Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Peter Hallier and welcome to you.
Speaker 2: Ain't Seen Nothing Yet the podcast that talks the movie
Speaker 2: lovers about classic and beloved movies they haven't quite got
Speaker 2: around to watching until now.
Speaker 1: And today's guest comedian Tom Gleason.
Speaker 3: I will have my vengers this life for the next.
Speaker 1: They take.
Speaker 4: The check.
Speaker 5: Life is like a box at Chuck. Let's have a
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 6: You ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 2: I've known today's guest Tom Gleeson for a touch under twenty.
Speaker 1: Years, and there are very few.
Speaker 2: Comics performing at Tom's level in Australia and possibly around
Speaker 2: the world at the moment. Tom he makes interesting choices.
Speaker 2: He decided years ago not to self deprecate. He decided
Speaker 2: not to pretend he's dumber than his audience. He decided
Speaker 2: to stand perched and proud on the higher ground. He
Speaker 2: actively tells his audience I'm better, smarter and funnier than
Speaker 2: you and it's to be honest, hard to disagree. It's
Speaker 2: been a master Thomas gone from strength to strength recently
Speaker 2: in both live comedy and also on television, his TV
Speaker 2: show Hard Quiz being one of the most popular shows
Speaker 2: on Australian television and Nettingham the.
Speaker 6: All Glorious gold LOGI.
Speaker 2: He's a great mate and somebody whose company I often crave.
Speaker 2: We often go on regional tours together where we end
Speaker 2: up on one of our hotel balconies after a bottle
Speaker 2: or two of white wine about comedy, family, marriage, and
Speaker 2: of course movies. So it was easy asking Tom to
Speaker 2: be a part of you ain't seen nothing yet. The
Speaker 2: hard part that Tom was finding which movie he hadn't
Speaker 2: actually seen and the one that he actually found, well,
Speaker 2: it surprised me.
Speaker 5: Good, it's Tom Gleeson here. My favorite films are two
Speaker 5: thousand and one, A Space O, See Opened, The Part Doors, Apocalypse,
Speaker 5: Now Mor and Wake in Front. But up until now
Speaker 5: I had never seen The Lion King.
Speaker 1: You are.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 2: The circle of life is indeed investigated in Disney's nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety four classic animation The Lion King. Simba, a young
Speaker 2: fresh lion prince not from Belair but rather the Pride
Speaker 2: Lands of Africa, gets framed for his dad's death by
Speaker 2: an a hole of an uncle.
Speaker 5: Scar.
Speaker 6: In exile, Simba meets a colorful collection of characters and
Speaker 6: songs before getting it on with his old friend, before
Speaker 6: realizing he needs to go back to confront his demons.
Speaker 6: Tom Gleeson, Tom Gleason, welcome to you. Ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 6: Why the hell has it taken you so long to
Speaker 6: see The Lion King.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I've thought about it, and there's actually I've
Speaker 5: seen lots of films. I'm like you, I love films.
Speaker 5: I've seen any film of significance or a popular film.
Speaker 5: I try to go out and see it.
Speaker 1: Well, you're a tough one.
Speaker 2: When I pitched this idea to you, most people knew
Speaker 2: straight away. Jude Lucy was like the sound of music.
Speaker 2: Never seen ben my mass Eten, never seen et Yes,
Speaker 2: so you had to really think about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you kept on mentioning, I've seen it. I've seen
Speaker 5: I feel like I've seen every film. So anyway, then
Speaker 5: I narrowed in on Lion King because they started promoting
Speaker 5: the new one and I realized, oh, I haven't seen
Speaker 5: the early one. And I've realized that the early nineties
Speaker 5: is a bit of a blank spot for me. It's
Speaker 5: because I was in a band back then, and that's
Speaker 5: all I cared about. I was in a band. I
Speaker 5: was out at night. You know, A new a new
Speaker 5: family film comes out in nineteen ninety four. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't shit. I had no nephews or nieces or
Speaker 5: children at the time, so I was just outside. I
Speaker 5: had no connection to kids or families, and I was
Speaker 5: just out in a band, so I didn't care. Well.
Speaker 1: I have a confession that I'm not sure ever.
Speaker 2: I mentioned this to you that I hadn't actually seen
Speaker 2: it either, and so I watched it for the first
Speaker 2: time two nights ago.
Speaker 5: It's a gen X black hole, it was.
Speaker 2: I went back to look at the release date of
Speaker 2: it in Australia to kind of work out where I
Speaker 2: was because I can't even really remember it. The Lion
Speaker 2: King being a phenomenon caught me by surprise, like years later.
Speaker 2: It's like, why does everybody love the Lion King?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't even realized it was that big.
Speaker 5: It came back to me via stand up comedy because
Speaker 5: it was a reference in all these comedians who are
Speaker 5: ten years younger than us, they'd all have little references
Speaker 5: to the Lion King, and you know, someone say Kuna Matata.
Speaker 5: That takes me back, and I'm like, doesn't take me back.
Speaker 2: So it was like, I think it was August twenty six,
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, right, So I was not in a band,
Speaker 2: but I was traveling around Europe my first year out
Speaker 2: of school, and I had gone to Finland because I
Speaker 2: had an ex.
Speaker 1: As saying now X, she was even then an ex.
Speaker 5: She was a future.
Speaker 2: She was a future. X. She's only my girlfriend for
Speaker 2: a short period of time. But we went over there
Speaker 2: and then kind of travel around Europe, and I was traveling.
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to go see The Lion King in
Speaker 2: my spare time as a nineteen year old. So I
Speaker 2: left in May and came back in October. So it
Speaker 2: basically was straight down the middle of my time away. Yes,
Speaker 2: I remember seeing two films when I was away, Forrest
Speaker 2: Gump and Four Weddings in a Funeral.
Speaker 1: So those films are around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw those. They're films for adults, films for adults.
Speaker 5: I didn't see family films back there.
Speaker 1: And so what were your thoughts?
Speaker 5: Tell me how you watched it the year this classic format.
Speaker 5: So my kids went and saw the new line King
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, and then so we said
Speaker 5: I should see the original, and so well they'd seen
Speaker 5: the original already without me, because I'd used it as
Speaker 5: a babyminder, so I'd sort of I'd put it on
Speaker 5: for them and then but I didn't watch it. I
Speaker 5: went and did emails and did something else. Aul, Yeah,
Speaker 5: and that sounded Suss didn't have to anyway, So we
Speaker 5: agreed that we'd watch it together. And our classic cinema
Speaker 5: thing that I do with my kids is it's usually
Speaker 5: a weekend afternoon. It was a sad day afternoon and
Speaker 5: I'll have I'll have a few glasses of wine in
Speaker 5: front of the fire while watching the film. And it
Speaker 5: was beautiful. Yep, it was a lovely afternoon and it
Speaker 5: was a great film. It was. I mean, it's obviously
Speaker 5: a great film, but it's things I was surprised at
Speaker 5: were there weren't actually that many songs in it, which
Speaker 5: I think were very tastefully placed. I think off the
Speaker 5: top of my head, they're like.
Speaker 1: Four or something, let's say four or five.
Speaker 5: Not many. I thought it was going to be a
Speaker 5: musical from beginning to end, and it wasn't. The story
Speaker 5: was very very simple and very short too. I think
Speaker 5: the whole film was eighty eight minutes including credits, so
Speaker 5: it was actually quite short.
Speaker 1: The usually take off a bround about seven minutes.
Speaker 2: I thought that when I looked at it, even eighty
Speaker 2: four minutes, So you take it if you take off
Speaker 2: seven minutes for that brings down like a seventy seven
Speaker 2: minute film. But that was the thing that occurred to me,
Speaker 2: that how economical it was and how simple it was.
Speaker 1: It got in.
Speaker 2: Really quickly, it got out really quickly, told the story.
Speaker 2: It told the story. There's no there, you know, Junapete
Speaker 2: would have been disgusted even to the point where there
Speaker 2: was the moment. Obviously, and of course, if you're listening
Speaker 2: to this, we recommend you watch The Lion King because
Speaker 2: there's gonna be spoilers all the.
Speaker 1: Way through this.
Speaker 5: But you've had your chance.
Speaker 2: You've had your chances that even though we just watched
Speaker 2: it this week, you've had your chance. But when Musafa,
Speaker 2: when he dies and scar comes and says, run what
Speaker 2: will your mother think?
Speaker 5: What amaking it to run away?
