WEBVTT - Froomes Gets Confronted By A Fan 😧 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.080 Flex and Keita Inflex and Frooms Daily podcast Glad to 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:06.360 be back, haven't gone anywhere? 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:08.200 We live here we do. 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.360 Coming up though this episode, I'm gonna say it's one 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:14.920 of my favorites because we really touched on everything. What 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.840 happens when you have two kids and your name one 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:18.840 winner and one looser. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:20.720 You won't believe it. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:22.320 You will be shook to your core. 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.560 I'm also going to talk about a little experience, a 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:25.720 little personal. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:30.280 Experience, experience, what experience, you know what? 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:35.879 Earlier I was texting somebody and I literally said, I experience. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.080 It's what is it? Experience? But like I c k, 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:42.839 it was an experience? Oh like it was icky? Yeah, 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.959 it was an experience. Come on now, if we want 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:47.760 to make that, we can probably like that at TikTok. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:53.800 You just start trademarking. I'm a trademarket. Don't make me so. 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:58.200 Essentially, I was publicly shamed in a public forum on 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.680 a public street outside my local supermarket. It was very upsetting, 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.080 and ultimately it was exciting because I meant I had 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:07.480 something to talk about on cater. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.319 Being shamed within five kilometer radius of your own home. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:12.319 I don't like it. It's pretty heavy. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.760 But as I say later the next day, I was 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:20.520 publicly acknowledged the same five k radius so long. Yes, 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.880 so everything's equal and everything comes back. It's a circle 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:24.320 in life. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:26.360 You win some of your loose. Let's get into it. 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.400 This is flex and Frooms on Cada. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.600 We have been waiting for this one for me. Tell 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:38.840 us all about it. This is my latest public shaming. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.280 It occurred on the weekend. Let me paint a picture 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:42.920 for you. Flexi. 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.320 I go to my chosen supermarket or brand names. But 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.880 you know, I'm more of a yeah, fresh food kind 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:50.160 of girl. 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:52.840 Fresh food my people. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.400 Yeah, and I've got all of my stuff. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:57.800 I was going to go home mate dinner. I mean, 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.080 what do you get? Can we get like a quick 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:00.800 quick Elevani's. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:05.680 Cucumber tomato, corn, chicken taco pack and some yogurt. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:06.240 Nice. 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.520 It's trotting home in my green bag. So I'm looking good. 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.359 I'm looking environmentally conscious. I feel great, like I've slept 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:16.440 a lot the night before, that kind of vibe. I'm 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.240 walking along I leave the supermarket and I like, look 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.200 at this guy on the street just as you're walking past, 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:22.679 and then he kind of like does a double take 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:23.399 at me, and he goes. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.720 He recognizes a superstar in his midst He goes fromes 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:28.160 and I go, I turn around. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.160 I go, hello, Doll, Like I've been doing this thing 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.040 lately if anyone talks to me on the street to 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:32.800 go hi Dole. 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.760 I'm like, why, I don't know. You don't know what 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:38.560 it is. I think I just am socially awkward. I 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:42.440 don't know. Because someone goes like flex, it's. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.640 Like it's not a high. It's like, oh yeah, what, 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:45.760 I'm like, I don't know what to say. 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.320 I'm like, high, Dole. Okay, So anyway, I'm like, hi Doll. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.880 He's like, hey, like what are you up to, doll? 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:52.840 Because he's just standing on the street kind of. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.760 Like you're on the same foot path. He's across the road. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.320 We are on the same footpath. He's like literally cross 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:01.720 paths like looked him, looked him, kept walking. He goes, 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.000 I turn around. So now I'm halfway turned. I'm like, 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.040 do I stay and talk to you? 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:07.480 Like? Is this going to make you walk with That's 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.480 a tricky one. Yeah. 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.799 And he's there with a woman and she kind of 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.440 looks a bit confused as to what's going on. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.920 She's not familiar with the CEO. No, yeah, And. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.640 It turns out she wasn't familiar with him either. So 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.960 he has a beer in his hand two pm Sunday, 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:23.840 no shame. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:24.880 But he's on the street. