Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Firms. This is the Flex
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Flex and Froom Show. It's Flexi
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Speaker 2: I was watching your Instagram story the other day. Your stories,
Speaker 2: I would say, are always a combination of foul, provocative, yes, cute.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, thirsty Yeah, and I just did this little
Speaker 1: with my fingers like.
Speaker 3: Hip resolved, resolved precisely. It's a brand experience. It's very
Speaker 3: clear brand experience.
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 2: I saw you post this meme. I would say, it's
Speaker 2: like semi dank. I'm not going to try and explain
Speaker 2: what what it looks like, but essentially mean, but like
Speaker 2: philosophy skewed dank pholosphy memes.
Speaker 1: So it's got a woman and she's saying you aren'ting
Speaker 1: to try and describe it, Well, I've got to explain it.
Speaker 2: So it's a woman saying thank you for ruining my life,
Speaker 2: and it's the Instagram logo with tentacles, and the Instagram
Speaker 2: logo with tentacles says, I'm literally an algorithm designed to
Speaker 2: maintain your attention by learning from your behavior and mirroring
Speaker 2: back that which consciously or not captivates you and the
Speaker 2: social worlds through which you move. I am literally one
Speaker 2: of the most fascinating tools for collective and personal shadow
Speaker 2: work ever created. That is only if you can learn
Speaker 2: to recognize that you aren't disturbed by social media. You
Speaker 2: are disturbed by your own reflection.
Speaker 1: Yep, wow, yup.
Speaker 2: That he different for me because I thought, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: often like semi offended by what I'm served. But why
Speaker 2: is it hitting so hard for me? Why am I
Speaker 2: so offended? Why is this feeling visceral? And this is why?
Speaker 1: So, babe, where'd you find this meme? My explore page
Speaker 1: is really good to me?
Speaker 3: So it has been curated, as you said, to be
Speaker 3: a reflection of my Instagram story. So you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not up here every day like trying to create content.
Speaker 3: I literally let the Explore page determine what's inspiring me.
Speaker 1: But what I do find.
Speaker 3: Really interesting is that people often think that the memes
Speaker 3: I share are like me finding another way to communicate.
Speaker 3: I might, babe, I'm a professional talker. You think of
Speaker 3: I had a thought that I wanted to communicate, I
Speaker 3: would just communicate it.
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's good to communicate it through different memes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, that's what you guys do.
Speaker 3: Like you like people often like post a meme to
Speaker 3: be like I'm trying to let everybody know what I'm
Speaker 3: going through without letting know what I'm going through, like
Speaker 3: indirect communication through memes. Right, So, like you're having like
Speaker 3: a weird time with your friends, you might post like
Speaker 3: a quote being like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: all you have is yourself. If people do that anymore,
Speaker 3: people do that well often, and maybe there's more complex
Speaker 3: ways to do it, like posting like screenshots of the
Speaker 3: music you're listening to, or like posting screenshots, or like
Speaker 3: posting an image of like your antidepressants, like creating trying
Speaker 3: to create a priority.
Speaker 1: Tempted to do that at some point, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: all I do is like talk for a living.
Speaker 3: So if I'm going to say something or if i
Speaker 3: want to be understood, I'm like, the most direct way
Speaker 3: of getting to it's how I want to say it.
Speaker 3: But I love meme curation, Like my story has always
Speaker 3: been about curating. I'm like, just because these things are
Speaker 3: hitting you, like hitting your spot, you think I'm going
Speaker 3: through it.
Speaker 1: It's interesting I get that.
Speaker 3: Yeah again with the mirror, right, I'm only just posting stuff,
Speaker 3: and whenever it hits someone a little bit different, they're
Speaker 3: kind of like, we're going through something. No, this is
Speaker 3: just resonating with you.
Speaker 2: See. I get that when I like find a really
Speaker 2: funny TikTok that actually doesn't apply to me, but it's
Speaker 2: the funniest thing ever. I don't want to post it,
Speaker 2: but I just know it's going to be the wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But what I liked about that post generally is that
Speaker 3: I I am like plenty of people laugh and scoff
Speaker 3: at people who think taking social media breaks is going
Speaker 3: to be the cure to whatever they think they're going through.