Speaker 4: Similar run, run away and never return.
Speaker 5: Kill him?
Speaker 2: He really just runs. There's no kind of I reckon
Speaker 2: if you do it now, And I wonder how they
Speaker 2: do it. We have neither of us have seen the
Speaker 2: recent live animation release, but I wonder if you to
Speaker 2: do it now, there might be a bit more from Simba.
Speaker 2: Oh but shit, but what about mum? What's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: And then are you sure I should?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: There might be a bit more.
Speaker 2: Even though it's a kid's film, there might be a
Speaker 2: bit more kind of wrestling with the idea of just running.
Speaker 1: But he just okay, I'm out, Maddie. I'm going.
Speaker 5: I'm running. The plot's got to keep going, so I'm
Speaker 5: out of here. He just runs. Well, that was an
Speaker 5: interesting issue too, is the father dying? Is I've sort
Speaker 5: of I'm added a little bit of I disagree with
Speaker 5: my wife a little bit. Sometimes my wife floats to
Speaker 5: preempt scary bits in films, whereas I just feel like
Speaker 5: seeing a scary bit in a film for a child
Speaker 5: is that's part of life. That's like, oh, it scared you.
Speaker 5: And also it's supposed to scare you. You're supposed to
Speaker 5: see your heart's supposed to race, and then when the
Speaker 5: redemption comes around, you're like, oh, everything worked out after all.
Speaker 5: You don't get that feeling if you're miss the other feeling.
Speaker 5: Absolutely so when that happened, when the father was in trouble,
Speaker 5: both kids just bolted out of the room because i'd
Speaker 5: been they'd seen it before, and my wife had worn
Speaker 5: them that that was a scary bit, and it's not
Speaker 5: actually that scary. It's actually rather tastefully done. He just
Speaker 5: disappears into the dust, into the middle of the stampede,
Speaker 5: and you don't really see it, and then you just
Speaker 5: next time you see him, he's motionless, and it's beautifully done.
Speaker 5: But I feel like it's kind of the whole point
Speaker 5: of the film. It's the first dramatic punch in the
Speaker 5: guards and my kids are running around with their hands
Speaker 5: on theres going scary down.
Speaker 1: Can't watch it. It's scary.
Speaker 5: My kids are seven and four, by the way, they're
Speaker 5: not teenagers, so that's kind of disappointing. But I watched
Speaker 5: it because I was you know, I M a grunnup.
Speaker 5: I could handle it.
Speaker 2: What were the images that you had of the Lion
Speaker 2: King before you went in, Like, what were the iconic
Speaker 2: kind of things that you had in your mind your
Speaker 2: expectations to seek? I mean the obvious one, of course,
Speaker 2: I think is the the raising Simba. Yeah, by raising it,
Speaker 2: you've got a lot of those jokes that we hear
Speaker 2: about referencing the whole holding holding the line up and
Speaker 2: that happened all that straight away. That was on the
Speaker 2: opening credits, which I believe Disney was so loved that
Speaker 2: opening sequence so much. That was basically the trailer, and
Speaker 2: then it's the first time they've ever done that, just
Speaker 2: release that.
Speaker 1: But so you mentioned that the music you expected music?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, well, I also i'd heard of Kernel
Speaker 5: Matata as a reference. I understood that straight away. My
Speaker 5: boy had been running around for the last previous week,
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks just going if I was a
Speaker 5: young war hoog, and I didn't know what he meant.
Speaker 5: And then I saw that number. Oh, that's why he's
Speaker 5: been doing that. So that was nice. So I learned
Speaker 5: about the wart hog. And but the other part that
Speaker 5: I really liked was I feel like this was one
Speaker 5: of the first films. I mean, Aladdin is probably another
Speaker 5: one around that time that had famous voiceover artists. Yes,
Speaker 5: so I haven't I beat it, but I did enjoy
Speaker 5: trying to guess who was who I was.
Speaker 1: Going to ask you about that. So have you have
Speaker 1: you imb beat its?
Speaker 5: No, I haven't. I haven't researched it since. So I'm
Speaker 5: thinking Scar was, I'm thinking Jeremy Irons or Alan Rickman.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure which.
Speaker 1: Yes, first instinct was correct.
Speaker 5: Jeremy Matthew Broderick was the older simber tell them the truth?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 5: Who else? There was some? Oh, there were some other
Speaker 5: weird ones.
Speaker 2: You know who young Symbol was? If you know this one,
Speaker 2: I'll be very very surprised.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know Young Simbra. I'm not sure who
Speaker 5: that is.
Speaker 1: He was?
Speaker 2: What's his name? He's one of the kids from He's
Speaker 2: one of the kids in Full House. Oh yes, Jonathan
Speaker 2: somebody Price or something like that.
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, yes, here's one of the one of the
Speaker 5: many kids.
Speaker 2: Not important enough to for us to stop stop the showdown.
Speaker 5: Oh. The one that was a surprise to me is
Speaker 5: I think Rowan Atkinson was in there someway. I'm afraid
Speaker 5: you're shipping up to be a pretty attic. Indeed, got
Speaker 5: that one.
Speaker 2: Yes he was Dodo Bird, Yes, yes, that was him.
Speaker 2: Did you know the mere Caddy type thing?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, who's that is?
Speaker 1: An actor who's very theatrical. It was Nathan Lane.
Speaker 4: Look, bad things happen and you can't do anything about it,
Speaker 4: right right?
Speaker 5: Wrong?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, of course, yeah. No, he was very good too.
Speaker 5: I couldn't spot Nathan Lane. But now that you mentioned,
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: He's done very well. Lean Neeson was considered. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if he was what is considered me, but he
Speaker 2: was considered for the roll of Scar. You can imagine
Speaker 2: and lean Aisan being a pretty good Scar. So, okay,
Speaker 2: did you like that? You like the music? You mentioned
Speaker 2: it there were there wasn't a lot, but did you
Speaker 2: like it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I wasn't as taken with the I thought Hacoon Mactada
Speaker 2: would be a much catchier.
Speaker 1: So to be honest, maybe they've only said it once
Speaker 1: and I'm forty four.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that might be part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but so those things get committed to memory from several viewings. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so we're dealing with the film we've both seen once
Speaker 5: and yeah and and like you you know, we're saying
Speaker 5: when you see it referenced in other things, it was
Speaker 5: a favorite. It's a family film, and because it's a
Speaker 5: family film, it was used by parents to make their
Speaker 5: kids sit in the one place for a long time,
Speaker 5: or it's a rainy day, I will put line king on.
Speaker 5: So yeah, so for a generation, it's a film that
Speaker 5: they've probably seen at least fifteen times in their childhood alone,
Speaker 5: let alone recently.
Speaker 1: Did you did you did you identify who was?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I thought that was the easiest Darth Vader.
Speaker 5: Yes. Yes, it was really throwing me actually, because his
Speaker 5: voice sounded exactly like Darth Vader. It was like if
Speaker 5: he started to wheeze that Mavasa he would have been.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Well, there was a scene where he's telling Simba that
Speaker 2: like about I'm you're my son and all that, and
Speaker 2: it's so weird because you expecting the scene together we
Speaker 2: will rule the galaxy.
Speaker 5: It's such a yeah moment, Mom, you have forgotten me? No,
Speaker 5: how could I?
Speaker 3: You have forgotten who you are and so forgotten me.
Speaker 3: Look inside yourself, Cinema. You are than what you have become.
Speaker 3: You must take your place in the circle of life.
Speaker 5: How can I go back? I'm not where I used
Speaker 5: to be.
Speaker 3: Remember who you are? You are my son in the
Speaker 3: one true key and another empar who you are.
Speaker 5: No, please don't leave me, bother, don't.
Speaker 2: Leave me American.
Speaker 5: No, I really enjoyed it. Yeah, I was like I
Speaker 5: was enjoying listening to Darth Vader. But because I was,
Speaker 5: I was starting to imagine Darth Vader doing the voice over,
Speaker 5: like Darth Vader had conquered the Empire and that he'd
Speaker 5: sort of obviously the Death Start had been blown up
Speaker 5: to pieces, and as a result of that, he was
Speaker 5: probably out of work, so it's doing voiceovers on the side.
Speaker 5: So I was picturing Darth Vader. Maybe they had a
Speaker 5: little sound booth in the Death Star or maybe one
Speaker 5: of the one of the bigger ships they had, and
Speaker 5: he was just laying down some tracks for the for
Speaker 5: the Lion King with Matthew Broderick. Was Ferris Buella, Ferris Buellah.
