Speaker 1: Flex and Keita Inflex and Frooms Daily podcast Glad to
Speaker 1: be back, haven't gone anywhere?
Speaker 2: We live here we do.
Speaker 1: Coming up though this episode, I'm gonna say it's one
Speaker 1: of my favorites because we really touched on everything. What
Speaker 1: happens when you have two kids and your name one
Speaker 1: winner and one looser.
Speaker 3: You won't believe it.
Speaker 2: You will be shook to your core.
Speaker 4: I'm also going to talk about a little experience, a
Speaker 4: little personal.
Speaker 1: Experience, experience, what experience, you know what?
Speaker 4: Earlier I was texting somebody and I literally said, I experience.
Speaker 2: It's what is it? Experience? But like I c k,
Speaker 2: it was an experience? Oh like it was icky? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was an experience. Come on now, if we want
Speaker 2: to make that, we can probably like that at TikTok.
Speaker 2: You just start trademarking. I'm a trademarket. Don't make me so.
Speaker 4: Essentially, I was publicly shamed in a public forum on
Speaker 4: a public street outside my local supermarket. It was very upsetting,
Speaker 4: and ultimately it was exciting because I meant I had
Speaker 4: something to talk about on cater.
Speaker 2: Being shamed within five kilometer radius of your own home.
Speaker 2: I don't like it. It's pretty heavy.
Speaker 4: But as I say later the next day, I was
Speaker 4: publicly acknowledged the same five k radius so long. Yes,
Speaker 4: so everything's equal and everything comes back. It's a circle
Speaker 4: in life.
Speaker 2: You win some of your loose. Let's get into it.
Speaker 3: This is flex and Frooms on Cada.
Speaker 1: We have been waiting for this one for me. Tell
Speaker 1: us all about it. This is my latest public shaming.
Speaker 1: It occurred on the weekend. Let me paint a picture
Speaker 1: for you. Flexi.
Speaker 4: I go to my chosen supermarket or brand names. But
Speaker 4: you know, I'm more of a yeah, fresh food kind
Speaker 4: of girl.
Speaker 2: Fresh food my people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've got all of my stuff.
Speaker 2: I was going to go home mate dinner. I mean,
Speaker 2: what do you get? Can we get like a quick
Speaker 2: quick Elevani's.
Speaker 4: Cucumber tomato, corn, chicken taco pack and some yogurt.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: It's trotting home in my green bag. So I'm looking good.
Speaker 4: I'm looking environmentally conscious. I feel great, like I've slept
Speaker 4: a lot the night before, that kind of vibe. I'm
Speaker 4: walking along I leave the supermarket and I like, look
Speaker 4: at this guy on the street just as you're walking past,
Speaker 4: and then he kind of like does a double take
Speaker 4: at me, and he goes.
Speaker 2: He recognizes a superstar in his midst He goes fromes
Speaker 2: and I go, I turn around.
Speaker 4: I go, hello, Doll, Like I've been doing this thing
Speaker 4: lately if anyone talks to me on the street to
Speaker 4: go hi Dole.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why, I don't know. You don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. I think I just am socially awkward. I
Speaker 2: don't know. Because someone goes like flex, it's.
Speaker 4: Like it's not a high. It's like, oh yeah, what,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2: I'm like, high, Dole. Okay, So anyway, I'm like, hi Doll.
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, like what are you up to, doll?
Speaker 4: Because he's just standing on the street kind of.
Speaker 2: Like you're on the same foot path. He's across the road.
Speaker 4: We are on the same footpath. He's like literally cross
Speaker 4: paths like looked him, looked him, kept walking. He goes,
Speaker 4: I turn around. So now I'm halfway turned. I'm like,
Speaker 4: do I stay and talk to you?
Speaker 2: Like? Is this going to make you walk with That's
Speaker 2: a tricky one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And he's there with a woman and she kind of
Speaker 4: looks a bit confused as to what's going on.
Speaker 2: She's not familiar with the CEO. No, yeah, And.
Speaker 4: It turns out she wasn't familiar with him either. So
Speaker 4: he has a beer in his hand two pm Sunday,
Speaker 4: no shame.
