1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so the title of today's podcast is I'll never 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: forget about the day Dot Dot Dot. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Became a man. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: And yeah, we were going to do the text message 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: thing from last week. I just yeah, I feel like 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: we covered a lot of ground there. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: Let's just be honest. 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: We both couldn't be bothered with any prep it required 9 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 3: requires that question requires prep. 10 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 4: I think I think it took a lot. 11 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, come on, I can think of well. 12 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go back there, but I can 13 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: already think of three three. 14 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: Well, okay, one of us couldn't be bothered thinking that's me. 15 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: So we're doing a new card I'll never forget about 16 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: the day. Now, if you're watching this on YouTube, the 17 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: reason that I'm wearing. 18 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 4: My Oakley wrap around sunglasses because. 19 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: You're trying a new thing. You're trying a new look, 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: and I think I think it's half. 21 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 4: Not trying a new look. I'm not trying a new look. 22 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: This line so much on this podcast. 23 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 4: I've got I. 24 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: Get ocular migraines and the lights in here very bright, 25 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: so I'm trying to avoid that. 26 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 4: Now, nice good cover. It's something. 27 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: Come on, you should just embrace the new look that 28 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: you're going forwards, cocally, sunglasses inside. 29 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: We all love hitting the slopes. 30 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: It's not it's very it's a ski aesthetic. 31 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 4: I agree to. Let's get into the question. I'll never 32 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: forget about the day I. 33 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: Tried wears inside a look and it didn't work. 34 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: Now, it's very obvious one for me, which I don't 35 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: want to go down this path because I think it's 36 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: very obvious for everyone. 37 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: Don't. 38 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 4: Well, no, I think it's the first thing that comes 39 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 4: to mind is very obvious one, which is the birth 40 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 4: of my daughter. Oh yeah, yeah. 41 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't really want to go on that path because 42 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I think everyone's got a war story there and that 43 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: that's a hectic time. And I think there's a great 44 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: podcast called Australian Birth Stories, which I'd highly recommend that 45 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: you listen to if you want to get that that's awesome. 46 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: So that for me is probably a no in terms 47 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: of where. 48 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm going to go with this. Don't go there, I 49 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: don't think so did you can't say quickly on that, though, 50 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,919 Speaker 3: I member I need to talk. 51 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: About it more. I think there's this really fascinating thing 52 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: that's gone on. 53 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if Sam's got this as well, or 54 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: any any female actually who's listening to this? But and 55 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: I don't know whether this is like an evolutionary thing 56 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: that has. 57 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: Helped us move forward. 58 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: But it's like when I talked to mim, if ever 59 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: it comes up, she has forgotten a lot, yeah, and 60 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: and and forgotten a lot of the really hectic things, and. 61 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: Is the is the again? 62 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: I don't I'm just hypothesizing here, but because it was 63 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: funny we were talking about with we're having a brief 64 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: conversation around like baby number two stuff and just glancing. 65 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: A mere glance. 66 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: You were in the garden, she was in the kitchen. 67 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: We'll think about it, and that was the end. 68 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 3: But when we actually talked about like how we'd go 69 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: about the actual birth for number two, how do we. 70 00:02:58,639 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 4: Go about it? 71 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: We can have to and plans like what what, what 72 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: medication do you have? 73 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 4: Where do you do it? 74 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 2: Et cetera, et cetera. 75 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: And within that conversation I had that very stark realization 76 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: that I was like, you really have like blocked out 77 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: a lot of things that happened in that. 78 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: And that also might be Yes, I think there's definitely 79 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: a there's there's definitely a hormone that there is a 80 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: process there which women release when they give birth, which 81 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: stops them from remembering the most painful parts of birth. 82 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: That is a thing. That's definitely a thing fascinating. I 83 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: didn't know that. 84 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: But there's also there might also be like some self 85 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: protecting thing going on there, and she's like, I don't 86 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: want to think about that because there's a lot to 87 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: umpact there. Yeah, I could say exactly the same thing 88 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: for them. I reckon, if I'm being really honest, I 89 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: recon one of the reasons that we might be delaying 90 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: have another baby is because I reckon, there's still a 91 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: lot of stuff that she hasn't unpacked there. And she 92 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: said quite explicitly to me, I know that I haven't 93 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: unpacked that, and I'm not ready to unpack that just yet. 94 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: Totally fine. 95 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, with the midw've regings, we used that they had 96 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: like a service which is really cool, where jan the 97 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: head midwife, came to our house afterwards and was like, 98 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: you have like an open wound right now and you're 99 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: not addressing it, and I'm really sorry, but I'm going 100 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: to take you back there now and we're going to 101 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: talk about it. And I left the room and there 102 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: was a whole lot of tears and yeah, which good, 103 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: it's really important. 