1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: This is a Happy Family's podcast with doctor Justin Coolson. 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: We are Luke and Susie and this is the podcast 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: for time poor parents who just want answers now. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: And we recently got that brand new book of his 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Nine Ways to a Resilient Child, and it's excellent. I'm 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: really I'm going through just very slowly. I know I 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 2: haven't let you get your hands on it quite let 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: me hear it yet, but it's one of those ones 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: that I really want to make sure I give good 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: time too. But I want to address something from the 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: very first chapter of this book with Justin today if 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: we can, Justin, welcome to the show. Thanks for having 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: a chat to us again today. 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: Can you tell all your guests to be your favorite, 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 3: don't you? 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Well, I can promise you she doesn't have all our 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: guest book book on her bedside. Can you can you 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: quickly jot together Nine Ways to a Resilient Husband when 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: your when your wife won't let you have the book. 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Please to get you a copy to put a blog 21 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: together for you. 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: Luke, the man's version and the dad's version of mum's version. 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: But in the very first chapter of this book, there's 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: a phrase that you use that has absolutely captivated me. 25 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: It's post traumatic growth. Now, we're very familiar with the 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: term post traumatic stress disorder, which we hear quite frequently 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: in a number of circumstances that people face in their life. 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 2: But can you talk to us a bit about post 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: traumatic growth? 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, if I was to give you a five second overview. 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: But instead of getting anxious and stressed when trauma occurs 32 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: in our lives, we grow through it. Actually we grow 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: because of it. It strengthens us. It makes us into better, stronger, 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: more resilient people. The trauma, rather than driving us into 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: the ground, turns us into better people. 36 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: We are talking post traumatic growth today with doctor Justin Coulson. 37 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: More shortly, most children are born curious and confident. They 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: love to explore the world, new friends, and try new things. 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: But between the ages of two and twelve, confidence often 40 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: drops off. Why and how can we rebuild it? 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Just even creating that 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: language seems to create another option of how we do 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: with the traumas that we face. And you know that 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: there are some people who face incredible trauma and they 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: have this incredible bounce back. And you actually spoke about 60 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: one of those people in your book, and Rosy Baddy, 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: who had this incredible response to a trauma that no 62 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: parent would ever want to would ever want to face. 63 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: But how do we become a Rosy Baddy when we 64 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: face our traumas. 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: Justin's there's two quotes that immediately spring to mind. One 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: of them, one of them I've written in the front 67 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: of the book, where I dedicated the book to my 68 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: daughter's I said, when life puts you in a tight spot, 69 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: don't ask why me, Instead stand tall and say try me. 70 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: There's something about looking at trauma face to face, and 71 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: I noted that sometimes it's easy to say this when 72 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: you're not in the middle of the trauma. But there's 73 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: there's something incredibly powerful when we look at something and say, 74 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: I know that there is something in this for me 75 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: to learn. I know that this will be a blessing 76 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: to me. I know that this will somehow help me. 77 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: Sometimes we can't see that, and other times we can. 78 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 3: There's a wonderful old Christian him and the name of 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: It's just my mind. But one of the lines in 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: it says, I do not ask to see the distance 81 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: scene one step enough for me. It's called Lead Kindly Light, 82 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: and it was written by a guy who'd been out 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 3: as a missionary back in the eighteen hundreds. He was 84 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: stuck on the seed. There was no wind for days, 85 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 3: there was no food, there was no water. Everyone was sick. 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: He really thought he was going to die. And he 87 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: wrote this thing as he faced this tremendous adversity, thinking 88 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 3: that he was going to die, and what he was 89 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: essentially saying was he's not really worried about what's going 90 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: to happen down the track. He just wants to be 91 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: able to take one step at a time, knowing that 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 3: everything that's happening to him will will strengthen him and 93 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: help him to div That's an incredibly resilient mindset, whether 94 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 3: or not you have a Christian background or not, it's 95 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: a powerful mindset because when we look at the adversities 96 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: we face, or when we talk to our kids about 97 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: the challenges they're facing, it's really amazing to say, well, 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: I wonder what we can learn from this. I love 99 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: the quote by a guy called Epictitis. When I say 100 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: a guy, I mean he lived a couple of thousand 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: years ago. He was a stoic philosopher and epic Titus 102 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: said people are not disturbed by things, but by the 103 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: view they take of them. 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: I just this is such a big perspective thing to think. 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: If we're facing a trial right now thinking about post 106 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: traumatic stress disorder versus thinking about the opportunity for post 107 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: traumatic growth, like I imagine, it would significantly change our 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: tenacity and our willingness to have the fight justin. 109 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: That's the idea, and that's why I've written about these 110 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: things in the book. You know, if you want to, 111 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: let's say you want to become a better bike rider, 112 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 3: you don't ride along the floor or downhill. You get 113 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: on that bike and you're right uphill because that's what 114 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: strengthens you. And when we look at the adversities that 115 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: we face in life as a character building, strengthening activity 116 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 3: and exercise, I think that we can actually say quite clearly, 117 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: if we look at our own lives, I am who 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: I am today because of the challenges that I've worked through, 119 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: because of the challenges that I've overcome. And that's a 120 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 3: that's a wonderful, resilience bursting way of looking at life 121 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 3: once again, because it says I can grow through adversity, 122 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: I can grow through trauma, and I can do more 123 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: with my life because what I'm going through right now 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: is awful. This is going to help me later on. 125 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: It's so very very good. I think you need to 126 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: relabel that book by the way, nine Ways to Becoming 127 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: more Resilient, because I think anybody who reads it will 128 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: will develop those skills as well. 129 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: Just for yeah, just change the title and resell it justinat. 130 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: Nine Ways Zillient Child. Author Justin Coulson is our guests 131 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: today from Happy Families dot com do AU. We really 132 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: appreciate I love the phrase post traumatic growth. 133 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, my pleasure. 134 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for chatting of course, for that book Nine Ways 135 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: to a Resilient Child and more books, podcasts, and programs, 136 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: visit happy families dot com dot au. Or if you're 137 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: interested in having doctor Justin come and speak to your 138 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: school or organization, go to Justincilson dot com