Speaker 2: But he's on the street.
Speaker 4: There is no bar nearby, so he's just got a
Speaker 4: random legal I don't know his name, drinking his beer
Speaker 4: and I look at him in the eye. His eyes
Speaker 4: are bloodshot. First thing he says to me is I'm
Speaker 4: so drunk. I'm so drunk. I'm so sad. I'm like,
Speaker 4: why are you sad? And then he goes, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I'm just so drunk. Hey, And then I go, oh,
Speaker 4: do you guys know each other? She's like no, she's
Speaker 4: working your dogs. So what she stops for? He's accosted
Speaker 4: her and she's obviously stuck. And then he goes, oh,
Speaker 4: like i'd love your work, Like love your work, but
Speaker 4: selling out.
Speaker 2: He's like, you got a stop selling out?
Speaker 4: Don't sell out, like remember your freominess, Like, don't sell out?
Speaker 1: Whoa this is very familiar. How is a stranger telling
Speaker 1: you to remember who you are?
Speaker 2: I'm not prepared for this.
Speaker 4: I just want to have a cool, chill day by myself.
Speaker 4: I'm having some alone time. I'm not on the internet today.
Speaker 2: You come up to yes, I'm not clocked on.
Speaker 1: Literally, he's a very on the clock discussion about my
Speaker 1: career trajectory. So when he said that to you, what
Speaker 1: was your initial response? Did you think he was joking?
Speaker 4: I kind of laughed it off. I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: hah yeah. And my instinct or what I wanted to say,
Speaker 4: was like, what do you mean what part? But then
Speaker 4: I thought he's drunk. He's not gonna give me a
Speaker 4: good answer. And do I really want the opinion of
Speaker 4: this person that's going to say to a relative stranger
Speaker 4: that they've sold out. He's talking to me about my
Speaker 4: financial and career decisions.
Speaker 2: I'm not in the mood.
Speaker 4: And I say to this girl, I go, hmm, I
Speaker 4: was nice because I'm like, you think I'm a sellout.
Speaker 4: So I'm keeping face. I'm feeling upset and annoyed.
Speaker 2: I walk away. This chick like comes with me. I'm like,
Speaker 2: how is that?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: I can't believe that he said that. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they said have a good day, but she doesn't know
Speaker 2: who you are, so she's just also like.
Speaker 4: Well, what he's like, He's like her, Oh, do you
Speaker 4: know this chick? It's from since she goes, Oh, I
Speaker 4: thought you looked familiar. I've seen you before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so kind of be a stranger in your own
Speaker 1: suburb honestly jumps it everywhere. It's a tricky one. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that you fought the urge to defend yourself because
Speaker 1: the thing about human nature is that you will be
Speaker 1: misunderstood more often than not, and that really hurts my heart.
Speaker 1: But the more you encounter it, the easiest to deal
Speaker 1: with it. I think it's really interesting when people think
Speaker 1: they know you, not you generally, but when just people,
Speaker 1: when they think their observation of you is the reality
Speaker 1: of you totally. In his instance, he was like, what
Speaker 1: I'm perceiving of you to be true is the fact
Speaker 1: I should pass that information. But realistically selling out, like
Speaker 1: you don't do that many spanos. I want to google
Speaker 1: the definition of sellout. Anyone who's sacrificis artistic integrity in
Speaker 1: an effort to become more successful or popular.
Speaker 2: Oh I'll do that, Sign me up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The thing that I couldn't really grasp with, and I
Speaker 4: think you make a really good point saying that they're
Speaker 4: just seeing what they perceive and then assuming that that's
Speaker 4: a reality, is that if this man really knew me,
Speaker 4: if he was a true employee, he would know that
Speaker 4: I have been sold out from the very beginning. My
Speaker 4: first job, I tell you, often selling tint to the cayard.
Speaker 4: The tints worth one hundred dollars, I'm selling it for
Speaker 4: one thousand, five hundred.
Speaker 2: Do you want to keep that in?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so if you listen to this, I have a
Speaker 5: really bad habit of same shit and then being like,
Speaker 5: oh no, we actually we got to study it, say
Speaker 5: take it out incremining Now I'll happily stand by that.