Speaker 2: Was there a big finish mash. I thought I worked hard,
Speaker 2: didn't work hard. I thought I had this idea for
Speaker 2: a routine years ago, like in the early two thousands,
Speaker 2: when I found out that David Prowse did the voice.
Speaker 2: So David Prowse was the body of Darth Vader. That's
Speaker 2: a huge kind of guy from Yorkshire and he but
Speaker 2: I always knew James Earl Jones did the voice, but
Speaker 2: I thought maybe that that the face was David Pross
Speaker 2: when the Darth Vader is revealed.
Speaker 5: But he's he's a third actor.
Speaker 1: It's a third actor.
Speaker 2: So I had this routine of David Prowse telling his
Speaker 2: kids when he just scored the role of Darth Vade,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be in this huge movie called Star Wars,
Speaker 2: and then and then George Lucas has to tell him
Speaker 2: that he actually hasn't. Got it gone with the voice
Speaker 2: of James L.
Speaker 1: Jones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they get him in on set. They're like, all right,
Speaker 5: put the suit on. All right, I'm ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 5: I'm ready to be Darth Vader. Let's go. Where are
Speaker 5: you going to put the microphone. We're not putting a
Speaker 5: microphone on you. Why we still want you to say
Speaker 5: the lines for the other actors. What do you mean
Speaker 5: for the other actors. I'm an actor as well. Well,
Speaker 5: then Joe Lucas what I say.
Speaker 2: But in the in the in the third movie, there's
Speaker 2: going to be a big scene where you get reveals
Speaker 2: good news to his kids.
Speaker 5: Okay, he takes the name, he reads the script. Kids,
Speaker 5: kids come in here the third one. First of all,
Speaker 5: little Secret Return of the Jedi, that's what it's called.
Speaker 5: Don't tell anyone else. Great news. Look at this scene.
Speaker 5: I'll let you read it. Hands it to his kids.
Speaker 5: His kids read it Darth Vader takes his helmet off.
Speaker 1: That's right to reveal Daddy, it's a close up.
Speaker 5: Daddy'll be here. It'll Daddy.
Speaker 1: There'll be a bit of makeup, but it'll be me
Speaker 1: and it'll be close up.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be one of the pivotal moments of this
Speaker 2: amazing sequel.
Speaker 1: You're going to be proud.
Speaker 5: It gets to the day. All right, you're going to
Speaker 5: pin the microphone on. No, what do you mean though, microphone?
Speaker 5: I'm taking my helmet off. I'm about to speak. You
Speaker 5: don't speak. We've already established that. All right, Okay, I'm
Speaker 5: ready to take my helmet off. No, no, no, you're going
Speaker 5: and stand over. There we've got And the reason he's
Speaker 5: not even a famous active by the way, just some
Speaker 5: other actors.
Speaker 1: The guy I think he worked in catering. He just
Speaker 1: had a good double chin.
Speaker 2: But the reason I couldn't kind of quite make it
Speaker 2: work because I think I'm not very good at accents,
Speaker 2: and I think you to make it really funny to
Speaker 2: be able to do a really good Yorkshire accent and
Speaker 2: even do a bit of George Lucas you know, Zabe
Speaker 2: Mcleahy's all the voices.
Speaker 1: Does great George Lucas to do the voices would really
Speaker 1: bring it to life. Yeah, so this is the first
Speaker 1: Disney film. I like the job th fax throughout the show.
Speaker 2: This is the first Disney film which was from an
Speaker 2: original storyline. Yes, so most of the others are adaptions.
Speaker 2: In Your Aladdin's Your Pocahontas, this was an original sorry line.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Pocahontas, all the best animators and the best
Speaker 2: workers of Disney were put on Pocahontas to work on that,
Speaker 2: thinking that was going to be the big film, and
Speaker 2: this was considered that the B team.
Speaker 1: They kind of refer to them as we're working on
Speaker 1: the Lion King.
Speaker 2: It's become the Disney's the biggest, one of their biggest hits,
Speaker 2: A billion dollars. I think I made a billion dollars
Speaker 2: in ninety four. I'm not sure how we didn't hear
Speaker 2: about that, but we were busy being adults. What did
Speaker 2: you think of the love scene when oh, yes, Zanola returns, Yeah,
Speaker 2: find Simba.
Speaker 5: Their childhood friends. So then they're a little bit older
Speaker 5: and it gets a little bit blue lagoon, if you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It does get very blue.
Speaker 2: There's there's a shot and there's a rumor that where
Speaker 2: there's a bit where little Dust she's a hot cat
Speaker 2: and Simper it's.
Speaker 5: Been a while, Yeah it has.
Speaker 1: Simba's not getting an action with the ward hog and.
Speaker 5: The Ferris Bueller becomes aware of his new abilities.
Speaker 1: Too many days off to think about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all very implied. I mean, it's absolutely spraying
Speaker 5: pheromones all over the giant.
Speaker 2: There is one way a puff of dust goes up
Speaker 2: and supposedly in the in the in the dust and
Speaker 2: in the stars, you can see the word sex. It
Speaker 2: kind of kind of a bit of an in joke
Speaker 2: and Disney kind of they responded when that kind of
Speaker 2: got out there, say no, it's not it's not sex.
Speaker 2: It's s f X is in special special effects. So
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a shout out to our special
Speaker 2: effects department. Yes, I'm not sure that there's true.
Speaker 5: They wouldn't have noticed. They're all rooting.
Speaker 2: They're madly rooting it Disney. Sure they might be working
Speaker 2: on back us, but we're having the fun over here.
Speaker 2: But there is a there's a moment where they're rolling
Speaker 2: around and uh, the female line, I want to say,
Speaker 2: Nola I'm not sure if that's correct, but she lies
Speaker 2: down and it really is like a it's come hither. Yes,
Speaker 2: it is like, yeah, she may as well be on
Speaker 2: a mattress. Yeah, game on, It is a game.
Speaker 5: On a Simba's open for business.
Speaker 1: We don't visually see her opening for business.
Speaker 5: But it was done in a very clever way because
Speaker 5: the way that she was lying was something that only
Speaker 5: an adult would recognize her as it means nothing to children.
Speaker 5: Because I was watching it with my kids and my
Speaker 5: oldest daughter seven, and when they were just sort of
Speaker 5: nuzzling against each other, I knew that it was hitting
Speaker 5: the mark because she hates that. She's at the age
Speaker 5: where that's extremely embarrassing. That was the other scary scene
Speaker 5: for her in the film. I'm serious, really Yeah, So
Speaker 5: the father dying, she ran out of the room and
Speaker 5: when that happened, she blocked her ears.
Speaker 2: Ah no, this is the worst, maybe she'd say Selton John.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The other thing to consider because apparently that song that
Speaker 2: was is that where they play can you Feel the
Speaker 2: Love Tonight? I think so, Yeah, it's a song they
Speaker 2: use I reckon, You're right, and I think they took
Speaker 2: it out of the film. Man.
Speaker 1: I think John even kind of said that that song, Hey,
Speaker 1: I write a song for.
Speaker 5: You, Yeah, and about lines. Come on, that's the song
Speaker 5: is about lines reading. Put it in the movie. That's
Speaker 5: why I wrote it. That's all I think of when
Speaker 5: I play it. That was a deleted scene from Rocketman.
Speaker 2: Actually as Elton John thinking about lines routing, he actually
Speaker 2: goes to an African safari.
Speaker 5: So it's going to be confused with Elton John because
Speaker 5: he so he wrote that song, only that song for
Speaker 5: that film, and then there was Beauty in the Beast
Speaker 5: around the same time. Is that Yeah, that was another
Speaker 5: thing he did that.
Speaker 2: Was a stage production circle of life in el John
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 5: I don't know, sounds like it would be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like Elton John kind of thing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So where does this rate as far as kids' films?
Speaker 2: That's it's hard to kind of maybe judges as men
Speaker 2: in their forties comparing it to two thousand and one
Speaker 2: Space Odyssey, But where does it rate for you?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: It was very, very good, but unfortunately it loses a
Speaker 5: bit of luster as an adult because you can view
Speaker 5: it cynically. So, I mean I did really enjoy the story.
Speaker 5: I enjoyed being able to watch it with my children. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and it's a joke that I can share with them
Speaker 5: now because understand what they're talking about. But in terms
Speaker 5: of a grand picture, I'm like, I know why this
Speaker 5: movie has connected. It's not just about the story and
Speaker 5: the music and everything else. It's the theme running through it.