Speaker 3: And like, in some ways taking a break anything is
Speaker 3: good for recalibration. But I often think that people who
Speaker 3: use social media place an unfair amount of blame on
Speaker 3: social media. But the issue is we're not all having
Speaker 3: a unified experience. I don't know what happens on your
Speaker 3: for you page, I don't know what happens on your feet.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you look at that is responsible
Speaker 3: for how you're feeling. And I feel like people are
Speaker 3: so quick to shift blame on this, like invisible algorithm,
Speaker 3: not recognizing that, like your algorithm, is a sum of
Speaker 3: what you interact with. All these apps are trying to
Speaker 3: do is maintain retention. They want you to be on
Speaker 3: the app for as long as possible. So in some capacity,
Speaker 3: whether you're hate watching, love watching, inspired, documenting, mood boarding,
Speaker 3: you're engaging and you're feeding the beast and then wondering
Speaker 3: or confused as to why the beast that you fed
Speaker 3: looks and feels the way it does. Babes you raise
Speaker 3: that beast. That's your baby, that's your face, that's your baby.
Speaker 2: That was a classic flex rant that we were just that,
Speaker 2: that felt vintage.
Speaker 1: That was perfect. Every now and then, you page always
Speaker 1: is dual leap of.
Speaker 2: Videos from a tour that knows we died.
Speaker 3: We've got a little little too many DM roasts missed
Speaker 3: you okay, and it.
Speaker 1: Knows who did you don't roast. There's also won he
Speaker 1: said ju a Liepa Khan dance and now it's playing.
Speaker 1: I love that dance. Is she? That was an iconic moment.
Speaker 2: The rest are just little chas, all different types of
Speaker 2: Really I'd say fifty percent.
Speaker 1: And so it should be. It's a beautiful gift.
Speaker 3: You know how when you like, let's say, for example,
Speaker 3: you can go go to dinner with a bunch of friends. Right,
Speaker 3: this is a good example. Go to dinner with a
Speaker 3: bunch of friends and you are telling the waiter, the
Speaker 3: waitress whoever, what your order is. And once that waitress goes,
Speaker 3: how often have you been like got a weird vibe
Speaker 3: from them and someone was like, oh I didn't feel out,
Speaker 3: Like that was completely fine. They were quite nice. Like
Speaker 3: what you're perceiving is how you perceive things, So like
Speaker 3: you're the way that you saw that is a reflection
Speaker 3: of how you saw that. So whether or not the
Speaker 3: person was pissy, or the person had an attitude or
Speaker 3: they were nice, we forget to take responsibility for like
Speaker 3: how we saw it.
Speaker 1: You are responsible.
Speaker 3: And it's like maybe you didn't consciously view behavior like
Speaker 3: that in that way, right, Maybe it's just like subconsciously
Speaker 3: or you had a weird experience or whatever. But I
Speaker 3: think we all just like to externalize. So like if
Speaker 3: I'm having a weird time on the app, it's the app.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, say it again, now I'm having a
Speaker 3: weird time on the app. Like the sentences phrased that
Speaker 3: way for a second. It's not like the app is
Speaker 3: making me feel weird. Sometimes it is, but then you know,
Speaker 3: like you're assigning like responsibility. But often it's like I
Speaker 3: feel weird that person was weird to me. It's like
Speaker 3: becoming aware, but like who cares? Because I feel like
Speaker 3: the internet is like so new that by the time
Speaker 3: we realize that we are partially responsible, we're going to
Speaker 3: be phased out anyway. We I mean like mid twenty
Speaker 3: year olds, we're going to get to forty and be
Speaker 3: like who cares? Just log off and then you will.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if the internet will be what
Speaker 2: it is now, but I can't see it being anything else.
Speaker 3: I think it'll just be like via anyway, complex rants
Speaker 3: don't get used to them. But I also wish that
Speaker 3: was going on the internet.
