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Speaker 2: It is twenty twenty three and what I am predicting
Speaker 2: will be in is more complex conversations about dating. But
Speaker 2: you know what, I want to see some trial and
Speaker 2: error in the arena. I feel like too many people
Speaker 2: who aren't actively dating chatting about dating. You're clogging up
Speaker 2: digital landscape with your opinions based on a fantasy. You're
Speaker 2: taking your dating series from twenty fifteen and bring it
Speaker 2: into the conversation.
Speaker 3: And we don't need that.
Speaker 1: If you haven't been on.
Speaker 2: A date in the last three months, I need you
Speaker 2: to opt out of the conversation respectfully.
Speaker 3: It's a ticketed event.
Speaker 1: There's a list, and you're not on it. You're not
Speaker 1: on it. Please.
Speaker 2: LIU is confusing the approach when we're talking dating trends
Speaker 2: and trends cycles.
Speaker 1: I need to know that you've actually been on a date,
Speaker 1: not just theorizing from outsidele up, you don't know.
Speaker 3: What it sounds like in here.
Speaker 1: You go away.
Speaker 2: I've had enough, But yeah, enjoy Flex and Frims, Flex
Speaker 2: and Freme never miss a beat.
Speaker 1: Yeah are you no? Yeah, I'm like a bit off
Speaker 1: of myself. When was the last time you ran on
Speaker 1: like November. Yeah, I just want to get.
Speaker 3: Near it in person.
Speaker 1: I love getting near it in person. It's a different vibe.
Speaker 2: You know, we're taking vibe out of the vocabulary. Let's
Speaker 2: say what we mean meeting people in person? Getting near
Speaker 2: it in person requires a certain level of mutual commitment.
Speaker 2: You can feel if the energy is mutual. You can
Speaker 2: feel if the intention is mutual, and you are as
Speaker 2: committed to the bit, as committed to the person as
Speaker 2: you are to the time, like everything has to happened
Speaker 2: in that time, not at all, And something about line
Speaker 2: just feels so like timeless in a bad way. Sands
Speaker 2: time like doesn't matter if I talk to you today
Speaker 2: or tomorrow the next day, because time doesn't exist in.
Speaker 1: This digital hellhole. Get off it.
Speaker 2: We're all getting near it in person. But I will say,
Speaker 2: do you like to keep a breast of dating app updates?
Speaker 1: Not that they ever.
Speaker 2: Launch in Australia, but you just never know what might happen.
Speaker 2: There's this new one that dropped called Tame Tame like
Speaker 2: impalor without the implor. It's a good name. Obsessed Tame.
Speaker 1: Are you on Tame? Are you on Tindo? You on hinge?
Speaker 1: It fits I'd prefer to be two syllables, but it's
Speaker 1: not a hearing one of them. Okay.
Speaker 2: Their unique selling factor is that you can only talk
Speaker 2: to one person at a time, and that neither of
Speaker 2: you will be able to browse other profiles during your conversation,
Speaker 2: So you actually have to give the person you're speaking
Speaker 2: to the benefit of the doubt of full chance and
Speaker 2: truly see that interaction through the whole way before you're
Speaker 2: allowed to even consider talking to somebody else.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, is it in Australia?
Speaker 1: I don't know, waves. I doubt it. I doubt it
Speaker 1: off the dome? Are you down?
Speaker 3: Like? Yeah, I try that for sure.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: I love a novelty dating app.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just needs the users though, I don't want
Speaker 2: to see a familiar face, not even familiar. But you know,
Speaker 2: when you like log back on the app after you've
Speaker 2: had your thirty five situationships, why are you still there, Richard?
Speaker 1: Have you never logged off? Anyway?
Speaker 2: You also can't swipe on Tame. Instead, they've got this
Speaker 2: like customized questionnaire thing where people answer questions and based
Speaker 2: on their answer, you can select them to talk to,
Speaker 2: So you're kind of choosing someone based on like any
Speaker 2: old app, based on what they say, not what they
Speaker 2: look like. The app only shows people who are actively
Speaker 2: using it as well. Cool, so if you haven't used
Speaker 2: your profile in the last seven days, then it's over.
Speaker 2: I love this, So yeah, you can only see people
Speaker 2: who are actively using the app. And I did hear
Speaker 2: on TikTok and I didn't fact check it that bumble
Speaker 2: and Tinder will only show you profiles to people who've
Speaker 2: been on in the last thirty days. So if you
Speaker 2: see someone that you're like, I'm pretty sure they have
Speaker 2: a boyfriend, or.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they have a girlfriend, or I'm.
