WEBVTT - Foster Girlfriend, Dickmatized and Kittenfishing - Talking modern day dating terminologies

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Laura and I'm Brittany.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I saw today before we got

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<v Speaker 2>started on this episode?

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<v Speaker 1>What I could I only imagine. I saw a meme,

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<v Speaker 1>A memy. I love a memey.

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<v Speaker 2>So the meme said the kids these days when we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the nineties, it's like when we were kids

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<v Speaker 2>and people would talk about the sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>And that makes me feel physically real.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it reminded me that I've got back pain

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<v Speaker 2>and everything sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, do you want to know something funny? Jordan was

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<v Speaker 1>born in nineteen ninety four. Fucking now, that makes me

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<v Speaker 1>feel squeamish. Okay, So for anyone who's listening, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of decide where you sit on the scale

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<v Speaker 1>of years. I'm eighty six, what are you bred? Eighty five?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoayoven eighty seven? Other way? Oh my goodness, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you age me. It was just a real eye

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<v Speaker 1>open ert. You know, every so often I see these things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like all those little whipper snappers out there talking

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<v Speaker 1>about us with our skinny leg jeans. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>go into the waiting room when I'm working in the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital to call patient out, and you're always walking out.

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking at the referral as you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>the patient. You're looking at the name, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the date of birth. And I always used to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety, they're going to be a kid. And I

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<v Speaker 1>would look around for the child, and then a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>year older stand up and I was like whoa. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like whoa, It's like, how old am I? Kids?

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<v Speaker 2>These days, we've got really great diets. Actually, speaking of that,

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<v Speaker 2>my child does not have a great diet. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody who has children survive Easter and the sugar

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<v Speaker 2>cracked in That was those three days that we just

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<v Speaker 2>got through.

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<v Speaker 1>Did your kids go crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not Lola, I mean she wasn't thrik chocolate milkshakes

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<v Speaker 2>or anything. But we did a chocolate Easter egg hunt

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<v Speaker 2>for Mali. The kid is still off her kids wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I live alone. I didn't do an East Ring hunt

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<v Speaker 1>for myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I just say the chocolate and can we just like say,

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany is still recovering. I know if you guys listen

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<v Speaker 2>to las week's episode, like brit has been so sick

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<v Speaker 2>and she's only.

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<v Speaker 1>Just on the way up. Now. I know that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing stories and stuff on the grand because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so bored. I've been in isolation for about two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I sound better and I probably look a lot better,

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<v Speaker 1>but inside and my soul is still crush. Like my

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<v Speaker 1>soul is still recovering. There's been a long couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>But I never I never know what day to eat

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate on over East, So like there's this four day

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<v Speaker 1>long weekend and I never know which is Yes, I do,

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<v Speaker 1>so I just start, like to be fair and to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I've got it covered, I start on the

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<v Speaker 1>Friday and I finish on the Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's for as long as there's double

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<v Speaker 2>demerit points. So whenever the double demerits points are going,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when you eat chocolate. I like that, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that means it ends on Tuesday. It's fine, let's

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<v Speaker 2>stick with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, guys, because I have been so sick, I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how much Netflix, Amazon, Stan Binge, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have memberships for everything. Now is it a membership

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<v Speaker 1>I have, pawn, I have subscribing fans. I'm coming at

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<v Speaker 1>you with a recommendation to there's this really great video

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<v Speaker 1>I watch. It's called two Girls, One Cup, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am coming to you with the recommendation, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>not from porn Hub or red Tips. Sorry to disappoint you, Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that just what you do when you're sick, Just

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<v Speaker 2>stay home masturbate all day.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not have energy to masturbate. I had. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the energy to roll over. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>with my sickness was I had chronic fatigue. I have

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<v Speaker 1>been asleep longer than I have been awake. I would

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<v Speaker 1>wake up for twenty minutes and I'll be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>time for my nap, and not go back to bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I have discovered and this is a big call. I

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<v Speaker 1>have discovered the best series I have ever watched in

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<v Speaker 1>my existence. And I shook to the call that it's

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<v Speaker 1>taken me this long because it's not a new series.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a really big call. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna say. And if you say Bridgitton, no, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>In relation to this series, Bridgeton's a five, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a twelve. Wow you. I cannot suggest this more to you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on Amazon Prime, so I think that's why I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen it. I've never had Amazon. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what even is that? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Amazon Prime has got some good shows basically not sponsored either.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys like, we're not getting a plug from Amazon for

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<v Speaker 2>this if.

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<v Speaker 1>They want, Yeah, yeah, okay. The series is called This

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<v Speaker 1>is Us Now. I don't know if i'd never even

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<v Speaker 1>heard of him. Sherry has been telling me to watch

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<v Speaker 1>this for about probably about the best part of six months.

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<v Speaker 1>Her and Jay started watching it and we always like

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff. She came to me, She's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to start watching this immediately. It's the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever seen. And I was like, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>I just kept putting on the back burner. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the most emotive, well written, best storyline out of any

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<v Speaker 1>show on any channel that I have ever watched. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give you, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to watch a bit of an explanation about

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<v Speaker 2>what it actually is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to describe, and when you describe it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the best thing that's ever happened. But I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you no because watch it. I remember when Sherry

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<v Speaker 1>explained it to me. It's hard. It doesn't sell it,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't do it justice. I think the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of had me a little bit disinterested was when

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<v Speaker 1>I found out that the lead actress is Mandy Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>because the way that I think of Mandy Moore was

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant singer that tried to transition into acting quite early,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't feel like she nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you not remember A Walk to Remember? Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly I freaking love that movie. I've had plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>time for ma anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But she has nailed it. Her acting is brilliant. Every

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<v Speaker 1>single actor and actress in this show is brilliant. But

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<v Speaker 1>just to try and tell you what the show is,

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy Morrill and her husband Jack. They are a couple

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<v Speaker 1>that fall in love and they have children, They have triplets,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole show is set between flashing back to

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<v Speaker 1>their childhood, the kid's childhood and growing up and all

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<v Speaker 1>the problems that they have raising the kids, and flashing

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<v Speaker 1>forward to the present day when they're older. And the

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<v Speaker 1>storyline that they have written has you on the edge

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<v Speaker 1>of your seat and has your full attention from the

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<v Speaker 1>opening scene of the first episode and forever. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>six seasons. And this is the brilliant part because there

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<v Speaker 1>are so many seasons. It is the most emotive show

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever watched. Every episode, I'm crying, I'm laughing. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they're my family. And I think any show

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you feel like you never want that show

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<v Speaker 1>to end is worth watching. And I don't give you

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<v Speaker 1>these recommendations lightly, but please do yourself a favor and

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<v Speaker 1>start to watch this is because it is like life

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<v Speaker 1>changing and the best part about it, I'm obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>the father Jack. He is what every husband and father

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<v Speaker 1>should be. He's actually sort of ruined it for me

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<v Speaker 1>forever because if I don't find my Jack, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>well what am I doing in my life? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>need this person in my life. He's the character that

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<v Speaker 1>you just are obsessed with. But anyway, not a genre

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<v Speaker 1>is this like is it a drama? Is more a drama? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent? You will cry like I can't fault

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<v Speaker 1>the series. And also one of the kids when he

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<v Speaker 1>grows up, he's so fucking hot. Well actually both of them,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really fucking hot. But that's it. That's my recommendation.

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<v Speaker 1>Please do yourself a favor and start it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm going to come with you with a recommendation,

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<v Speaker 2>which this was not planned but since you are so

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<v Speaker 2>passionate about what was the name of it again, I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally this is us. This is us.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna watch it and then I'll come back

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll tell you how I feel. Yea one hundredercent

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<v Speaker 2>I have one for you. Okay, can you go and

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<v Speaker 2>watch Sea Spiracy? Definitely no drama. You'll probably cry.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't watch it because I'm too scared to stop

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<v Speaker 1>eating fish. I'm too scared of stop eating fish, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it will do to me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really love my fish.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there is a big conversation. Maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>can do an episode on this. Actually there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of information there. It's a lot to digest, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>obviously like a bit of a sea spiracy conspiracy if

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't seen it yet, it's of that sort of vein,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's talking about all the damage that we're doing

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<v Speaker 2>to our oceans, but also the damage that's caused by

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<v Speaker 2>the fishing industry and by by cat It's just got

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<v Speaker 2>some really crazy startling statistics.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Matt and I watched it the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can't say that I love the narrator. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the guy who was doing the journalism, like

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<v Speaker 2>the main character of the whole documentary. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>if I really loved like his presentation of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>the information in it is really really interesting and it

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<v Speaker 2>does make you question whether or not you'd eat fish. However,

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<v Speaker 2>it was easter and I ate some fish. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>not going to eat fish now?

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<v Speaker 1>Ugh? You know what, I'm not there yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we have meat, lots of meat free days, and

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<v Speaker 2>we also have fish free days in our household as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But it really brings to the forefront these issues around

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<v Speaker 2>sustainability and it makes you, it does definitely make you

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<v Speaker 2>question where things come from.

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<v Speaker 1>Make better choices about what you're purchasing. Yeah, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>the problem, that's the thing. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's this whole section on there about dolphins safe

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<v Speaker 2>and how dolphin safe isn't actually dolphin safe. They can't

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee it, and it's just the fishing company's paying off

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<v Speaker 2>the organization and the regulatory bodies. And it goes into

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<v Speaker 2>how corrupt the fishing industry is, but also how corrupt

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<v Speaker 2>where we purchase some fish from, so like nothing is

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<v Speaker 2>guaranteed as being safe and the damage that's doing to

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<v Speaker 2>the oceans is crazy, and how much of the pollution

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<v Speaker 2>and plastics that are going to the ocean are not

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<v Speaker 2>actually from us consuming but it's from the fishing industry.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it unpacks.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's us eating fish that's creating this deficit and

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<v Speaker 1>creating this issue. And it makes me think, like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do we eat If we can't eat meat, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>eat fish? Do we just eat vegetables? Like? Do we

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<v Speaker 1>Does the whole world turn vegan? Yes? I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's the solution. Do you think that's what David addenbros. Says?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have any more than two children eat vegan? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I could probably do the children part, but in

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<v Speaker 1>all honesty, I reckon I would eat I'm actually really

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<v Speaker 1>good with meat. I eat meat maybe twice a month,

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<v Speaker 1>big call, but I don't eat a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of my food is vegetarian and pescatarian. I will

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<v Speaker 1>admit I eat fe but I always try and buy

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<v Speaker 1>good fresh fish that I think has been sourced in

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<v Speaker 1>an ethical way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you need to watch c Spiritcy then, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably point way, is that you don't know what's

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<v Speaker 2>been so And I love salmon, but I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the take home message from all of these is like,

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<v Speaker 2>just reduce where you can. You don't have to stop

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<v Speaker 2>and eliminate something completely. If you want to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can do that, then that's amazing. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you can just make better choices, as in like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have meat free nights, have fish free nights, all that

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<v Speaker 2>is helpful. I don't think it's necessarily about changing every

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<v Speaker 2>single aspect of your life overnight and going cold Turkey.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you can make some better and more sustainable choices,

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<v Speaker 2>then that's kind of the ethos I took from the

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<v Speaker 2>Docku series. But it's on Netflix. It's really really interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and there have been a few things that have come

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<v Speaker 2>out that have kind of defunct some statistics around it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not going to go into like the nitty

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<v Speaker 2>gritty of it, but I got a lot out of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, and I think that, like, that's my recommendation

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<v Speaker 2>for today. Anyway, something else that I have read which

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to touch on before we got into like

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<v Speaker 2>the main core of this episode. Now, the main core

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<v Speaker 2>part of this episode is actually pretty lighthearted. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talking about dating terminology in twenty twenty. Oh my

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<v Speaker 2>God and I've we're twenty twenty two, twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, I forgot what you I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>What, twenty to twenty twenty two, I am sold to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in twenty twenty five, this is our dating technolo,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even know where. We're talking about dating terminology

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<v Speaker 1>today in twenty twenty one, and this is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of terminology that I had never heard of. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that you know and you can

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<v Speaker 1>explain and you talk about with your friends. You talk

