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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the

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Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.

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Speaker 2: Now, the first one is intention, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: just so important that we actually work out what our

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Speaker 2: intention is, what are we actually hoping to get out

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Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mum

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 4: This is doctor Justin Colson, the author of six books

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Speaker 4: about raising happy families. Here with Kylie, my wife and

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Speaker 2: So today I thought that we might tackle something that

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Speaker 2: you and I actually struggle with a fair bit. Well, actually,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to push this all onto you. This is

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Speaker 2: something you struggle with a lot. I really made some

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Speaker 4: A little bit attacked here. I'm feeling a little bit threatened.

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Speaker 4: Are you saying that? I don't say knowing that I'm

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Speaker 4: not intentional.

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Speaker 2: There is a little quote that you use a lot

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Speaker 3: All right, so there's a little bit of history here.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know you're going to go there.

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Speaker 4: So basically, years and years and years ago, I was

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Speaker 4: goofing off and coming up with kind of like a

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Speaker 4: And the first one was always bought off more than

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Speaker 2: I actually loved that about you because we have achieved

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Speaker 2: things that we would never have achieved if you hadn't

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Speaker 4: It makes life exciting when you just say yes to everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also quite exhausting.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 4: It reminds me of a really really I think clever

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Speaker 3: I never get enough sleep. I stay up late at

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Speaker 3: night because I'm Nate guy. Nate guy wants to stay

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Speaker 3: You're exhausting, gluggy. I hate that Nate guy. It's a

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Speaker 3: obously often enough so that dead guy loses a job

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Speaker 2: Oh, you were so a Nika. But it's even weekend guy,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you bought it more than you can chew,

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Speaker 4: I was trying to be noble. And I stuffed a

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Speaker 3: I can do it in one. When I pulled the washing.

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Speaker 2: Nay Moum that's listening right now knows where this is going.

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Speaker 4: I think I deserve points for trying anyway. So I've

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Speaker 4: And there's all of this fuzz all over the washing,

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Speaker 4: I'm staring at the Harvey Norman Electrical Appliance Catalog, thinking,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like the refrigerator when it's too full,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't keep everything cold. You things go off so

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Speaker 2: much faster. Our lives are exactly like that.

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Speaker 3: Don't try to cram too much in.

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Speaker 4: So what we want to do as we finish the

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Speaker 4: psychoanalysis of Justin Coilson and his desire to do all

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Speaker 4: talk to about how we can create more margin in

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Speaker 1: We'll do that right after the brain It's the Happy

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Speaker 1: Families Podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the Happy Families Podcast. The podcast for the time

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Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers now and today doctor

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Speaker 2: Justin is looking for answers to create more margin in

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Speaker 2: his life.

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Speaker 4: Well, I clearly have no idea how to create breathing space.

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Speaker 4: My life motto, like I said, is always bought up

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Speaker 2: the poor thing, is weighed down by piles, and the

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Speaker 2: most piles spill over onto the carpet because you can't

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Speaker 4: At the same time, we're trying to binge watch a

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Speaker 4: new Netflix series that we've really enjoyed, and we can't.

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Speaker 3: It makes me feel really bad.

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Speaker 2: Here Netflix is there so you can and you can

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Speaker 3: That's right. I have no restraint. I have no restraint.

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Speaker 4: When the Tour de France is on, I become night

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Speaker 3: And function. Are you sure you.

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Speaker 2: Didn't have a conversation with Jerry before he did that skit?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he's talking about you, all right?

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Speaker 4: So how do we create margin missus happy families? Because

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Speaker 2: Look, I think there's three things that will really really

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Speaker 2: The first one is intention, and I think it's just

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Speaker 2: so important that we actually work out what our intention is.

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Speaker 4: If everything, literally I want to get everything out of life.

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Speaker 2: We can't be good at everything and we can't do everything,

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Speaker 4: Hang on, I just want to I want to drill

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Speaker 4: a quote from Steve and Urcovey in his book Seven

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Speaker 4: Habits of Highly Effective People where he says, the things

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Speaker 2: I love that, and I love it because it's so

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or just the need to watch Netflix. I'm sitting

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Speaker 3: That's the truth of it.

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Speaker 4: We shouldn't have stayed up late last night watching that show,

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Speaker 4: But I was acting without intention. I wasn't keeping the

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Speaker 4: watching Netflix. No keeping the main thing the main thing.

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Speaker 4: That's the main thing is to keep the main thing

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Speaker 4: the main thing is and then live according to it.

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Speaker 4: This is actually a really great wake up call, and

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Speaker 4: I think that we do need to change the way

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Speaker 3: And the fact that I'm trying to do it all.

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Speaker 2: So intention it's all about self control, right, It's all

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Speaker 2: I think I'm putting this episode on a repeat, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The last one is learning to say no. And

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Speaker 3: Really really great tips and it came from you, missus

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