Speaker 2: Pretty sure yeah, well, they've had to have used the
Speaker 2: app in the last month to have their profile come up,
Speaker 2: so we might have to get a represent representative to
Speaker 2: like let us know if that's legit, but surely it is.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't like how that's setting up.
Speaker 2: I know because did I tell you I saw this
Speaker 2: guy I was friends with in high school, the boy group,
Speaker 2: not at the same school. I saw his profile come
Speaker 2: up and I was like, oh, TBT, but I don't
Speaker 2: do that thing where you match your friends for ha
Speaker 2: haas it's just.
Speaker 1: A bit don't do that anymore. But I was like,
Speaker 1: this is so interesting.
Speaker 2: Let me go on talking on Facebook to see, like
Speaker 2: what's poppin'. When in his Facebook, the most recent post
Speaker 2: from yesterday engage and posts babe, and his most recent
Speaker 2: photo on the dating app was from the holiday. He
Speaker 2: just went on with his fields.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not looking good, brother.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three is the year of minding one's business.
Speaker 2: I'm just not a vigilante like that.
Speaker 1: I just it's not my business. I saw what I saw.
Speaker 1: I don't know you.
Speaker 2: Also, you can't ghost on this app, so they say,
Speaker 2: if you're no longer interested in talking to someone, you
Speaker 2: have to leave the conversation to gain access to new profiles,
Speaker 2: and you have to fill in this questionnaire that gives
Speaker 2: the person you're speaking to the reason why you don't
Speaker 2: want to speak to them anymore.
Speaker 1: How do I say? How do I say? So?
Speaker 2: I understand that this app is encouraging a level of
Speaker 2: intentionality that is necessary in dating, but my worry is
Speaker 2: that it's so extremely on the other end of the
Speaker 2: spectrum to what people are doing now that it's almost
Speaker 2: too much of a culture shock that people will be
Speaker 2: like performing intentionality for gags like I'm gonn this is
Speaker 2: so call I got to talk to one person when
Speaker 2: talking and then not realizing like what they're actually on
Speaker 2: the app to do.
Speaker 1: I think that's the issue with most apps. Actually, people
Speaker 1: get stuck.
Speaker 2: Into like the performance of using the app, like oh
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta change my pictures.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think swindling could still occur on this app.
Speaker 3: If I was someone who wanted to swindle people, I'll
Speaker 3: be like, oh, I don't use this that much because
Speaker 3: you know class see them again, say let's add me
Speaker 3: on snap Classic. So that's what's gonna happen. But I
Speaker 3: would definitely go on it. Come to Australia, sweetie, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I would join.
Speaker 1: We just need in Okay, sorry, another burth is coming here.
Speaker 3: Do they need influencer dating apps? Don't look at me
Speaker 3: like that you thought you have a dating an influencer. No,
Speaker 3: been on a date with an influencer?
Speaker 2: No? I feel like I date we did like musicians,
Speaker 2: Yeah Classic, so like influencer by proxy. We need more
Speaker 2: in person events. First of all, Sydney in particular, and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about you are the states I am. I
Speaker 2: don't know your history, so let's talk Sydney. We need
Speaker 2: more venues.
Speaker 3: Number one, it's not every day a club, nighttime venues.
Speaker 4: Please.
Speaker 1: The Abercrombie opened up, I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah I heard about this, but now I'm hearing everything's ticketed.
Speaker 1: I just want to pop up somewhere, pop up somewhere light.
Speaker 3: Talking about Abercromby because my friend was like, let's say
Speaker 3: on Saturday, the one with a twenty four hour license.
Speaker 1: Yes, so sick.
Speaker 2: But like, if everything's ticketed, that means like I just
Speaker 2: want the kind of the grazing location with people just
Speaker 2: like pop and pop out the freeders, the home street radios. Yes,
Speaker 2: pop in and pop about that where people just congregate.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm looking for, because that's the energy you
Speaker 2: need to.
Speaker 1: Get near it. Iral.
Speaker 2: We're not getting neared at ticketed events because I'm there
Speaker 2: to work, and by work I.
Speaker 1: Mean enjoy someone to get my money's worth. Okay. We
Speaker 1: also need to bring back loitering. Yes, outside of the house.
Speaker 2: Yes, go loiterer at the local pub, Go loiter at
Speaker 2: the local park, go loiter at the local give me
Speaker 2: something super market.
Speaker 3: It's like throwing you a little sim Yeah, chake the
Speaker 3: sim around the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: But also just get people that need to get used
Speaker 2: to you like grazing near them.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You graze outside the local bakery A couple a couple
Speaker 2: of days were cruising.