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<v Speaker 1>about these situations that happened, but they never had a label.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to go through some of those main ones.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we get into that, we do want to

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<v Speaker 2>touch on something that's really important. It has just come

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<v Speaker 2>out of Victoria. Now this is really really huge, and

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<v Speaker 2>when I read this article in ABC News, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to discuss this in the podcast because

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<v Speaker 2>it's consent is something that we have spoken about in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of past episodes, especially the one that we

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<v Speaker 2>did with Ebony Saunders going back a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the woman that was harassed by the Tinder

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<v Speaker 1>guy in BONDI just for a little reference, for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we did a massive conversation in that around

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<v Speaker 2>consent and how consent is fluid. Now, this conversation that

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<v Speaker 2>we're about to have comes with a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>trigger warning because it does touch on sexual assault and

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<v Speaker 2>it does touch on sexual harassment. But Victoria has just

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<v Speaker 2>passed legislation where they're going to be making conversations around

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<v Speaker 2>consent part of the school curriculum for public schools.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is such a huge thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that this hasn't happened in schools earlier, or

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that it's not compulsory in every school in

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<v Speaker 2>every state is something that I think we should really

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<v Speaker 2>be having conversation about. But this change in legislation came

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<v Speaker 2>about because of a petition that was started by a

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<v Speaker 2>former Kombala student named Shantell Contos because she was sick

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<v Speaker 2>of constantly hearing about her friend's experiences of sexual abuse

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<v Speaker 2>within schools. So this conversation calls for a bigger focus

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<v Speaker 2>on consent and sexual education and also focuses on single

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<v Speaker 2>sex in private schools. So the petition that was started

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<v Speaker 2>has now had over thirty eight thousand signatures by people

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<v Speaker 2>who have been affected by sexual assault or sexual harassment

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<v Speaker 2>in schools, and it has over three thousand counts of

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<v Speaker 2>stories where students have actually shared what has happened to them.

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<v Speaker 2>And some of the stories on this ABC News article

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<v Speaker 2>are so freaking harrowing that we're not going to repeat

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<v Speaker 2>them on the podcast. We can put this article in

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<v Speaker 2>the show notes as well, if you guys want to

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<v Speaker 2>go and have a deep diataven a read. But to

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<v Speaker 2>think that this is what's been experienced by school students

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<v Speaker 2>is just absolutely despicable. And there's this real conversation around

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<v Speaker 2>we think that it's expected that people understand what consent

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<v Speaker 2>is and that it should just be human knowledge, but

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<v Speaker 2>there is such a gray area and the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>like it's been missing from our education and that we

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<v Speaker 2>do have sex ed but sex said, I mean, like

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<v Speaker 2>my experience of sex said at school, and Britt, tell

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<v Speaker 2>me what yours was, But that's a healthy herald totally.

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<v Speaker 2>The sex said that we experienced was don't get pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>pregnancy is bad, use a condom, put it on a banana. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the functionality about how to actually have

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<v Speaker 2>sex and like what the mechanics of it are. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's no conversation around how to keep yourself safe. There's

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<v Speaker 2>talk about STDs and like you'll get a crazy STD

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<v Speaker 2>and lots of stigma around STDs, but nothing around like

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<v Speaker 2>how two people should interact, how two people should respect

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<v Speaker 2>each other, and also what entails consent? And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that is the bigger and broader conversation that needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be brought to the table, and that's the changes that

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<v Speaker 2>the Victorian government is starting to instill.

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<v Speaker 1>I was absolutely disgusted when I was reading the stories

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<v Speaker 1>that all these young women wrote in and their experiences

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<v Speaker 1>that they were having in their schools, And like Laura said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually worth all of you going just even pull

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<v Speaker 1>up the ABC article and just how to look for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and have a read for yourself. But one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I did find really interesting when I started to research

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<v Speaker 1>this a bit more. I didn't actually know this, but

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<v Speaker 1>the schools do have a course that they do teach

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<v Speaker 1>that's called Respectful Relationships, So they have been on the

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<v Speaker 1>right path for a little while, but that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>touches more on sexuality and safety and respect I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain extent in a relationship, but they never

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<v Speaker 1>covered things like consent. So what they're doing with the consent.

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<v Speaker 1>The consent is going into the respect for a relationship's part.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is still only happening in Victoria. When you

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<v Speaker 1>hear of the statistics in Sydney are alone, it is astounding.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that a school girl started this petition

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<v Speaker 1>and got all these signatures and she's put this movement

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<v Speaker 1>forward because of something that has happened to her. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she's wise beyond her years, and good on her.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the thing that's scary though, is like,

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<v Speaker 2>why is it that a child who has experienced this

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<v Speaker 2>should be the one advocating for the change within schools Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to make the point as well, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is really important, and that is that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not the sole responsibility of the school, or

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<v Speaker 2>of teachers, or of the curriculum. This is something that

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<v Speaker 2>should be happening at home with parents, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation that parents should take main responsibility for. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think you can have an educational conversation

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<v Speaker 2>around sex without having consent as an integral part of

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation. We're talking about how to have sex, how

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<v Speaker 2>to stay safe when having sex, the functionality of sex.

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<v Speaker 2>Then consent needs to be a very big part of

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<v Speaker 2>that conversation. So that way nobody can ever say I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know, I wasn't sure. I thought that it was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought she wanted it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no ambiguity because we're all taught the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>and we're all on the same page. One quote that

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<v Speaker 1>summed this up perfectly, and it was written by a

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen year old student from Newcastle Grammar School about the

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<v Speaker 1>incidences that she faced in twenty nineteen, and she wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't understand that my inability to say no did

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<v Speaker 1>not mean yes, and that I didn't want it. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought this was so powerful and it's so important.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that we're teaching students that consent isn't just verbal,

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<v Speaker 1>that consent is also non verbal cues, and that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's so important. I e.

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<v Speaker 2>If someone's passed out, that is giving no consent. If

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<v Speaker 2>someone is crying but hasn't actually said no, that's saying

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<v Speaker 2>no consent.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the thing, isn't it? And it's this

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<v Speaker 1>saying is so true. Ignorance is bliss. If people aren't

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it, if your kids aren't coming home and

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<v Speaker 1>saying to you that this has happened to me and

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<v Speaker 1>I was violated or I felt uncomfortable. How are people

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to know? And conversely to that, what kid is

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<v Speaker 1>going to come home and be like, hey, mom and dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I had sex with a girl when she was passed down.

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<v Speaker 1>The conversations just weren't happening. So I don't think anyone

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<v Speaker 1>was aware. I definitely wasn't. I knew that it was prevalent,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, but I was gobsmacked at the level and

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<v Speaker 1>how many school aged females have come forward and said

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<v Speaker 1>that they have experienced this. So the ball is finally

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<v Speaker 1>rolling because people feel that they are in an environment

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<v Speaker 1>now that's safe enough to talk about their experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, let's move this past school for a second

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<v Speaker 2>and just like consent as a general conversation. I do

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<v Speaker 2>not know, and this is pretty bold statement, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do not have one friend who wouldn't say that they

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<v Speaker 2>have experienced sexual harassment. Like every single female I know

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<v Speaker 2>that I have spoken to about sexual harassment. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there are some who haven't, but every single female that

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<v Speaker 2>I have had these conversations with who I'm close enough

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<v Speaker 2>to have these conversations with, have experienced sexual harassment of

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<v Speaker 2>some form in their lifetime. So if we can all

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<v Speaker 2>sit here and say, yeah, a majority of people I

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<v Speaker 2>know have in some way experienced sexual harassment or sexual assault,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a huge problem here. That problem has been

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<v Speaker 2>glaringly obvious. And the fact that it had to take

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<v Speaker 2>a young student to actually start this petition is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that in itself is just so traumatic. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that there is some change of this happening,

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<v Speaker 2>and the change needs to happen a hell of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot faster, and it needs to be implemented not just

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<v Speaker 2>in public schools, but in private schools and in all states.

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<v Speaker 1>The last thing that I just did want to touch

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<v Speaker 1>on could because this really hit home with me, was

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<v Speaker 1>there was a student from Manly and she said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still furious that I was consistently told that I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have gone to an isolated location with a guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>had been my best friend. If I'm not meant to

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<v Speaker 1>spend time with just my best friend, what am I

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<v Speaker 1>meant to do now? The fact that this is happening

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<v Speaker 1>is one thing, but the fact that when this happens,

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<v Speaker 1>the blame is bypassing the person that has done it,

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<v Speaker 1>the bypassing this boy, bypassing the perpetrator, and being put

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<v Speaker 1>on the female because she should not have gone to

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<v Speaker 1>that location with a male. This is a whole another

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<v Speaker 1>core issue. You that a yes is happening. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with that, but we need to also deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that we're blaming the victim constantly. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just my blood is boiling and you guys like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>literally lost for words, and I've never lost for words.

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<v Speaker 1>So this was a really important conversation and we could

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it, and we will continue to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it because this conversation about consent is so important. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think if there's one thing that you take away

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<v Speaker 1>from this conversation, maybe you've heard about this and read

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<v Speaker 1>about it before, maybe you haven't. Either way, the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about consent and about this sexual harassment in schools, the

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<v Speaker 1>education system. It needs to start happening. So go away

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to your friends about it. Now, have the conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to your parents and talk to your kids. Just

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<v Speaker 1>make it so that this is what everyone is talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll link some of these articles as well in the

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<v Speaker 2>show notes, and we'll also try and link the petition

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<v Speaker 2>which you can sign to if you want to. The

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<v Speaker 2>one quote that I wanted to leave you guys with,

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<v Speaker 2>so Shintel Kontos was actually a former student at Kambala

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<v Speaker 2>and now one of the quotes that she left when

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<v Speaker 2>she actually started this petition was I have lived in

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<v Speaker 2>three different countries and I have never spoken to anyone

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<v Speaker 2>who's experienced rape culture the way me and my friends

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<v Speaker 2>had growing up in Sydney amongst private schools, And that

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<v Speaker 2>literally leaves chills. It's so heavy to think that this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation is not being had widely enough. And just like

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<v Speaker 2>brit said, like conversations around consent need to be had

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<v Speaker 2>at home, they need to be had with your friendship groups,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will keep having them on this podcast because

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<v Speaker 2>we think consent is such a hugely important topic. So

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<v Speaker 2>if this has upset anyone or touched on something very

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<v Speaker 2>sensitive to anybody, will also put some information in the

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<v Speaker 2>show notes for help that you know you can reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to if this is something that's triggered you. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we just will keep having these conversations as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, it is time for our favorite segment and

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<v Speaker 1>that is accidentally unfiltered. Essentially, we get you to write

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<v Speaker 1>in your most embarrassing stories and we read them out.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a good laugh at your expense, and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>feels that a little bit less alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we just laugh at you together as the supportive

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<v Speaker 2>community that we are here at Life Uncut. But you

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<v Speaker 2>always stay anonymous as well, so we will never shame you.

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<v Speaker 1>To go first, I have an awkward one. I actually had.

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<v Speaker 1>I swopped last minute. I had mine that was a

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<v Speaker 1>bit gross, but I was like, I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 1>ready for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we have received I'm just going to say this

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<v Speaker 2>before Brick gets into her received one that we have

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<v Speaker 2>received so many condom stories about people who have accidentally

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<v Speaker 2>lost a condom up inside them and then found it

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<v Speaker 2>days later.

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<v Speaker 1>So gross, just so so. Actually, one girl wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>on Easter. She was like, Hey, just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at the hospital now. My condom's fitting me for

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<v Speaker 1>two hours. And I was like, I love that you're

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<v Speaker 1>at the hospital getting condom fished out on Easter. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a sneaky Easter bang. That sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>great Easter you had, girlfriend, I just had chocolate. You win. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>We also had someone message us and say that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that they had a condom get lost inside

0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>them and several days later they sneezed and it fell out.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my favorite. I think she was doing. She

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<v Speaker 1>was like washing raumatized people. I am absolutely traumatized. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have in the last couple of weeks. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going on. You guys have really stepped

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<v Speaker 1>up the game. We have received so many embarrassing stories,

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<v Speaker 1>but stories that are so wildly gross, like just so

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<v Speaker 1>gross and too gross to tell on the podcast thinks

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<v Speaker 1>that some of you should take to the grave. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them and like, surely you know when you're

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<v Speaker 1>right there, Like we don't get me wrong, we still

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 1>appreciate them. Don't ever not write them to us. But

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<v Speaker 1>we were like, wow, like I would never.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us all but that we live for this, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know what we just I just want to say

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<v Speaker 2>how greatful I am that you trust us with your

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<v Speaker 2>Diva's darkest, most embarrassing stories. We will Some of them

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<v Speaker 2>are so embarrassing that we would never share them, but

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.640
<v Speaker 2>we appreciate that you want to share them with us,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you send it to us, you are not anonymous.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though we don't tell anyone else. So maybe we

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<v Speaker 2>can put all wild.