104 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: I had to have it. 105 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, we also had a code blue so 106 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: it was which Max wasn't breathing, So it was very 107 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: very intense for a long time. So yes, let's not 108 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: talk about that day. So but I'm glad you brought 109 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: that up because I think that is a really good 110 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: thing to talk about it and I think for a 111 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: lot of people, Yeah, a birth, the birth, it's funny 112 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: for a lot of people on there, forget about the 113 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: day birth my child so brilliant, but also birth a 114 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: child is you know, it can be really hectic for 115 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: a lot of people. So that's a good one to 116 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: cover off. It's a very broad question. I remember a 117 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: lot of days. I remember yesterday, I remember the day 118 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: before that. 119 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 120 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: Like this feels like a I feel like I need 121 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: a character to garize it, Like do we want like 122 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 3: a the happiest, I remember, the saddest, I remember the 123 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: most transformed, you know what I mean? Like I finding 124 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: it quite difficult to a few things are popping up 125 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: into the old nognog here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I 126 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: don't know which which which which which path, Yeah, to 127 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: skip down. 128 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: Which daughter nognog on. 129 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I there's one thing comes to mind for me, 130 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: which I think is very very funny. But I don't 131 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: know how much of the story I can tell that. 132 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm keen to kind of I'm keen to, yeah, 133 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: because I know you and I were both part of 134 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: this day. So we were in living and Perth, and 135 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: we we were I think we were about two months 136 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: into doing or three three months into doing this show. 137 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 4: Heidi will and Woody killing it, no doubt. Well, I 138 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 4: think that was the issue. 139 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: So I was probably I think I just turned twenty two, 140 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: you were twenty three. 141 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: We're really young, very very young, and probably young, let's 142 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 4: be honest. 143 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: And they all of a sudden we're like, hey, look 144 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: here's a whole bunch. 145 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 4: Of money to go and do a radio show. 146 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: And you and I were like, great, we're young, and 147 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: you're about to give us a whole bunch of money 148 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: to do something fun. And it didn't feel like like 149 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: we had other priorities at that age. Largely a whole 150 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: bunch of our friends had moved over to Perth. It 151 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: was the mining boom, and that was getting really fucked up. 152 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: On the weekends and for. 153 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 5: Yourself, so so so we moved over there. 154 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: And I don't know why. 155 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: This day sticks out for me so much, but it 156 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: is a pretty funny. It was just hilarious that we 157 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: were in that situation and which day careful. Heidi, who 158 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: we're doing the show with, was ten years at least 159 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: ten years older than us, and like, this was it, 160 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: This is it, this is a big break and for 161 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: us it was like, yeah, well we're really young, this 162 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: is the beginning of something for us, sure, but also 163 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: there's plenty of years left in the tank and we're 164 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: happy being boys. 165 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: I don't think that was a conscious thought though, Shit, no, 166 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: I think I think what was interesting is I think subconsciously, 167 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: I think we the way we approached the radio show 168 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: was and we actually I were a lot to hide 169 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: in the way that she went about it, but she 170 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: was trying to do a very different show to us. 171 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: We were very much of the school. It needs to 172 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: be loose, it needs to be fun. And I don't 173 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: want to talk about anything serious ever. Yeah, and vulnerability 174 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: twenty three year old me, absolutely not And I don't 175 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: care for it. 176 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: Not interested in it yet. Yeah, I would rather. 177 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: Talk I'm going to talk about funny stuff. 178 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: And I think that and we worshiped comedy like that 179 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: was kind of our Yeah, yeah, if people were doing 180 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: something funny, it was like those people are our heroes. Really, 181 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: it was like sports people and comedians. 