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Speaker 2: Good morning to you all right, Good morning Katie, and

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Speaker 1: How cold is it in Alice Springs? Were you coming

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Speaker 2: Ah? It is freezing. I think it got down to

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Speaker 1: But to get yourself a jumper, mate, I do have one,

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Speaker 3: What are you up to? Why are you there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, Katie, as we know, it's that time of

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Speaker 2: And some of the things I'm hearing is quite concerning.

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Speaker 2: Safer under this new government, and they felt like they've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll certainly try and find out. I know that

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Speaker 1: You know, you and I are just talking about running

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a difference, Katie. Their whole election platform

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Speaker 3: I thought it started at fifteen point five.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've been told that it was at five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: I'll try and find out.

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Speaker 2: I'll find that.

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Speaker 3: So we'll find out.

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Speaker 3: Of the park.

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Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of gamber grass within.

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Speaker 4: That area, and how we restrict.

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Speaker 3: Duran Young. Always good to catch up with you mate.

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Speaker 1: I hope you can warm up a little bit in

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