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<v Speaker 1>We can put all the crazy ones in one extra

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<v Speaker 1>bonus episode and they can come with their own trick warning. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>that's such a good idea that you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>tune into if you don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are wild. I'm here for this. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for making me feel more normal in all the shit

0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>that I have gone up to my life. Anyway, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>hit me with number one.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is something that I would do because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>technologically challenged, So I feel whose girl. A few years back,

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<v Speaker 1>I got an Apple Watch for Christmas, and when work

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<v Speaker 1>returned for the year, my supervisor, Heidi, had also received one.

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<v Speaker 1>We would constantly compare and chat about all the features

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<v Speaker 1>that it could do. Anyhow, a week or two later,

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<v Speaker 1>I was having a terrible day at work. I literally

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<v Speaker 1>hated life. So I took myself to the bathroom and

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<v Speaker 1>did what anyone would do. I sat on the toilet

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<v Speaker 1>and used the Apple Watch to text my best friend. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to text on an Apple Watch, you must use your

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<v Speaker 1>finger to draw every single letter that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>textpay time consuming. So well, that's what she said. I

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<v Speaker 1>sat there for twenty minutes spelling out the text that read,

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking hate my job. It is so soul sucking.

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<v Speaker 1>I am literally hiding in the toilet for the last

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes avoiding work, texting you from my Apple Watch

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<v Speaker 1>right now, just to avoid the drama. I hit send

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<v Speaker 1>and realized that it had gone to Heidi, my boss

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<v Speaker 1>that was sitting out in the office. I immediately got

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<v Speaker 1>a response from Heidi that said, um okay, question mark.

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<v Speaker 1>I went straight into damage control. I got off Alou

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<v Speaker 1>I sprinted under her office and I laughed it off

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<v Speaker 1>by saying, ha ha, how gross is that text? I

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<v Speaker 1>just forwarded you. My friend just sent it to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought you might find it funny. She didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh why but also like also the cover up of

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<v Speaker 1>like I forwarded you that text from my friend, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that you've tried to go into damage control,

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<v Speaker 1>but Hi, I do know it's exactly what you've done,

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<v Speaker 1>But what else would you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I mean, that's just like you've got nowhere else

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<v Speaker 2>to go either, you say, I just wasted twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of work company time pretending I was doing a pool

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 2>telling job. I was just telling my friends how much

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<v Speaker 2>you suck, Like where can you go with that?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't? You don't you go to Alaska? Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I also have a work related one, which is not

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<v Speaker 2>that one. I was worried that we were going to

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<v Speaker 2>choose the same one again today, but here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>I work in.

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<v Speaker 2>Development and I was just on a zoom call. I

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<v Speaker 2>like that this also just happened, and so she sent

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<v Speaker 2>it through to us. I was just on a zoom

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<v Speaker 2>call for a meeting to debate traffic numbers with the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Transport. I offered to share my screen to

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<v Speaker 2>show the report that our traffic engineer was discussing with

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<v Speaker 2>the state engineer. As the conversation got a bit heated

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<v Speaker 2>and things got a bit more boring and time passed on,

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<v Speaker 2>I gradually lost interest in this zoom conference call. I

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<v Speaker 2>decided I wanted to check out and see what the

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<v Speaker 2>state engineer look like, because he sounded young, and he

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<v Speaker 2>also sounded a bit hot, and he didn't have his

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<v Speaker 2>video on. So I commenced googling him, looking at images,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what he looked like. When my

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<v Speaker 2>client interrupts me and says, excuse me, who is googling?

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<v Speaker 1>She's giggling. I had just.

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<v Speaker 2>Stalked the state engineer with my screen share on in

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<v Speaker 2>the State engineer, my engineer, the boss, and the client

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<v Speaker 2>and at least three other state officers could see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I need to die. Do you know what's

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 1>so funny? Actually we had his writing about over zoom

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:43.919
<v Speaker 1>calls that they forget that they share their screen and

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<v Speaker 1>they just start like looking down their searcher history like

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<v Speaker 1>porn hum and stuff comes up and everyone can see

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:51.639
<v Speaker 1>that what was doing. I love that, But also imagine

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>if he is hot and she's hot, and then that's

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<v Speaker 1>such a great way to hook up and flirt. If

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<v Speaker 1>he sees it, she's googling him. So what if he's

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<v Speaker 1>like a sixty seven year old man that she says

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<v Speaker 1>young and I middle aged spread She said, he sounds

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<v Speaker 1>young and hot. Yeah, but just because someone sounds young

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<v Speaker 1>and hot doesn't mean they necessarily are. Yeah, we probably

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<v Speaker 1>found holy covered that up as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You could be like, oh sorry, I like to put

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<v Speaker 2>a face to the name of who I'm talking to.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes me feel more connected to the conversation. She's like

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Onto topless in Abitha. She's like in twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>on his Instagram just scrolling back through. At least she

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<v Speaker 1>googled him and didn't go onto Graham. Imagine if she

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Grammar started like, imagine if she went

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<v Speaker 1>into him and then you know what you would do?

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<v Speaker 1>You look at the exs and stuff. Imagine if she

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<v Speaker 1>was like in his ex's profile on Instagram and he

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<v Speaker 1>was watching. This is a level of so deep that

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<v Speaker 1>it really gets into the psyche of what Britney Hockley does.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I love that yesterday. This has happened

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<v Speaker 1>in my last two weeks. But like, sometimes I'm so deep,

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 1>you're like, uh, sorry, Jordan, I was talking your ex girlfriend.

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I accidentally liked to photo. I'm not twenty seventeen. I

0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>often get so deep. This happened yesterday that I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>how I got there. I was like, how did I

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<v Speaker 1>get to this person? I was like, because I went

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<v Speaker 1>into another page, into another page, internet page, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't understand my trail. I should have

0:25:57.160 --> 0:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>left bread crumbs.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden, you're on like your boyfriend's trainers, sisters,

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<v Speaker 2>mum's instrat I was like, tag, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm going here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lost Okay, I have one more and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I reckon, that's it for us and we can

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<v Speaker 2>get into our very lighthearted episode for you all today.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was back in my hometown swiping through Tinder

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<v Speaker 2>just to suss out who I knew was on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Really nothing serious, not even really looking to match anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a guy I know, and he came up.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I also know his wife, so I read

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<v Speaker 2>his bio and it said that they were both looking

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<v Speaker 2>for something casual, a third person to have in the bedroom. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the couple that owns the local gym and

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>they are personal trainers there. I know them both quite well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked and I turned to tell my sister

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<v Speaker 2>and in my shop, I accidentally swiped right.

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 1>But not only did I accidentally swipe right, I also

0:26:44.760 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>super liked them. Why don't you just send them a nude?

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Could you fucking imagine that?

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Like we've all seen the couples on Tinder that

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<v Speaker 2>are like, hey, this is me and my partner and

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 2>we're looking for a thropple, like, no, nothing against it, great,

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 2>per love that for them.

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<v Speaker 1>You do, you, but not when you have to go

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and sweat it out and work out with him at

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>the gym every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I imagine, yeah, Like, I mean, it's one thing to

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.400
<v Speaker 2>run into like someone you know on Tinder, other thing

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 2>to run into someone who is looking for a threason.

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<v Speaker 1>I would if they matched the probably did? I mean

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 1>she's fit. She goes to the video don't live your

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>best life, Live you true? Okay, so Laura's back from

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>breastfeeding Lola. We decided to have a quick little break.

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<v Speaker 2>We took a metaphorical break with the break music, but

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>then we also took a literal break whilst I went

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 2>in breastbed Lola.

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting because the studio is in Laura's bedroom. As

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, Laura got up from the studio desk and

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>shuffled down, calling at a studio like this professional. So

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>she gets she shuffles the one foot from the studio

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>desk to the bed, starts a breastfeed Lola, who I

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>fumbly call Lola Debbie, and and she's on one boob

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the other boom. Because I've never really just sat there

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and I don't like when my friend's breastfeit. I don't

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 1>stare at them, but I was staring at Laura's nipple

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 1>for some reason, and I was quite fascinated by it

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 1>because we're very very close guys, that is why. And

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 1>then we just started the other Niwporter side spurting out

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>milk and I was like, whoa, you're floating out the

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:11.680
<v Speaker 1>other one, and She's like, man, that happens.

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 2>So if anyone who doesn't have children, you wouldn't know this.

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 2>But when you feed from one side, the other side

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:21.040
<v Speaker 2>has what's called let down and it basically for.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Ten years in a different way.

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>It just lets down milk and the milk just squirts

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>out of the other side, and some people catch it

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>and put it in the freezer and keep it for

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:33.479
<v Speaker 2>a rainy day. I just like to black tat all

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 2>over my shirt in my bedroom and be free. Anyway,

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 2>we managed to get through the whole first half of

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>this episode with Paul Lola making a real racket outside

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the bedroom door and Matt was doing outside the bed door.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Matt has her out. We don't park her outside the

0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>bedroom door on the ground, No, we don't. Then Matt

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.239
<v Speaker 1>was trying to console her, and then at the very

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:53.600
<v Speaker 1>end of that, I was like, Okay, I think we've

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>stretched it long enough. I really need to go give

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>her a feed. Look, we're just we're doing what we can.

0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Hear people, We'll really make it a work, just trying

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>to in two ends together to make a whole. But

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>speaking of letdown, that's actually a great segue. That is

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a good name for something that we don't know that

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a name for. Yeah, well I mean it should

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>we let's start that name. Yeah, men are a letdown.

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>But that brings us into what the chat is about,

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and that is literally, dating in twenty twenty at the

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>best of times is pretty bloody hard. It's not easy,

0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like as time goes on it's getting

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>more complicated. There's more apps, there's more terminology, there's more

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>things that are right and wrong, there's more choice, and

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about in the main, no, there's more

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>choice in terms of how you find the men, but

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the choice of men, I feel like starts to get

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>really warned down. As someone that's been dating, I'm going

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to tell you in terms of the pool. Before I

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>met Jordan, I was at the age a really awkward

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>dating age, and anyone that's in this realm of I

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>would say I'd probably put it thirty one to thirty five.

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>You're in a really awkward time because you're at the

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>point where everyone's already married, but they're figuring out that

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not the person for them. So you've got just

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a few more years to wait until they all divorce.

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>So people are in their first marriage and the best

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>part's going to come in a couple of years when

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I figure out they're in the wrong relationship. So you're

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>in a limbo. You're in what I used to call

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>dating limbo, where you're waiting for the first marriage to end.

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>And that sounds horrible, but it's so true. You hit

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty five and everyone's free again. You're dating purgatory. So

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I just went ten years younger, well.

0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Like increases age, and now I'm dating a guy who's

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>currently in the UK twenty five.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>It's his birthday in two weeks it's twenty seven, Like okay,

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>but Black Britt said this. I mean, like, we did

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:39.479
<v Speaker 1>talk about how this is going to be a really

0:30:39.560 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>lighthearted episode and then we just got doom and gloom

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>and you all, but we are talking about dating terminologies

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and now we know that you guys already are so

0:30:47.120 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>aware of things like gas lading and love bombing and

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe even bread crumbing. You've heard of that ghosting ghosting

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and not bread crumbing like making a snitzl yeah, like

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Hansel of Gretel, like leaving bread crumbs.

