WEBVTT - The Dating App Making Ghosting Impossible 💕 👻

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<v Speaker 1>The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>It is twenty twenty three and what I am predicting

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<v Speaker 2>will be in is more complex conversations about dating. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I want to see some trial and

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<v Speaker 2>error in the arena. I feel like too many people

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<v Speaker 2>who aren't actively dating chatting about dating. You're clogging up

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<v Speaker 2>digital landscape with your opinions based on a fantasy. You're

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<v Speaker 2>taking your dating series from twenty fifteen and bring it

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<v Speaker 2>into the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>And we don't need that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't been on.

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<v Speaker 2>A date in the last three months, I need you

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<v Speaker 2>to opt out of the conversation respectfully.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a ticketed event.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a list, and you're not on it. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Please.

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<v Speaker 2>LIU is confusing the approach when we're talking dating trends

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<v Speaker 2>and trends cycles.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to know that you've actually been on a date,

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<v Speaker 1>not just theorizing from outsidele up, you don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>What it sounds like in here.

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<v Speaker 1>You go away.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had enough, But yeah, enjoy Flex and Frims, Flex

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<v Speaker 2>and Freme never miss a beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah are you no? Yeah, I'm like a bit off

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<v Speaker 1>of myself. When was the last time you ran on

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<v Speaker 1>like November. Yeah, I just want to get.

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<v Speaker 3>Near it in person.

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<v Speaker 1>I love getting near it in person. It's a different vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're taking vibe out of the vocabulary. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>say what we mean meeting people in person? Getting near

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<v Speaker 2>it in person requires a certain level of mutual commitment.

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<v Speaker 2>You can feel if the energy is mutual. You can

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<v Speaker 2>feel if the intention is mutual, and you are as

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<v Speaker 2>committed to the bit, as committed to the person as

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<v Speaker 2>you are to the time, like everything has to happened

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<v Speaker 2>in that time, not at all, And something about line

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<v Speaker 2>just feels so like timeless in a bad way. Sands

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<v Speaker 2>time like doesn't matter if I talk to you today

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<v Speaker 2>or tomorrow the next day, because time doesn't exist in.

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<v Speaker 1>This digital hellhole. Get off it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all getting near it in person. But I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>do you like to keep a breast of dating app updates?

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<v Speaker 1>Not that they ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Launch in Australia, but you just never know what might happen.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this new one that dropped called Tame Tame like

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<v Speaker 2>impalor without the implor. It's a good name. Obsessed Tame.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you on Tame? Are you on Tindo? You on hinge?

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<v Speaker 1>It fits I'd prefer to be two syllables, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a hearing one of them. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Their unique selling factor is that you can only talk

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<v Speaker 2>to one person at a time, and that neither of

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<v Speaker 2>you will be able to browse other profiles during your conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>So you actually have to give the person you're speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to the benefit of the doubt of full chance and

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<v Speaker 2>truly see that interaction through the whole way before you're

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to even consider talking to somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, is it in Australia?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, waves. I doubt it. I doubt it

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<v Speaker 1>off the dome? Are you down?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? Yeah, I try that for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I love a novelty dating app.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just needs the users though, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to see a familiar face, not even familiar. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you like log back on the app after you've

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<v Speaker 2>had your thirty five situationships, why are you still there, Richard?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you never logged off? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>You also can't swipe on Tame. Instead, they've got this

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<v Speaker 2>like customized questionnaire thing where people answer questions and based

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<v Speaker 2>on their answer, you can select them to talk to,

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<v Speaker 2>So you're kind of choosing someone based on like any

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<v Speaker 2>old app, based on what they say, not what they

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<v Speaker 2>look like. The app only shows people who are actively

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<v Speaker 2>using it as well. Cool, so if you haven't used

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<v Speaker 2>your profile in the last seven days, then it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this, So yeah, you can only see people

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<v Speaker 2>who are actively using the app. And I did hear

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<v Speaker 2>on TikTok and I didn't fact check it that bumble

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<v Speaker 2>and Tinder will only show you profiles to people who've

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<v Speaker 2>been on in the last thirty days. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>see someone that you're like, I'm pretty sure they have

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<v Speaker 2>a boyfriend, or.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure they have a girlfriend, or I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty sure yeah, well, they've had to have used the

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<v Speaker 2>app in the last month to have their profile come up,

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<v Speaker 2>so we might have to get a represent representative to

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<v Speaker 2>like let us know if that's legit, but surely it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like how that's setting up.