Speaker 3: You're a regular cruising doll. Well, this is exciting, excited
Speaker 3: for the Abercrombie. I am going to check it out
Speaker 3: maybe this weekend. Yeah, give us the review you're gonna go.
Speaker 3: I think it's a drinker's venue. Twenty four hour moment.
Speaker 4: Keeter Flex and Froomes Flex and Firms.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard, but we are actually
Speaker 3: taking over the island. It's a venue in the middle
Speaker 3: of Sydney Harbor. We're taking it over on February third.
Speaker 1: The price has gone up everywhere.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, in conjunction with Specs Savers. It's called Always Sonny.
Speaker 3: Pray for good weather please for all of us. Anyway
Speaker 3: you can enter to come and we are about to
Speaker 3: call a woman called Amanda last name not hugging kiss
Speaker 3: for the Simpsons fans in the audience, and we're gonna
Speaker 3: let her know that she has won VIP tickets.
Speaker 1: Hit it dj.
Speaker 2: Ah. That's what I love to hear. A millennial who
Speaker 2: knows how to pick up the phone properly. It's hello
Speaker 2: Amanda speaking, not hey, Hi, Amanda. Guess who it is?
Speaker 4: Did we ever wonder how to pick up the sorry?
Speaker 2: Look, we've spoken to a few eighteen year old and
Speaker 2: it's been green. It's been a raw hey, a raw hello.
Speaker 2: And I'm not here to son daughter school anyone. But
Speaker 2: it gets to a point where we have to be
Speaker 2: educating the generations that come before after us.
Speaker 1: Yes, future generation, Amanda.
Speaker 4: Maga series, serious question.
Speaker 1: Do you know who it is?
Speaker 4: I a it is more fanfare on your healf, but
Speaker 4: I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I'll take it.
Speaker 3: Amanda was so excited because we know that you applied
Speaker 3: to come on to are Island, not Love Island, not
Speaker 3: Friends on Island, but the island in Sydney Harbor, and
Speaker 3: you're coming with VIP.
Speaker 4: Tickets water time.
Speaker 1: And this is what I like, a very.
Speaker 3: Tempid response, but that of course includes sunset sessions with drinks. Listen, Amanda,
Speaker 3: this is so exciting. Could you please tell us what
Speaker 3: has been your favorite show? Myment Inflicts and Friends. Please
Speaker 3: hear me.
Speaker 2: That is a big wine, babes. I wouldn't even know
Speaker 2: how to answer that one.
Speaker 4: I mean obviously everything, but I think I'm a big
Speaker 4: fan of it. My other ass fan.
Speaker 2: Now a little a little Bertie told me Bertie's Brook,
Speaker 2: a producer, that you are doing some solo travel or
Speaker 2: you want to?
Speaker 4: So I actually it was kind of I've traveled for
Speaker 4: it before. But I actually bought a ticket to a
Speaker 4: music festival which was purely intending, purely intending to go solo.
Speaker 4: And I was like hyping myself up, like yeah, I
Speaker 4: could do this. I've traveled the world like solo, Like
Speaker 4: I could do this, And I actually backtracked and I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm making my sister come well, I think I just
Speaker 4: I don't know. I was like, is this something that
Speaker 4: people do, Like, is are there things that are not
Speaker 4: solo dates? Or is it just purely personal standards? Like
Speaker 4: I'm happy to eat by myself, so I'm happy to
Speaker 4: go to the movies by myself. But like a music festival,
Speaker 4: I think I just like like the line definitely yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like no, no, no, no, I don't know
Speaker 4: if I could do this.
Speaker 1: Wait, so what's the music festival?
Speaker 4: GM? And it's like a reggae festival down a Woollongong.
Speaker 1: True, this is do you know what I would.
Speaker 2: I think it's easier to travel alone than to go
Speaker 2: to a music festival alone because music castle is a
Speaker 2: lot of downtime. It's a lot of idle walking to
Speaker 2: stage to stage to stage, standard age. But I'm glad
Speaker 2: you've recruited your sister power in numbers. You never know
Speaker 2: when you might need that.
Speaker 4: Exactly. And originally it was going to be I mean,
Speaker 4: they had at potus it then you. Originally it was
Speaker 4: going to be in Sydney, so I was like, I'll
Speaker 4: just drive, you know, stand at the back situation.
Speaker 1: But then they.