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 2>But so like, there are so many different types of

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 2>terminologies for things that happen in the dating world. Now,

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go out and say that, like, some of

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 2>these different types of experiences are new, and they've kind

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 2>of brought on because of dating apps, and they're brought

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>on because of the digital age, but there are so

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>many of these things that are not new. Things like

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>gas lighting. That is not a new thing that we experience.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 2>It's been around for a very long time. But the

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 2>terminology and giving it a label means that when somebody

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>else that you are friends with or somebody else that

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>you know has experienced gas lighting, the fact that we

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>have a name for it and we have a label

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 2>for it means that we have a collective experience that

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>we're able to actually identify and share because it's really

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 2>hard to kind of explain, oh, this guy did this

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>to me, and then he also did this, and then

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 2>he was kind of manipulating me in this way, and

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 2>then he made my feelings feel invalidated. You could talk

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>about all these different things, but if you were like, yeah,

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I was dead in this guy and he was gaslighting me,

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 2>we instantly know what that means. And then we're like

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>ass wy, yeah, We're like, yeah, you need to just

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>drop that guy or drop that girl. So basically, this

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 2>is us giving you, guys a rundown on all the

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>most common terms of all the new weird dating lingo

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 2>that's out there. And this came off the back of

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Brittany reading an article which had to do with I

0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 2>wrote an article at hit home, guys, I mean, like

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 2>many articles do, but this hit home hard.

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 1>It's an article that was titled foster girlfriend. Now. I

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>have experienced this for a long time, but I'd never

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>heard it called a foster girlfriend, and I called it

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>something different. So I'm just gonna quickly tell you. Urban

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Dictionary says that a foster girlfriend can be defined as

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>a girl who dates a guy until they find their

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>forever home. The man finds it very forever home. Now.

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I love that I can call it a foster girlfriend now,

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 1>but I had a different name for it, which personally

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I like more. I called myself the one before the one,

0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and it's quite catchy. I think I might make a

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>movie into it. The one before the one, there was

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>a pierid there for like us solid five years. And

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not exaggerating. Every single person that I would date,

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>the next person that they dated was the one. The

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 1>literal next person was like, oh happy ever after, got

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a dog and a pick of fence and we're getting married.

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was exasperated. I was like, I created you,

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:05.719
<v Speaker 1>like I nurtured you to your marriage to I fixed

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>your problems. I put your band aids on, and I

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>set you free. For the next person, I didn't set

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.240
<v Speaker 1>them free. They left, usually of their own Screw you,

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>foster puppy. You can go into this in so much depth.

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>There are so many reasons, and most of the reasons

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>come back to like reflecting on you as a person.

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not necessarily a problem with the men, and it's

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 1>not that you have an issue either, but there's usually

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 1>some deep seated issues where you're probably not actually ready

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>for the relationship and you're going out and finding these

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.240
<v Speaker 1>injured birds that you want to nurture back to health

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>because you don't actually want to deal with a real relationship.

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>In hindsight, that was me, but I was dating these people,

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and at the time, I thought that I wanted to

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>be with them. I thought I was like, oh my god,

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>they're my penguin, They're a soulmate, like there's something in this.

0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And then they would just leave and get married to

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>someone else. And this happened to even people I dated

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>for like a month, people that weren't even serious. They

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>went and found them that the next person was it,

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, this is a sick joke. The

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>universe is is like, why am I getting all their

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>emotional baggage and damage and fixing them and teaching them

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 1>how a relationship should be. That's what I thought I

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>was doing. I felt like I was teaching them how

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.799
<v Speaker 1>to treat a woman and what was okay and what

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't okay, because I was always quite strict in that sense.

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Then they would go out and then some other woman

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>got this perfect specimen that I helped create.

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.480
<v Speaker 2>But I think, like you when you said that, you know,

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.280
<v Speaker 2>it's people who are not necessarily looking for a relationship

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 2>or there's some junk there to kind of deal with.

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't always agree with that. I also think that

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>someone who finds themself being a foster girlfriend it's because

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 2>they're very caring and very nurturing. And I do think

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>that that's the case for you Brett as well. Like you,

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 2>but you want to help people, like you see the

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.480
<v Speaker 2>best in people, and so like literally finding someone who

0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 2>you're like, ah, I can fix you.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>It comes with so many good intentions. Right, do you

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>worry about those police charges. We'll get past that.

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 2>We'll say with this together until they're being wiped and

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>then you can go on and have a happy relationship

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>in a family.

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>No, I think that there are some really great attributes

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to somebody who does this as well. You know, maybe

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.399
<v Speaker 2>if you are really wanting to be in a relationtionship

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 2>and you are wanting to have a long term partner

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 2>and you do find yourself being this foster girlfriend, like

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 2>being aware that when you meet somebody who has so

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>much junk to deal with and your role in the

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>relationship is helping them overcome their junk to become a

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 2>better person, or you can see the potential in who

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 2>that person could be, but they're not actually being that person.

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>In real life.

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's when you should be aware that there are

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:25.319
<v Speaker 2>some red flags going on here, and you may be

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:29.239
<v Speaker 2>repeating that same behavior of like fixing and then setting free.

0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, there's some good attributes to that, but

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 2>also it can be very damaging to yourself long term.

0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>There were a number of reasons and indications that you

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>why you're a foster girlfriend or that you could be

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>a foster girlfriend, and when I read them, I was like, I,

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>in hindsight, I was all of these things. And that's

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>probably why things like you spend too much energy focusing

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>on your career and things in your life and ticking

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>off bucket lists and making sure you're dealing with every

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>single thing in your life and achieving everything you want,

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:58.919
<v Speaker 1>and without you even knowing that, you're not ever put

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>in the relationship first. While you think that you're nurturing

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>these people, if your main priority is like ticking off

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>for your bucket lists and doing all the things that

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to do without even knowing subconsciously, you're probably

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>neglecting the relationship a bit. And when I look back,

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, that was when I was

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>like traveling the world for years and starting businesses and

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>doing all these things on my own. And I think

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe I look back and I'm like, I was probably

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>fostering them because dip down. I wanted the company, and

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I wanted the affection, and I wanted to love, but

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't ready to give them my all. And I

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>think that that is like the main reason women get

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>stuck in this foster cycle one before the one relationships.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I also think it ties into this idea

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 2>that like you can constantly be seeing someone. I think

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 2>foster girlfriends and foster relationships they very rarely tick over

0:36:41.480 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 2>into being something serious, right. They're always like a little

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 2>bit superficial. Maybe the guy kind of keeping you at

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 2>arm's length, he's benched you in case something better comes along.

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 2>But when you are the person that's constantly fixing someone

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 2>else and constantly making someone aware of how they can

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 2>be better or self improvement or all this sort of

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>like time and energy that goes into who bettering a person,

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 2>which sounds crazy because like you can't force someone to change,

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 2>you can't force someone to be anything that they don't

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 2>want to be. But it's an exhausting role in a relationship.

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think that often you'll find that that the

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.760
<v Speaker 2>relationship that you have where you're the one that's constantly

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 2>trying to prop that other person up, it has an

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:19.319
<v Speaker 2>expiration date because that is a fucking exhausting relationship. And

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>then they have been propped up, they've worked through their issues,

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>and then they go on to be great partners to

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 2>their next person, and that's where that repetitive cycle kind

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 2>of starts.

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>The thing that happens with foster relationships too is the women.

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 1>If you are the person that feels like you are

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the foster girlfriend, you often feel like it's your fault

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>and you get a bit heavy and hard on yourself.

0:37:38.360 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not your fault. You just haven't met the one yet,

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's easy to get down on yourself and be like,

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>no one loves me, but they do. You just haven't

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.720
<v Speaker 1>met you one. Keep doing your thing, it will happen

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>and totally.

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.040
<v Speaker 2>And I think like whether you're looking for a husband,

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.360
<v Speaker 2>someone long term, or you're just looking for a casual fling,

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the way to kind of prevent yourself from becoming a

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 2>foster girlfriend or a foster boyfriend. I think it's more

0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>foster girlfriends. I don't think I know too many guys

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 2>who have like dated perpetually until it's like the one

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 2>before the one.

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I have a good friend that I spoke to him

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:08.720
<v Speaker 1>last week. He's the epitome of foster boyfriend. He literally

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 1>he just got out of a marriage and he had

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend a week later and I said to him, like,

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I have a relationships podcast, and I think I know

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing, your monkey branching. You just get to

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>be alone. And he was like, you're like, we'll carry

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>that in a second. He was like, bro, you're right.

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Like he's like, you're fucking right. He's like, I don't

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>know what it is. I've haven't been alone in ten years.

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>So there are men that do it, but I think

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 1>historically beeing we probably women are probably more prone to it. Well,

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the way to kind of if you find

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 1>yourself or you have listened to this last little bit

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>of the chat and gone, yeah, that's exactly what I am.

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Every single guy I date ends up in a long

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 1>term relationship after me and leaves me for the one,

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 1>then I think I'm trying to fix them.

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, stop trying to fix them, but also like

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 2>make yourself the priority in the relationship. You know, I

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:49.440
<v Speaker 2>know that things have to be like even handed and

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 2>you have to like make sacrifices and compromises in a relationship,

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>but whether you're looking for a husband or whether you're

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 2>looking for a casual fleeing. Put yourself first and make

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 2>your intentions clear from the beginning, like tell them what

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:00.879
<v Speaker 2>you're after.

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>If you're after a.

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Relationship, then mate that known so that you're not being

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 2>walked all over and you're not compromising the things that

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.479
<v Speaker 2>you want to try and fit somebody else's mold.

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't be fixing someone from the start anyway. The

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 1>fixing comes maybe when they break down halfway. Okay, let's

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>get in to some of these. You can go the

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 1>next one. It's a good one, and I know you've

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 1>done it. Terminologies Okay, straight off the bat, Have I

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>done it? What is the time? Fun? Okay? Hey being digmatized?

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:29.480
<v Speaker 1>I love this one. Such a great pun.

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Now digmatize came up in a conversation the other day.

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:34.359
<v Speaker 2>This is like the foster girlfriend chat happened, and then

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 2>digmatize happened. We were having lunch the other day with Keisha,

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 2>who is our new editor of the podcast. You'll probably

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 2>hear us talk about her very so often, and she

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 2>used the word digmatize. Now, Britt and I are I

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 2>would say, like we are pretty well versed in everything

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 2>that happens across the relationship spectrum, and.

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.359
<v Speaker 1>Both of us were like, what the fuck is that?

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>It's because we've never heard a name, But when you

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>explain what it is, we've both been there.

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and I'm gonna say that you've been there too, girlfriend.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 2>So digmatized is when you stay in a shitty relationship,

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 2>or you put up with a shitty guy or a

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 2>situationship or a situationship well long past its expiration date

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.600
<v Speaker 2>just because his dick is so good and the sex

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 2>is so great.

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 1>So if you have found it, you all stay.

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 2>If you have stayed, then maybe you've been digmatized.

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 1>And guys, that's a put hypnotized with the dick lack

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a wand like expelling armis is dickie armis Okay, So

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I have definitely been digmatized. You guys know a lot

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>about my really bad relationship that I stayed in with

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 1>somebody who had displayed many traits of narcissistic personality disorder.

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>We had amazing, amazing, amazing sex and that is why

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I stayed.

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:49.319
<v Speaker 2>Without realizing at the time, I thought we had a deep,

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 2>deep connection and really it.

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Was a connection with dick that's a deep connection. That's

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>about as deep as your connection with Yes. Anyway, there

0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't much else there.

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Once I really broke it down, I actually sat down

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 2>and unpacked my relationship, and I was like, why do

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I love this man so much? What is it about

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 2>him that's so special? I was like, Oh, he's cheated

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 2>on me. Oh he gaslights me, Oh oh he manipulates me,

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 2>he's penis. He doesn't even put any time in with

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 2>my family and friends.

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I've never stayed in a relationship because of that. Like

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I can tell that you're like, because you're an idiot, Laura,

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 1>but also like I stayed in a relationship with the

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>social about this worse. But I have kept I guess

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I've had situationships. I guess that's a really good term

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.919
<v Speaker 1>for it. I have stayed like seeing people casually. There

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 1>has been nothing. It is the most surface level thing

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you can imagine, purely because when we got together, it

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>was fantastic. The sex was great. That was it. I

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think we even would talk.

