1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Federal changes to the childcare subsidy take effect from Saturday 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: and we'll deliver what's being reported as cheaper childcare for 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: around one point two million families across the country from July. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: More than five thousand families in Darwen and Palmerston are 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: set to benefit from the change. And joining me on 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: the line to explain it all to us is Labour's 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: Member for Solomon, Luke Goslin. Good morning to you, Luke. 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: How are you pretty good now? Luke? Before I get 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: to those childcare changes, obviously, the Federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: in town yesterday you all went out to Charles Dalwin 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: University to turn the do a bit of a SOD 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: turning out there, talk us through where things are at 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: with CDU. 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great event out there at CDU, 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: and it's another piece of important education infrastructure, like a 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: three story building. And yeah, we did the ceremonial turning 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: of the SOD but we're putting ten million dollars into 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: that facility and CDU putting even more than that in 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: around sixteen million into that facility. And there is a 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: research element to it, but it's mainly about training our 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: healthcare workers for the care economy, because we've got a 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: big we've got a lack of healthcare workers that are 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: skilled and care economy workers. And by providing simulation facilities 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: and that's what it's all about these days in training 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 2: people to be nurses or other healthcare workers is put 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: them in a situation. But that is really lifelike mannequins 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: that have a range of responses or like ailments, injuries, 29 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: and the healthcare workers are taken through their paces. So 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: we saw a bit of that yesterday. But this is 31 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: going to be a start of the art facility and 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: it'll mean that more territory young people are going to 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: be trained at CDU and go into our health facilities 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 2: here and then we've got a better chance of keeping 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: them here if they're territorial and not coming in from 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: in the state. 37 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: Now, tell us in terms of the construction timeline, how 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: soon do you reckon that's going to be up and running. 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, it is a really 40 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: good thing for our young people to be able to 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: study here and grow our own. 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, really is. There's some Yeah, they're cracking onto it, 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: but they had the artist's pictures and they're there yesterday 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: of what the finished facility look like, and it's going 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: to be fantastic. Is behind the Asiki building there at CDU. 46 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: It's a great location and they're going to now that 47 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: the fundings will been approved through the budget, they're getting 48 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: into construction pretty quickly. And we're really needing to increase 49 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: our facilities as well because with the CDU medical program 50 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: that we're waiting to find out how many Commonwealth funded 51 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: medical school programs that will get for Child Dalen University, 52 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: it's really creating the medical program support as well that 53 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: we'll need for training our own doctors all the way 54 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 2: through with cd So that's exciting as well as this 55 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: facility will contribute to that, so we'll not only have 56 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: healthcare workers registered nurses, that doctors trained out at CDU. 57 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Now. Look, I know that there's been some well I 58 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: touched on this just a moment ago, some changes to 59 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: the childcare subsidy taking effect from Saturday. Can you break 60 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: down the numbers on how much families will actually save 61 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: on childcare with these changes? 62 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for everyone's personal situation, there's a calculator where 63 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: you put in your income and so forth. Of got 64 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: a thing in the anteen use today which has got 65 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: a QR code. You can scan that. But I'm also 66 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: putting it on my Facebook page, so you can scan 67 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: that QR code, fill out your own personal family information, 68 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: and that'll let you know how much extra to go 69 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: towards early childhood education and childcare costs. This means, but 70 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: to give you an example, if there's a territory family 71 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: listening that's on about one hundred and twenty k combined income, 72 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: that you'll be paying around seventeen one hundred dollars less 73 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: than you otherwise would be paying through the increase to 74 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: the childcare subsidy. And for a lower income family that 75 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: might be on around eighty k, the childcare subsidy that 76 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: that family will see risers up to ninety percent, So 77 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: that's more money to that family to go towards childcare costs. 78 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: And after families are paying either their mortgage daw or 79 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: their rants, probably the next biggest expanse is that child 80 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: care or early childhood education fee. So yeah, five thousand families, 81 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: it's a really important thing, and let's let's parents get 82 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: back to work when they need to, and it's going 83 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: to be good for the kids because the early childhood 84 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: education and when in the younger years when their brains 85 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: are developing. That interaction. It also lets parents get back 86 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: to work if they want, if it's good for parents, 87 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: gives parents a break, gives the kids the education they 88 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: need in those younger years, and it's going to be 89 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: good for the territory all around. And we've seen over 90 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: the last ten years the child care fees have increased 91 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: by around fifty percent, So this is in response to that, 92 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: helping families a bit more with the costs. And we've 93 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: also tasked the agriable see to look into increases. Like 94 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: every year at the start of a new financial year, 95 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 2: childcare centers, really childhood education centers, sons put their fees 96 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: up of their buhry, we'll see to make sure that 97 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: there's no increases that are unreasonable, while the Productivity Commission 98 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: does a broad based review on the future. 