaptability is yeah, it's mind boggling,

927
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: and his power it's crazy. Certainly good to watch, especially

928
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: I know that we lost eight tosses in a row

929
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: and we've bad at first, but you know, the freedom

930
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 2: that that gives our batting lineup, it's cool to watch.

931
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. It's a good point.

932
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: Actually, the rivalry between you guys and the Sixers, it

933
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: goes back a long way. You've been the two most

934
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: successful teams. No one can argue that fact. But some

935
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: of the battles that you've had, and you've been part

936
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: of so many of them, what's that rivalry?

937
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: Like, I think it's just nice. We know that they're

938
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: obviously super successful and they have a very well From

939
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 2: the outside, it looks like they have a very similar

940
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: philosophy to us with their local players and things like that,

941
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 2: and you know, they've obviously been very good and we've

942
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: had a few tussles in the finals over the years.

943
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: It's always nice to beat them. We always know that

944
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 2: they're going to be a force to be reckoned with,

945
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: and I think with the players that they've had come

946
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: in in the latter stages of the of the year,

947
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: obviously creates a new challenge for us. But we know

948
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: how good we play at home. We know that teams

949
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: don't necessarily like traveling to Perth to play. I think

950
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: it's going to be a great battle. I think it's

951
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: going to be you know, we always love beating them,

952
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: and I can assure you that they would say the

953
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: same thing that we're probably on the top of their

954
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: list of teams to beat. So I think it's just

955
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: naturally when the two most successful clubs come up against

956
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 2: each other. It's almost that, you know, the I guess

957
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: the what would you say? It's almost like not the

958
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: rights to say that you're the best team, but it's

959
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, you always want to get one up on

960
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: each other.

961
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you've heard of this guy, but

962
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: there's a guy called Steve Smith who plays for the

963
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: six and SE's pretty good, and he's in really good

964
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: form at the moment, and then he does feel like

965
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: he's got a bit of a.

966
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: Point to prove. This could be a good battle, you

967
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 3: and him.

968
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: I think so. I think it'll be good. I think,

969
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, we know. I think he scored I don't

970
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: know what it was, but he scored a big score

971
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 2: against us last year at SCG. But just brings a

972
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: new challenge. I reckon he's obviously better than in test

973
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: match trigger, but I think the wicket might be slightly

974
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: different to what they get in test matches. Yeah, we'll

975
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: see which team adapts adapt quicker, whether Steve sort of.

976
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's going to be a

977
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: great battle. Hopefully we can get him out cheaply. But

978
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: you know, we know, we know how good he is.

979
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: Is he the hardest to bowl to just because of

980
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: his idiosyncrasies, Just how different he is, the way he

981
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: moves around the creese, the way he engineers the ball

982
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: into into unusual places. That does that make him know

983
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: that his average is that to speak to themselves, but

984
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: just the way he is at the crease, not to

985
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: be distracted with what he's doing and just focus on

986
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: what you're doing.

987
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: Is does that make it hard?

988
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't think it's the idiosyncrasies themselves that make

989
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 2: it difficult. I think when everything's on display, when I

990
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,959
Speaker 2: think Steve Smith is displaying everything and doing random things,

991
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: I think that's when you know he's in the contest.

992
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: And I think that is what's probably more intimidating than

993
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: the actual actions themselves. I think you know that he's

994
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: ready for the fight, he's ready to do everything, and

995
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: you know that he can hit the ball in strange areas.

996
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think it's necessarily the idio syncrasies themselves.

997
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: It's the fact that you know he's in the contest

998
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: when they're on display.

999
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: And then you and Mitchell Stark we're talking before about

1000
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: rivalries between the teams. Mitchell bowling one forty five at

1001
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: one end and you hopefully bowing one forty five from

1002
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: the same end but in different colors. Is that something

1003
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: that you kind of use as a bit of actual fear.

1004
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: Car potentially, But I think the reality is, you know,

1005
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: you have to concentrate on your own game. I think

1006
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: there will be an element on you know, let's say,

1007
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: if they ball first, it'll be interesting to see, you know,

1008
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: getting a couple of little ideas, whether or not you

1009
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: know he's swinging the ball, whether or not he's not

1010
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: swinging the ball, what the pitcher is doing. It's not

1011
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 2: so much about what he's doing on a personal level

1012
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: that will get me going. It's more about seeing, you know,

1013
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: what we can expect, you know, if they bowl first

1014
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: or be looking at if he's swinging the ball, if

1015
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: the ball is doing anything off the wicket. So I

1016
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: think we know if Stark is up and running, then

1017
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: he's swinging the ball nicely. Like he saw the other

1018
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: night as well, he was swinging the ball and got

1019
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: early wickets. So yeah, it's more about just seeing what

1020
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: happens generally rather than you know what Stark he's doing

1021
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: on a personal level, I guess.

1022
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: And just one final one on the scorches and just

1023
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: the success you've had, and I guess the culture it's

1024
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: often spoken about, not just with the scorches but with

1025
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: Western Australian cricket, going back to you know, the Langer

1026
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: led teams to Addam Voja's what what do you think

1027
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: make the scorches so special?

1028
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: Joh, I think we just play for each other. I

1029
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: think we're such a tight knit group. We obviously played together.