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:47.959
<v Speaker 2>So you're like, the sex is so good that maybe

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>something could come with this relationship, maybe we could fall

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 2>in love.

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like obviously they're you're penguin.

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 2>You're like, we just are so well connected when we

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 2>don't have any clothes on. But when the clothes are

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>on and we have to sit at a cafe and

0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.919
<v Speaker 2>have a conversation, we're like, what are we gonna talk about?

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>We have all every single one of you, I can

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>guarantee in your friend group you've gone out to learn

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 1>you've talked about. So tell me about this guy. You're like, Oh,

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't actually really like him, but the sex is

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:10.919
<v Speaker 1>so good. Like how many times do you just say

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that you've been digmatized? Girls, you've been digmatized?

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So this kind of leads us into our second terminology,

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 2>which is called white clawing. Now I did not know

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 2>the name of this one. I was like, cool, never

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 2>heard of that in my entire life, theodoran or something.

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 2>White clawing, However, I've definitely done it now. White clawing

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 2>is when you date someone who is boring as batshit just.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Because they're good looking. I've been so.

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Guilty this, so I have never caught it white clawing,

0:42:36.080 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 2>but I used to call it white bread.

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, when you meet a man who has absolutely

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>no personality.

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.840
<v Speaker 2>They're not funny, but they are so beautiful that you

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>convince yourself that maybe maybe we could have a connection,

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 2>and maybe I just need to give it a bit

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 2>more of a shot for that relationship to really develop

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and bloom.

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>But had they been less.

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Attractive, you never ever, ever would have given it a

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 2>second chance or a second date. I once gave it

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 2>a six month worth of dates.

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I have been I'm like, straight up guilty of white chlorine.

0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I always see this guy, like, obviously, this was a

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>very very long time ago. He was quite a prominent

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>person in the media, and he was a model. He's beautiful.

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't explain how boring and dumb he was, like

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>there was nothing. The point that I would at dinner

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>with him and I was just blank. I was like,

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:21.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't even believe we are having this conversation. It

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>was a dumber stuff was. He was constantly looking at

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>his own Instagram when we're out at dinner, like just

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>peruising his own page of shit he's posted. There was

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing there. I couldn't talk to him about one thing,

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>but I was like you, You're like, ah, you are beautiful

0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>to look at, and I'm just gonna keep going because

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't not like it would be rude not to

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 1>have gone there.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I remember so one of my really good girlfriends. She

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 2>is incredibly intelligent, like sunny.

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Smart. She it's yes, it's it's pretty.

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:49.839
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't want to add her for that, so

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, you'll keep on keeping her anonymous. No, so

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.680
<v Speaker 2>this girl is like just bananas smart. Anyway, she hooked

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.359
<v Speaker 2>up with this guy. This is so many years ago,

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>it's not funny that she hooked up with this guy.

0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 2>He was very, very good looking, and it was at

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>a party. So yeah, she was like, you know what,

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll go out a date with you. We'll see what happens.

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 2>This guy spent the entire dinner talking about his gym

0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 2>workouts and how he eats cans of tuna because he

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 2>needs to have lots of protein. And now he said,

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 2>but don't worry, I don't have AIDS. And she was

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 2>like what what what.

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.319
<v Speaker 1>Do you mean? And he was like, well, you know,

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a's and she was like I okay.

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>She's like I'm glad that you don't. I don't understand

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:29.040
<v Speaker 1>how eating cans of tuna would have helped that. And

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>he was like, you know, from the mercury poisoning and

0:44:31.280 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 1>she was like, I am so sorry. I need to

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>go because I don't even think you have any idea

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>what's up and down or left or rock.

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>I feel I have lots of brain cells at this

0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>sitting here having this conversation. He meant mercury poisoning. He

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't mean he got things very confused.

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.279
<v Speaker 1>That's his soul. His intentions were there. Book looked very

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 1>very confused.

0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 2>She yeah, she kind of went on this day because

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>she was like, this guy's super hot, maybe there could

0:44:53.680 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 2>be something there.

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 1>It's not enough and we've always said that, like we're

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 1>always going to do it, but it is not enough

0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.040
<v Speaker 1>for me. Like looks you want someone to be hot,

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>but human personality or everything. But if you do Whiteclaw,

0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you're not alone. In twenty nineteen, plenty of Fish survey

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 1>of about a thousand yearsers revealed that over a quarter

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>of singles have done this and forty two percent of

0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>them know someone who have done this. And according to

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 1>this clinical social worker called fran Green, she is the

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 1>author of the Secret Rules of Flirting. It's so common

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>because apparently, if you're with someone that's really hot, you

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 1>feel hotter. And I found that really interesting because if

0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it's always like it elevates you, Like if you think

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>they're that hot, you're like, oh, for them to be

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>with me, like I must feel hot, And even if

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you're a tatting secure, it makes you feel better about yourself.

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.279
<v Speaker 1>And I must admit when I was like seeing this

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>really he was like the hottest guy. When I was

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>seeing this hot model guy, I was like, damn, like

0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I knew here date in the past. I was like,

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:50.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe I've got some snazz, you know, maybe I've still

0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>got something. I give you some snaz. I mean, yeah,

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm a nerd, especially when you use words like that, Hey,

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a nerd bagger, I'm nerd. I get that. No,

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I love it. But I definitely had a feeling of like, well,

0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>if he's dating me the people that he's dated in

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 1>the past, there's got to be something about me. And

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it made me, for a hot second, feel better. But

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I also have a lot of friends that refuse to

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>date really good looking people because it makes them feel worse.

0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know about this survey, what do you think.

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 2>I think most people have been in a situation where

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>they've dated someone and tried to convince themselves not necessarily

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 2>convince themselves. But they've wanted to give it a shot

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 2>because they've thought this guy's really attractive. But when you're

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 2>sitting down and having those conversations and you're really trying

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 2>to build a connection going, there is literally nothing here.

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>And I mean I did it for a long time

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>this guy.

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, he's a really nice guy. I

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 2>have nothing against him, and to somebody else he would

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 2>be a total package and a total catch. We just

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 2>had nothing in common. We were really into different things

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 2>and therefore, to me, the conversation that he brought to

0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the table was really boring. I'm sure the conversation I

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 2>brought to the table for him was really boring because

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 2>we were like two ships in the night, were not

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 2>on the same page whatsoever.

0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 1>You just wanted to look and touch his face and body.

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Just wanted to touch everything. Yeah, yes, anyway, let's not

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:03.719
<v Speaker 2>go into that into too much detail. But yeah, he

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.960
<v Speaker 2>was a beautiful man, and I think that, you know,

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 2>had he not been as aesthetically pleasing, I wouldn't have

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 2>let it go on for so long. But I kept

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 2>on willing myself, being like, oh, you know, maybe he really.

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Does like me.

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Maybe this could be something. And if I was to

0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 2>think now that I could have spent like forty years

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 2>of my life having conversations about journaling, now you would

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 2>have bailed. I would need to spoon my own eyeballs out.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it changes with age too. The older, we

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:30.560
<v Speaker 1>get for sure, like we want to hook up with

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.360
<v Speaker 1>these people like once off because you just want to

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 1>experience a night of pure magic. But I think the

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 1>older you get your priority shift and you don't care

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 1>for it anymore.

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Like oh, one hundred per I will take a funny

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 2>guy over a hot guy any day.

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:45.800
<v Speaker 1>It make me laugh and my undies are off. Okay,

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 1>The next one I want to talk about is something

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>that I haven't heard about, and that is called flash panning. Now,

0:47:51.719 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 1>I found this one quite interesting. It's that excitement when

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you get sort of I mean, this is a funny term,

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.080
<v Speaker 1>when you get steady when you start dating someone. But

0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>the first couple of weeks, you know when it's like

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>really exciting and really special and really passionate. It's really steamy,

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>it's really intimate. But then you can't handle the commitment

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 1>after so it's like everything's great and you're so excited

0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:15.480
<v Speaker 1>about it. But you're like, ah, still don't really want

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 1>to go here. I looked up the reason it was

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>called flash panning, and it makes more sense. I'm going

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 1>to explain it to you because I was like, well,

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I said to Laura, I was like, where do they

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>pull these terms from. It's actually a term from the

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>gold mining days. So when the gold miners went down

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to look for their gold, they would see a flash

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 1>that they're in the water, and that's the indication that

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>there might be something there. So they would run and

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.919
<v Speaker 1>you'd get so excited to the gold in the water,

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>being like I have struck gold. This is epic. Then

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 1>they'd put it in their pan and they'd find out

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that it was just a rock that had a shimmer

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.319
<v Speaker 1>from the sun, so a little bit of quartz. Yeah.

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's where the name flash panning came from, which

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I think is really great because it's that excitement that

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>it but you don't get anything from it.

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm really digging the level of research that you've done

0:48:55.800 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 2>for this. That was really impressive. I'm all here for this.

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>So more sense does it make now? I guess flash.

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Panning just really relates to people who are commitment phobic,

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 2>who like jump in, all guns blazing, maybe a little

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 2>bit of love bombing in there as well at the start,

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 2>really making you feel special and wanted, like this relationship

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 2>is heading somewhere, and then all of a sudden it

0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:14.359
<v Speaker 2>starts to go real cold, real quick.

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's a funny thing too, because often you don't

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>know why. Often you're like, why don't I want it?

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:20.879
<v Speaker 1>Why don't I want this? Like why do I still

0:49:20.880 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>want to be with other people? Why don't I want

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to commit to them when everything else is good? It's

0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 1>almost unexplainable, but you know what, some things can't be explained.

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I love that you were describing this as in like

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 2>why don't I want this? Because I feel like you're the.

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Flash Pana gold Mine, are guilty, Like and I know

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>this from like our like years of friendship now, Like

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you would run in full guns blazing, and I'd be like, hey,

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:44.000
<v Speaker 1>what happened to that frendchie And You're like, yeah, nah,

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:46.560
<v Speaker 1>so done now. Yeah, It's like, but you were in

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:48.320
<v Speaker 1>love with him last week and you're like, yeah, this

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 1>shit wasn't real. It was actually a rock. It was

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 1>a nugget. But whereas I was the opposite, I was

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 1>like I was like, I'm the shiny goal. Why the

0:49:58.080 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>fuck have you disappeared? Because I have attachment issues. We

0:50:02.160 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>all know that from past episodes.

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like the monkey brancher who wanted to be

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>straight into the next relationship. And I was like, so

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:11.040
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get married on Tuesday. Loved commitment. I'm all

0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 2>about commitment. Really want to just have two kids and

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:15.279
<v Speaker 2>punch out a third totally, you would have.

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were a bit crazy there for a little while.

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Wait you make out that like it's changed, Like I'm

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 2>not crazy now. Anyway, We're fine. Well, we just kind

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 2>of touched a monkey branching. We've talked about monkey branching

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:27.799
<v Speaker 2>loads on this podcast.

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 1>I was guilty of it, and that's what.

0:50:30.080 --> 0:50:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Britt was talking about earlier with her friend doing. It's

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.640
<v Speaker 2>when you kind of moved from one relationship to another relationship.

0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.479
<v Speaker 2>So the issue with monkey branching is like you never

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:40.800
<v Speaker 2>really sever a relationship and then have time to heal

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 2>and learn the lessons that you know you have been

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 2>bestowed from that relationship. All you're doing is filling the

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:49.240
<v Speaker 2>pain of one breakup with the excitement and the joy

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.240
<v Speaker 2>of a new hobby of a new person.

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Of a new relationship, see just to be on your own.

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And so you monkey branch from one relationship

0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 2>to the other relationship. And I think that you know,

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:01.359
<v Speaker 2>if you're guilty of doing this, you would know exactly

0:51:01.440 --> 0:51:03.120
<v Speaker 2>who you are. Sometimes it takes a little bit of

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:07.879
<v Speaker 2>self awareness and self reflection, but I definitely monkey branched

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot in my past relationships, and prior to being

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 2>with Matt, I had like some real time out and

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:16.320
<v Speaker 2>had some serious self reflection because I think the reason

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 2>why you need to have that time out between relationships

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.719
<v Speaker 2>is because the lessons that you will learn and the

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 2>things that you will gain from going through true heartbreak

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 2>can only be learnt if you actually sit in that

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.880
<v Speaker 2>junken process why it happened and what you want differently

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 2>for your next relationship. So this is one that I

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.959
<v Speaker 2>now feel super passionate about. If you are somebody who's

0:51:36.000 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 2>monkey branching, if you are somebody who feels the pain

0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:42.480
<v Speaker 2>of a breakup with a new person, stop it, like,

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.200
<v Speaker 2>stop doing it, because you're only robbing yourself of that

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:47.600
<v Speaker 2>self development, and you're robbing yourself of being happy on

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:48.280
<v Speaker 2>your own.