Speaker 5: It's about loss. And so it's essentially it's almost like basically,
Speaker 5: isn't it well, Yeah, it's like religion for atheists almost.
Speaker 5: It's almost like it appeals to adults on another level.
Speaker 5: It's like if you had troubled explaining you know, the
Speaker 5: mysteries of life, circle of life. I mean it's perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So that's kind of great, which I think really helps
Speaker 5: it along. And I think also you only have to
Speaker 5: have lost one loved one, which most people have, and
Speaker 5: then it sort of connects you straight into that, which
Speaker 5: is what Disney does. It's a specialty just mainlining into
Speaker 5: your emotion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, done extraordinarily well.
Speaker 2: And the because I wonder when Toy Story Toy Story
Speaker 2: must have come out of Rantic.
Speaker 1: I remember going to see Toy Story nine.
Speaker 5: I'm going to say ninety five, maybe the year after.
Speaker 2: You're right, because I remember seeing Toy Story as an
Speaker 2: adult by myself and thinking is this weird that I'm
Speaker 2: going to see this kid's film? Yeah, by myself, but
Speaker 2: I think there was enough buzz about the animation and
Speaker 2: like how far the animation has progressed, And it's a.
Speaker 5: Lot of funny. It's the humor in it is quite adult.
Speaker 5: By that, I mean like ironic or sarcastic, or it's
Speaker 5: got a lot of gags in it, so you can
Speaker 5: so you can enjoy that as an adult. Whereas Lion
Speaker 5: King does it does it has very little of that. Oh,
Speaker 5: it has bits of that, but not much, not as
Speaker 5: much or your classic Disney film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take us through how Tom Gleasee and young Tong
Speaker 2: Gleason when he wasn't in the band obviously is Like
Speaker 2: I said, you were the one that had to think
Speaker 2: hardest about which movie you hadn't seen, Like what was
Speaker 2: your movie rituals growing up? How often would you get
Speaker 2: to the cinema to see adult films?
Speaker 5: Well when I was a teenager. For me, I went
Speaker 5: to all boys boarding school from the age of eleven,
Speaker 5: So my favorable memory of watching films was film night,
Speaker 5: which would be Friday night or Saturday night. If you'd
Speaker 5: watch with like hundreds of other boys, teenage boys. So
Speaker 5: the big films were any film that was anti establishment.
Speaker 5: I mean, think about it. We're in the middle of
Speaker 5: an all boys Catholic school with heaps of rules, and
Speaker 5: then on Friday night, what would we like watching Blues Brothers,
Speaker 5: Animal House Stripes, all of those ones that sort of
Speaker 5: grow out of the Saturday night Live sort of cast.
Speaker 5: Any Ferris Bueller's Day Off is another one. Like anything
Speaker 5: that involved a rebel kicking against the rules was just
Speaker 5: we loved it or James Bond for some reason.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first you were? The first film
Speaker 1: you've seen? You saw?
Speaker 5: So ever, the first film I ever remember seeing in
Speaker 5: the cinema? If I must be casting my eyeback because
Speaker 5: I know the release date of the film. And I
Speaker 5: remembered Mum saying, because we lived in the country, so
Speaker 5: seeing films in the city was a rare event, and
Speaker 5: that's the only place where we could go to the cinema.
Speaker 5: And I remember my mum reminiscing the last film she'd
Speaker 5: seen was Gallipoli, so we're talking nineteen seventy nine or eighty,
Speaker 5: and I remember her complaining, Oh, I hope we don't
Speaker 5: get blood seats like those seats I got during Gallipoli
Speaker 5: were right up the front row and I got a
Speaker 5: sore neck, and I'm like, yeah, well, I don't know
Speaker 5: the Diggers went through more, mum, But anyway, Turkish delight.
Speaker 5: I saw that, so I remember it was my birthday.
Speaker 5: But even though it was my birthday, we went through
Speaker 5: a cinema that my mother and my older sisters chose
Speaker 5: because we're visiting them at boarding school at the time,
Speaker 5: and we saw Tutsie. So I think that was nine
Speaker 5: eighty one, so I must have been seven, But I
Speaker 5: do remember thinking, I mean, it's a man in a dress. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but also Dustin Hoffman is such a funny performer. Plus
Speaker 5: Bill Murray's in it, and he was funny, and I
Speaker 5: just thought that this was this film was hilarious.
Speaker 4: I'm Edward Kimberly, the reckless brother of my sister Anton
Speaker 4: Edward Kimberly, who was finally vindicated. This sister's good name.
Speaker 4: I'm Edward Kimberly. Edward Kimberly, I'm not mentally ill, but
Speaker 4: proud and lucky and strong enough to be the woman.
Speaker 4: That was the best part of my manhood the best
Speaker 4: part of myself. That is one nutty hospital.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love TUTSI.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it was. I saw it at the cinema
Speaker 5: and I've always had a soft spot for it, to
Speaker 5: the point where when Missus Daubtfire came out, I'm like, ah,
Speaker 5: I've been done before. This is totsy, Yeah, Totsy.
Speaker 2: Do you remember there was I remember growing up so
Speaker 2: I was born in seventy five, so around the time
Speaker 2: I reckon between the you know, from six seven eight
Speaker 2: years old, there was a kind of like a lovely
Speaker 2: time for Australian film and I remember like going to
Speaker 2: the movies to see as take us to see Australian
Speaker 2: films like The Man for of Snow River. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I seen far Lap. I saw Fatty Finn, Fatty Finn
Speaker 2: at the drive through. Yeah, drive in sorry yeap.
Speaker 1: Drive through one scene.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good scene. Anyway, go around again, down on.
Speaker 5: I want to see the next thcene. We got to
Speaker 5: go in this drive through every night for a month
Speaker 5: before we see this film.
Speaker 2: And I have seen cold I'd done thee and that
Speaker 2: was that's right, that would I would have been close
Speaker 2: to eleven or so I think when that came out,
Speaker 2: but uh, there was a real celebration about when an
Speaker 2: Australian film came out. I mean that's my recollection of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when my brother and I were into my older brother,
Speaker 5: we used to were at boarding school. Sometimes we go
Speaker 5: out on the Sunday and we're going, you know, so
Speaker 5: your teenage years then, and you want to go and
Speaker 5: see a horror film. We'll go and see things like Razorback.
Speaker 5: We'd see Australian horror films, right, yeah, and they were
Speaker 5: they were fantastic because I was so schlucky. They're still
Speaker 5: scary though. Yeah, we loved it.
Speaker 1: So And how how is your movie habits now?
Speaker 2: Obviously with two kids, I find most people go through
Speaker 2: I think where you're at Grand zero with the kids,
Speaker 2: that movie is one of the first things to go.
Speaker 1: It might have changed a little bit since when my
Speaker 1: kids were.
Speaker 2: Young because of Netflix and those you can actually you know,
Speaker 2: be home cinema, Yes, exploded even more.
Speaker 5: The quality of the TV at home helps, so like
Speaker 5: I've got a big TV now and it's four K
Speaker 5: and we got good on and it's got a good
Speaker 5: sound system. So there used to be a real, a
Speaker 5: real primal motivation to go to the cinema to get
Speaker 5: that complete, you know, to get to be completely immersed
Speaker 5: in the film. Whereas I must say it used to
Speaker 5: be thinking I did a lot when I was out
Speaker 5: doing gigs. I don't do it as much as I
Speaker 5: used to do so when I'm away from my family.
Speaker 5: The Adelaide Fringe, as you know, it corresponds with Oscar season,
Speaker 5: so often we go there and we catch up with
Speaker 5: films during the day while we're doing shows, which is great,
Speaker 5: that's but other than that, I mean, the turnaround is
Speaker 5: so quick between new release and streaming so or renting online,
Speaker 5: so it's if you're prepared to just withstand three months
Speaker 5: of spoilers. And that doesn't happen to me. I live
Speaker 5: in a country town full of other people with kids,
Speaker 5: and no one gives a shit about the latest release
Speaker 5: where I live, Like, I don't have to walk down
Speaker 5: the main street of Romsey gag spilers spilt what happens
Speaker 5: in the latest tarantine I found. I don't want to.