Speaker 2: It was a different time. Yeah.
Speaker 4: My first job at a or my first internship at
Speaker 4: a radio station, I was making vines. Fernandos go get
Speaker 4: a job at Pedestrian. I'm getting paid my money out
Speaker 4: of the salary that Nike gave them. Gave them X
Speaker 4: amount of money to bring on an editor. So my
Speaker 4: health and fitness editor for Nike. Then I selling vitamins
Speaker 4: through my riding. Like I've been a sell it from
Speaker 4: the very beginning. I studied advertising. I understand the intersection
Speaker 4: between creating entertainment and selling products.
Speaker 2: So then I to go on the bio babe, it
Speaker 2: actually is in my boot. That's incredible, do you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 4: So, and also it was just annoying because I have
Speaker 4: had I feel as if I've had more opportunities to
Speaker 4: sell out that I haven't.
Speaker 1: Can I can I ask a question. I've got my
Speaker 1: hand raised, because there is more than one of us.
Speaker 2: Miss Willian. If you have.
Speaker 1: Been a sellout from the beginning, what was what rabbed
Speaker 1: you the wrong way about him perceiving that in you,
Speaker 1: because then now it seems like what he said was
Speaker 1: a compliment, like he's perceived it to be a capital
Speaker 1: A artist, a capital C creative, when in fact you
Speaker 1: are a seller.
Speaker 4: I think it's more that this person was saying it
Speaker 4: as if I've changed.
Speaker 2: Oh, and you're like, I've been the same.
Speaker 5: I have.
Speaker 4: Literally It's like when people say, I don't forget where
Speaker 4: you come from, don't care who you are, Like I've
Speaker 4: known who I am the whole time. Like I'm not
Speaker 4: thinking that I'm amazing now, Like I've always believed in myself.
Speaker 4: I've always been the same. I've always had similar creative ambitions,
Speaker 4: you know. So it's like it's quite discombobulating when somebody
Speaker 4: who is willing to stop a stranger in the street
Speaker 4: and give them career advice or like tell them, oh,
Speaker 4: don't do this, Like they're all the kind of people
Speaker 4: I want in my ranks anyway.
Speaker 1: So it's offensive because he hasn't seen the consistency exactly.
Speaker 1: He's thought, you've been fashoned about for a couple of
Speaker 1: years and most recently got your come up, and now
Speaker 1: you've sold out, when in reality you've been consistently selling out. Therefore,
Speaker 1: he's not recognizing the amount of effort it's taken to maintain.
Speaker 4: I understand absolutely, and it's just it's just not nice
Speaker 4: to get feedback on the street, like, yeah, I've never
Speaker 4: understood that. Maybe it's also because I feel like sometimes
Speaker 4: the kind of people that come up to people in
Speaker 4: person are quite This is not saying everyone that does
Speaker 4: it is like this, but are quite like overly confident.
Speaker 4: And it feels like a bit of a word vomited
Speaker 4: thing to say to somebody like obviously you haven't really
Speaker 4: thought about it, because you obviously like me because you
Speaker 4: want to get a photo and stuff, and you're being
Speaker 4: complimentary outside of that comment. But it felt very much
Speaker 4: Australian culture. Tall poppy syndrome, like pulling me up into
Speaker 4: line in case I've become too successful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is said a lot about your audience. Well,
Speaker 1: it's I'm hoping that I don't have these interactions. Like
Speaker 1: we've spoken about a couple of instances where you've interacted
Speaker 1: with your people and have been like, whoa, this is
Speaker 1: a very odd thing for you to say to me.
Speaker 2: This is an odd way for us to be interacting.
Speaker 2: There might be a.
Speaker 1: Dissonance between who you are and how your audience is
Speaker 1: consuming you. You know, because I could imagine, like you said,
Speaker 1: this person is a fan of you, so their intention.
Speaker 2: Was not to offend.
Speaker 1: So why is there a dissonance between what offends you
Speaker 1: and what they think will offend you.