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Being on your own epic I reckon subconsciously. That's why

0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I picked Jordan to date, because I knew who was

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 1>going away here.

0:51:53.280 --> 0:51:55.439
<v Speaker 2>I was like, like, I'm going to pick a guy

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.239
<v Speaker 2>that requires zero commitment. Honey, I love you so much.

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to see you in eight months, see

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty five.

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 1>But another like, I guess this is a sub segment

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to monkey branching, which I really like because I know

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that do this. It's called cushioning,

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think that this it sort of goes into

0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:14.000
<v Speaker 1>monkey branching. Cushioning a lot of people sort of classified

0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>as micro cheating. Cushioning is not cushioning the blow for

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 1>someone else, it's cushioning the blow for yourself. It is

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a backup for when you know as a person you

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:24.840
<v Speaker 1>never want to be alone, and when you know you

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:28.319
<v Speaker 1>want to end a relationship, you don't actually end it

0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 1>until you have someone on the go. Extreme cushionists, as

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I've just made up that term extreme cushionists, they will

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 1>not it's a severe reflictionbetical treatment for this, take any biotics.

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Severe cushionists will actually not wait until they know their

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 1>relationship is over to find someone else. But they will

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 1>constantly have someone on the back burner, whether that is

0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:53.520
<v Speaker 1>someone in the past that periodically they'll send a flirty

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>text with, or they'll like their Instagram. It's all this

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>really low key, like technically you're not doing anything wrong,

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and this is why people call it micro cheating, but

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>it's literally I guess it goes into bread crumbing and

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>these all these ideas of just keeping someone that little

0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:11.759
<v Speaker 1>tiny bit interested so that when the time comes, you

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:13.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have to put the work in. You've got someone

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>to literally jump to. So it's what sort of flows

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>into monkey branching.

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think a lot of people listening to this,

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:21.839
<v Speaker 2>like this is probably something that's really relatable when you've

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 2>dated someone and they've had a friend or they've had

0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:28.960
<v Speaker 2>an ex, so they've had someone who they keep in

0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:32.560
<v Speaker 2>their orbit, in their sphere, and you know that there's

0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 2>something about that relationship that's a bit off, that makes

0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 2>you feel a bit uncomfortable, but it's always like no, no, no,

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:40.400
<v Speaker 2>we're just friends, like you're being crazy, and then all

0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, after you break up, they're fucking dating,

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:45.120
<v Speaker 2>like they're dating, or they're seeing each other or something's

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:46.520
<v Speaker 2>going on. There and you're like, oh, in case they're

0:53:46.520 --> 0:53:49.319
<v Speaker 2>getting married, yeahs elfrid.

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Am I crazy? No? I wasn't crazy. Of course there

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:52.239
<v Speaker 1>was something there.

0:53:52.480 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I think if you know that there's messages that are

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:57.439
<v Speaker 2>happening that make you uncomfortable, if there is a level

0:53:57.480 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 2>of connection between your partner and someone else that makes

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:02.439
<v Speaker 2>you feel really irked, and it's something that you can't shake,

0:54:02.760 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and you're not normally a suspicious person in past relationships,

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a big one. If you know that

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.479
<v Speaker 2>you're someone who's super suspicious all the time, then maybe

0:54:09.480 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 2>that that's on you. But if you feel like there's

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.440
<v Speaker 2>something about this that makes me uncomfortable about that friendship

0:54:15.480 --> 0:54:18.600
<v Speaker 2>or that relationship, be wary of that because you maybe

0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:19.560
<v Speaker 2>getting cushioned.

0:54:19.680 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your gut, Like I believe you are a fantastic furniture.

0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:27.120
<v Speaker 1>You are being cushioned, your friend, You're getting cushioned. All right?

0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:29.160
<v Speaker 1>What is another one? We've made a whole list of these.

0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.600
<v Speaker 1>There's so many of them, guys. Another one is dating

0:54:31.600 --> 0:54:35.520
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two? Is fucking wild? Twenty one? Twenty two?

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Twenty one? Why do you keep forgetting the year? We're

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one?

0:54:38.760 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's concerning to me that you don't know what

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:43.239
<v Speaker 2>you were in.

0:54:43.440 --> 0:54:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what day we're in. All I know

0:54:45.920 --> 0:54:48.800
<v Speaker 1>is that I get four hours sleep and it's twenty

0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>twenty four, and I'm pretty sure it's April. Yeah, that's right, Yeah, perfect, Okay,

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Happy birthday mom. It's my mum's birthday. And she listens

0:54:56.560 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to the podcasty Birthday Missus Hockley gone, don't that Nikki.

0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:03.719
<v Speaker 1>So another one is stashing. So it's also known as pocketing,

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and this is something that I have experienced to the extreme.

0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:10.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like, think when you have contraband, you stash it away.

0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 1>It's hidden from you. You don't want anyone to know

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 1>about it. You literally stash it out of sight. That's

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 1>where stashing has come from. So it's when someone doesn't

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:20.319
<v Speaker 1>want you in their life. You might be in a

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 1>relationship with them, but for some reason, you can't meet

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 1>their friends. For some reason, they don't want to put

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 1>you on their social media. They're stashing you. Now, I

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>was stashed, guys, I was stashed, and I was stashed

0:55:32.320 --> 0:55:36.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty extremely. You were stashed from the guy's wife. I

0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:38.160
<v Speaker 1>was in a cupboard for a year. No, I yeah.

0:55:38.200 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Literally two years of my relationship with my sociopathic X

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I was a secret and he is so good at

0:55:43.520 --> 0:55:46.719
<v Speaker 1>brainwashing and digmatizing that I was okay with that. I

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.200
<v Speaker 1>thought he was His lies and manipulation was so good

0:55:49.200 --> 0:55:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that I was like, yeah, like it would be the

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 1>best thing for I. I want to know about me.

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.520
<v Speaker 1>First of all, he didn't have social media, which I

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>mean he told me he didn't, but he did. But

0:55:56.040 --> 0:55:57.959
<v Speaker 1>that was his out for like why he doesn't post

0:55:57.960 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 1>me because he didn't have it. So I was like, cool,

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:02.280
<v Speaker 1>couldn't care less. They're not meeting the friends or anything

0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:04.840
<v Speaker 1>like that. I mean, and this is also manipulative behavior

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>where they take you away from friends and family, so

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:09.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no other safety in net. But he just made

0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:12.200
<v Speaker 1>me believe that our love was so special that he

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to share me in our limited time that

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>we had together. Like he's like, I don't want to

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 1>be out with my friends when I only get to

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:20.240
<v Speaker 1>see you every second weekend. You know, it was good.

0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 1>He was so fucked. He's dashed hard. He did a

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:23.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of things hard actually.

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:25.319
<v Speaker 2>But if you guys don't know what BRIT's referring to

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.840
<v Speaker 2>episode number three so I dated a sociopath. We always

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 2>recommend go back listen to that. If you're new to

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 2>lafe On Cut you haven't listened to it from the beginning.

0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 1>You'll realize why I was so messed up for so long.

0:56:34.440 --> 0:56:37.040
<v Speaker 2>And every time we refer back to Britney's Psychopathic X,

0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 2>like that is where this comes from. So to give

0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:40.799
<v Speaker 2>you guys contexts, go listen to that episode. It's such

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:42.520
<v Speaker 2>a good eat. Actually I can't say it's a good

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:43.719
<v Speaker 2>e because it's really traumatizing.

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:44.239
<v Speaker 1>No it's not.

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Now, it's super traumatizing, but it's very interesting to listen

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:47.960
<v Speaker 2>to it.

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 1>It explains a lot about who I am. And it's

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:52.279
<v Speaker 1>like when I met Jordan, I let him listen to

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:54.520
<v Speaker 1>one episode. He doesn't listen to the podcast. I've banned him.

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 1>He also doesn't want to know half this stuff we

0:56:56.360 --> 0:56:57.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about. But I just want to know that you

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:01.000
<v Speaker 1>were digmatized by your ex. I said to him, Hey,

0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>look like when we met, I was like, listen to

0:57:02.960 --> 0:57:05.239
<v Speaker 1>one episode so I dated Social Bath because like I was,

0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 1>so I didn't want to tell you my whole story again,

0:57:07.160 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you listen to it. If you've got questions,

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you can ask me otherwise, like, we never need to

0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:13.320
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, but I feel like it explains a

0:57:13.360 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 1>lot about me. And I left it at that and

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it was great. He had a few questions and he's like,

0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go back to your past, but

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:20.920
<v Speaker 1>anyway go back to that. But yeah, So stashing just

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>this like keeping you out of you perpetually.

0:57:23.520 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 2>So stashing or pocketing for anybody who's experienced this, if

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 2>you're dating someone who doesn't want to share you on

0:57:28.920 --> 0:57:32.600
<v Speaker 2>social media, is really anti being in a relationship with

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 2>you on Facebook, you've never met their family and friends,

0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:38.280
<v Speaker 2>or when you do, they don't like outwardly introduce you

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 2>as their girlfriend or their boyfriend. They're like, Wela, this

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:44.080
<v Speaker 2>is my friend Sarah. We're just hanging out. Or if

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:47.120
<v Speaker 2>when you do meet their friends it seems like they

0:57:47.240 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 2>don't really know who you are, or that the relationship's

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:51.680
<v Speaker 2>been downplayed to some extent.

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Something's not right. You have been stashed, my friend. You

0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>have been kept in the cupboard, and it's time to

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 1>burst out and believe and be your true self. But honestly, like,

0:57:59.080 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 1>if that's happening, it's not right. There's a reason someone

0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>is keeping you a secret. There's absolutely no reason that

0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:08.280
<v Speaker 1>someone cannot introduce you to anyone in their life or

0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:10.800
<v Speaker 1>put you on any social media platform or as is not.

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 2>That's a big thing of it, is right. It means

0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 2>that they don't have to take responsibility for you. So

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 2>when they do or if the relationship does break down,

0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:19.439
<v Speaker 2>they just get to go back to their normal life

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and back to their life and back to their wife

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:24.320
<v Speaker 2>and back to exactly how things were beforehand, and they

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 2>don't have to go through any of the breakup or

0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:29.360
<v Speaker 2>the separation of or the talking about you to their friends.

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:32.080
<v Speaker 2>It's literally like you don't exist anymore. They slip back

0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.480
<v Speaker 2>into their normal life. So, yeah, if you feel like

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:36.560
<v Speaker 2>you're being stashed or you feel like you're being pocketed,

0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:38.440
<v Speaker 2>that is a big conversation that you need to have

0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 2>with your partner because there does come a time where

0:58:41.000 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you should feel fully integrated and fully a part of

0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 2>your partner's life, and it's a real reflection that they want.

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 1>To be with you. And you know what, when I'm

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:50.840
<v Speaker 1>at Jordan and he was like, I don't I've never

0:58:50.880 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 1>put anyone on my social media like a female. He's like,

0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not big on that whatever, and I said to him,

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and I said, look cool, but I am no, I'm

0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:01.320
<v Speaker 1>not even I'm not huge on it. Well, I've never

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 1>had the experience. But I also said to him, look,

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.960
<v Speaker 1>heads up, I dated someone that kept me a secret

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>for two years and like, and it did it gave me.

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:11.120
<v Speaker 1>When he's like, I probably won't post anything purely because like,

0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we can keep this relationship between ourselves

0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and not relationship. But he's like, he doesn't feel the

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:17.680
<v Speaker 1>need to be very public. He's not a public person.

0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 1>It was like, and it has never happened to me before.