Speaker 5: It's fine, so I usually I'm happy. I mean, actually
Speaker 5: Quentin Tarantina, my wife and I will go and see that,
Speaker 5: but rarely, like usually just let it slide for a
Speaker 5: couple of months, and I do think if they're watching
Speaker 5: on TV.
Speaker 2: The Lady Tarantino Once upon a Time in Hollywood where
Speaker 2: he's a filmmaker. When he makes a film, I want
Speaker 2: to see it as soon as I can.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 2: But my wife also enjoys his film. So it was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: we need to make some time. But with Tarantina, you
Speaker 2: need to make four hours. Yes, like as far as
Speaker 2: getting there, you know, because it's a two hour and
Speaker 2: forty minute film.
Speaker 5: You don't want to be tired.
Speaker 2: It's basically three hours, and then the journey there and
Speaker 2: back you don't want to be tired. Movies are a
Speaker 2: way higher priority to me than my wife.
Speaker 5: So she'd be like, I are the same thing going
Speaker 5: on now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, she'd be like, oh, we'll see it, you know,
Speaker 2: well maybe next weekend. Yeah no, maybe maybe next weekend
Speaker 2: is not what I want to hear.
Speaker 1: I want to hear when I want to book tickets.
Speaker 2: So eventually I had a freakish kind of a day
Speaker 2: off and I was able to kind of slide away
Speaker 2: and see it by myself.
Speaker 1: I love watching movies by myself.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I'm a bit the same it's like,
Speaker 5: like I was telling you about how sometimes trying to
Speaker 5: get my wife to watch her film is like trying
Speaker 5: to get a cat to have a bath. It's just
Speaker 5: really she's just really reluctant. When I was trying to
Speaker 5: get her to watch Dunkirk, and she's like, oh, it's
Speaker 5: a war film, and I'm like, yeah, but it's it's
Speaker 5: Christopher Nolan and it's it's a visual masterpiece and it's
Speaker 5: been given wall to all five star reviews because independent
Speaker 5: assesses of the film enjoyed it like more than all
Speaker 5: the other films they've seen. Like it's an enjoyable experience.
Speaker 5: Is the point they're trying to make, Like if you
Speaker 5: sat there and watched it, it would bring pleasure to you.
Speaker 5: You know, pleasure. Do you know what pleasure is? It's
Speaker 5: this thing that you just enjoy Like, and it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: but it's a wolf. I know, it's a war film.
Speaker 5: He's reinvented the genre. I'm just trapped and yeah. And
Speaker 5: she finally watches it and goes, that was amazing. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I know, it was amazing. I just watch it straight away.
Speaker 5: So weirdly enough, we're a bit the same with Tarantino
Speaker 5: trying to get it to see that.
Speaker 2: Is a bit tricky, but to light it up. But
Speaker 2: Bridge is a bit the same. She will say anything
Speaker 2: like any period pieces. She's like, nah, don't don't really
Speaker 2: want to like you. She didn't watch Game with Thrones. He no,
Speaker 2: just you know, dragons and medievals. It's just silly, you know.
Speaker 2: But she loves like where Swing loves sopranos. It's not
Speaker 2: as she watches crap television. No, it's a little bit
Speaker 2: of crap. She started watching Friends again. For some reason,
Speaker 2: people have biases in their viewing.
Speaker 5: They think they don't like a genre exactly, but then
Speaker 5: when something comes through and breaks the genre, that's that's
Speaker 5: it's well worth watch.
Speaker 2: Watch, I'd explained to a game of Thronge is about
Speaker 2: the same themes. It's about power, yeah, it's about politics
Speaker 2: at politics. It's just said in pretend medieval times. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you get dragons. Imagine the dragon in West Wing. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think that would be the only thing that could
Speaker 2: improve West Wing. To be honest, I like to ask
Speaker 2: our guests, if you watch your attitude with crying in movies,
Speaker 2: how often do you cry in a movie? Which are
Speaker 2: the movies that made you cry? Or are you just
Speaker 2: are you and I and curtain.
Speaker 5: I it's very very tricky. My wife hates me crying.
Speaker 1: Ever ever or she's really funerals well all the time.
Speaker 5: Well we've been together for a very long time, Like
Speaker 5: we we've been together for well over twenty years anyway,
Speaker 5: So my wife, very early on in our relationship, I
Speaker 5: was upset it's something, and I started crying and she
Speaker 5: looked at me like and she just walked out of
Speaker 5: the room. And I talked about it days later. I said,
Speaker 5: you know, like, you know, there's this whole thing about
Speaker 5: men being sensitive, like you're supposed to support that, you know,
Speaker 5: because it's about you know, not being you know, not
Speaker 5: having to be a man who bottles it all up.
Speaker 5: It's healthy to cry and all the rest of it.
Speaker 5: And I said, you don't, and she's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I know. I should. I should have been more supportive.
Speaker 5: And she's sort of talking about it in those terms,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, but I sort of got to brass tax.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you don't like it? They do, and she's like, nah, nah, don't.
Speaker 5: It's not a good look, is it.
Speaker 2: Because she physically doesn't let the look at you an
Speaker 2: ugly crying that she's married to a man, and it's
Speaker 2: not strong.
Speaker 5: I think that it's really really I think she feels
Speaker 5: like she's letting the sisterhood down. But I think she
Speaker 5: likes the idea that I'm extremely dependable. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 5: I think it's a very old fashioned relationship. She's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: well you you go out there and you get things done,
Speaker 5: and crying is not part of your brief mane. So
Speaker 5: crying in films is a bit of a no not
Speaker 5: if she's around. If I'm on my own, I don't
Speaker 5: really care. Sometimes I'm the thing I'm most concerned about
Speaker 5: is my company. Actually I don't care about crying myself
Speaker 5: at all. But it's like like the classic is on aeroplanes,
Speaker 5: and like you know that, and I reckon part of
Speaker 5: the reason of aeroplanes. Everyone has their theory why aeroplanes
Speaker 5: make people cry. I think it's cast people are between
Speaker 5: potential not traumatic events, but emotional events. They're either leaving
Speaker 5: or arriving, so it's a tube full of people that
Speaker 5: are very tense emotionally. They've either said good goodbye to
Speaker 5: people or they're about to embark on a new adventure.
Speaker 5: So there's just a lot of emotion in the plane.
Speaker 2: Also coupled with and I believe this is the actual
Speaker 2: reason why people cry is less oxygen.
Speaker 1: Less oxygen, Yeah, it makes you more emotional. I think a.
Speaker 5: Couple of white wines in the mix.
Speaker 1: White wines.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm my third chartie. Yeah, I'm in tears
Speaker 2: so on a plane.
Speaker 5: My main concern is because I've got the noise canceling
Speaker 5: headphone and I'm immersed in it, and i always pick
Speaker 5: a drama. I always tend to pick a drama and
Speaker 5: so and then something real happens and it catches you.
Speaker 5: My concern is if I start crying, I won't stop.
Speaker 5: So that's the only reason I'm trying not to give
Speaker 5: into it, because I'm worried I'm just going to fall
Speaker 5: to pieces and twenty years where the crying that I've
Speaker 5: been repressing with my wife is going to pour out
Speaker 5: on the plane. I'm going to cry my way all
Speaker 5: the way to the baggage carousel.
Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, sometimes sometimes I'm in situations where I'm
Speaker 2: like I could cry here, but I'm going to fight it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to fight it.
Speaker 2: This film's going to earn it, although it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: There are times where I'm like, no, I can't won you.
Speaker 2: Have you ever thought yourself? Am I willing myself to
Speaker 2: cry here for some reason? And then then sometimes you
Speaker 2: start you go like, oh, wow, this is a tap
Speaker 2: you can't turn off.
Speaker 5: Really, no, I know. And there's a few films that
Speaker 5: do that for me, and they're just like sometimes, yeah,
Speaker 5: to watch that film again is like you're strapping yourself
Speaker 5: in for the full journey because it'll happen every time.
Speaker 5: What are the ones that get you? Oh, Gallipoli is
Speaker 5: a big one. That's a definite What else.
Speaker 2: In the Name of the Father was one for me?
Speaker 2: Which Daniel d lewis about the Guild for four Ember
Speaker 2: seeing that in the cinema and that was around the
Speaker 2: same time as like JFK. There's a lot of those
Speaker 2: kind of like you know, Conspiracy Injustice kind of films
Speaker 2: and that, Yeah, the idea of forms and the dad
Speaker 2: kind of you know, innocent dad and that, that and that.