Speaker 4: Well, nine times out of ten, any kind of interaction
Speaker 4: I have with anybody is so positive. Like the next
Speaker 4: day I went to this local cafe and the chef
Speaker 4: came out and.
Speaker 2: Was be like, oh my god, I love you and
Speaker 2: we have the nicest chat food. Question Mark, Well, I
Speaker 2: don't do things for free, so why should he? Okay,
Speaker 2: so just say there wasn't a connection. There was, There
Speaker 2: wasn't that deep.
Speaker 3: This is flex and frooms on Kada.
Speaker 4: There was a man that in nineteen fifty eight had
Speaker 4: two sons and he decided to name them Winner and Loser.
Speaker 4: So the craziest thing, are they dead?
Speaker 1: Like? What is the solution? Not the solution, but the
Speaker 1: like the story about their lifetime? Did one of them
Speaker 1: grow up to be a winner? Want a loser? Or
Speaker 1: do we do not have that DARTI yet because they're
Speaker 1: fifty five. Yeah, we have the data.
Speaker 4: They both grew up on the grounds of the Wagner Projects,
Speaker 4: which is in New York lower socio economic area. Their
Speaker 4: names never attracted much attention or ridicule among the other
Speaker 4: children in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Loser, I find it hard to believe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, weird, But Losers later said as
Speaker 4: a child, you don't know it's a bad name, and
Speaker 4: later in school everyone knows you, so it's become normal.
Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot of people probably think it's like
Speaker 2: a nickname.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: During with his distinctive name Winner, Lane should have achieved
Speaker 4: a lot, but exactly the opposite turned out to be true.
Speaker 4: The exact reasons for this can no longer be determined today.
Speaker 4: In any case, he went off the rails quite early
Speaker 4: because His criminal career started at the age of nineteen
Speaker 4: when he was arrested for aggravated result. Five years later,
Speaker 4: he was found breaking into a house. Over time, he
Speaker 4: did thirty crimes or offenses, including all of the different
Speaker 4: ones that are quite bad, even including auto theft.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that bad. Of all the crimes, I
Speaker 2: thought toft the coolest one. It's the coolest theft.
Speaker 4: But around this time his brother actually received His brother
Speaker 4: called lose E Lane, received a scholarship for a prep
Speaker 4: school in Connecticut, and then he joined the police force
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 1: So that's what's happening. Loser overcompensated little to his name.
Speaker 1: Winner was on an invincible high from the jump. Winner said,
Speaker 1: I got this. I'm destined for whatever I want to do.
Speaker 1: I'm going to win.
Speaker 2: I love that so much. Winn A Lane and lose
Speaker 2: E Lane Laane makes it ten times worse, no better.
Speaker 2: Those are great names. Win a Lane reminds you of
Speaker 2: this train I.
Speaker 1: Saw on TikTok where it's like, what were to be
Speaker 1: good names if we didn't know their preconceived meaning, Like
Speaker 1: allegedly great name.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good point. Allegedly serendipitously. Oh stunning, Yeah, Sarah,
Speaker 4: for sure. Maybe that's what remember that trained a while ago.
Speaker 2: Like Dave is short for day for it, So I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Flex and Firms on It's time.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling congerial and feverish because I get to speak
Speaker 1: about Love Island. I don't want to bore you with
Speaker 1: the specifics of this character's name.
Speaker 2: Character. That's to humanize it. It's very dehumanizing from you
Speaker 2: a contestant. Contestant two c words. Okay, hold on a second.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to boy with the specifics of
Speaker 1: like their individual couplings. But I was trying to think
Speaker 1: of what I'm learning as I'm watching it, because I
Speaker 1: do like to tell I do like to tell people
Speaker 1: that Love Island is like a anthropological sociological thing. If
Speaker 1: that's the case, well what am I learning as I'm
Speaker 1: consuming it?
Speaker 2: Side note, it is a.
Speaker 1: Lot a big investment to watch the show full on.
Speaker 1: It's like once a day.
Speaker 2: Complete listening to Caita for this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: How are you gonna do daily Flex and Rooms and
Speaker 1: the podcast and Love Island and then go to work?
Speaker 3: It can't happen.