0:59:20.440 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 1>You're like public, podcast a buddy, social media friends. But

0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 1>it was wrong choice, buddy. It literally triggered me. It

0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>took me back to someone that kept me a secret

0:59:32.000 --> 0:59:34.040
<v Speaker 1>for two years. And I said that and I would

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:37.200
<v Speaker 1>never make him do anything. I started to get this anxiety,

0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>which I've never had. I've never suffered from that, and

0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that makes me feel like you want

0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:42.400
<v Speaker 1>to keep me a secret, and that's all I said,

0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and without saying anything else, he knew that if he

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:46.240
<v Speaker 1>went and put a photo up, it would make me

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:47.680
<v Speaker 1>feel better. So he just went and did it on

0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:50.640
<v Speaker 1>his own, and I felt really good. About that so well.

0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:52.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that there's a couple of things to consider

0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:54.800
<v Speaker 2>with this idea, and like this kind of goes into

0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:58.120
<v Speaker 2>a greater conversation around stashing, and that is, if your

0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 2>partner never posts on Instagram, they literally don't, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>a social media person. They don't use Facebook, they don't

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<v Speaker 2>use Instagram. That is a much lesser offense if they're

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<v Speaker 2>not sharing you publicly on those social media platforms than

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's super active, who does stories, who does posting,

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<v Speaker 2>and who is making a conscious and concerted effort every

1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:20.800
<v Speaker 2>time they're on social media to not put you on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that is where I think you really need to

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<v Speaker 2>be like red Flag, Red Flag met me one hundred percent,

1:00:26.640 --> 1:00:28.840
<v Speaker 2>feel that whatever is happening in your loins and go

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<v Speaker 2>with that feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're trying to maintain a status of being single totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And why would someone need to do that unless it's

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<v Speaker 2>because they want to keep other people on the burn too, because.

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<v Speaker 1>They're pushing there. You go, all right, I reckon, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got time for two more of these. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one that I really like because it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that I've done and I think it's something that we

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<v Speaker 2>can be really guilty of when we have a low

1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:52.000
<v Speaker 2>sense of self worth, and that is something called eclipsing. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>eclipsing is when you start dating someone and you instantly

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<v Speaker 2>absorb their hobbies, their interests, and you are almost mirroring

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<v Speaker 2>what they like and they want to do because you

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<v Speaker 2>want them to like you, so you mold yourself like

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<v Speaker 2>a little chameleon. There's so many terms they could have

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<v Speaker 2>called this es separate eclipsing, that you mold yourself like

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<v Speaker 2>a little chameleon, and you be the person that they

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<v Speaker 2>want you to be in order for them to forward

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<v Speaker 2>madly in law that.

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<v Speaker 1>You think they want you to be. It's like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, I love horse riding too,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've got a horse allergy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, climbing is my favorite thing ever, except I'm fucking

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<v Speaker 2>petrified of heights.

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<v Speaker 1>It's exactly that, it's just changing who you are because

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<v Speaker 1>you think that you're going to be more attractive and

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<v Speaker 1>likable to a person.

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<v Speaker 2>We've all kind of like the time that I jumped

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<v Speaker 2>out of an aeroplane with a parachute on on National TV,

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<v Speaker 2>even though I'm petrified of heights, because maybe aggregate.

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<v Speaker 1>That was I mean, you were forced out of that plane.

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<v Speaker 2>I like hideous. I would say that that's eclipsing, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was on The Bachelor, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>group dates was that we had to jump out of

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<v Speaker 2>the plane with a parachuteon Do I want to go skydiving?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have no interest in skydiving. Like I'll put

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<v Speaker 2>my hand up and say that that is not thing

1:02:00.320 --> 1:02:01.720
<v Speaker 2>that I want to do. I wanted to do when

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<v Speaker 2>I was in my twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>Now not too much. Can runge yeah too.

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<v Speaker 2>I really love my life now. I don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>prove anything to anyone. I did not want to do

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<v Speaker 2>that at all. And I found out after we did

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<v Speaker 2>that that somebody had broken their legs the week prior.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that, shit scares the absolute hell out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I realized this. So like when Matt and I

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<v Speaker 2>after we'd been dating for quite a while, so we

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<v Speaker 2>went to New Zealand and Matt wanted to go bungee jumping,

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<v Speaker 2>And Matt had it in his head that I was

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<v Speaker 2>someone who really likes doing skydiving and I really liked

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<v Speaker 2>doing these eventure activities because I had said that I

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<v Speaker 2>liked doing them when I was on the show, which

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of lied about guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I fake. I don't even think I intentionally lied.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I thought I wanted to do them like

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<v Speaker 2>I do genuinely think I wanted to go skydiving. And

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<v Speaker 2>then after I did it, I was like, that scared

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<v Speaker 2>the absolute hell out of me. I'm never going to

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<v Speaker 2>do something like that again.

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<v Speaker 1>So same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to New Zealand and I was like, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>I love bungee jumping, can't wait to get that a try.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to the top of the bungee jump. I

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<v Speaker 2>was the only person who didn't jump that day. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a full blown pan attack. I bawled my eyes out.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like seventeen year old girls just flinging themselves off,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I'm not doing this. I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried twice, so I fully got harnessed, would you

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<v Speaker 2>make yourself, went to the edge, got unharnessed, got reharnessed up,

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<v Speaker 2>went to the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>Still couldn't do it. Okay, So I went to that

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<v Speaker 1>exact bungee jump and I'm scared of heights as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you did it all right, I'm brittany, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did it. No, I'm such a psycho that I nearly

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<v Speaker 1>made myself sick to do it. My sister we went together.

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<v Speaker 1>She just literally went well threw herself off. She loves it.

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<v Speaker 1>I had this full panic to work myself up to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I finally just did it. I was like, fuck, I

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<v Speaker 1>just threw myself off, which I actually melted off the side.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not throw myself off, but I did it

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<v Speaker 1>seven times because the feeling I was petrified, but the

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<v Speaker 1>adrenaline feeling, I was like, that is the best feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>But every time I got to the top, I nearly

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<v Speaker 1>had a milkdown again. But I still forced myself to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. It's like this really weird adrenaline love. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it, and I realized we realized you had him.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you don't have to fake it exactly right. But

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<v Speaker 1>I even said this to Matt. I was like, if

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<v Speaker 1>we had just started dating, I know I would have

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<v Speaker 1>done that bungee jump because you wanted me to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would have done it for you to, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, impress you, which I like that sounds crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>throwing yourself off a cliff to impress a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>would do that. But because we were fully dating, and

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew that we loved each other and like

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<v Speaker 1>him being into me wasn't based on me doing adventure sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, I don't want to do this

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't feel like I have anything to prove now.

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<v Speaker 1>So eclipsing is a big one. If you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>your interest in your hobbies shift and you're very chameleon

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<v Speaker 1>like whenever you get into a new relationship, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>really being authentic to yourself. You're not being authentic to

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<v Speaker 1>who you are, and at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that person isn't as perfectly matched to you as

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<v Speaker 1>what you think because you're not really being you. But

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<v Speaker 1>also we're not saying don't go If you're dating a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that's like I love to play golf, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>go play golf with him. Be like, oh, come play

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<v Speaker 1>with you sometimes, but don't like I love golf, I

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<v Speaker 1>played for ages. Then go buy some clubs and google

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<v Speaker 1>how to play golf and get golf lessons. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're saying. Like, we're saying, go and do those things,

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<v Speaker 1>but be honest, be like, well, I'm not good at this,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not my thing, but I'll do it with

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<v Speaker 1>you for sure. So we have a shared experience, but

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<v Speaker 1>like don't fake it totally trying new things like put

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<v Speaker 1>yourself out there, have experience, but like know where that

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<v Speaker 1>boundary lies between like trying to absorb that person's personality

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<v Speaker 1>versus just like putting yourself outside your comfort zone being's

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<v Speaker 1>a human. Yeah, okay, I want to talk about one

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<v Speaker 1>that is called kitten fishing, and I love this. I

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<v Speaker 1>just love the name. It's it's sort of like catfishing,

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<v Speaker 1>but a step down. It's like catfishing with online dating.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially it is you're not being malicious, it's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>because catfishing is ill intended. It is you are being malicious.

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<v Speaker 1>It is premeditated. You're going out to completely lie to

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<v Speaker 1>someone and ruin their life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, catfishing is like you are pretending to be somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who you're not, completely different name, different person, different photos,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's Sally's seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>Years old pretending to be Bob. That's hot, it's absent.

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<v Speaker 1>But kitten fishing is like when you maybe curate your

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<v Speaker 1>dating profile to be the best of the best. We've

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<v Speaker 1>all done it. I was guilty of it for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. I put only the most immaculate photos on

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<v Speaker 1>that were all perfect that I've probably taken five of

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<v Speaker 1>each one to get the best one, because I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I meant five thousand. Sorry did I say five?

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<v Speaker 1>I trailed off. Sorry I meant five thumb We've all

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<v Speaker 1>been there. Don't worry. I did that because I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what people want to do. I'm like, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a dating profile. I want people to date me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put my hot photos up. I can't tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>like this was in the beginning. I've really let it

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<v Speaker 1>all out at the end. I can't tell you how

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<v Speaker 1>many dates at the start I canceled and how much

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<v Speaker 1>anxiety I had about going to meet people when I

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<v Speaker 1>started online dating, because I was like, I know, in

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<v Speaker 1>real life, I'm just a normal average person. My profile was, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>i'll call it, my profile was a ten. You am

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<v Speaker 1>not a normal average person. You are an absolute smoking gun.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I will not have. I will not

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and hear you talk ill of yourself. Ever. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking. I'm not talking ill about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But you were like a Victoria's Secret model on your yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>on my five thousand photos. No, I guess the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is is like if you're going on a date and

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<v Speaker 2>you're worried that you don't look like your photos, you're

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<v Speaker 2>worried that you've put an inflated version of yourself, then

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<v Speaker 2>you're probably kitten fishing. I think that, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're concerned about showing up and someone going oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>she looks hotter in a photos, then maybe that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the most authentic profile you could put together.

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<v Speaker 1>And there has been actually a lot of research, and

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<v Speaker 1>I ended up changing my profile after a while to

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<v Speaker 1>just very like normal photos. And I say normal by

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like more down to earth, more laid back,

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<v Speaker 1>less perfectly curated photos. And the research says that men

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<v Speaker 1>are actually more attracted to that. They're more attracted to

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<v Speaker 1>things that are more real, and they feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>can relate more to that. So and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. When I was looking at men's profiles, the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that were all perfect and topless and curated, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, ill left and the post people that were

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<v Speaker 1>like you could there were half laughing faces that were

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<v Speaker 1>throwing themselves around in the ocean with their friends. They

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<v Speaker 1>were the ones I was like, that guy looks awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>So why wouldn't that being reversed and the men were

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. And when you put forward like really

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<v Speaker 1>modely photos and you look so perfect on like your

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<v Speaker 1>dating profiles, it's intimidating, Like that is intimidate I used

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<v Speaker 1>to And when you say about men like I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I was on land dating. If I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was like a full hunk like abs out

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<v Speaker 1>looking absolutely ridiculously good looking, I felt super intimidated by that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, well, I don't think that they

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<v Speaker 1>would like me in real life anyway, Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>pretty enough or funny enough, or great enough or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is where I'm like, shut your pie hole.

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<v Speaker 2>It instantly led into fed into my insecurities, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'd much rather a guy who had a

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<v Speaker 2>funny profile, who seemed down to dadboard with a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a dam. I'm here for a dad board even

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<v Speaker 2>though matd has anything but a duty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ribbed. It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, he's so ripped now after Dancing with the Stars.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been training every day. He's got minus five percent

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<v Speaker 2>body fat. It's like I've just had a child and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like the most unfit version of myself and he's

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<v Speaker 2>just gone like fucking ten times.