Speaker 2: Whenever I see that and they get released at the end,
Speaker 2: I still get kind of I may not tear up anymore,
Speaker 2: but I get chills.
Speaker 5: Yeah, is it Philomina? Yes, Oh, yes, yes, when the
Speaker 5: car drives away at the very very beginning, when when
Speaker 5: she has to and she just looks out the window.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh I watched that Hungover and Hobart. That
Speaker 5: was a mistake. Anyway, I was in pieces this tiny
Speaker 5: art cinema. I was the only person under sixty five.
Speaker 5: Sorry whisky. Last night I was at some cool brewery.
Speaker 1: That's a hard man some TV, the one who's always
Speaker 1: going about being hard. He's crying during filomena.
Speaker 5: But yeah, often similar themes too. They're often like war
Speaker 5: films where like young men who don't know how brave
Speaker 5: they're being, you know, anything to do with children, there's
Speaker 5: all these triggers, you know. Or injustice is another big one. Yeah,
Speaker 5: people being dealton injustice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, since you've had kids seven and four, yep, are
Speaker 2: you more emotional?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, definitely, Yeah, definitely. And it's like I actually
Speaker 5: remember watching films before I had kids, and often you'd
Speaker 5: be watching just some action film and action film is
Speaker 5: actually really good example, some action film, and then like
Speaker 5: you'd meet the wife and I'm like, I don't give
Speaker 5: a shit about the wife. Oh they're divorced and they're
Speaker 5: in a rocky relationship, and I'll just have to go, oh,
Speaker 5: I get it. This is the this is the emotional
Speaker 5: hook for the rest of everyone else who watches this
Speaker 5: film to get you through to the end, and they'll
Speaker 5: resolve their relationship and the kids will be happy they're
Speaker 5: back together again. Like I just have to take it
Speaker 5: on face value. I just see it for the cliche
Speaker 5: that it was. But now it's just I just buy
Speaker 5: into it straight in. Every time father's you know, got
Speaker 5: restricted access to his children. Oh what a tragedy mention
Speaker 5: that it doesn't matter that it's you know, Matthew McConaughey,
Speaker 5: and he's trying to like I'm just like, oh, what
Speaker 5: a poor blafe doesn't get to see his son on
Speaker 5: the weekends.
Speaker 2: I remember crying, like I hope you win, buddy. I
Speaker 2: remember sobbing during the film. But I'm sure this will
Speaker 2: come up quite a few times with this podcast. But
Speaker 2: I cried and my wife cried during a film starring
Speaker 2: the Rock And it was this is even before he
Speaker 2: was making good films, you know, like it was I
Speaker 2: think it was standing tall or walking tall, but I
Speaker 2: think it was because his son had very obvious reason
Speaker 2: why we cried, because his son had a thing an
Speaker 2: anoplactic reaction, and our son is anaphalactic. So it just
Speaker 2: was it just really hit home and we were in
Speaker 2: a cinema, I think Brisbane, and we were just balling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's sort of like something you're dealing with
Speaker 5: every day, and they're just right out a note when
Speaker 5: you're probably were when you're least expected to. It's just
Speaker 5: like it's just like this needle just coming out of nowhere,
Speaker 5: right through the heart.
Speaker 2: When you're watching a film, do you are you somebody
Speaker 2: who you keep a busy mind?
Speaker 1: Are you trying to get ahead of the plot.
Speaker 2: I'm more of a like, let the filmmaker, oh, release
Speaker 2: his information as he wants to.
Speaker 5: I am the I give myself over to the film totally.
Speaker 5: So I turn the phone off quite off, not airline
Speaker 5: made usually the whole way, just turn it off so
Speaker 5: it's completely dead. And yeah, I'm just ready to completely
Speaker 5: give into the film. If I'm watching a film on
Speaker 5: my own, I'll do that during the ads, probably, yeah,
Speaker 5: during the ads, and then I'll even watch all the
Speaker 5: previews and just soak them in and I just enjoy
Speaker 5: I enjoy that moment of transference when you are no
Speaker 5: longer aware that you are sitting in a cinema, and
Speaker 5: it's always hard to pinpoints about twenty minutes in, I think, yeah,
Speaker 5: when suddenly you are immersed. So that's what I'm going for,
Speaker 5: is immersion. So and the other thing is it's open.
Speaker 5: This is always a pet hate, you know, when you're
Speaker 5: sitting next to someone who's got ants in their pants
Speaker 5: or something where they can't or you can tell they're
Speaker 5: not liking it, or they're just they're sort of twisting
Speaker 5: in their seat. When I see a film and I
Speaker 5: don't know what's going to happen, and I don't get
Speaker 5: why the director is doing what he is doing, that
Speaker 5: for me is heaven. It's worse to be sitting and
Speaker 5: watching a film knowing where it's going to go or
Speaker 5: it's predictable. I love. I mean, a favorite of mine
Speaker 5: is is it I'm going to get his name Paul
Speaker 5: Thomas Anderson. That is right, yeah, yeah, and he because
Speaker 5: you just never quite know who the good person or
Speaker 5: the bad person is, or when the scene's going to end,
Speaker 5: or which way the camera's going to go, and all
Speaker 5: that stuff. I love. So I always just give into
Speaker 5: the film and and you know, worst case scenario, you're
Speaker 5: transported to another to some other place that's mildly entertaining.
Speaker 5: Best case scenario, you find something new.
Speaker 2: Subcontally, you think you know where it's going, and then
Speaker 2: it just side swipes you. Magnola is a great example
Speaker 2: of that with Port Thomas Anderson with the frogs. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, at the end, you're gonna got what the
Speaker 2: fuck are these frogs about? And I still don't know exactly,
Speaker 2: Like I don't think portam Anderson's ever gonna really revealed
Speaker 2: what's with the frogs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but it's it's great because.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like that before, and there's probably
Speaker 2: some explanation for it. You know, if you're to sit
Speaker 2: down and pick a film for a night, do you
Speaker 2: gravitate towards watching a comedy or would you prefer to
Speaker 2: sit down and watch a drama?
Speaker 5: It's always drama. I yeah, I mean it's kind of boring,
Speaker 5: but yeah, the older I get real stories. If it's
Speaker 5: based on a true story, probably even better. I find
Speaker 5: it's almost like my imagination's clapped out. You know, when
Speaker 5: you're a teenager or a kid, you know sci fi
Speaker 5: and all that, it's just sort of fantastic. It's I
Speaker 5: went and saw I Saw a Man of Steel when
Speaker 5: it came out, the Souperman film with Henry cavill I
Speaker 5: think I'm not as a while ago now anyway, and
Speaker 5: I was really really excited about it because there'd been
Speaker 5: The Misfire in two thousand and five and Soupman was
Speaker 5: one of my favorite films growing up as a kid,
Speaker 5: and so I absolutely loved it. Used to used to
Speaker 5: just wear out the VHS with that one. On a
Speaker 5: Sunday afternoon, we had a showdown with like Superman and
Speaker 5: the three Yes, the three bad dudes.
Speaker 1: One We're being a lady. But it was just so
Speaker 1: so cool and so.
Speaker 5: But also the connection to me was huge. It was
Speaker 5: like it's set in Kansas, in the middle of like
Speaker 5: wheat fields. That's where I grew up, right, And then
Speaker 5: in two thousand and five, Kansas where I grew up
Speaker 5: doubled for they it was shot there was shot where
Speaker 5: I grew up, the Liverpool Plains that's doubled as the
Speaker 5: barn is still out there in the two thousand and
Speaker 5: five version with Kevin Spacey and whoever else was in it,
Speaker 5: and they shot it out there. So when that one
Speaker 5: came out, I'm like, oh my god, what are coming
Speaker 5: together of things? They've shot Soupman where I grew up.
Speaker 5: This is just a childhood explosions ale of life, the
Speaker 5: circle of Life. And anyway, I saw it and it
Speaker 5: was a very disappointing film, and I was quite I
Speaker 5: was a bit traumatized by it. Also, like you know Metropolis,
Speaker 5: when they cruise around it was clearly George Street and stuff.
