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Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line is the opposition leader

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Speaker 1: Leah fanocchi Airo. Good morning to you, Leah.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie and to your listeners. And you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: It is heart wrenching.

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Speaker 3: It's heart wrenching stuff.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, we just heard from the Chief Minister, Natasha Files

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Speaker 1: and we know that there are indeed calls for stronger

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Speaker 1: community safety legislation following the death of Saifat last week

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Speaker 1: and another stabbing of course on the weekend. Leah, you

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Speaker 1: is it's devastating stuff. I can't imagine how people were

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Speaker 2: This has rocked people to their core, Katie, and for

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Speaker 2: good reason, because if you can't be peacefully asleep at

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Speaker 2: And this has just reached a new level for the

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Speaker 2: crime across the territory. It now absolutely, without question, represents

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Speaker 2: a threat to life in the everyday ordinary sense. People

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Speaker 2: every single person every single day. It is an emergency,

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Speaker 2: and it requires an emergency response and the budget being

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Speaker 2: handed down in twenty six minutes time. Katie needs to

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Speaker 2: deliver first and foremost on community safety because we cannot

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Speaker 1: Well, look, maybe I'm reading it wrong, and I'm more

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Speaker 1: than happy for people to get in contact with me

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Speaker 1: that the budget spaning handed down in the Northern Territory

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Speaker 1: and they're more concerned at this point in time about

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Speaker 3: You know, this.

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Speaker 1: Also isn't the first time that the Northern Territories felt

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Speaker 1: What did you make of the Chief Finister's comments around

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Speaker 2: Oh, the time for reviews is well and truly over.

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Speaker 2: People are dying, Katie. This is not a time to

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Speaker 2: immediate action. How many more people, innocent Territorians have to

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Speaker 2: the harsh but true question that people have on their minds.

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Speaker 2: This is a two weeks sitting of parliament, Katie. There

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Speaker 2: above the rights of offenders, and we should be focusing

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Speaker 1: I mean, what would you really because this is the

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Speaker 2: Yes, So next week in Parliament we are going to

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Speaker 2: But there needs to be so much more. We've clearly

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Speaker 1: Lea just on the legislation that you are going to

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Speaker 2: So we as an opposition only get a very small

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Speaker 2: miraculously to support us to do it on their time, Katie,

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Speaker 2: which I'm not holding my breath about, but hope.

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Speaker 3: So what are you doing tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: I guess people are going to be wondering rather than

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Speaker 2: So tomorrow is Robin Lamley, so we see that four

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Speaker 3: That's fair enough.

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Speaker 1: I know that, Like I just know that some people

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Speaker 1: as what you say it is, why isn't it happening

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, and but you know we wait. We

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Speaker 2: The people I've talked to who lock their bedroom doors,

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Speaker 1: It really isn't It is absolutely atrocious. What is going on, Leah.

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Speaker 3: Our number one priority.

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Speaker 1: The Chief Finessar had said just a little while ago

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Speaker 2: Because the severity of crime is so high that our

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Speaker 3: Do you think that the.

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Speaker 2: Well, Natasha Files has shown she simply doesn't have the

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister flew into Alice Springs for four hours

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Speaker 2: Now that money should have been spent already. It was

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Speaker 2: The community and the colp and anyone who cares about

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Speaker 1: Lida, do you think that the Chief Minister's position is

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it actually reflects worse on her colleagues.

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Speaker 2: Every single Labor member in that team is a member

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Speaker 2: Natasha Files. This is about the community and doing what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the time for the time for change is now,

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Speaker 1: as in there needs to be some really serious action

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Speaker 1: and they need it fast. Leah Finocchiaro, we are going

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Speaker 1: to have to leave it there unless there's anything that

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Speaker 2: Well, all I can say, Katie is at our hearts

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Speaker 2: and thoughts and prayers go out to Sefat who will

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Speaker 3: And we can.

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Speaker 2: Only pray in all honesty, Kati, that at ten o'clock

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Speaker 2: there is going to be news in this budget that

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Speaker 2: is going to deliver on community safety for the sake

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Speaker 2: of all of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, we'll try our best to keep an ear

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Speaker 1: on things. Leah fan Occhiaro, the opposition leader. We appreciate

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Speaker 3: Today, Take care, Thank you,