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<v Speaker 1>The opposite direction. It's he is weirly fit at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember coming Actually, I remember this conversation. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you were Laura. I showed you and Matt

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<v Speaker 1>my dating profile one day. Because they were always living

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<v Speaker 1>vicariously through me. I would come up to hear to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out and I'd be like, show is he talking

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<v Speaker 1>to blah blah blah blah. They both looked at my

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<v Speaker 1>profile in the early days and they were like, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to change your profile. I remember Matt being like, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's going to swipe you. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I put so much effort into making this perfect. He's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too polished. He's like people, I can tell you now,

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<v Speaker 1>men will be intimidated by the fact that you look

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<v Speaker 1>it's too polished and too put together. And Matt was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not like that, and you were like, yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>go and fucking put one of you at the beach

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<v Speaker 1>having fun. That was candid and I was really shocked

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<v Speaker 1>by that. Girl. I was like, wow, I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>that's what people wanted. So I changed that and I

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<v Speaker 1>had way more success by like zero point zero five

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<v Speaker 1>percent more success at least zero points zerifye like, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting. So you guys just think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about your profiles. If you're single and your dating,

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<v Speaker 1>think about what you're putting up. Don't go to so

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<v Speaker 1>much effort to make it perfectly curated, because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>actually what people are looking for anyway, Stop getting fishing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even like cats anyway, I'm related.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're gonna do one more, which I always had tube,

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<v Speaker 2>but now we're doing three because it's fun without a

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<v Speaker 2>cause over here. The last one, and it's because we

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of got onto like profiles and talking about

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<v Speaker 2>tinders and whatever else. The last one is sanitizing. Now

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<v Speaker 2>sanitizing figure tiz into COVID. It is how you should

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's social distance, take care of yourself. Were gloves sanitize No,

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<v Speaker 2>So sanitizing has nothing to do with COVID, But it

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<v Speaker 2>has everything to do with sanitizing your social media of

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<v Speaker 2>your ex. So, for example, if you've had a long

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<v Speaker 2>term relationship or you've dated someone and you have photos

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<v Speaker 2>of your ex on your Instagram and then you go

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<v Speaker 2>back and delete every trace of their existence, you have

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<v Speaker 2>just sanitized your Insta. And I think you know sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>we sanitize because we've gone through really shitty breakups and

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<v Speaker 2>really bad relationships and we don't want to remember them

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<v Speaker 2>and we want to completely wipe that person from our hemisphere.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we just sanitize our Instagram because we're worried about

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<v Speaker 2>what future or potential partners might think. They might think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we're still in a relationship because the relationship only

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<v Speaker 2>recently ended. Sanitizing is a questionable thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's very related. It's an individual totally,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's totally relative to the situation. Like we said,

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<v Speaker 1>if a relationship ended badly, then that kind of lends

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<v Speaker 1>itself more to sanitizing your social media. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>had a good relationship, why would you delete all those photos?

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<v Speaker 1>Their memories and you've lived that experience. It's contributed to

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<v Speaker 1>who you are as a person, and somebody who comes

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<v Speaker 1>in your future shouldn't be threatened by the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you have photos of your X on your Instagram. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you want to sanitize to an extent, like to

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<v Speaker 1>sanitize like one hand, maybe you want to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the photos that are too lovey and dovey ll

1:11:17.360 --> 1:11:19.600
<v Speaker 1>remind you of something too much and maybe you just

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<v Speaker 1>delete a few photos that like hit a saw point.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend. I have these friends that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the most toxic relationship I have ever seen. It

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<v Speaker 1>is disgraceful. I'm like, I don't know, and beyond anything,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why they're constantly on and off and together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, just both of you leave. You know, it's horrific,

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<v Speaker 1>But they sanitize. It's actually funny. I keep up with

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<v Speaker 1>them by their Instagram. They sanitize on a weekly basis.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I know when they've broken up because they've

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<v Speaker 1>just deleted their last week of photos and then they're

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<v Speaker 1>back together again. Yeah, they sanitize it, but they obviously

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<v Speaker 1>just archive it because when they're good again, they put

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<v Speaker 1>the photos back on the profile. And I'm like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually ridiculous, Like delete them and break up or keep

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<v Speaker 1>them on and say together, or break up and keep

1:11:55.280 --> 1:11:56.720
<v Speaker 1>them on. I don't care, but they're on and off

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<v Speaker 1>every week. I'm like, you're not clean.

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<v Speaker 2>This is called and beautiful. I'm sick of this sitcom.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to change the channel. Like, guys, we all

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're doing and we don't care. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>as investing in your relationship as what you are photos.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, guys, that is it from us on

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<v Speaker 2>this topic. We have if you, I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have some other ones for us that we haven't covered.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have heard of a great dating terminology that

1:12:17.680 --> 1:12:19.000
<v Speaker 2>you want us to throw around with, chuck in the

1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Facebook group, glide into our dms. These are all very

1:12:24.040 --> 1:12:26.439
<v Speaker 2>controversial terms, but you know what, there's things that we've

1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:28.720
<v Speaker 2>all done in relationships. They're all experiences that we've had

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<v Speaker 2>and now we have labels for them if you ever

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<v Speaker 2>experience it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Also just a bit of fun, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to evolve with evolving technology. As all

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<v Speaker 1>these new ways of dating come up, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>new terminology, there's gonna be new things to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, as we can come up with more fucked

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<v Speaker 2>up ways to treat each other, we'll definitely come up

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<v Speaker 2>with more terms for it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you about it, all right, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that we never finish an episode without our

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<v Speaker 2>suck and our suite, our highlight and our low light

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<v Speaker 2>of each and every week.

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<v Speaker 1>And Brittany, you can go first. What is your suck, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>My suck that you haven't left the bedroom. Yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, guys, the same suck as last week. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a different suck next week. I still have

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<v Speaker 1>been in my isolation. I haven't liked my house. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a cesspit. It's like a sick cess pit. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I need someone just come in and sanitize

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing. Actually I probably will do that, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's been my suck. I've I've just really been knocked

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<v Speaker 1>like I've never been knocked before. My sweet, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to give to my sister Sherry this week. She lives

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<v Speaker 1>up the road from me. In bonding like you're just

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<v Speaker 1>giving out prizes this week, my prize goes to Sherry.

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<v Speaker 1>My prize goes to Sherry. Sherry has undoubtedly been amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>She looked after me so much this week. She was

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<v Speaker 1>constantly bringing me soups to try and eat because I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't eat for a week, and she was forcing them in.

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<v Speaker 1>She was going and getting my scripts filled and prescriptions.

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<v Speaker 1>She was bringing me anything I needed. She was like,

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<v Speaker 1>she was incredible. So my sweet goes to Sherry for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And she is moving away. She's moving to Queensland, so

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<v Speaker 1>that will be my suck soon. She hasn't got a

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<v Speaker 1>set date. She's looking for a house. So a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of you on our stories have seen that. Sometimes I'm

1:13:57.000 --> 1:13:58.640
<v Speaker 1>posting like I'm gonna miss you kind of thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of you ask about it. Her plan is

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<v Speaker 1>to be moving up north to start fresh up there

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<v Speaker 1>for no reason other than you know, there's time for

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<v Speaker 1>a sea change. So my suck for probably the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the year will be like me crime myself sleep

1:14:10.760 --> 1:14:15.360
<v Speaker 1>because Jordan and Sheridan and everyone, I'm not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do, go with you, yeah, like we can't leave. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, I'll follow you. So my suck for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>my week's been really good. I fucking love that. It's like, also,

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<v Speaker 1>weren't allowed to do this. My only suck is that

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<v Speaker 1>you have been sick and you have been really really

1:14:31.160 --> 1:14:32.960
<v Speaker 1>out for the count and I have felt very very

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<v Speaker 1>bad for you. Thank you, which is the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, when you told me that your bed is just

1:14:37.920 --> 1:14:40.280
<v Speaker 2>strewn with vomit bags, I was like, that is next the.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, they're clean vomit bags there on hand. Also, my suck,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you my suck is.

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<v Speaker 2>My suck is that Brits sent a photo of her

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<v Speaker 2>throat to me. She sent me a photo of her

1:14:50.000 --> 1:14:52.759
<v Speaker 2>throat when her throat was infected, and it still makes

1:14:52.760 --> 1:14:55.000
<v Speaker 2>me feel like I'm going to vomit. I'm not good

1:14:55.040 --> 1:14:57.439
<v Speaker 2>with like body stuff, like if someone's sick or like

1:14:57.439 --> 1:15:00.320
<v Speaker 2>like bloody or there's like weeds, I can't handle it,

1:15:00.320 --> 1:15:02.840
<v Speaker 2>whereas brit lives for this because she's like so hospitalized.

1:15:03.040 --> 1:15:04.639
<v Speaker 1>But you know, when normally you have a sore throat,

1:15:04.680 --> 1:15:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like, oh, I've got a sore throat,

1:15:06.040 --> 1:15:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, oh, that sucks. But when you can

1:15:07.960 --> 1:15:11.160
<v Speaker 1>physically see the necrosis at the back of your throat

1:15:11.200 --> 1:15:15.679
<v Speaker 1>that he's like causing a blockage, that it's black. But yeah, guys,

1:15:15.720 --> 1:15:16.800
<v Speaker 1>it was disgusting.

1:15:16.920 --> 1:15:18.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like visceral for me, Like I actually, like every

1:15:18.920 --> 1:15:21.280
<v Speaker 2>single time she talks about it, I am reminded by

1:15:21.479 --> 1:15:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the image that I'll never get out of my head.

1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm traumatized. I thought I didn't have a suck. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a suck.

1:15:26.400 --> 1:15:27.640
<v Speaker 1>That was it? Well, you know what it is. The

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<v Speaker 1>doctor said to me, you know what's bad when we

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<v Speaker 1>want to keep talking about just this one thing. He

1:15:31.120 --> 1:15:32.920
<v Speaker 1>knows bad when you go to the doctor and he's

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<v Speaker 1>like whoa. He's like, oh, my actual god, and he

1:15:36.640 --> 1:15:38.519
<v Speaker 1>reiterated to the point that when I got home, he

1:15:38.640 --> 1:15:40.720
<v Speaker 1>messaged me and he was like, please, don't hesitate to

1:15:40.760 --> 1:15:42.320
<v Speaker 1>go to emergency, Like he was worried my throat was

1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:43.680
<v Speaker 1>going to close over and I was gonna die. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, this is extreme. She had dead, rotting flesh

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of her Anyway, Okay, move on. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we cock you sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>My sweet for the week is just Easter with the family,

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<v Speaker 2>Like my life has changed so much and it's so

1:15:55.880 --> 1:15:57.920
<v Speaker 2>strange to me that now I do Easter egg hunts

1:15:57.960 --> 1:15:58.760
<v Speaker 2>with babies.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had a really I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it was my birthday the other week and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mention this, but like when I was thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>I was miserable and then turning and I had a

1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:12.519
<v Speaker 2>massive party. We went to Bali and I was just

1:16:12.560 --> 1:16:14.080
<v Speaker 2>having this like last week and a half, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>having this kind of like reminisce about the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>now that I'm thirty five, my life is so vastly different,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm so much happier, and how much can change

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<v Speaker 2>in such a short period of time. Like I've had

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<v Speaker 2>this real like self reflection over the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>just how quickly things that are shitty can change to

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<v Speaker 2>being really great. And I'm really grateful for my family,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love that we do weird little Easter egg

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<v Speaker 2>hunts with babies now and.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so wholesome. So it's something uffy. Yeah, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird because I am the one who thought she

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<v Speaker 2>would never have kids and now I have two kids

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm talking about a third.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever want to hide and chocolate for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm down for that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's someone to the table anyway. Guys, that is it

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<v Speaker 2>from us today. We hope you love the episode. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that it was mostly a much more lighthearted episode

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<v Speaker 2>than what we do, except for the first half of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, we did have that very important conversation

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<v Speaker 2>Also, this week's Ask gun Cut is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a very very special one because we have Maddie Jay

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<v Speaker 2>joining us for a male's perspective. So if you have

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<v Speaker 2>any questions that you want to ask for a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you tune into this this episode of Asphalt.

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<v Speaker 1>And this will Actually we've had many day on a

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<v Speaker 1>few times, but usually filter in when one of us

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<v Speaker 1>is sick or away for an ask on card. This

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<v Speaker 1>will be our first one where it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us. It's a menajatur and is a

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<v Speaker 1>Pi bangerous theorem, is it. It's such a nerve burger.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just finish this.

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<v Speaker 2>your cat, to your dog, and tell everyone and shed

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<v Speaker 2>the love because we love that