Speaker 5: I could just tell it was Sydney. It kind of
Speaker 5: really ruined the film for me. Anyway. So then when
Speaker 5: Man of Steel came out, I was very excited because
Speaker 5: it was it had the hype of the Nolan brothers
Speaker 5: had written the script. Yeah, it was going to be
Speaker 5: the dark Night version of Superman, and there's a lot
Speaker 5: going on, and Henry Cavill was kind of a good
Speaker 5: kind of look like a good fit. And I watched
Speaker 5: it and I was kind of enjoying it. And I
Speaker 5: was halfway through and I found myself getting annoyed with
Speaker 5: a teenager was with his dad and asking too many
Speaker 5: questions like and I was sort of making a bit
Speaker 5: too much noise and was giving me the shits in
Speaker 5: the cinema in Perth, and I was looking at it
Speaker 5: and then I thought, I'm kind of missing the point
Speaker 5: here because they're having fun and it's a superhero film.
Speaker 5: That's whole point. And I realized when I got out
Speaker 5: of the film the reason why I was disappointed was
Speaker 5: I was wanting that punch the sky moment that I
Speaker 5: had had as a kid watching Superman the first time
Speaker 5: he goes and he flies out into Metropolis and he
Speaker 5: solves crime and he does it and you just you
Speaker 5: get that feeling you go get him Superman, and I
Speaker 5: was looking for that moment, and then I realized I'm
Speaker 5: not getting that moment because I'm a middle aged man.
Speaker 5: Yeah what am I doing? So since that day, I
Speaker 5: pretty much never watched another Superhero film because I'm just like,
Speaker 5: I hear people talking about the Avengers and I just
Speaker 5: don't care. I finally realized, I just don't really care
Speaker 5: about it, Like I don't have the buy in.
Speaker 2: Which film have you watched with the kids that you've
Speaker 2: kind of gone, I really want you to watch this film,
Speaker 2: and this is you know, like, have you set them
Speaker 2: down and they old enough to yes, set sound of music.
Speaker 7: Cream colored poonies and crisp apples, stoodles, doorbells and sleeve
Speaker 7: bells and schnitzle with noodles, while He's the fly with
Speaker 7: the Moon on their wings. These are a few of
Speaker 7: my favorite things.
Speaker 5: Sound of music and it's three hours long and they
Speaker 5: were glued to the whole thing and it was impressive.
Speaker 5: It was really impressive. When I saw the running time
Speaker 5: three hours, I thought they're gonna drift. I mean, how
Speaker 5: are they gonna stay focused on a three hour film?
Speaker 5: But it's such a beautifully made film and the song
Speaker 5: are absolutely amazing that they were just glued and they
Speaker 5: just you know, they just sort of and r at
Speaker 5: the right bits and they think Gretel's cue and you know,
Speaker 5: it just all works out beautifully.
Speaker 2: Santa Music was like a massive in our house growing up,
Speaker 2: Like and this is going back to VHS tapes and
Speaker 2: you know, like what you had, you just kept on watching.
Speaker 2: So we had Santa Music on tape, probably recorded off
Speaker 2: the TV, and just watched it time in and time out.
Speaker 1: Did your kids pick up the.
Speaker 5: Face passed them by? I don't think they know that
Speaker 5: word yet, So yeah.
Speaker 1: That's good parenting. Is a good parenting.
Speaker 2: So before we wrap up, circling back to your your
Speaker 2: favorite films. Yes, you mentioned two thousand and one Apocalypse
Speaker 2: now yep. And the third one.
Speaker 5: Was Wake in Fright, the Australian films that was re
Speaker 5: released years ago.
Speaker 1: So what are those films? What are those films mean
Speaker 1: to you?
Speaker 5: Well, two thousand and one of Space I see for
Speaker 5: me is classic immersion in that when I would see
Speaker 5: that at the cinema, like when it all first starts
Speaker 5: to take off and they're floating in space. I remember
Speaker 5: the first time I saw that at the cinema. I
Speaker 5: didn't know how Kubrick had actually made it. I didn't,
Speaker 5: I couldn't, and I'd already seen Star Wars. I think
Speaker 5: i'd seen Return of the Jedi Empire strikes Back by then,
Speaker 5: and I'm watching a film made before all of them,
Speaker 5: and I think the stewardess on the space station, she
Speaker 5: walks in a complete circle and then goes out through
Speaker 5: another door. And I thought I didn't have the wherewithal
Speaker 5: in my head to think, oh, the entire set must rotate,
Speaker 5: And I think one of the astronauts jogs around the
Speaker 5: outside of a building and I know, now the set rotates,
Speaker 5: and they rotated the set and the cameras moved with
Speaker 5: it to make it look like Centripetal Force was working
Speaker 5: in the space. Anyway's mind blowing, So that really throws
Speaker 5: you off early. But the result of that is by
Speaker 5: the end of the film, when it gets really strange
Speaker 5: and a lot of people get off the bus, they
Speaker 5: can't go handle it. They think it's probably too weird
Speaker 5: by then, by the time you get to the end
Speaker 5: of the film, for me, I was, in my mind,
Speaker 5: I'm way past Jupiter. I'm not even on Earth anymore,
Speaker 5: like in my mind. So just that feeling of like
Speaker 5: completely being lost in a film, and then and then
Speaker 5: it finishes, and then you walk out and you're, you know,
Speaker 5: outside the uphum in Mossman, you know, looking at traffic.
Speaker 5: You're like, what was that about? So that's that one
Speaker 5: Apocalypse now for me was again it's got a similar
Speaker 5: odyssey feel to it, and a bit of a feeling
Speaker 5: of you know, well going up the river, you know,
Speaker 5: and and you know, it's like a journey into the
Speaker 5: mind as well. And I remember again the further they
Speaker 5: got up the river, just this impending feeling of psychological doom.
Speaker 5: When I watched it as a teenager was just too
Speaker 5: much for me, and it got to the point when
Speaker 5: I was watching and I had to pause it and
Speaker 5: get my mate over because I was just so frightened
Speaker 5: by this film, and we watched it again together. So
Speaker 5: we watched it. I watched it two times in a
Speaker 5: row because I couldn't handle it, and then I was
Speaker 5: obsessed by it because it just just messed with my head.
Speaker 5: And then wake in fright again. Probably another probably got
Speaker 5: another similar thing. It's also a bit of a descent
Speaker 5: into madness as well. But I like it for different reasons.
Speaker 5: I only watched it recently for the first time a
Speaker 5: couple of years ago, and I just like it because
Speaker 5: it's just such an unflattering rendering of regional Australia. It's
Speaker 5: the antidote to Crocodile dundeine I love. I mean, I
Speaker 5: love Crocodile Dundee and the cheeky smile and the Alarican spirit.
Speaker 5: But I also just love the naked, horrible alcoholism and
Speaker 5: racism of the Australian bush and just seeing it unvarnished.
Speaker 5: I find it horrific and kind of funny at the
Speaker 5: same time.
Speaker 2: Do you do.
Speaker 1: I quite like the remake as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't seen the remake.
Speaker 1: Actually, it was really well done.
Speaker 5: The TV series.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a two part Yeah, it's like a
Speaker 2: mini series. Yeah, but I should watch it. I thought
Speaker 2: that was that was great. Finally, congratulations on the Gold logan.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Obviously the tears because it was in the front row,
Speaker 2: but you close.
Speaker 5: Actually I was. I promised myself I wouldn't cry. Yeah,
Speaker 5: actually because because I was a little bit worried that
Speaker 5: because I know i've I've kind of since learned that
Speaker 5: the reason why a lot of people cried awards ceremonies
Speaker 5: is probably because of the spike and adrenaline is probably
Speaker 5: a big part of it. It's not necessarily, Yeah, part
Speaker 5: of it is probably fight or flight response, because I
Speaker 5: felt a bit of that on the night off because
Speaker 5: I was I did think. My first thought was, oh shit,
Speaker 5: I've got to speak because I was thinking I wasn't
Speaker 5: going to win. I thought Costa was going to win.
Speaker 1: That is the uh.
Speaker 2: Whenever I've been nominated for something, and I was nominated
Speaker 2: once with a Gold log a few years ago. Didn't
Speaker 2: bring home the chocolates like you good self did. But
Speaker 2: that's the strangest thing about the whole night, not knowing
Speaker 2: you were sitting at a table room full of industry. Well,
Speaker 2: I was certain I wasn't going to win. Yes, that's
Speaker 2: where I was. So you had, you know, clocked a
Speaker 2: couple of pinos. Yeah, nothing too tricky, nothing too tricky.
Speaker 5: There nothing I couldn't get around.
Speaker 2: And then but not knowing whether you in thirty seconds time,
Speaker 2: ten seconds on five seconds song you were going to
Speaker 2: have to stand up and walk to a stage and
Speaker 2: either and give a speech that there's some expectation that's going.