182 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: And I think as. 183 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: Well with that, like I think we also worshiped and 184 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: idolized people even within comedy or even sport that looks 185 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: like they weren't even working. That it wasn't cool to 186 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 3: work hard, right, you know, You've got to be out 187 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: on the weekend going like partying and then you rock 188 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: up and you're still very good at what you do. 189 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: And I think Hardy was at a point where she 190 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: was like, that's not actually how it works, you do. 191 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 4: It was really unfair to it. 192 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: It was really unfair on her in that regard, and 193 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: years later you put yourself in her shoes and you're like, 194 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm amazed that she's stuck at it. 195 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: Really, But. 196 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: It got to the point where clearly the network had 197 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: cottoned onto the fact that we were sleeping for somewhere 198 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: between two and four hours between Friday and Sunday, and 199 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: we were rocking up to work and we were like, 200 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: in the words of the guy, the boss that flew 201 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: over at the time, I can say his name, Craig Bruce. 202 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: He flew over and he was like, boys, your Thursday 203 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: Friday shows are amazed, because we. 204 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: Were in about for the weekend when your weekend was amazing. 205 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: Your Monday to Wednesdays shows a dog mate. Yeah, And 206 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: then he was like I'm pretty sure he says something 207 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: like I didn't come down in the last shower. You're 208 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: clearly sending it over the weekend, and you cooked like 209 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. 210 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: I think I tried to say when the first time 211 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: I brought it up, I was like, I. 212 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 3: Mean Fridays, yeah, yeah, but then just two days of 213 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: pretty solid. 214 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 5: Recovery, it was just like shut up, just just shut up. 215 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and again like we're a very new show. They've 216 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: just blooded us. They put all this money into the advertising, 217 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: they're paying us a lot of money, and it was 218 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: this like they were furious, like actually furious, clearly heart 219 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: he was really upset, and. 220 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: I said, you telling this story while we're in Oakley 221 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: Sunglasses and it's like it's like if you're trying to 222 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: convince people that you're through those days, it's not working. 223 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 4: It's not working. 224 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: That was old me. That was old me. 225 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: So anyway, they drags into this meeting and it was 226 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: early in the week that week, and we were pretty 227 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: close to nowhere and fatigued, fatigued, and I remember we 228 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:15,239 Speaker 1: was sitting in the meeting room and and I got lined. 229 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: Up by Craig, Craig got Todd, well maybe both. 230 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: I think it was a double team. 231 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, get We got double teamed by Craig Brest 232 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: and Todd Campbell. 233 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 3: Nice like at list tick and they said were going 234 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: hard at you, they were going real hard. 235 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: The yeah, the blowtorch came at me, largely because I'm 236 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: pretty sure I said three words on air that day. 237 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think. I think. 238 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: I mean because I'm my energy is often at like 239 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: a fifteen. I think when I if I was fatigued 240 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: or I had a big weekend, my fifteen went down 241 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: to like a seven, whereas you. So if your natural 242 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: temperament and energy is at a seven, which which really 243 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: works when I'm too high and you're at a seven, yeah, 244 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: but if you all seven went down to a one, 245 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: one and a half two, yeah. 246 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: Zero sparge portions of the radio show staring out the window. 247 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: I remember that that was. 248 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 4: That was tough. 249 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: Looking over Subiaco, not looking at Heidi while she was talking, 250 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: that was that was. 251 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: That was tough. Oh my god. 252 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: And then I remember I remember having moments where I 253 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: was like tapping Heidi, being like talk to me, like, 254 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 3: you've got just tell me this. Sorry, don't worry about him, 255 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: tell me you've got me. 256 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: Oh man, So I do. Yeah. I regret that a lot. 257 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 4: Actually that would have sucked. 258 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: But anyway, we're in this meeting room and I'll never 259 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: forget the day when Craig and Todd they're going both 260 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: of us and then they just turned the blow torch 261 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: onto me. Yeah, hard, yeah, hard, yeah, really stepped up. 262 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: Really, it was. 263 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Like, you guys are all for at the moment we're 264 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: paying all this money, you're taking the piss. 265 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 4: We know you're partying. What in I lying? 266 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: Lying, lying? And then they just stopped the group attack 267 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: and they both just went for me and they were 268 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: both just like and it got I don't know, I 269 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: think probably because I just opened my mouth and probably 270 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: came back a bit vindictively and might have called them 271 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: hacks and talentless, et cetera. 272 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: And no, you didn't do that. 273 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: You did not do that. 274 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't have gone that far, but I just wouldn't. 275 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm not as good at taking me twenty two year 276 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: old me, like just not a great person. And they 277 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: came hard for me, and they thought it'started, getting very personal. 278 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like it go really personal, and I 279 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: mean I was upset, but I was also like, you 280 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: know again in that classic twenty two year old fuck 281 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: the world sort of a process, I was sort of 282 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: sitting back indignantly. 