WEBVTT - Rebounds - Getting over it, by getting under it

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout

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<v Speaker 1>Australia and their connections to land, sea and community. We

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<v Speaker 1>pay our respect to their elders past and present and

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<v Speaker 1>extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander

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<v Speaker 1>peoples today.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is recorded on Gadigal Land of the Aurora Nation. Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>guys and all, welcome back to another episode that was

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<v Speaker 2>very your hands.

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<v Speaker 3>On your heart that it was very emotional. Is it

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<v Speaker 3>emotional because it's our second last episode of the year. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the second last week, second last Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah. Here sheeses, ladies and gentlemen. It's Brittany Hockley coming

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<v Speaker 3>in from behind. Well I'm Brittany. I'm also Laura. Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi everybody, it's been a hell of a doozy of

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<v Speaker 2>a weekend. What did you do this weekend?

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<v Speaker 3>We do? You know? I want to know why you

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<v Speaker 3>feel like it's a doozy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've spoken about this on the pond,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've had tons of lightis like you've been very

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<v Speaker 1>unwell and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think I think we haven't spoken about it. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's catching up.

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<v Speaker 2>With you, but just keep on plowing through. I just

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<v Speaker 2>keep pretending like I'm not sick. And then the other

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<v Speaker 2>day I went to the doctors and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>can we run your bloods? Because she's like, you're really

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<v Speaker 2>think you're really sick? And I was like, Noah, I'm fine, man,

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<v Speaker 2>everything is good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also hard when it's your tonsils and you talk

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<v Speaker 1>for a living like it's not one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where you can just go and rest, just a little

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<v Speaker 1>salt or to gargle, babe.

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<v Speaker 3>You do You've been gargling a lot at my house? Yeah? Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>Well what do I do this weekend? Nothing's too exciting?

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<v Speaker 2>You were to be honest, And I want to know,

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<v Speaker 2>how's the guy? How's the dating that's been happening recently?

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<v Speaker 1>I have been dating someone, yes, loosely, you loosely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like for a little bit now, but not like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like we're exclusive.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's not overly serious, yap, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>And then you're like, I can't say that because and

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<v Speaker 2>what if he hears this and then he thinks it's serious,

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've just said it's serious, and oh dear.

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<v Speaker 1>God, it's a fucking mindfield and he listens to an episode,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I have to be careful. Well, can I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you would explain it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what the label is right now. It's serious without

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<v Speaker 1>being serious. I think it's going that way, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not there yet.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so annoying, isn't it when it's just in that

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<v Speaker 2>land of like ambiguity?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's it called?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? It's no man's land called purgatory, pergos, dating, doning,

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<v Speaker 1>heaven and I'm not now it's dating purgatory, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>on the way out, but but I don't know. No,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going very well. I will be seeing him

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<v Speaker 1>over the Christmas period.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing for Christmas? Brit Well?

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<v Speaker 1>I booked flights last night, Laura, shit, I booked flights overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be handing overseas for the festive season.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, I am going to lay it all on

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<v Speaker 1>the line here because he actually doesn't live here. As

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we know that that's a common theme for me.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't live here, So I am going to go

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<v Speaker 1>and investigate what that looks like and if it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be something that I want to investigate further.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a conversation about this in the car the

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<v Speaker 2>other day and britt was like, look, Laura, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go down. You said, I'm gonna go overseas and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to see him, and the worst thing that's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>happen is that I'm gonna have the best sex of

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<v Speaker 2>my life for like two weeks and then I'll come

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<v Speaker 2>home and it'll be fine. And I was like, no, Brittany,

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<v Speaker 2>the worst thing that's going to happen is you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to fall in love with someone who lives overseas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was like, worst case scenario, Worst case scenario.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm very happy holiday. This fucking sounds great. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>don't take that headline like Britty goes man. I just

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<v Speaker 3>hated to one a plant of these days, don't I.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it does sound like you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 2>fucking great Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, well, I'm at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Point in and I'm and a lot of people out there. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're at that point where you don't know what something

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<v Speaker 1>is yet. There's only one way to find out, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is to go to Scotland. But as I love

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<v Speaker 1>to say, my favorite quote risk it for the biscuit

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't rain, it pause right.

