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Speaker 1: I entertainment, put on your dance and shift.

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Speaker 2: Don't give me your best shot.

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Speaker 3: With everything we need.

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Speaker 2: To know in entertainment, particularly about Hall Notes, we go

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Speaker 2: straight to Emma Gillespie from The Daily OS.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Hi Hall and Oates turns Hall versus Oats.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the more bizarre ones.

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Speaker 3: This is disappointing. I'm a big fan of Hall and Notes.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean they sold the most records of any

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Speaker 4: duo in history ever, which I didn't know, eight platinum albums,

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Speaker 4: six number ones.

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Speaker 1: But there is trouble in paradise because Daryl Hall has

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Speaker 1: filed a lawsuit and a restraining order against Mate or Notes.

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Speaker 1: So this one is kind of twofold.

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Speaker 4: You've got like the legal thing that's happening with the

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Speaker 4: something to do with their sort of creative licensing. So

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Speaker 4: they've got their catalog and apparently Oats is trying to

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Speaker 4: sell his share and Hall is trying to stop him

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Speaker 4: from doing that.

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Speaker 3: Which they co wrote the songs, did they So they

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Speaker 3: both own the stuff?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is kind of unique for a duo. Normally

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Speaker 4: you've got like the one creative lead. But they are

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Speaker 4: very fifty to fifty in what they've made together. So

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Speaker 4: Hall is saying that he wants to sell this stuff. No, sorry,

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Speaker 4: Oates is saying he wants to sell the licensing. Hall

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Speaker 4: is saying you can't. And then that's the language the legal.

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Speaker 1: That's so like him.

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Speaker 4: Then we've got the restraining order, and no one really

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Speaker 4: knows what the restraining order is all about.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are in their mid late seventies.

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Speaker 3: So they performed together just recently.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've to it on and off like consistently since

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Speaker 4: the seventies. They've had hiatuses and long periods of sort

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Speaker 4: of not performing together, but they've.

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Speaker 1: Never really busted up. There's some tension there.

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Speaker 4: There was an interview a couple of years ago where

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Speaker 4: Hall sort of said that they weren't really partners. They

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Speaker 4: haven't been creatively aligned since the seventies, So I don't

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Speaker 4: think they're friends, but you know, colleagues who see to

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Speaker 4: have made it work for long enough.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a little bit sad.

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Speaker 2: It's hard being the creative and the driving force of

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Speaker 2: a duo.

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Speaker 1: Yes, where's this going?

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering the same.

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Speaker 2: Thing I find me. I am the Hall to this show.

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Speaker 3: You know, we've had this discussion before when I had

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Speaker 3: a day off with COVID. Now I worked from home,

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Speaker 3: but that's right, I had COVID, had one day off

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Speaker 3: and the next day Jonesy tried to do the show

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Speaker 3: on his own.

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Speaker 2: Try it. There was no try, right, But I did

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Speaker 2: the show on my.

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Speaker 3: But the next day you said this the show was

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Speaker 3: lacking out. Let's not argue as to who we are.

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Speaker 2: I'm so you've just deluded. I'm too un Obviously COVID

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Speaker 2: has got to your brain and that's the fog.

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Speaker 4: He claimed he'd be Hall, Well, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: you'd want to be Hall in this situation, because he

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Speaker 4: sounds like a bit of a creative force.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't sound very nice.

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Speaker 3: Didn't he on the Weekend or something before, a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of songs on his own?

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Speaker 4: Yes, So the rumors are that this all has to

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Speaker 4: do with Oats playing Hall and Oats songs on his

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Speaker 4: own in shows. But on the Weekend Oats played heaps

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Speaker 4: of them in Sorry Yes.

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Speaker 3: The one with the big lioning hair like a paddle

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Speaker 3: pop line.

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Speaker 2: And little Girl with the marcah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so you've got big hair and mo That's how

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Speaker 4: I've been remembering them, and I was trying to think,

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Speaker 4: how do I explain this in terms of like the partnership,

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Speaker 4: And I was like, well, if Jonesy and Amanda had

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Speaker 4: you had all of your catalog of all of your

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Speaker 4: intellectual property, all your shows and hilarity and high jinks,

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Speaker 4: and one of you said, I want to sell that

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Speaker 4: for a mozza, and the other one was like, well, no,

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Speaker 4: we've got to hang on to it because maybe it'll

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Speaker 4: be worth more one day, or someone somewhere is streaming

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Speaker 4: it and we're making money all.

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Speaker 2: That because you've got to look at the assets. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so all my catchphrases would be am I sayings their

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Speaker 2: their mind. You can keep all your pun humor.

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Speaker 1: Feel free to.

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Speaker 3: Tell your catchphrases aren't yours catchpraising You've stolen them?

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Speaker 2: No, No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: And the first time I've heard the word intellectual used

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Speaker 3: in the phrase with either of us. This is a

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Speaker 3: big shame. This is a big shame because Hall of Notes,

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Speaker 3: I'm into mych rock in a big way. I'm bi

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Speaker 3: big fans. Yeah, I'm big fans. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 3: of these two, and I'm disappointed to hear that it's

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Speaker 3: going to win badly.

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Speaker 4: Well. Especially the music is very cheery, even like the

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Speaker 4: lingering kind of sadder stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's very upbeat.

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Speaker 4: I've got a few Hall of Notes songs in the

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Speaker 4: Office playlist, and perhaps their beat gets into it. But

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Speaker 4: it's not really a surprise because Hall said years ago,

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Speaker 4: he did an interview in twenty twenty one, he said,

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Speaker 4: never sell you're publishing. Maybe if you're eighty years old

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Speaker 4: and you decide to retire then, but even then I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't suggest it. I don't believe in that concept. It's

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Speaker 4: all that you have. And this happened to Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 4: Her record management Scooter Braun. He sold her back catalog,

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Speaker 4: she lost all of that, and then exactly famously, she's

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Speaker 4: re recorded it. It's kind of worked out because she's

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Speaker 4: made double the money, double the.

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Speaker 2: Records, re record all our show for two thousand and

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Speaker 2: five now.

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Speaker 3: But when they say about Hall of Notes, though, they said, well,

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Speaker 3: when you get close to waiting, they're getting close to eighty.

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Speaker 4: They are, so maybe Oats has been waiting to get

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Speaker 4: close enough to eighty. He's got that quote framed above

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Speaker 4: the mantle, and he's thinking, my time, show me the money.

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Speaker 3: Oh, fellas, get it together. The world needs Hall of Oats.

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Speaker 2: The world does, but it's hard being whole.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you, okay, whatever conversation to you. So it's

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: All is a captain of industry rules.

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Speaker 3: The waker, then they.

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Speaker 1: Is a victim. Thank you, Emma, thank you for bringing

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Speaker 1: this up.