1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hello, Katie Wolf and three sixty online at mixed one 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: O four nine dot com just Enterprise. The Deputy mayor 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: of Valice Springs is looking set to compete against the 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: National Senator Sam McMahon for the country Liberal parties coveted 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: Senate spot and she joins me on the line right now. 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Jacinta. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: Now, well, I saw this in the Australian a little 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: bit earlier this morning and they had confirmed that you 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: have said you are going to run for pre selection. 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 3: Why have you made this decision? 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: But I've thought long and hard about the decision, and 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: obviously you know there are others who are also running 14 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: for this squad. I wasn't the first to put my 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: hand up, and I guess for me, knowing that others 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: had chose to put their hand up, I thought, well, 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: I too will put my hand up because for me, 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: it's the opportunity to rep present the entire entirety of 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: the Northern Carriage. The Senator is a place where you 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: can affect change. You know, the committees are available to 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: you as a Senator to be able to enact that 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: change as well. And you know, I feel like I'm 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: certainly ready for something like this. Now. 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: Obviously Senator Sam McMahon is currently in that seat. 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: Do you think she's doing a good job. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 2: Look, I think she's done the best she can and 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: there are others of us who believe we can do 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: a really good job in that position. So that's why 29 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: we've nominated. 30 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: How many of you do you reckon there's going to be. 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: I think there will. There will probably be two others 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 2: sides for myself, but you know what, on the day, 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 2: you never know if others decide to put their hand 34 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: up as well, so I can't be sure really, And. 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: How come you've decided to go for for this electorate 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: rather than one of the others. I guess you could 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: have tried to fill that spot that will we not 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: so that there's a couple that are you know that 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: you can run for. 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: But why have you decided to go for this one? 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess, Like I said, it gives the opportunity 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: to represent the whole of the Northern Territory as opposed 43 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: to you know, electorates within the Northern Territory. And I've 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: always been very passionate about fighting on behalf of Territorians, 45 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: and particularly marginalized Territorians. So for me, you know, it 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: makes sense to have the opportunity to be able to 47 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: represent the whole of the Northern Territory. 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: What's the process now in terms of actually, you know, 49 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: winning that pre selection. 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: Well, you know that decision is up to the party 51 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: during the pre selection process which will take place later 52 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: this month. And yeah, it's a party that will determine 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: who will be the candidate going forward for the next 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: schedule election. 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: Justindra, are you worried that it's going to be a 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: bit of an. 57 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Ugly pre selection staff or do you reckon that it's 58 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: all going to be played out pretty fairly. 59 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: Look, my priority is about fighting on behalf of the 60 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 2: Northern Territory. You know, I never my intention was never 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: to create a stoush. But I'm passionately led to fight 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: for the benefit of the territory. I've been encouraged by many, 63 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: many Territorians to do this, many Australians across the country 64 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: to do this, and it's in the best interests of 65 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: Territorians and Australians that I'm doing it. So yeah, it 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: was never, never about trying to create any kind of 67 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: spoush And who would. 68 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: You sit with you if you were to win in Canberra, 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: would you sit with the with the Nationals or with 70 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: the Liberal Party? 71 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: And well, that's a decision that the party, I believe, 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: is to make. That I will be led by the 73 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: party with regard to the party of them. You know, 74 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 2: we are uniquely the country Liberal Party, uh, and we're 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: in a unique position where our interests are about representing 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: the whole of the Northern territory where we sit. So yeah, 77 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: I'll be led by the party in terms of that decision. 78 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it'll be an interesting one because we 79 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: know that Sam mcmahonus has sat with the Nationals and 80 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: and you know. 81 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: I guess over the years. 82 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: I don't know whether that has always been the case, 83 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: but from what I can gather and correct me if 84 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but you do seem to have a fairly 85 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: good relationship with the coalition and. 86 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: And the year of the Prime Minister. 