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.360 There is no bar nearby, so he's just got a 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:32.280 random legal I don't know his name, drinking his beer 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:33.640 and I look at him in the eye. His eyes 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.680 are bloodshot. First thing he says to me is I'm 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.800 so drunk. I'm so drunk. I'm so sad. I'm like, 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.760 why are you sad? And then he goes, oh, no, no, no, 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.320 I'm just so drunk. Hey, And then I go, oh, 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.080 do you guys know each other? She's like no, she's 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.880 working your dogs. So what she stops for? He's accosted 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.560 her and she's obviously stuck. And then he goes, oh, 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.600 like i'd love your work, Like love your work, but 0:03:58.480 --> 0:03:59.120 selling out. 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:00.880 He's like, you got a stop selling out? 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.400 Don't sell out, like remember your freominess, Like, don't sell out? 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.280 Whoa this is very familiar. How is a stranger telling 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:09.160 you to remember who you are? 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:11.760 I'm not prepared for this. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.080 I just want to have a cool, chill day by myself. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.120 I'm having some alone time. I'm not on the internet today. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:21.719 You come up to yes, I'm not clocked on. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.320 Literally, he's a very on the clock discussion about my 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.000 career trajectory. So when he said that to you, what 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.159 was your initial response? Did you think he was joking? 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:33.880 I kind of laughed it off. I'm like, oh yeah, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.240 hah yeah. And my instinct or what I wanted to say, 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.960 was like, what do you mean what part? But then 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.480 I thought he's drunk. He's not gonna give me a 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.640 good answer. And do I really want the opinion of 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.279 this person that's going to say to a relative stranger 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.359 that they've sold out. He's talking to me about my 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.719 financial and career decisions. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:53.279 I'm not in the mood. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.200 And I say to this girl, I go, hmm, I 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.280 was nice because I'm like, you think I'm a sellout. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:02.520 So I'm keeping face. I'm feeling upset and annoyed. 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.440 I walk away. This chick like comes with me. I'm like, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:06.680 how is that? 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:06.760 Like? 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.720 I can't believe that he said that. She's like, yeah, 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.400 they said have a good day, but she doesn't know 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:12.640 who you are, so she's just also like. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.680 Well, what he's like, He's like her, Oh, do you 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.839 know this chick? It's from since she goes, Oh, I 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.599 thought you looked familiar. I've seen you before. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.040 Yeah, so kind of be a stranger in your own 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.160 suburb honestly jumps it everywhere. It's a tricky one. I 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.719 appreciate that you fought the urge to defend yourself because 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.680 the thing about human nature is that you will be 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.479 misunderstood more often than not, and that really hurts my heart. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:35.040 But the more you encounter it, the easiest to deal 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.000 with it. I think it's really interesting when people think 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.040 they know you, not you generally, but when just people, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.080 when they think their observation of you is the reality 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.720 of you totally. In his instance, he was like, what 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.719 I'm perceiving of you to be true is the fact 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:54.600 I should pass that information. But realistically selling out, like 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.120 you don't do that many spanos. I want to google 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:01.640 the definition of sellout. Anyone who's sacrificis artistic integrity in 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:03.920 an effort to become more successful or popular. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:08.320 Oh I'll do that, Sign me up. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:10.440 Yeah. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.000 The thing that I couldn't really grasp with, and I 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.599 think you make a really good point saying that they're 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:17.760 just seeing what they perceive and then assuming that that's 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.599 a reality, is that if this man really knew me, 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.680 if he was a true employee, he would know that 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.200 I have been sold out from the very beginning. My 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.080 first job, I tell you, often selling tint to the cayard. 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.560 The tints worth one hundred dollars, I'm selling it for 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:33.840 one thousand, five hundred. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:34.760 Do you want to keep that in? 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.960 Yeah, so if you listen to this, I have a 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.200 really bad habit of same shit and then being like, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.000 oh no, we actually we got to study it, say 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.600 take it out incremining Now I'll happily stand by that. 0:06:47.680 --> 0:06:49.159 It was a different time. Yeah. 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:52.479 My first job at a or my first internship at 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:56.360 a radio station, I was making vines. Fernandos go get 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.600 a job at Pedestrian. I'm getting paid my money out 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.599 of the salary that Nike gave them. Gave them X 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.800 amount of money to bring on an editor. So my 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:10.040 health and fitness editor for Nike. Then I selling vitamins 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.680 through my riding. Like I've been a sell it from 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.600 the very beginning. I studied advertising. I understand the intersection 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:20.200 between creating entertainment and selling products. 