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<v Speaker 2>I know because did I tell you I saw this

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<v Speaker 2>guy I was friends with in high school, the boy group,

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<v Speaker 2>not at the same school. I saw his profile come

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<v Speaker 2>up and I was like, oh, TBT, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that thing where you match your friends for ha

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<v Speaker 2>haas it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>A bit don't do that anymore. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go on talking on Facebook to see, like

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<v Speaker 2>what's poppin'. When in his Facebook, the most recent post

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<v Speaker 2>from yesterday engage and posts babe, and his most recent

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<v Speaker 2>photo on the dating app was from the holiday. He

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<v Speaker 2>just went on with his fields.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not it's not looking good, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty three is the year of minding one's business.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just not a vigilante like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's not my business. I saw what I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, you can't ghost on this app, so they say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're no longer interested in talking to someone, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to leave the conversation to gain access to new profiles,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to fill in this questionnaire that gives

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<v Speaker 2>the person you're speaking to the reason why you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to speak to them anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I say? How do I say? So?

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that this app is encouraging a level of

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<v Speaker 2>intentionality that is necessary in dating, but my worry is

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<v Speaker 2>that it's so extremely on the other end of the

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<v Speaker 2>spectrum to what people are doing now that it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>too much of a culture shock that people will be

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<v Speaker 2>like performing intentionality for gags like I'm gonn this is

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<v Speaker 2>so call I got to talk to one person when

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<v Speaker 2>talking and then not realizing like what they're actually on

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<v Speaker 2>the app to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the issue with most apps. Actually, people

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<v Speaker 1>get stuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Into like the performance of using the app, like oh

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta I gotta change my pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think swindling could still occur on this app.

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<v Speaker 3>If I was someone who wanted to swindle people, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, I don't use this that much because

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<v Speaker 3>you know class see them again, say let's add me

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<v Speaker 3>on snap Classic. So that's what's gonna happen. But I

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<v Speaker 3>would definitely go on it. Come to Australia, sweetie, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I would join.

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<v Speaker 1>We just need in Okay, sorry, another burth is coming here.

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<v Speaker 3>Do they need influencer dating apps? Don't look at me

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<v Speaker 3>like that you thought you have a dating an influencer. No,

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<v Speaker 3>been on a date with an influencer?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I feel like I date we did like musicians,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah Classic, so like influencer by proxy. We need more

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<v Speaker 2>in person events. First of all, Sydney in particular, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about you are the states I am. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know your history, so let's talk Sydney. We need

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<v Speaker 2>more venues.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one, it's not every day a club, nighttime venues.

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<v Speaker 4>Please.

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<v Speaker 1>The Abercrombie opened up, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I heard about this, but now I'm hearing everything's ticketed.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to pop up somewhere, pop up somewhere light.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking about Abercromby because my friend was like, let's say

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday, the one with a twenty four hour license.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so sick.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, if everything's ticketed, that means like I just

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<v Speaker 2>want the kind of the grazing location with people just

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<v Speaker 2>like pop and pop out the freeders, the home street radios. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>pop in and pop about that where people just congregate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm looking for, because that's the energy you

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<v Speaker 2>need to.

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<v Speaker 1>Get near it. Iral.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not getting neared at ticketed events because I'm there

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<v Speaker 2>to work, and by work I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean enjoy someone to get my money's worth. Okay. We

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<v Speaker 1>also need to bring back loitering. Yes, outside of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, go loiterer at the local pub, Go loiter at

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<v Speaker 2>the local park, go loiter at the local give me

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<v Speaker 2>something super market.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like throwing you a little sim Yeah, chake the

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<v Speaker 3>sim around the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>But also just get people that need to get used

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<v Speaker 2>to you like grazing near them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>You graze outside the local bakery A couple a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days were cruising.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a regular cruising doll. Well, this is exciting, excited

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<v Speaker 3>for the Abercrombie. I am going to check it out

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<v Speaker 3>maybe this weekend. Yeah, give us the review you're gonna go.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a drinker's venue. Twenty four hour moment.