1030
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 2: A lot of us play together twelve months of the year,

1031
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: so we're very accustomed to each other's company. We know

1032
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: how each other play, and I think that's the beauty

1033
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: of this team is that we we know the roles

1034
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: of everyone. Everyone's very clear on their role, Everyone's very

1035
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: clear on how they want to go about it. And

1036
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: I think it's that shared accountability piece where you know,

1037
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 2: I know exactly how at is going to go about things.

1038
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: I know exactly how Mitch is going to go about things,

1039
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: so we can one hundred percent trust that there's no

1040
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: questions being asked. There's no questions around preparation, there's no

1041
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 2: questions around methods. It's complete trust in each other, which

1042
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: I think holds us in good stead no matter what happens.

1043
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: And you know, if there's no there's no sense of defeat.

1044
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 2: You know, if we have a you know, we get

1045
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: bold out for one twenty, we're going to We're going

1046
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: to back out our bowlers to give it a red

1047
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: hot crack. And on the flip side, if we you know,

1048
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: poorly with the ball or you know, we're going to

1049
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 2: back our batters to get it. There's just complete trust

1050
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 2: in one another.

1051
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: And then you've had nearly two hundred thousand fans turned

1052
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,959
Speaker 1: up to watch you play your home games this year.

1053
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: It feels like the fans they almost want to be

1054
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 1: as much a scorch of player, young kids as they

1055
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: grow up as they do actually wanting to play for Australia.

1056
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: That parochialism, that passion for the state, the passion for

1057
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: the scorches is is really quite palpable.

1058
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: It is, it truly is. It's incredible, you know. I mean,

1059
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: the fans that we have, they're so supportive. We certainly

1060
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: know when we're doing poorly, but equally we know when

1061
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: we're doing really well. So I was driving home the

1062
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: other night from the game, and you know, you've got

1063
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: the mattagoat Bridge all lit up in orange. You've got

1064
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: the new Bridge over the other side of the city

1065
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: which was lit up orange. You've got the Whacker lit

1066
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 2: up orange. Op. This was all orange. And I said

1067
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 2: to my fiance at the time when we were driving home,

1068
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: I said, this is such an awesome feel of community.

1069
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: You know, you're driving home and you're seeing the whole

1070
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: city lit up in orange to support us and It's

1071
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: just it's an incredible feeling knowing that your state backs you.

1072
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: And yeah, it was. It gave me goosebumps. It was.

1073
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: It was really cool. It was really really cool.

1074
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great insight, great insight. Now, I just spoke

1075
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: to Peter Siddle before on the Surgeon. You spoke about

1076
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: having to go out and face you on a on

1077
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: a hat trick bowl the other night, and he knows

1078
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: what it's like to take.

1079
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 3: A hat trick in test cricket.

1080
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: He was just waiting for that yorker from you. He

1081
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: just knew that you were going to bowl falling straight.

1082
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: If you had your time again, what have you served

1083
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: up something different? Or you just would have bowled that

1084
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: one and maybe a bit quicker because it wasn't.

1085
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: Too far away. It was online.

1086
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look hindsight, it's wonderful. You could have gone

1087
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Speaker 2: or hit the top of off. It's probably the hardest

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Speaker 2: ball to hit, but I think you know, I backed

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Speaker 2: my skills to hit a yorker. Unfortunately it didn't come

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Speaker 2: off a little bit too full. But if I hit

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Speaker 2: the mark, then I know that it's still a different

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Speaker 2: good ball to face, And I think, you know, we

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Speaker 2: speak about confidence and backing your skills, and I wanted

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Speaker 2: to back my skill and bowl Yorker. I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: equally as good as the patrick would have been and

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Speaker 2: the wicket would have been. I still think, you know,

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Speaker 2: dot balls are invaluable in T twenty cricket, So the

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Speaker 2: fact that it's still a dot ball, yeah, still happy,

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Speaker 2: but time again hindsight is wonderful, but I think New

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Speaker 2: York is the player well.

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Speaker 1: Joe, thank you so much for spending some time with

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Speaker 1: us on the surge today. Great insights into your recovery.

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Speaker 1: I think there's so many people, just cricket fans around

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Speaker 1: Australia that are so thrilled that you're back in full

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Speaker 1: flight again, bowling like you've always bowled for your country

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Speaker 1: but also for your state and for the scorches. All

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Speaker 1: the best in the final series, and all the best

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Speaker 1: for hopefully what will be a really busy next couple

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Speaker 1: of years playing for your country.

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Speaker 3: It's just great to have you back.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Joe Richardson joining us on the Surge ahead

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Speaker 1: of what will hopefully be for him a big week.

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Speaker 1: So a special thanks to both Joe Richardson and also

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Speaker 1: Peter Siddle joining us on the surge as we look

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Speaker 1: ahead to the final series. So don't forget Tuesday night,

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Speaker 1: it's the big one over in the West, the Scorches

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Speaker 1: taking on the six is the winner straight through to

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night's Grand Final. Wednesday night in Hobart it is

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Speaker 1: the Hurricanes up against the Stars and we just have

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Speaker 1: to wait to see what happens after that, with a

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Speaker 1: game on Friday before that final on Sunday. Stap today

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Speaker 1: with everything on the BBL and WBBLR.

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Speaker 3: That's what you've got to get. You've got to get that.

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Speaker 1: You get all the news, all the stats, all the

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Speaker 1: information ahead of what shapes to be truly one of

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Speaker 1: the best final.

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Speaker 3: Series we have seen in BBL history. So until next time,

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Speaker 3: we'll catch you on the Surge.