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.400 So then I to go on the bio babe, it 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:26.840 actually is in my boot. That's incredible, do you know 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:27.240 what I mean? 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.880 So, and also it was just annoying because I have 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.440 had I feel as if I've had more opportunities to 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:34.480 sell out that I haven't. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.480 Can I can I ask a question. I've got my 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.440 hand raised, because there is more than one of us. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:41.720 Miss Willian. If you have. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.320 Been a sellout from the beginning, what was what rabbed 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:47.520 you the wrong way about him perceiving that in you, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.760 because then now it seems like what he said was 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.080 a compliment, like he's perceived it to be a capital 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:58.360 A artist, a capital C creative, when in fact you 0:07:59.000 --> 0:07:59.920 are a seller. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.240 I think it's more that this person was saying it 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.160 as if I've changed. 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:07.720 Oh, and you're like, I've been the same. 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:08.080 I have. 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:12.680 Literally It's like when people say, I don't forget where 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.120 you come from, don't care who you are, Like I've 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.440 known who I am the whole time. Like I'm not 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:21.360 thinking that I'm amazing now, Like I've always believed in myself. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:25.440 I've always been the same. I've always had similar creative ambitions, 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.960 you know. So it's like it's quite discombobulating when somebody 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.360 who is willing to stop a stranger in the street 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.439 and give them career advice or like tell them, oh, 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.920 don't do this, Like they're all the kind of people 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.080 I want in my ranks anyway. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.880 So it's offensive because he hasn't seen the consistency exactly. 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.439 He's thought, you've been fashoned about for a couple of 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:50.920 years and most recently got your come up, and now 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:56.000 you've sold out, when in reality you've been consistently selling out. Therefore, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.960 he's not recognizing the amount of effort it's taken to maintain. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.800 I understand absolutely, and it's just it's just not nice 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.360 to get feedback on the street, like, yeah, I've never 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.199 understood that. Maybe it's also because I feel like sometimes 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.559 the kind of people that come up to people in 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:20.680 person are quite This is not saying everyone that does 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.600 it is like this, but are quite like overly confident. 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:25.240 And it feels like a bit of a word vomited 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.760 thing to say to somebody like obviously you haven't really 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.160 thought about it, because you obviously like me because you 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.320 want to get a photo and stuff, and you're being 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:38.360 complimentary outside of that comment. But it felt very much 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:43.240 Australian culture. Tall poppy syndrome, like pulling me up into 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.239 line in case I've become too successful. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.000 Yeah, which is said a lot about your audience. Well, 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.480 it's I'm hoping that I don't have these interactions. Like 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.200 we've spoken about a couple of instances where you've interacted 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.199 with your people and have been like, whoa, this is 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.400 a very odd thing for you to say to me. 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.599 This is an odd way for us to be interacting. 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:02.719 There might be a. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.760 Dissonance between who you are and how your audience is 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:11.200 consuming you. You know, because I could imagine, like you said, 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.640 this person is a fan of you, so their intention. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:14.400 Was not to offend. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:19.880 So why is there a dissonance between what offends you 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:21.200 and what they think will offend you. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.520 Well, nine times out of ten, any kind of interaction 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.720 I have with anybody is so positive. Like the next 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.000 day I went to this local cafe and the chef 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:30.559 came out and. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.440 Was be like, oh my god, I love you and 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:38.640 we have the nicest chat food. Question Mark, Well, I 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:42.280 don't do things for free, so why should he? Okay, 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.040 so just say there wasn't a connection. There was, There 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:46.640 wasn't that deep. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.760 This is flex and frooms on Kada. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:54.080 There was a man that in nineteen fifty eight had 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:58.560 two sons and he decided to name them Winner and Loser. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.240 So the craziest thing, are they dead? 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.680 Like? What is the solution? Not the solution, but the 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.800 like the story about their lifetime? Did one of them 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.960 grow up to be a winner? Want a loser? Or 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:13.520 do we do not have that DARTI yet because they're 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.360 fifty five. Yeah, we have the data. 