283 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 4: Like, you know, do your worst, like I don't care 284 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: to get together at which point? 285 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: And this is why I want to say this, because 286 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: I'll never forget the day. Would he, like Kevin Costner 287 00:12:53,400 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: in The Bodyguard, metaphorically flies in front of him and 288 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: flies in front of me by bursting into tears. 289 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 4: In this meeting room. 290 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Full ugly tears like leave weren't even coming to me. 291 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: But instead of saying leave Britney alone, he said leave 292 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: well alone. 293 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: He actually did. 294 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: That was the line, what do you think you need? 295 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: War? And like fully balling mys that wasn't even like 296 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 3: a cute like single tear. 297 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: It was like fully balling mys out and it was funny. 298 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 3: And in my efforts to in my efforts to diffuse 299 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: the situation and like try and protect Will. Unfortunately, what 300 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 3: I was doing was very much showing. 301 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: That we were nowhere. 302 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 5: Like I think it was Monday, one of you blokes 303 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 5: was just started crying about getting a bit of feedback, 304 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: hard feedback. 305 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 4: Mate. 306 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: Then they were like, oh man, this is this is 307 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: bigger than we thought this, this is a bigger problem 308 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: that we thought. 309 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: There was, like what do you started going Lee Will alone, 310 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: which is beauty by the way, thank you, I appreciate that. 311 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 4: That's right. 312 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: Didn't help. 313 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: They were like you were actually saying that I'm okay, 314 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: making it worse. Yeah, Because I think at that point 315 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: Craig was like, all right in case in point, yeah yeah, 316 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: you guys are cooked. 317 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, stood up and walked out. 318 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 319 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: I'll never forget that day as well, And I'm just 320 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: gonna I'm just going to piggyback on that story that was. 321 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 4: That was a day I never forget. 322 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: That was definitely, Yeah, the reason was a day I'll 323 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: never forget as well, because I think it was also 324 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: like this moment where you know, you're very privileged to 325 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: work in media and have a job in media, and 326 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: it's a long way to go for a big dog 327 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: like Craig Bruce, like for him to pick up and go. 328 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to go and just talk to the breakfast 329 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: sow about this issue. I remember thinking like maybe I 330 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: should stop taking the piss, which I think everyone kind 331 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: of as in their professional careers at some stage, maybe 332 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: a bit later for people. I think for us at 333 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: twenty two, there was a lot I was too young 334 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: to be on radio. Let's be honest, I was too 335 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: young to I was too young to be in the 336 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: public sphere, which led to a lot of issues for 337 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: me later down the track. But I remember at that 338 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: time thinking I really got to be responsible about my 339 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: job and who I am. And I don't know, it 340 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: was frustrating. 341 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: Do you get fired boys that day? 342 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: Or it was just to kick off the ass? 343 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: Like what was the consequence of that conversation? 344 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: Great question, Elch. We actually got a raise. 345 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: You know how it works for men in business? You 346 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: know you know how this works, ol. 347 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: J No, No, we didn't get fired. 348 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: I think it was very much a coming to Jesus 349 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: sort of a moment, which is what I'm talking about. 350 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: It was it was like, shit, Okay, we really need 351 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: to be responsible here now. 352 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: I think we turn We did turn it around somewhat 353 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: after that point. I think our Thursday Friday that week 354 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: was dynamite, was it. That was a turning point where 355 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: we did start to me and I think also just 356 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: from the personal perspectly from Heidi. 357 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: We sat down with Heidi and where we were like, yeah, 358 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: this is we're really fucking out of your life at 359 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: the moment. And it was because she would say to 360 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: us she knew she'd be like she'd come in and 361 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: she's like, fuck, you guys are ratchet again. And then 362 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: it kind of got to the point where we were like, okay, sorry, 363 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: we have been ratchet. 364 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, we used to come in and just 365 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: like unshowered on a Monday therefore, and it was just like, 366 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: oh my god. 367 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: I would like I would like to I would like 368 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: fall asleep in the pre show meetings because I like 369 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: pretty much hadn't slept not all the time. 370 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: Can I say not all the time? It was it's 371 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: some good areas, But to your point out it very 372 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: very lucky. 373 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: We weren't incredibly lucky and very grateful for people that stood. 374 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: By us during that time, say like that, that's a 375 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: good point. As well, like the Craig. 