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<v Speaker 4>Keeter Flex and Froomes Flex and Firms.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you've heard, but we are actually

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<v Speaker 3>taking over the island. It's a venue in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of Sydney Harbor. We're taking it over on February third.

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<v Speaker 1>The price has gone up everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, in conjunction with Specs Savers. It's called Always Sonny.

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<v Speaker 3>Pray for good weather please for all of us. Anyway

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<v Speaker 3>you can enter to come and we are about to

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<v Speaker 3>call a woman called Amanda last name not hugging kiss

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<v Speaker 3>for the Simpsons fans in the audience, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>let her know that she has won VIP tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit it dj.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah. That's what I love to hear. A millennial who

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<v Speaker 2>knows how to pick up the phone properly. It's hello

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<v Speaker 2>Amanda speaking, not hey, Hi, Amanda. Guess who it is?

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<v Speaker 4>Did we ever wonder how to pick up the sorry?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, we've spoken to a few eighteen year old and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been green. It's been a raw hey, a raw hello.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not here to son daughter school anyone. But

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<v Speaker 2>it gets to a point where we have to be

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<v Speaker 2>educating the generations that come before after us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, future generation, Amanda.

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<v Speaker 4>Maga series, serious question.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know who it is?

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<v Speaker 4>I a it is more fanfare on your healf, but

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<v Speaker 4>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take it.

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<v Speaker 3>Amanda was so excited because we know that you applied

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<v Speaker 3>to come on to are Island, not Love Island, not

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<v Speaker 3>Friends on Island, but the island in Sydney Harbor, and

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<v Speaker 3>you're coming with VIP.

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<v Speaker 4>Tickets water time.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what I like, a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Tempid response, but that of course includes sunset sessions with drinks. Listen, Amanda,

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<v Speaker 3>this is so exciting. Could you please tell us what

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<v Speaker 3>has been your favorite show? Myment Inflicts and Friends. Please

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<v Speaker 3>hear me.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a big wine, babes. I wouldn't even know

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<v Speaker 2>how to answer that one.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean obviously everything, but I think I'm a big

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<v Speaker 4>fan of it. My other ass fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Now a little a little Bertie told me Bertie's Brook,

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<v Speaker 2>a producer, that you are doing some solo travel or

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<v Speaker 2>you want to?

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<v Speaker 4>So I actually it was kind of I've traveled for

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<v Speaker 4>it before. But I actually bought a ticket to a

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<v Speaker 4>music festival which was purely intending, purely intending to go solo.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like hyping myself up, like yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>could do this. I've traveled the world like solo, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I could do this, And I actually backtracked and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm making my sister come well, I think I just

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I was like, is this something that

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<v Speaker 4>people do, Like, is are there things that are not

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<v Speaker 4>solo dates? Or is it just purely personal standards? Like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy to eat by myself, so I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 4>go to the movies by myself. But like a music festival,

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<v Speaker 4>I think I just like like the line definitely yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like no, no, no, no, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if I could do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so what's the music festival?

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<v Speaker 4>GM? And it's like a reggae festival down a Woollongong.

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<v Speaker 1>True, this is do you know what I would.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's easier to travel alone than to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a music festival alone because music castle is a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of downtime. It's a lot of idle walking to

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<v Speaker 2>stage to stage to stage, standard age. But I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you've recruited your sister power in numbers. You never know

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<v Speaker 2>when you might need that.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly. And originally it was going to be I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they had at potus it then you. Originally it was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be in Sydney, so I was like, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>just drive, you know, stand at the back situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But then they.

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<v Speaker 4>Announced it was down a Wollongong, which requires to travel,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I like that's when I like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh no, there's an added layer of you know, travel accommodation,

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<v Speaker 4>not knowing the city here, And I was like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not that brave.

