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Speaker 3: Or now COVID nineteen? Like every other aspect of life

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Speaker 3: welcome to Outspoken. I mean, we're obviously living in such

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Speaker 1: What can I do?

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, do you know? Statistically March is meant to

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Speaker 2: So important to be kind to them, be kind to

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Speaker 2: There were always options in this world. To just make

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Speaker 3: I love I love it, Sophie sitting there nodding. I

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Speaker 4: What's a distressful time for all?

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Speaker 2: Oh? It is, but just remember it will pass as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've got some really great measures in place.

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Speaker 2: But we absolutely stock up on some candles, you know,

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Speaker 3: Now everyone's going to mass panic by candles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, panic by candles. You know, bath bombs, if you

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Speaker 3: This is a little bit off topic, but I understand

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Speaker 1: All over that? Yeah? Absolutely, What would you like to know?

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Speaker 4: Well, what was your role specifically?

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Speaker 2: Oh? So I helped them develop some of the compatibility

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Speaker 2: And I was just there to help him feel supported and.

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Speaker 2: It's giving him that giving him the tools to make

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Speaker 3: Have you been watching maths because they've been doing a

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Speaker 1: That's the truth, There is some truth.

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Speaker 2: It's really funny when you're attracted to someone you really

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Speaker 1: I can't figure out why.

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Speaker 2: Not that he's stinky, not that he's dirty or she's dirty.

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Speaker 2: It's just a pheramone thing. So it is real, very real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, yeap, you gotta hope that. Yeah, it's like,

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Speaker 3: How is that affected by perfumes and that sort of thing, theodorant, deodorant.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting, the more perfume and deodorant that you

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Speaker 3: So that's what you stink. To their case, I was

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Speaker 3: going to just us back to commitment. I suppose you've

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Speaker 2: First of all, make sure you pick the right person,

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Speaker 2: So this is about connecting with them positively. When they're

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Speaker 2: to make sure nobody else gets them?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I like that. I'm talking about that.

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Speaker 3: There's some people that are saying that they're not going

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Speaker 4: Do you think that's the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've heard people say that too. I think it's

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Speaker 2: Is it more beneficial to even chat to people and

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Speaker 2: connect just like we are today. It's just a chat

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Speaker 2: as opposed to locking yourself down, because when you lock

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Speaker 3: For anyone who's interest said to hear more of your advice,

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Speaker 3: where can they find you online?

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Speaker 2: Jump on to Samantha Jane dot com today, I'd love

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Speaker 4: You, beautiful. Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 3: We've really appreciated hearing of your amazing advice and hopefully

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Speaker 3: it can help someone out there who's you know, arming

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Speaker 3: and airing about whether they should jump into dating at

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Speaker 3: this time.

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Speaker 1: My pleasure. Thanks for having me