376 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 4: Todd factor there to go, And that's. 377 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: Actually lesson I've taken through looking after or trying to 378 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: manage people and our teams going forward in general, is 379 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: like he just give people a chance rather than and 380 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: I know that. 381 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: Like it seems like they came down and its like 382 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 4: a ton of bricks. 383 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: They could have just gone, this is not it, but 384 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: they were like, this sucks, fix it, here's a chance. 385 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think I learned a lot from that. 386 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent. And also we're very lucky 387 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 3: that we got to get a lot of that let's 388 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: say wildness out of our systems. Yeah, because I mean, 389 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: gee whiz, we're not We're. 390 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: Not the first people in media to have a bit 391 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: of a blowout on the weekend. It sort of comes 392 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: with the territory, you know, Like they know that if 393 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: they're going to get these people in here with these 394 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: personalities and effer vessence, they're going to get a bit 395 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: of wilderness on the site. And you probably want that, 396 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: but to a point controller you don't want to. Yeah, 397 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: and you know the rooms littered with other people who 398 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: have tipped themselves over the edge, and I don't need 399 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: to name names that we all know who those people 400 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: are who have enjoyed themselves outside of their media jobs. 401 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: There a certain footballer in Western Australia. I won't say 402 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: his name. 403 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: I was known as Now I'm not going to say 404 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 3: anything else, but he used to say they expect me 405 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 3: to play like a demon during the games, but then 406 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: act like an angel on the weekend. 407 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: On the weekends, It's just that's just not. 408 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 4: The way I'm wired. 409 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm all the time, I'm a demon all the time. 410 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 4: But I'm just going to do as much carry on. 411 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 3: Leads into that, I'm going to quickly piggyback. I know 412 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: I was going to pick the piggyback on my mat. 413 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: I'm never going to forget that because it's very much 414 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: tied in with that, just to show sort of where 415 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 3: we were at at that stage. I'll never forget the 416 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 3: time that it was Melbourne Cup Day and if you 417 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: if you know Melbourne Cup Day, it's on like a Tuesday, 418 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 3: Cup day and you. 419 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 4: Get a day off always. 420 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a holiday on a Tuesday, real, So 421 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: we had this lunch, had a bit of a lunch 422 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: after doing the not doing it, didn't do the radio show, 423 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: and then we had this lunch. 424 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: No, I think we do the radio show because its 425 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: breakfast radio. So when you finished, breakfast Radio goes we did. 426 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: You finish at nine o'clock and then you do a 427 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: bit of planning or whatever and then you leave. 428 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: But again public holidays. 429 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: There was a real public holiday vibe long lunch, and 430 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 3: then I decided after the lunch that I wanted to 431 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: keep on having a lovely time and I was going 432 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 3: to keep having just a little bit of fun. 433 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: He got by and I said night, Well see you mate. 434 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 4: I went home at that stage, but believable, so I kept. 435 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: I kept, I kept. 436 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: I went out and went to a pub and then 437 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 3: ended up at a nightclub and I was like, I'm 438 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: just having I'm just having a great, a great time. 439 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: And I'm at the bar at one. 440 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 3: Point there was probably two or three in the morning, 441 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: and I had ordered a couple of drinks and this 442 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: guy walked up to me, random god touched me and 443 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: tapped on the shoulder and I was like, man, how 444 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: ach you want one of these? 445 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: Yeahs? Like have that and he was like, I just reckon, 446 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 2: this is awesome and I was like, what's that mate? 447 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: He's like, I just reckon. It's so awesome that you're here. 448 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 3: It's two thirty in the morning and you've got to 449 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: be up at six am tomorrow morning for breakfast radio. 450 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: And I start laughing and go, mate, it's the weekend, 451 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 3: you idiot, Like I don't have to be up, and 452 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: he goes, no, mate. 453 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god. 454 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: High tailed it out of there, walking down. I was 455 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: in scarf. 456 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 4: You might be working an hour. 457 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I'm believing that. 458 00:19:54,520 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 4: A cab let your head living him Tuesday Tuesday, Yeah. 459 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: And then I so then I worked into work the 460 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: next day and what he was just on his back 461 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: was nowhere, just in the air lock, which is like 462 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of space where the producers hang out 463 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: in outside the studio, just on his back, and I 464 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: was like, just and there was just this whole air 465 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: lock just stunk like a brewery. 466 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 4: It was like. 467 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: And then I was like, what has gone on? And 468 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: what he got? So fucked? I thought last night. 469 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 2: Was now absolutely do not condone on the podcast. 470 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 3: You're getting the wrap up, a wrap of bad story. 471 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: Oh, we actually have to go