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Speaker 4: What a duo? You know?
Speaker 1: I love love love reading it.
Speaker 3: Am I the assholes, namely because I want to see
Speaker 3: people be people, and most people are unfortunately assholes. But
Speaker 3: a lot of you been doing method acting, performance art.
Speaker 3: You're trying to get me off your scent. I see you,
Speaker 3: I smell you. This one in particular is dating scentered,
Speaker 3: which I know you love. And look it's not written.
Speaker 3: It did, in fact come from a TikTok. Let me
Speaker 3: play the clip now.
Speaker 4: So I was supposed to on a date tonight at
Speaker 4: seven pm and we were supposed to go balling, and
Speaker 4: we made the date like three days ago, but he
Speaker 4: has in contacted me in three days and obviously didn't
Speaker 4: message me today to confirm the date and set seven.
Speaker 4: It's two pm, So in my head, the date's done.
Speaker 4: There's no date, no confirmation, no date. So then someone
Speaker 4: else asked me to go for coffee and I said yes,
Speaker 4: because like, why not?
Speaker 1: I don't actually have another.
Speaker 4: Date tonight, But I want to know if someone doesn't
Speaker 4: confirm to you the date of but you do have
Speaker 4: a time and a place set for your date, would
Speaker 4: you show up to the date or would you just.
Speaker 1: Automatically assume that it's off? Because like, it's what I'm assuming, Lady,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 3: If one thing's for sure, you are allowing the Internet
Speaker 3: to rut your brain for free. Because the words that
Speaker 3: were coming out indicated sense be caaun, there was no sense.
Speaker 1: Coffee at seven pm? Can stop?
Speaker 4: Okay, stop.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, something about online dating rhetoric is frying
Speaker 3: brains left, right and center. Because this is what I'm hearing.
Speaker 3: You and this person have agreed to go on a date.
Speaker 3: There's a time set and a place set. In what
Speaker 3: world are you assuming the date isn't on? At what
Speaker 3: point do you say, I'm gonna check in?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: If you've set a time and date, you're the one
Speaker 3: who wants to confirm again, so confirm again.
Speaker 1: It's giving pretty princess.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Definitely, I think like, oh, I
Speaker 2: think you do want someone to confirm absolutely day, But
Speaker 2: maybe she's like she wants more of a text.
Speaker 1: Like what if we let's say, let's say I.
Speaker 2: Want to go on a date with someone and they
Speaker 2: confirm a day three days? Poor, I don't want them
Speaker 2: to text me in the meantime. You're wasting my time.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you should be messaging a follow up. But
Speaker 2: what is stopping her from doing a follow up?
Speaker 1: This is exactly it.
Speaker 3: It's not saying that it's fair or just to not
Speaker 3: get the follow up, but to assume the date is
Speaker 3: off and then to not be the one following up.
Speaker 3: My concern is that when it comes to a lot
Speaker 3: of like dating conversation online, it's giving mixed signals and
Speaker 3: mixed energy. What everybody's asking for is a date and
Speaker 3: a time. You get a date in the time, now
Speaker 3: you want to follow up. I think this is why
Speaker 3: we have to be really discerning with the type of
Speaker 3: people we want to date. Clearly, you're not dating someone
Speaker 3: who's matching your energy. And also I believe that you
Speaker 3: have to like set the standard. This is the first
Speaker 3: time you're meeting this person, right, so, like they don't
Speaker 3: know anything about you, they don't know that there is
Speaker 3: a standard to a pole to The least you can
Speaker 3: do is be like, hey, just checking in usually like
Speaker 3: I would expect X, Y and Z all good, and
Speaker 3: if you go on the date, you have a good time.
Speaker 3: The standard's been set. I think we're doing a little
Speaker 3: bit too much for people who don't know anything about you.
Speaker 3: Like you said, a day and time has been set already,
Speaker 3: it's fair to assume the date is on, not not on,
Speaker 3: unless you've had one too many experiences where you've been
Speaker 3: stood up.