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<v Speaker 2>You've done the right thing, babe. Listen, We've got to

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<v Speaker 2>go unfortunately, but we will see you in T minus

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days, give or take. We will continue

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<v Speaker 2>this conversation. Then we have plenty to share and need

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<v Speaker 2>to put a face to a name. So see you

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<v Speaker 2>when we see you.

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<v Speaker 4>See you when I see you. Thanks for the core girl,

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<v Speaker 4>Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye, got another beautiful person coming to our show.

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<v Speaker 1>Love Phone Etiquette.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't want to say it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to bring etiquette back. I don't know, just

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<v Speaker 2>like a twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Three version me as I shovel chocolate in my mouth,

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<v Speaker 3>this doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to like reimagine what etiquette is in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. Tro Troe Troe, all right, we listened to

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<v Speaker 2>Flex and Rooms, Flex and.

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<v Speaker 1>Rooms, they're the best. Twenty twenty three is the year

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<v Speaker 1>of many things, the.

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<v Speaker 3>Traveling Sugar Free Sunk and kinder Bueno bars into my

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<v Speaker 3>gob as we.

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<v Speaker 1>Record exactly that, and also the year of the breakup anthem,

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<v Speaker 1>not the breakup because as you know, Flex and Frooms

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<v Speaker 1>will be with child by twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you on the pipeline as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm joining. So we have to start selling some

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<v Speaker 1>wild oats roots. I don't know, I don't know. Boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Miley Cyrus just dropped a new breakup anthem. Also there's

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<v Speaker 2>one by Shakira. I'm an advocate for more songs on

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<v Speaker 2>Australian radio stations that aren't in English, all in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of say See See see.

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<v Speaker 1>Me or migos.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched that the other day on YouTube, the Shakira one.

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<v Speaker 1>The raw emotion literally in it new level. It's so hectic.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been seeing a lot of discourse, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I used to be a big perpetrator of online discourse

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<v Speaker 2>and then I dropped off because it just takes way

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<v Speaker 2>too much emotional and mental energy and I'm too sensitive.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be a facilitator, Yeah, I want to. I might

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<v Speaker 2>ring aback who knows, who knows, who knows it? But

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about break up anthems as a whole

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<v Speaker 2>and how the internet is divided. One half of saying

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<v Speaker 2>this is really empowering that these women are able to

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<v Speaker 2>number one, be the own almost like, don't hold the

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<v Speaker 2>pen to their own narratives right, and tell the story

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that they want to and profit off it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>girl bosses, get your coins, nine figure babes all twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the other half is like, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is embarrassing because not only have you gone through something

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<v Speaker 2>really debilitating, you're letting everybody see how poorly you've been

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<v Speaker 2>treated and creating this environment where it's like, well, these

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<v Speaker 2>women of fame, class or whatever are also getting treated poorly.

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<v Speaker 2>Who said that babes, TikTok is a wild place? A

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<v Speaker 2>wild place. But I also think people just say stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like for every primary conversation, there is a counter conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Now show Yeah, so we are the problem. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the community, babes.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you reckon? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>Yay?

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<v Speaker 1>Your name breakup anthems, big yay.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't even been to a break up in a

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<v Speaker 3>long time. And the Miley one's hitting different right, everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if people go out and buy flowers, like

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<v Speaker 3>flower makers are just shaking their boots with excitement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you should get on it quick before the trend dies.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think though, I'm sick of sadness in music.

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<v Speaker 2>I love sad songs. I love heartbreak songs. I just

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<v Speaker 2>think we just need to like switch it up a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. Can I get like six back to back

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<v Speaker 2>songs that are happy?

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<v Speaker 3>Case in the Sunshine Band, the Beg's do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have any hip hop ones that you'd like to share?

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<v Speaker 2>Happy by Pharrell?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Just let's pick it up. Everyone, Let's pick it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get the energy going, happy, love, good, positive. See

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<v Speaker 2>how it fits and if it doesn't work out for people.

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<v Speaker 2>We can go back to what we're doing now.

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<v Speaker 3>Facts Okay, you've been listening to the Flex and Frooms

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