99 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's interesting. It is interesting that you mentioned 100 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: that look because I have got a message that just 101 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: came through it and it says, Hi, Kadie, childcare won't 102 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: be much cheaper. I know of four childcares who've put 103 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: their daily fees up in the last week in light 104 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: of the July one changes one Palmerston childcare charging one 105 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: hundred and forty six dollars a day, another childcare in 106 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: the rural area one hundred and ten dollars a day. 107 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, and so I guess that is 108 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: the concern. I think everybody understands that, you know, our 109 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: childcare workers they deserve every cent that they are paid, 110 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: if not more. But you know, but it is really 111 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: it's a tough juggle for people. And you and I 112 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: both know we've got young kids that are past that 113 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: stage now, but you know, it's almost like having another 114 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 1: mortgage paying old care phees every week. 115 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Catie is huge, and it's understandable appearance, you know, 116 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: to toss up whether doing the extra work is worth 117 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: it or not. And that's a balance at all families 118 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: go through. And I guess I just encourage those people 119 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: who think that their childcare center's early childhood education centers 120 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: have increased there fees by an unreasonable kind of yearly 121 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: indexation amount to contact my office with the details and 122 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: we'll send that through to the age we'll see to 123 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: have a look at. But I guess the main point 124 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: is is even without sort of the yearly indexation of 125 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: the fee. It's just so expensive. It's going up, as 126 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: I said, So this more childcare subsidy for those families 127 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: is going to help pay those bills. But we are 128 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: we are really committed to making sure that early childcare 129 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: care education is sustainable because if people start pulling out 130 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: of it, then the kids are getting less of that 131 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: early education that they need and that affects them for 132 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: the rest of their life. 133 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Luke Gosling, I always appreciate your time. Thank 134 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: you very much for having a chat with us this morning. 135 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: And Katie, thanks for bringing up that Bali flight issue. Yes, 136 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: I've been working with the Minister for the Defense's offers 137 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: to make sure that Defense is giving the updates that 138 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 2: the Anti government needs, that the Darwin International Airboard needs, 139 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: and that the carriers need for certainty. So yelling to 140 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: be unbelievable, yep, Yeah. 141 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: It's pretty unbelievable, isn't it. I mean we're trying to 142 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: work out over what period of time now those flights 143 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: are going to be canceled for. But we really only 144 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: realized that this was going to happen because one of 145 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: our listeners had raised it with this yesterday, saying that 146 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: they weren't able to book flights, And we all understood 147 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: that there was work happening on the runway, but I 148 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: didn't think that it was going to see flights canceled 149 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: or not able to actually go ahead. 150 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there has been negotiations going on for quite 151 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: some time now to get the balance right because there's 152 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: a body of work that needs to be done to 153 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 2: the runway and that has to happen. And what it's 154 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: been is how long should that work be done over 155 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 2: and the way off between? How many hours a day 156 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: parts of the runway need to be closed to enable 157 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: the most amount of flights that land and take off 158 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: before parts of the runway need to be closed temporarily 159 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: for another eight hours or so of work. And do 160 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: we sort of do as much as we can quickly 161 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: and or do we kind of have more availability the 162 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: runway for longer in the day, but then that'll take 163 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: longer to do the runway repair work. I understood from 164 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: the Department of Defense, and the information has been given 165 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: to the airport and providers. But if again, if people 166 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: want to contact me with these Jetstar flights in availabilities 167 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: or the changes to the programming, I'm happy to again 168 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: go to the Minister's office and get them clarification from 169 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: Defense if we need it. 170 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: So look from your perspective, that information has now been 171 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: provided to the airport in terms of, you know, how 172 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: long that particular runway will be impacted, and to the 173 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: providers as well. I you know, in terms of these 174 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: jet Star flights to Bali not going ahead, they should 175 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: have an idea of how long that period's. 176 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: Going to be. Yeah, that's right, Katie. When I was 177 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: in Camber for Parliament over the last it's nearly a 178 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 2: month down there. We work through all of that, and 179 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: because there was concerns that there wasn't enough certainty and 180 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: there were still some negotiations going on about the length 181 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: of time and the hours of the day that the 182 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: run parts of the runway would need to be closed. Yeah, 183 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: so that information should be in the posession of all 184 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: the stakeholders. And what's happened now is I guess as 185 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: the public has started to book flights, they're becoming more 186 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 2: aware of it, and you know, if we need to 187 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: get some more information out to the public about about it, 188 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: we will do that. 189 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: Well, we'll definitely try to follow this up because I reckon. 190 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: This is going to be a bit of a shock 191 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: to a lot of people that are hearing this this 192 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: morning for the first time. You know, we all understood 193 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: that the works to that runway would have an impact, 194 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: but I don't think anybody was expecting that, you know, 195 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: you wouldn't see flights to Bali for a month. 196 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we need more flights in and out of Dowla, 197 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 2: not less flights. At the same time, we've got to 198 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: do the work to the runway, so it's a balance. 199 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, if you don't get the answers you need, 200 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: let me not cat. 201 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, most definitely. Well, Luke, thanks as always for your 202 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: time this morning. We'll talk to you again very soon. 203 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: Cheers, but thank you