Speaker 2: I think again, stop going to work.
Speaker 1: Okay, so what I've learned so far, bear with me,
Speaker 1: please and see how this fits on for size.
Speaker 2: Don't knock it until you've really thought about it. Okay.
Speaker 1: So Love Ireland is teaching me that scarcity and fewer
Speaker 1: options is the perfect breeding ground for love.
Speaker 2: Are you asking my opinion? How do you feel about
Speaker 2: that statement?
Speaker 4: Completely agree? I completely agree. It is Make no mistake.
Speaker 4: We are in an era.
Speaker 2: We use that term often. We this is an era
Speaker 2: before off. He said, what do you say, I'm in
Speaker 2: my like shallow era. I did say that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think it's a lie, but it's a point.
Speaker 1: Think.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm over the microphone spitting my spittleer's on your face.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, It creates an environment where you find somebody because
Speaker 4: you don't have any options. It's like when you're at McDonald's.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The decration for this, spanno, we have to start post cost,
Speaker 2: come to the check. I don't even know.
Speaker 4: I'm McDonald's hundreds always does come with checks, so I'm
Speaker 4: happy to pivot.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's like in the olden days when you went to
Speaker 4: the dance and you're going to stay with your partner
Speaker 4: for however many years you.
Speaker 1: Speaking from experience, remember that TikTok let someone comments. We
Speaker 1: posted a TikTok and somebody commented and said, they're older
Speaker 1: than I thought.
Speaker 2: It was. But this is the point.
Speaker 1: I know that when we talk about dating and romance,
Speaker 1: people make the observation that there are too many options.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's that. I think too many
Speaker 1: options and scarcity is not on the same spectrum. I
Speaker 1: feel as though when people have too many options, they
Speaker 1: think that all the options are for them, which is untrue.
Speaker 1: But when there are a few options, people take the
Speaker 1: time to figure out how the options could work for them.
Speaker 2: It's a different approach.
Speaker 1: So in Love Island in particular, this year was different
Speaker 1: to last year because last year, each contestant had to
Speaker 1: pick who they wanted to couple up with.
Speaker 2: This year, when they.
Speaker 1: All arrived, the publics picked for them, and immediately the
Speaker 1: majority of these couples tried so hard to make it work.
Speaker 1: Of course, because they were like, we've been chosen and
Speaker 1: because everybody has a couple, we don't have any options,
Speaker 1: and I would rather be with you than be alone.
Speaker 1: There was this one couple in India and Kenna. Two
Speaker 1: weeks they did not kiss, and we're both convinced.
Speaker 2: That they had to try action for each other.
Speaker 1: Hmm, this is the same left Alan people are rooting
Speaker 1: in these communal spaces and you can't even get a
Speaker 1: kiss and every day doing.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, where do you think this is going?
Speaker 2: Do you see it? For me?
Speaker 1: Even when all the signs were saying you two do
Speaker 1: not like each other, just the fact that they've been
Speaker 1: paired together and had no other options was enough to
Speaker 1: make them fight really hard for it. And you might say,
Speaker 1: flex are you advocating for arranged relationships?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if.
Speaker 4: Your parents arranged for you to be in a marriage
Speaker 4: and it actually meant that you'd be happily ever after,
Speaker 4: but you know that at the time, would you push
Speaker 4: against it?
Speaker 2: What's Liz trying to pick her husband for me?
Speaker 4: For?
Speaker 2: She already does that. She'll go that, the doctor will wars.
Speaker 1: I saw this really lovely guy, really and she's sweet
Speaker 1: like that, though, would you ever she needs to increase
Speaker 1: her taste for me?
Speaker 2: I feel like she's like she sees a tall person.
Speaker 2: She's like, look, he was so tall. My dad always
Speaker 2: since men are way more attractive than they are. It's
Speaker 2: always a good book. And Teller shows me his Facebook
Speaker 2: what what is that?
Speaker 3: What is that? Flex?
Speaker 4: And a while ago I got a DM from a
Speaker 4: woman saying, absolutely loving the Flexing Firms past. You can
Speaker 4: get that on iHeartRadio or wherever else you podcasts quick plug.