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.959 They both grew up on the grounds of the Wagner Projects, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:23.080 which is in New York lower socio economic area. Their 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.840 names never attracted much attention or ridicule among the other 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:27.079 children in the neighborhood. 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.280 Loser, I find it hard to believe. 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.600 Yeah, I don't know, weird, But Losers later said as 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.480 a child, you don't know it's a bad name, and 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.840 later in school everyone knows you, so it's become normal. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.760 So yeah, a lot of people probably think it's like 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:39.240 a nickname. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:39.600 Yeah. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:44.640 During with his distinctive name Winner, Lane should have achieved 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.920 a lot, but exactly the opposite turned out to be true. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.720 The exact reasons for this can no longer be determined today. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:53.959 In any case, he went off the rails quite early 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.280 because His criminal career started at the age of nineteen 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:01.360 when he was arrested for aggravated result. Five years later, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.320 he was found breaking into a house. Over time, he 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:08.280 did thirty crimes or offenses, including all of the different 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.319 ones that are quite bad, even including auto theft. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.800 I haven't seen that bad. Of all the crimes, I 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:20.959 thought toft the coolest one. It's the coolest theft. 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:26.079 But around this time his brother actually received His brother 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.520 called lose E Lane, received a scholarship for a prep 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.600 school in Connecticut, and then he joined the police force 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:33.520 in nineteen eighty four. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.160 So that's what's happening. Loser overcompensated little to his name. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.640 Winner was on an invincible high from the jump. Winner said, 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.600 I got this. I'm destined for whatever I want to do. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:44.240 I'm going to win. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.200 I love that so much. Winn A Lane and lose 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:52.480 E Lane Laane makes it ten times worse, no better. 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.360 Those are great names. Win a Lane reminds you of 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:55.840 this train I. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.840 Saw on TikTok where it's like, what were to be 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.040 good names if we didn't know their preconceived meaning, Like 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.480 allegedly great name. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:10.520 Yeah, that's a really good point. Allegedly serendipitously. Oh stunning, Yeah, Sarah, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.400 for sure. Maybe that's what remember that trained a while ago. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:20.200 Like Dave is short for day for it, So I 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:20.640 love it. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.720 You're listening to Flex and Firms on It's time. 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.559 I'm feeling congerial and feverish because I get to speak 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.920 about Love Island. I don't want to bore you with 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.320 the specifics of this character's name. 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.000 Character. That's to humanize it. It's very dehumanizing from you 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:43.400 a contestant. Contestant two c words. Okay, hold on a second. 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.520 Yeah, I don't want to boy with the specifics of 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.920 like their individual couplings. But I was trying to think 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.439 of what I'm learning as I'm watching it, because I 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.120 do like to tell I do like to tell people 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:57.040 that Love Island is like a anthropological sociological thing. If 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:58.920 that's the case, well what am I learning as I'm 0:13:58.960 --> 0:13:59.520 consuming it? 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:01.120 Side note, it is a. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.440 Lot a big investment to watch the show full on. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.040 It's like once a day. 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.680 Complete listening to Caita for this is what I'm saying. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.040 How are you gonna do daily Flex and Rooms and 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.920 the podcast and Love Island and then go to work? 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:17.959 It can't happen. 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.840 I think again, stop going to work. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.720 Okay, so what I've learned so far, bear with me, 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.120 please and see how this fits on for size. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.360 Don't knock it until you've really thought about it. Okay. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:38.480 So Love Ireland is teaching me that scarcity and fewer 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.480 options is the perfect breeding ground for love. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.840 Are you asking my opinion? How do you feel about 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:47.360 that statement? 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:53.680 Completely agree? I completely agree. It is Make no mistake. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:54.680 We are in an era. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:59.720 We use that term often. We this is an era 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.000 before off. He said, what do you say, I'm in 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.520 my like shallow era. I did say that. 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:04.760 Yeah. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.480 I think it's a lie, but it's a point. 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:06.880 Think. 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:13.600 Yes, I'm over the microphone spitting my spittleer's on your face. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:14.360 No. 