Speaker 1: To be funny.
Speaker 2: Well it was also kind of had a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff kind of you know, come back clocked into it,
Speaker 2: a few arm truths in the mix, or that you
Speaker 2: were going to sit down and nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I can only the
Speaker 5: way I can confirm that I was certain I wasn't
Speaker 5: going to win was in the cutaway shot. I pretended
Speaker 5: I was asleep, and you know, you know me and
Speaker 5: you know comedians like in my mind, I'm when I'm
Speaker 5: on camera, when someone's filming me, I'm going to do something,
Speaker 5: because I'm going to try to do something and a tanny.
Speaker 5: You were the same I saw you when I watched
Speaker 5: the speech back. I saw you like drinking with me,
Speaker 5: and it was funny. You're going to do something. You
Speaker 5: got the cameras on you. You got to do something that
Speaker 5: was so funny. So I pretended I was asleep because
Speaker 5: I because I thought that was it. I thought that
Speaker 5: was the last moment being on camera, so I might
Speaker 5: as well do something with it. I'll pretend I'm asleep
Speaker 5: and that'll be funny. And then I was getting ready
Speaker 5: to clap cost her. Yeah, when he won goal.
Speaker 2: That's what I was ready to do because I only
Speaker 2: watched it back, probably two months after the night, and
Speaker 2: because people said, oh, your cutaway view was really funny,
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, because i'd seen there was
Speaker 2: a reaction to.
Speaker 1: I think it must have been a manda.
Speaker 2: They cut away to it, and there was a reaction
Speaker 2: to that, and then you did another joke.
Speaker 5: I feel like she got short shrift. I think they
Speaker 5: kind of caught her just when she was concentrating.
Speaker 2: It's it's almost the Milania Trump and Justin Trudeau. It's
Speaker 2: actually if you freeze something at the right moment, or
Speaker 2: you catch somebody. But in the same way. I think
Speaker 2: people thought that I was almost like rolling my eyes
Speaker 2: or kind of going. A few people thought I was going,
Speaker 2: and I was just like taking a drink, and I
Speaker 2: was actually looking because where I was looking was actually
Speaker 2: where the screen was, and I thought they were going
Speaker 2: to maybe get a cut away with somebody else who
Speaker 2: you're talking about, I think Grant, and so I was
Speaker 2: just like looking there and then I saw.
Speaker 1: Myself on the screen.
Speaker 2: It played very well, and the yes congratulations hard quiz
Speaker 2: goes from strength to strength. As a final question, who
Speaker 2: would you love if you had your pick? Let's open
Speaker 2: it up yep, worldwide.
Speaker 5: Yes.
Speaker 2: Even keeping with the movie theme, who would you love
Speaker 2: to sit down with on hard Chat?
Speaker 5: It's easy? Russell Crowe?
Speaker 1: Oh really, well, that's an achievable one. Sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna try to. I know Charlie Pickering is
Speaker 5: in contact with him, so I'm going to try to
Speaker 5: get him to get Russell Crowe for the Yearly, which
Speaker 5: is our end of year special. That would be great.
Speaker 5: And I think I reckon with Russell. He's a tricky
Speaker 5: one because I reckon he I'm a massive fan of
Speaker 5: Russell Crowe, and I think once he knows that. I
Speaker 5: think he'll be more likely to want to do it
Speaker 5: because he'll realize that it's fun. I don't like. I
Speaker 5: don't I don't have any But this is also why
Speaker 5: I reckon hard chat works. I don't have a problem
Speaker 5: with anyone that's actually yes, that's why I feel like
Speaker 5: it works. I actually genuinely, you know, I have no malice.
Speaker 5: I don't really care. Yeah, which is why I can
Speaker 5: do it. So I think Russell Crowe would be fantastic
Speaker 5: stick for several reasons. He's a massive star. I like
Speaker 5: his work, but also I mean, well he's an actor.
Speaker 5: He'd be very intimidating. And also he might just bury
Speaker 5: himself in the role of Russell Crowe and then next
Speaker 5: thing I know, I'm doing a I start by doing
Speaker 5: a comedy scene with Russell Crowe, but by the end
Speaker 5: of it, I'm like, I'm caught in some weird actors reality.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what's going to happen, but
Speaker 5: it would be a thrill to just try to spar
Speaker 5: with him.
Speaker 4: Why are you not entertain why you're not attained?
Speaker 2: Well, it's been a pleasure sitting down with you to
Speaker 2: discuss Lion King and all other matters, and thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 1: Tommy Gleeson on You Ain't Seen Nothing.
Speaker 5: Yet a Kerne Matada. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's a wrap on episode one of You Ain't Seen
Speaker 2: Nothing Yet. Great to have my mate Tom Gleeson up
Speaker 2: for the first episode and he really enjoyed watching the
Speaker 2: Lion King and chatting about it. Jonathan Taylor Thomas was
Speaker 2: the guy I was trying to think of during that episode.
Speaker 2: He wasn't from Full House of Growing Pains. He was
Speaker 2: from Home Improvement. Apologies for screaming at their phones and
Speaker 2: we're having that discussion, and.
Speaker 1: Apologies to mister Taylor Thomas. If you're listening, I would
Speaker 1: love you.
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Speaker 2: if you've listened to this point, you know there are
Speaker 2: spoilers involved. I want to thank a few people. Man
Speaker 2: sitting alongside me Derek mais podcast manager. I met Derek
Speaker 2: during our junior football games. Will both umpire escortse Yes,
Speaker 2: that's where life has become. You need adults to escort
Speaker 2: the umpire safely off and under ten's football match.
Speaker 1: But that's where we met kids.
Speaker 2: You're playing for rival teams and we've got chatting and
Speaker 2: he told me he basically is running podcasts out of
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Speaker 2: a great space if you're looking to record podcasts. Derek
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Speaker 1: Get on that.
Speaker 2: Also, good friends Tom Witty and Jimmy Saunders. They did
Speaker 2: the production music the score for the show for you
Speaker 2: ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 1: They are great dudes.
Speaker 2: I've known Tom and Jimmy for years now they're both
Speaker 2: Jimmy still involved with the project.
Speaker 1: Tom was a big part of the project for many years.
Speaker 2: They run also a company called Circus Tree Sounds Circus
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Speaker 2: podcasts as well. Get on them a Circus Tree Sounds
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Speaker 1: They are amazing.
Speaker 2: Tom Wilson does a great podcast called Time to Die,
Speaker 2: where comedians write the worst three minutes they can think
Speaker 2: of and challenge another comedian to perform that three minutes
Speaker 2: in front of a live crowd.
Speaker 1: It is hilarious.
Speaker 2: Sadly he's only three episodes because the coronavirus hit before
Speaker 2: they were able to do more. But so getting on
Speaker 2: the ground floor Time to Die podcast is an absolute ripper.
Speaker 2: I want to thank sponsor Dan Murphy's.
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Speaker 2: I know some people get a bit up at you
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Speaker 2: Dan's coming on because during this time, it's a tricky
Speaker 2: time for artists everywhere. So Dan's coming on board means
Speaker 2: that I can actually pay not only the people who
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Speaker 2: you can support them, and yeah, I really want to
Speaker 2: thank them for coming on. And it's all true. I
Speaker 2: did actually work there. It was my last real job
Speaker 2: before leaving off the do stand up comedy and they
Speaker 2: were very supportive of me when I was doing a
Speaker 2: stand up So yeah, a big thanks to the Dan's
Speaker 2: next episode is Sam Pang, star of Have You Been
Speaker 2: Paying Attention? And No but Breakfast Show the Front Bar.
Speaker 2: This is amazing. I asked Sam which movie he hadn't seen.
Speaker 2: He told me he had never seen The Castle, the
Speaker 2: classic Australian comedy that I thought every Australian had seen.
Speaker 2: It turns out Sam Pang hasn't seen it, which is
Speaker 2: amazing because he actually works for the people who made it,
Speaker 2: Working Dog, the people behind Have You Been Paying Attention?
Speaker 2: He hasn't actually seen their movie. It's astonishing. It's a
Speaker 2: great chat. I can't wait for you to listen to
Speaker 2: the next episode of You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet with
Speaker 2: Sampang The Castle.
Speaker 5: And so we leave old Pete safe and Souf and
Speaker 5: to our friends of the radio audience, we've been a
Speaker 5: pleasant good night