Speaker 4: She goes, absolutely love the podcast. And often you talk
Speaker 4: about things and you relate things to other things, and
Speaker 4: flex sounds like she doesn't get at it. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: I thought that's very unusual because I have feel as
Speaker 4: though I'm the one that's not getting anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I understand you very well.
Speaker 1: But then examples were made where I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess you're right.
Speaker 4: For the example, you will talk about something and I
Speaker 4: will relate it to something else entirely, and it makes
Speaker 4: complete sense to me in my brain. But you don't
Speaker 4: get it because maybe we don't have the same brain.
Speaker 1: But you're making it sound like you're drawing a very
Speaker 1: relatable conclusion for what I'm saying. But you'll say I'll
Speaker 1: say something like don't you think it's really amazing when
Speaker 1: you get great service at a restaurant? And you'll say yes,
Speaker 1: It's like when squirrels go and find nuts and they
Speaker 1: hide nuts under the leaves.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, okay, I think so it's true.
Speaker 4: Anyway, she said that it could be something called synesthesia,
Speaker 4: and she said she ended the message saying, and I'm
Speaker 4: a doctor, so I would know. And I thought, I
Speaker 4: love that confidence, lady.
Speaker 1: And essentially I feel it's a diagnose over the internet
Speaker 1: to someone who isn't your client.
Speaker 2: Bet Alas maybe is quaking. I do trust her.
Speaker 4: Cynthesia is essentially a fancy name for when you experience
Speaker 4: one of your senses through the other. For example, you
Speaker 4: might hear the name Alex and sea green. We might
Speaker 4: read the word street and taste citrus food citrus fruit.
Speaker 1: We did talk about how Billie Eilish and Tear The
Speaker 1: Creator and Forrell also have synesthesia where they can see
Speaker 1: music as color, so songs sound yellow or blue or.
Speaker 2: Green or red.
Speaker 1: Tile Creator in his infamous song I f and Hate You,
Speaker 1: says in the intro, can we add some more.
Speaker 2: Color like yellow? And its producer understands.
Speaker 4: Ah, interesting to see your community it is, Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: the thing. I don't want to call it synesthesia because
Speaker 4: I feel all those people it's considered genius musical. I
Speaker 4: don't know how they're experiencing it. I just know that
Speaker 4: I experience it. For example, we are talking and we
Speaker 4: talk about something specific, and I'm picturing this street in
Speaker 4: Mount Waverley where I grew up.
Speaker 2: You've lost me already.
Speaker 4: Like sometimes I'll say things and in my mind I'm
Speaker 4: picturing a street that's not at all related, like a
Speaker 4: very specific house on a street no relevance to me
Speaker 4: growing up.
Speaker 2: It's just somewhere where I'd.
Speaker 4: Gone past a lot of times with a certain phrase,
Speaker 4: have associations. I thought I was totally alone, Like I
Speaker 4: hadn't posted about this before because I thought it was
Speaker 4: so out of the box.
Speaker 2: I got so many.
Speaker 4: Dms, so many yeah people saying they had the exact
Speaker 4: same thing, each.
Speaker 1: As confusing as the other, because I'm thinking, we're talking
Speaker 1: about pineapple and pizza, and you're thinking of Mount Waverley.
Speaker 2: What's happening? And then often what happens.
Speaker 1: Is that you express these thoughts and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: but what I'm not quite understanding is the doctor who
Speaker 1: messaged you, does she understand what you mean or she
Speaker 1: just recognizes that because I'm not understanding you must have synesthesia.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to know because I don't know if
Speaker 4: she has synesthesia.
Speaker 1: Did you understand when you got responses of people saying,
Speaker 1: this is what I picture when I speak.
Speaker 2: Did you understand? Yes?
Speaker 3: WHOA.
Speaker 4: So another added layer is people will message me saying
Speaker 4: it's when I orgasm.
Speaker 2: When I orgasm, I picture as we spring anent, what's
Speaker 2: going on? Freaking?
Speaker 4: I picture like a specific street in my mind, or
Speaker 4: I picture a particular place. Someone said, when I was studying,
Speaker 4: I used to picture this round about near Melbourne UNI,
Speaker 4: completely unrelated.