87 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I have a great relationship with many coalition 88 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: members from the Liberals and the Nationals. I've over the 89 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: years supported the l MP in fundraising in different parts 90 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: of the country. You know, I have been guest speaker 91 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: for the LMP throughout Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria. So yeah, 92 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: you know, for me, it's, you know, naturally a natural 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: progression to head toward attempting to try to get into 94 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: the Fedral Parliament. But like I said, I've had the 95 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: support of both the Lives and the Maps in terms 96 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: of the coalition and I'm very grateful for that. 97 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: And Jacinta, I know you just said then that you 98 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: have assisted the LMP with some of their fundraising over 99 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: the years. Will they be supporting you in this race? 100 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've already had a branch in New 101 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: South Wales hold a fundraiser and you know, they just 102 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: held a fundraiser in the hope that I would run 103 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: for you know, that I would nominate for any kind 104 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: of seat. They didn't know which seat that I'd be 105 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: nominating for, but they went ahead and held a fundraiser 106 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 2: because they had that belief in me. And I know 107 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: that there's certainly others other branches across the countries who 108 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: are really keen also to do fundraising on behalf of 109 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 2: me as well, So I'm really grateful for that. 110 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: Justin just finally this morning, I will ask you and 111 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: I think I sort of touched on this before. But 112 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: why do you reckon you'll be a better rep than 113 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: the other people who are putting their hands up? 114 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: And indeed Senator Sam McMahon, who's current. 115 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: In me, Yeah, look, I think you know, for me, 116 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: it's about trying to create balance in our parliament. I 117 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: think we've got to have a balance, you know, in 118 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: terms of young and old. Culturally, I know that you 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: know a lot of well, one of the major issues 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory are indigenous issues. I am a 121 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: person of both mixed heritage and something that I have 122 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: a great wealth of knowledge in and certainly the ability 123 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: to fight in the Senate for I know that. You know, 124 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: there have been many MPs who have sort of come 125 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: to me and said, you know, we find it really 126 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,119 Speaker 2: difficult to fight on Indigenous issues because we get called, 127 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: you know, shut down, called racist because of our background. 128 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: You know. Then they've told me you're unique in that. 129 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 2: Of course, you know, I have an Indigenous background. Therefore 130 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: I can push back on those sorts of issues. And 131 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 2: you know, I've worked with the Center for Independent Studies 132 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: for a number of years now, since twenty and sixteen, 133 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: and while I've been director of the Indigenous Program I've 134 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: worked very closely with my colleagues across issues of public policy, 135 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: you know, foreign policy, education, help, economic policy and all 136 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: those sorts of areas that I've got a grasp across 137 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: many of those areas, and that's what I want to 138 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: bring to Parliament should I be nominated. 139 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: Now, just Sindra know that that Senator Sam McMahon has 140 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: also spoken to the Australian and has said that you 141 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: should instead be targeting the labor held marginal seat of 142 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: Lingiari and Solomon. 143 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: What would you say to that comment? 144 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: Oh, look, I say that there are those who I 145 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: know who are going to put their hand up for 146 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: those seats, and I know that you know I've previously 147 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: run for one of those seats and it was very challenging, 148 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: very very challenging, of course, but as I said, the 149 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: Senate seat gives me the opportunity to represent the entire 150 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: Northern territory. 151 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: Price always good to catch up with you. We really 152 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: appreciate your time this morning. And so is it decided? 153 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: What day is it decided who's going to actually to 154 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: contest in those seats. 155 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: We should know by the twenty sixth of June. 156 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll talk to you again in the 157 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: very near future, no doubt. 158 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: We really appreciate your time today. 159 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 160 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. That is the well. 161 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: She's currently the other Springs Deputy mayor just Enterprise, but 162 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: as we know, has announced that she is putting her 163 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: hand up for the Senate spot for the Country Country 164 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: Liberal Party. That seat is currently or That spot is 165 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: currently held by National Senator Sam McMahon. Some saying that 166 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: it's going to set things up for an ugly pre 167 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: selection stash by the sounds of it from what just 168 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: enter Price has said there. She doesn't want it to 169 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: become that way. You know, I sort of see it 170 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: as it's a competition. Like any competition, you play as 171 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: fairly as possible, would be my advice to anybody having 172 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: a crack at poultics.