Speaker 1: I can't relate. That's not my story. You ever been
Speaker 1: stood up?
Speaker 3: No, I haven't had a lot of bad dating experiences.
Speaker 3: So I think sometimes we're having these comments and I
Speaker 3: think I don't mind being the I don't mind open communication,
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna hit someone and be like, hey, like
Speaker 3: what's the plan? So I think I'm getting a different result.
Speaker 3: But I think if people want to sit in passenger
Speaker 3: princess passive energy, then this is the consequence of passenger
Speaker 3: princess passive energy. You live in this like confusing stead
Speaker 3: of not knowing what's happening because you're not deciding.
Speaker 1: Anything, unfortunately, But you know, do you? What do I know?
Speaker 3: Cat flex and fromes you're listening to flex and firms?
Speaker 1: What the frick flex?
Speaker 2: There is a theory bubbling within my soul light come
Speaker 2: up with it obviously too real, and that is that
Speaker 2: you were either if you're if you grew up with sisters.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up with sisters? No?
Speaker 2: Just two brothers yea Rodney yes, no more docxing. I
Speaker 2: grew up with a sister, Olivia, And we were having
Speaker 2: this conversation the other day after I sent her a
Speaker 2: TikTok which was about whether or not you're a pink
Speaker 2: sister or a purple sister.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this theory? Have not so.
Speaker 2: The theory is when you grew up, one sister chose
Speaker 2: everything that was pink, and one sister chose every was purple.
Speaker 2: And it's like an unspoken rule that if you were
Speaker 2: the pink sister, you were better, and if you're the
Speaker 2: purple sister, it's like a consolation prize.
Speaker 1: And it makes complete sense, does it. Yeah?
Speaker 2: And my sister and I actually currently in the middle
Speaker 2: of a terrest argument.
Speaker 1: I would say over text battle of the siblings.
Speaker 2: It's a battle of sibling that I like, I think
Speaker 2: I was the pink sister, but she's old. Yeah you would,
Speaker 2: but she's older than me, and she's she was the
Speaker 2: pink sister, and that I was the purple sister.
Speaker 3: Can I be candid place everything about you, says purple sister,
Speaker 3: part of me literally about you.
Speaker 1: It's giving quirky.
Speaker 4: I can't be there.
Speaker 3: You're quirky, off kilter, like it's purple sister, especially when
Speaker 3: you are the youngest.
Speaker 1: The stories you've told us about your childhood.
Speaker 3: Starting dance, dance battles in the what is it, the quad,
Speaker 3: the cafe, making your parents move house after they bought
Speaker 3: a house because you didn't like it.
Speaker 2: Of course, the house was hell wanted purple sister quality.
Speaker 2: Mount Waverley is a haunted suburb anyway.
Speaker 1: I just think you traditionally want to be a pink sister.
Speaker 2: I want to be pretty. I want to be the
Speaker 2: pink sister. I don't want to be quirky.
Speaker 1: It's just happened to me.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be quirky, and I want to
Speaker 2: be the pink sister. So I'm just putting you down
Speaker 2: in the ether. I think I was the pink sister.
Speaker 2: But thankfully I have some video evidence that I'm yet
Speaker 2: to peru roll the tape.
Speaker 1: Tonight when I get home, I'm going to find the two.
Speaker 3: You don't have the evidence, which you're not hold up
Speaker 3: in the court of law. You can't say you have evidence.
Speaker 3: And they'd be like, when I get home, I'll start
Speaker 3: looking for it.
Speaker 2: But I would just before you and you have a
Speaker 2: sister and it's just two sisters, go home and ask
Speaker 2: his sister was either pink sister or the purple sister.
Speaker 1: Because the results will shock you.
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Speaker 3: We are about to call up a winner. We're hosting
Speaker 3: a live show recording on the island. Extremely boogie. You
Speaker 3: know there was budget this q one get out. We've
Speaker 3: got some VIP winners and we're gonna call one because
Speaker 3: let's get on the phone in twenty twenty two. Let's
Speaker 3: pick up the phone. Scary, Let's put mouth to receiver.