Speaker 2: I went to Deacon.
Speaker 4: So people have these weird associations with streets.
Speaker 2: But picturing them and then what happens.
Speaker 4: Just absolutely no context, is just in their mind and
Speaker 4: they can't get it out.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you are so self aware of your
Speaker 1: body that you know that it's happening.
Speaker 4: I think because it's so random, because it's like it's
Speaker 4: like it's a feeling. It's more than I'm just picturing
Speaker 4: a street. It's it's like you're there, but you know.
Speaker 4: But and this is what a lot of people agree
Speaker 4: with me. It's not like you're doing anything there. You're
Speaker 4: just picturing the space like you're like omnipresent in it.
Speaker 1: I theoretically understand what you're saying. I just can't relate.
Speaker 1: And because I can't relate, I don't know what a
Speaker 1: process is information. No wonder you look glazed almost speaking.
Speaker 2: You're picturing that one street.
Speaker 4: A lot of people were saying it's to do with
Speaker 4: their orgasm. Prenut, post nut, midnuts. So these Did you
Speaker 4: google this and see if there's a correlation.
Speaker 2: No huh.
Speaker 4: Someone said, I have pre nut visions of roads. Also,
Speaker 4: mine is a tree lined street and I'm kind of
Speaker 4: rolling down it slowly.
Speaker 2: I've experienced it for years.
Speaker 4: Someone else said, no matter how hard I try not to,
Speaker 4: I always think about the Adelaide public trains, specifically the
Speaker 4: city to Seaford Line pre Nut, visualizing them and hearing
Speaker 4: the station announcement. Someone said, pre Nut is Camberwell Arcade,
Speaker 4: pre Laurent Bakery, and I always think of a lane
Speaker 4: from Seinfeld when I'm putting on socks or tights. Then
Speaker 4: the last one, the last one that I'm going to
Speaker 4: read out is frooms. Oh my god, the synesthesia thing.
Speaker 4: I thought I was alone. Pre Nut always pictured this
Speaker 4: park near my old house, but from a very specific angle,
Speaker 4: which is the exact same as me, and I get
Speaker 4: it with the other random mindless tasks. Brushing my teeth
Speaker 4: equals Elston wick Macker's another plug and I completely, I
Speaker 4: just fully understand what they mean.
Speaker 1: Do guy, do you not want to say you have
Speaker 1: synesthesia that because it seems like you and all these
Speaker 1: people have the thees.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's just I think it's more
Speaker 4: of a memory recall thing that the memory wise are
Speaker 4: freaking out rather than senses, because when I'm talking, I'm
Speaker 4: picturing things in my head.
Speaker 2: You in an office, huh hmm.
Speaker 1: You're a special one, something that an alien would experience,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say?
Speaker 4: Don't want to give you any ideas give away my
Speaker 4: true identity.
Speaker 3: This is flex and frooms on Keda.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say this about coming cross
Speaker 1: as it being offensive, but I'm just getting bored of
Speaker 1: am I the assholes?
Speaker 2: Because it was either.
Speaker 1: Completely deranged, rude people sending in their grievances or people
Speaker 1: who hadn't done anything wrong and we're letting guilt eat
Speaker 1: them up. And I was like, I didn't need they
Speaker 1: need to contribute to either of these narratives So I
Speaker 1: was trawling reddit looking for other forums that we can
Speaker 1: siphon content from, and I found this subreddit called too
Speaker 1: Afraid to Ask, where, like it sounds, people ask questions
Speaker 1: that they're too afraid to ask in their general environments.
Speaker 2: Super cool, right, It's very juicy.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to start light because there are some
Speaker 1: very controversial submissions, but this one is quite simple. How
Speaker 1: do I tell my girlfriend that she looks worse with
Speaker 1: makeup on? That one's a touchy one. Let me just
Speaker 1: read it out. The title says it all. This guy
Speaker 1: says he hates the barbie doll completely fake look and
Speaker 1: that they're just not attracted to heavy makeup at all.
