1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: This is gem nation with strange things are happening in 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: America at the moment. It feels like in some respects 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: they're going backwards. You know, I had to say you're 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: gay in Florida and the latest thing now and trans 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: are being vilified in many places. Sounds a little bit 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: like what's happening in Australia too sometimes. But this has 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: been a big one and it looks like they're drafting 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court is drafting an opinion to overturn Roe v. Wade. 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade is a ruling for fifty years that 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: has given women the right to an abortion. They are 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: trying to This is according to this draft ruling that 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: has been leaked. They want to overturn that so that 13 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: you don't have a constitutional right to an abortion. The 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: states will decide, and a number of states have already 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: said we will not allow it. Some are saying we 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: won't allow it under any circumstances, whether there's incest, whether 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: there's rape, whether the mother's life is in danger. It 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: is extraordinary. This is one Republican US Senate from North Dakota, 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Kramer. He said the fetus is worth losing the 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: mother's life, there are no exceptions. 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: So if the baby is going to kill the mother, 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: and I read about a case where the baby or 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: the fetus didn't have any of the vital organs for 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: that child, and it was also going to kill the mother. 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: Go home and wait to see what happened. Extraordinary. This 26 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: other woman, she is the running mate of the governor 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. She said women who are raped should quote 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: make lemons out of lemonade, and said she supports banning 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: abortion with no exceptions for rape or insect So. 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 2: What if that woman is a twelve year old girl 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: who gets raped by her. 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: Step by her own father, that baby is born, it's nuts. 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: And then this is the thing pro life. They don't 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: care about the life of the child once it's born. 35 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: Mental retardation because it's a victim of incest. Who cares, 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: You don't know, No one gets extra healthcare, extra support. 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: They don't care about life, care about the mother's life. 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: And this is it's almost handmaids to take that. 39 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: Kid picks up at ar fifteen and goes and shoots 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: everyone up at the school. Who cares thoughts and prayers. 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: And the mother's life. You can determine your own health 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: but the minute you're pregnant, you're an incubator, and the 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 1: minute you're not pregnant, you can determine your own health. Again, 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: it's just extraordinary that the implications of this and this 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: won't be the end of abortion. It'll be the end 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: of safe abortion. That's what women have had for fifty 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: years in America, is safe abortion. A third of Americans 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: less than a third of American support overturning this, meaning 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: more than two thirds of American are pro abortion. One 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: in four American women have had abortions. So this Supreme 51 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Court ruling because of all the conservatives who are now 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: there on the court thanks to Donald Trump, have voted 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: in a conservative way, and it's not representing the community. 54 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: What was his view on abortion? 55 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: This is the thing. He doesn't have a religious bone 56 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: in his body. He's never said his anti abortion. The 57 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: story is that he courted those votes very early on, 58 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: and the religious right wing said, we will give you 59 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: our votes if you then get us on the Supreme Court, 60 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: if you then ratify a number of demands that we have. 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: So that's why this stuff has happened. This conservative nature, 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: this backlash against America's freedoms has happened under his tenure, 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: It's been happening for a while, but he's fallen into 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: that because that was a huge vote getter for him. 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: But what we're finding is now people are saying, well, 66 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: if this can be overturned, will they overturn gay marriage? 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: What's going to happen next. You can't rely on these 68 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: things being actual law anymore, whether they reflect what society 69 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: wants or not. It's terrifying. 70 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: Freedom spelled with a dumb Yeah. 71 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Freedom, It's quite right.