Speaker 3: Let's make it happen.
Speaker 5: Hello, this is Car speaking Carra. Oh my god, this
Speaker 5: is fun.
Speaker 3: This is what cold calling should feel like. Get me
Speaker 3: working at Greenpeace or something. Get me on the phone.
Speaker 5: How are you guys?
Speaker 1: Phenomenal?
Speaker 5: Really good? How are you expected? You know, I'm at work,
Speaker 5: so once five o'clock comes around, we'll be better.
Speaker 1: We do have a habit of calling people during work,
Speaker 1: but what must be.
Speaker 5: Done must be done.
Speaker 1: Listen, just calling to say you've been a winner.
Speaker 3: So something to carry you through the itist the congratulations,
Speaker 3: yay winning the IP. Tickets to our live show recording
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Speaker 5: Yeah, amazing, Thank you so much. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Oh yay, Look Kara. In your entry, you were talking
Speaker 1: a lot about animals. Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I am an animal lover.
Speaker 2: Oh and I've heard you're kind of more of an
Speaker 2: animal lover than most people. You sleep with your animals
Speaker 2: in your bed and you let them lick your face.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 5: Yeah, licking the face is it's special occasions only.
Speaker 1: But you know, we freestyling with that one. She was freestyling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what kind of dog do you have?
Speaker 5: I have a gorgeous little black Cocker Spaniel. She's my
Speaker 5: pride and joy and she looks exactly like her mum.
Speaker 5: She's out and yeah, so she is like five months
Speaker 5: old and I'm just obsessed and everyone has to be
Speaker 5: obsessed with her. Know, she's not a chala.
Speaker 1: Do you live outside of home?
Speaker 5: Let you live?
Speaker 1: You live away from your parents?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: What made you make the plunge or like, take the
Speaker 3: plunge to get a pet? Because I'm freaking and I
Speaker 3: haven't lived at home for ten years. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: just don't feel adult enough to do that well.
Speaker 5: I decided, like during my UNI degree that my reward
Speaker 5: for finishing UNI was going to be to get a dog.
Speaker 5: And it was literally like my last day of exams. Ever,
Speaker 5: I hit submit and then I drove and put her up.
Speaker 1: So that's so hot. Oh that's lovely car. Look.
Speaker 2: I asked my parents for a dog when I was
Speaker 2: in year seven, and I told them I would stop
Speaker 2: having OCD if they got me one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I.
Speaker 5: Didn't let that work out.
Speaker 1: She's still.
Speaker 5: But for you, don't worry.
Speaker 1: Rip Fried the anyway.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, you can't bring you a little doggie to the island,
Speaker 2: but she will be there with us in spirit. To
Speaker 2: Queen indeed, little she sounds intelligent, Yeah she is.
Speaker 5: She's exactly like me, so of course, make.
Speaker 1: Sure intelligent Queen. Okay, that one really hit on.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take bye goodness.
Speaker 2: All right, well, all right, we gotta go, but we
Speaker 2: will see you on feb third on the island. Can
Speaker 2: you please bring us a framed photo of little miss Eider.
Speaker 2: I will be jewel it, yes, and then we can
Speaker 2: put it in our studio.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, amazing, she'll love that. I can't wait
Speaker 5: to Tella.
Speaker 1: Okay, lovely girl, We'll see you soon. Have a good day.
Speaker 5: Yeah you too. Bye bye, I.
Speaker 1: Gotta get out of the habitaclor people. Girl, What do
Speaker 1: you mean I said, bye, lovely girl? Oh sweet.
Speaker 2: It's like someone sent me a photo that was like,
Speaker 2: you know how we did the live show, the last
Speaker 2: live show that we had those paddles with our faces
Speaker 2: on it. Someone took a photo of my paddle but
Speaker 2: like t zo point five down on my forehead.
Speaker 1: And learned to me and said, hi, pretty girl. Pissed
Speaker 1: me up.
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