Speaker 1: He says that if they're going to a play or
Speaker 1: a concert or an important event, that he totally understands
Speaker 1: why makeup is like necessary or encouraged, But his girlfriend
Speaker 1: does it every occasion, corner shop, like going for a walk,
Speaker 1: the gym, the makeup's going on. He has expressed to
Speaker 1: her how he feels about it, but she's mostly dismissed
Speaker 1: it as just another like cute, uninformed opinion of a guy.
Speaker 1: Like she's not taking it very seriously. His issue is
Speaker 1: that she's not taking him seriously, and she's not taken
Speaker 1: to heart either, so it's kind of neutral, like it's
Speaker 1: the point is not getting across.
Speaker 2: So he says his issue is.
Speaker 1: That she genuinely looks better without it, and it might
Speaker 1: be due to apple her application. Like he says, her
Speaker 1: face loses all contrast. It looks like a white sheet.
Speaker 1: It's not hot, it's not sexy. And he's at the
Speaker 1: point where he doesn't know how to tell her this
Speaker 1: without her thinking that he's saying that she's ugly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because she sounds like she wants makeup on them
Speaker 4: all the time.
Speaker 2: Exactly. I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Put words in her mouth, but sometimes it could be
Speaker 4: that you feel like you're not pretty.
Speaker 2: Without it, exactly.
Speaker 1: So, even before I've gotten to the advice section, he's
Speaker 1: made a quick caveat a quick disclaimer. Oh, we figured
Speaker 1: out the difference between this last week. I think it's
Speaker 1: a disclaimer. And he said that a lot of people
Speaker 1: seem to take this thread the wrong way, and I
Speaker 1: can see how that happened, given the way a word
Speaker 1: at the title. I do not control my girlfriend's actions,
Speaker 1: nor do I intend to. She's free to make whatever decision.
Speaker 1: She wishes that being said communication is healthy. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for advice on how to be more delicate when explaining
Speaker 1: my point of view cool.
Speaker 2: I'm a quick one liner. What should he do? How
Speaker 2: should he approach it?
Speaker 4: I've been on the receiving end of a you don't
Speaker 4: need to put makeup on to go to the corner
Speaker 4: store kind of comics founded.
Speaker 1: The same guy who told you to take off your
Speaker 1: cool sandals to go to surf diving, ski and get
Speaker 1: thongs to a wedding.
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, not sprusted.
Speaker 4: I don't know, because we've spoken about this as well.
Speaker 4: I get it when someone's making stylistic choices that they
Speaker 4: cannot make that are making you not attracted to them.
Speaker 2: I would say, just try and.
Speaker 4: Bring it up, just say I love it when you
Speaker 4: don't wear makeup.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's hard. I think you just got
Speaker 2: to mind your business with this one.
Speaker 1: I feel like the fundamental fact is that people are
Speaker 1: entitled to make whatever stylistic choice they want to do
Speaker 1: with their vessel, and a lot of our creative choices
Speaker 1: with what we look like are very personal and half
Speaker 1: the time born out of insecurity. But the other half,
Speaker 1: of course, you feel attached to that representation of ourselves
Speaker 1: and you've already dropped hints, so she gets it.
Speaker 2: You just have to let it go.
Speaker 1: I really do think like if I was dating someone
Speaker 1: I didn't like the genes they wore. If I've done
Speaker 1: a one two one two brought you, you know, a
Speaker 1: nice pair few birthday don't want to wear it's whatever, true,
Speaker 1: you've got to get over.
Speaker 2: It, exhausted your allocation of changing.
Speaker 1: Unless the makeup is a scapegoat for a bigger issue,
Speaker 1: We're like, I don't want to data anymore. It's the
Speaker 1: makeup that is throw me off, then that's a different thing.
Speaker 1: But if it's just she looks better without it, then
Speaker 1: just deal with the one hour a day you've got
Speaker 1: to see her in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 4: Actually it's off an escape goat for a bigger issue
Speaker 4: in the relationship.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I love this threads. I'll have to find one
Speaker 2: for next time.
Speaker 4: I like this.
Speaker 2: I don't stick stick with your own threads, Babe.
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