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:19.200 Absolutely, It creates an environment where you find somebody because 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.640 you don't have any options. It's like when you're at McDonald's. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:23.240 You know. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:35.480 The decration for this, spanno, we have to start post cost, 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.800 come to the check. I don't even know. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:42.760 I'm McDonald's hundreds always does come with checks, so I'm 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:43.440 happy to pivot. 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:44.440 Yeah. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:45.880 It's like in the olden days when you went to 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.520 the dance and you're going to stay with your partner 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:48.960 for however many years you. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:52.400 Speaking from experience, remember that TikTok let someone comments. We 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.040 posted a TikTok and somebody commented and said, they're older 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:56.880 than I thought. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.120 It was. But this is the point. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.000 I know that when we talk about dating and romance, 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.640 people make the observation that there are too many options. 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.920 But I don't think it's that. I think too many 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.840 options and scarcity is not on the same spectrum. I 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.200 feel as though when people have too many options, they 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.480 think that all the options are for them, which is untrue. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.200 But when there are a few options, people take the 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.560 time to figure out how the options could work for them. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:27.760 It's a different approach. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.640 So in Love Island in particular, this year was different 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:33.560 to last year because last year, each contestant had to 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.160 pick who they wanted to couple up with. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:36.240 This year, when they. 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.400 All arrived, the publics picked for them, and immediately the 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:44.040 majority of these couples tried so hard to make it work. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.880 Of course, because they were like, we've been chosen and 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.720 because everybody has a couple, we don't have any options, 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.960 and I would rather be with you than be alone. 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.880 There was this one couple in India and Kenna. Two 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:59.680 weeks they did not kiss, and we're both convinced. 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:00.960 That they had to try action for each other. 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.119 Hmm, this is the same left Alan people are rooting 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.760 in these communal spaces and you can't even get a 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.400 kiss and every day doing. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.080 Like, you know, where do you think this is going? 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:11.000 Do you see it? For me? 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.320 Even when all the signs were saying you two do 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.239 not like each other, just the fact that they've been 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.720 paired together and had no other options was enough to 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:23.680 make them fight really hard for it. And you might say, 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.320 flex are you advocating for arranged relationships? 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:29.760 I don't know. I don't know if. 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:35.000 Your parents arranged for you to be in a marriage 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:39.080 and it actually meant that you'd be happily ever after, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.560 but you know that at the time, would you push 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:42.920 against it? 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:44.440 What's Liz trying to pick her husband for me? 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:44.560 For? 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:47.480 She already does that. She'll go that, the doctor will wars. 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:52.240 I saw this really lovely guy, really and she's sweet 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.479 like that, though, would you ever she needs to increase 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:56.159 her taste for me? 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:57.840 I feel like she's like she sees a tall person. 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.000 She's like, look, he was so tall. My dad always 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.040 since men are way more attractive than they are. It's 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.280 always a good book. And Teller shows me his Facebook 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.080 what what is that? 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.439 What is that? Flex? 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.840 And a while ago I got a DM from a 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.479 woman saying, absolutely loving the Flexing Firms past. You can 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:21.800 get that on iHeartRadio or wherever else you podcasts quick plug. 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:26.280 She goes, absolutely love the podcast. And often you talk 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.680 about things and you relate things to other things, and 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.399 flex sounds like she doesn't get at it. Yeah, And 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.679 I thought that's very unusual because I have feel as 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:37.159 though I'm the one that's not getting anything. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.240 Yeah, I feel like I understand you very well. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.120 But then examples were made where I was like, yeah, 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:44.800 I guess you're right. 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:49.520 For the example, you will talk about something and I 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:52.320 will relate it to something else entirely, and it makes 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.600 complete sense to me in my brain. But you don't 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.560 get it because maybe we don't have the same brain. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.160 But you're making it sound like you're drawing a very 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.760 relatable conclusion for what I'm saying. But you'll say I'll 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.520