Speaker 4: Announced it was down a Wollongong, which requires to travel,
Speaker 4: and then I like that's when I like, I was like,
Speaker 4: oh no, there's an added layer of you know, travel accommodation,
Speaker 4: not knowing the city here, And I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I'm not that brave.
Speaker 2: You've done the right thing, babe. Listen, We've got to
Speaker 2: go unfortunately, but we will see you in T minus
Speaker 2: a couple of days, give or take. We will continue
Speaker 2: this conversation. Then we have plenty to share and need
Speaker 2: to put a face to a name. So see you
Speaker 2: when we see you.
Speaker 4: See you when I see you. Thanks for the core girl,
Speaker 4: Bye bye.
Speaker 3: Bye, got another beautiful person coming to our show.
Speaker 1: Love Phone Etiquette.
Speaker 2: I think I don't want to say it, but I
Speaker 2: would love to bring etiquette back. I don't know, just
Speaker 2: like a twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Three version me as I shovel chocolate in my mouth,
Speaker 3: this doesn't count.
Speaker 2: We need to like reimagine what etiquette is in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three. Tro Troe Troe, all right, we listened to
Speaker 2: Flex and Rooms, Flex and.
Speaker 1: Rooms, they're the best. Twenty twenty three is the year
Speaker 1: of many things, the.
Speaker 3: Traveling Sugar Free Sunk and kinder Bueno bars into my
Speaker 3: gob as we.
Speaker 1: Record exactly that, and also the year of the breakup anthem,
Speaker 1: not the breakup because as you know, Flex and Frooms
Speaker 1: will be with child by twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3: Are you on the pipeline as well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm joining. So we have to start selling some
Speaker 1: wild oats roots. I don't know, I don't know. Boys.
Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus just dropped a new breakup anthem. Also there's
Speaker 2: one by Shakira. I'm an advocate for more songs on
Speaker 2: Australian radio stations that aren't in English, all in favor
Speaker 2: of say See See see.
Speaker 1: Me or migos.
Speaker 3: I watched that the other day on YouTube, the Shakira one.
Speaker 1: The raw emotion literally in it new level. It's so hectic.
Speaker 2: I've been seeing a lot of discourse, and you know,
Speaker 2: I used to be a big perpetrator of online discourse
Speaker 2: and then I dropped off because it just takes way
Speaker 2: too much emotional and mental energy and I'm too sensitive.
Speaker 2: Could be a facilitator, Yeah, I want to. I might
Speaker 2: ring aback who knows, who knows, who knows it? But
Speaker 2: I was thinking about break up anthems as a whole
Speaker 2: and how the internet is divided. One half of saying
Speaker 2: this is really empowering that these women are able to
Speaker 2: number one, be the own almost like, don't hold the
Speaker 2: pen to their own narratives right, and tell the story
Speaker 2: in the way that they want to and profit off it. Yes,
Speaker 2: girl bosses, get your coins, nine figure babes all twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three.
Speaker 1: But then the other half is like, this.
Speaker 2: Is embarrassing because not only have you gone through something
Speaker 2: really debilitating, you're letting everybody see how poorly you've been
Speaker 2: treated and creating this environment where it's like, well, these
Speaker 2: women of fame, class or whatever are also getting treated poorly.
Speaker 2: Who said that babes, TikTok is a wild place? A
Speaker 2: wild place. But I also think people just say stuff
Speaker 2: like for every primary conversation, there is a counter conversation.
Speaker 2: Now show Yeah, so we are the problem. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the community, babes.
Speaker 1: What do you reckon? Though?
Speaker 2: Yay?
Speaker 1: Your name breakup anthems, big yay.
Speaker 3: I haven't even been to a break up in a
Speaker 3: long time. And the Miley one's hitting different right, everyone's like,
Speaker 3: I wonder if people go out and buy flowers, like
Speaker 3: flower makers are just shaking their boots with excitement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should get on it quick before the trend dies.
Speaker 2: I do think though, I'm sick of sadness in music.
Speaker 2: I love sad songs. I love heartbreak songs. I just
Speaker 2: think we just need to like switch it up a
Speaker 2: little bit. Can I get like six back to back
Speaker 2: songs that are happy?
Speaker 3: Case in the Sunshine Band, the Beg's do you.
Speaker 2: Have any hip hop ones that you'd like to share?
Speaker 2: Happy by Pharrell?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Just let's pick it up. Everyone, Let's pick it up.
Speaker 2: Let's get the energy going, happy, love, good, positive. See
Speaker 2: how it fits and if it doesn't work out for people.
Speaker 2: We can go back to what we're doing now.
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