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<v Speaker 3>And for me, it's in a drought. For quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I started seeing this person that I'm very interested in,

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<v Speaker 1>and since then someone from my past has come back

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<v Speaker 1>and they're trying to you know, they're showing their interests again.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was very honest, because I always am. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>look that ship has sort of sailed. Now you missed

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<v Speaker 1>the boat a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing someone. And then it went escalated. I love

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<v Speaker 1>you though, I love you, that's what and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. I said, you don't. It's just because I do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I want this kind of thing, and what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do with that? I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what else to tell you. I'm seeing someone. And

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<v Speaker 1>we had this conversation again last couple of weeks. When

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<v Speaker 1>someone thinks they kind have you, they want you ten

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<v Speaker 1>times more, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I think now after three years, three hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 2>episodes of this podcast, I see it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can sniff that out.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you're not in love with me, you're in

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<v Speaker 2>love with not being able to have me, so therefore

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<v Speaker 2>you want me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is really unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am a relationship therapist, unqualified.

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<v Speaker 3>There is still absolutely no paperwork on either of our walls.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, We'll keep on trying well. I

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<v Speaker 3>will either come back in the new year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's either going to You're either going to get like

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<v Speaker 1>happy in lust love Brittany, or you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>heartbroken Brittany.

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<v Speaker 2>So we don't nobody can handle heartbroken Brittany again.

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<v Speaker 3>No one wants. I don't want that for you. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're thinking about you. You're like, oh, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to be dragging around a bed again.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not for me. I don't want you to

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<v Speaker 2>be heartbroken again. That's a horrible thing to have to

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<v Speaker 2>go through, and I don't ever want that for you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm very excited that you have, truly, because we're

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<v Speaker 2>taking five weeks off, guys, like this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a big Christmas holiday break for us this year.

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<v Speaker 2>We have this week of episodes, we have next week

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<v Speaker 2>of episodes. We have a really great episode next week

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<v Speaker 2>planned which I think will be very relevant for everybody

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<v Speaker 2>heading into the Christmas period, very topical. But then we're

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<v Speaker 2>taking five weeks off and we're not back until kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the end of jan for some real R

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<v Speaker 2>and R before we come back absolutely steaming into.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm very happy that you're having what is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a rejuvenating experience.

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<v Speaker 3>For your whole body. It's called holistic health. How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Was what happened on your weekend? Do anything eventful? Did

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<v Speaker 3>anybums on you? I'm amazing sex?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you? No, I didn't have any sex. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Okay, this was my weekend. My kids have

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<v Speaker 2>the best social life and I don't have a social life.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a better social life than we do. Literally.

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<v Speaker 2>So Saturday morning, I went to the preschool Christmas party.

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<v Speaker 2>We had sausages in the park and there was face

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<v Speaker 2>painting and Santa came and gave out Christmas presents.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it's a really big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's where all of our school fees

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<v Speaker 2>go to. Like, daycare is so expensive and now I know, why.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have to purchase? Is it like a secret standard?

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<v Speaker 1>Does every family have to purchase a present? No?

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<v Speaker 3>For like, no, no, where do they come from?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm expecting I Like on Friday when we picked the

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<v Speaker 2>kids up from daycare, I was like, oh, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you need me to bring to this Christmas party tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, nothing, just come, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's that's where my money goes. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what's going to be there? And they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>just come. It's a great day. And my kids have

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<v Speaker 2>only just started this daycare. They've only been going there

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<v Speaker 2>for three months. And prior to that we were at

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<v Speaker 2>a different daycare and they had been there for three years.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is all a new experience to us. And

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<v Speaker 2>we rocked up and there was like face painting and

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<v Speaker 2>Santa came with a big sack of presents for every

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<v Speaker 2>single child, and then there was sausage sizzles with not

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<v Speaker 2>even with minute steaks, with legit steaks.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, this is an Eastern summer Christmas party.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a big what's it called a rump steak?

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<v Speaker 2>It was?

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But so we did that on Saturday. Then Saturday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>like Morley went and played at the neighbor's house and

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<v Speaker 2>we went and swamm in their pool. Then Sunday it

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<v Speaker 2>was a three year old birthday party and then we

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<v Speaker 2>went home.

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<v Speaker 3>We put the tree up. The whole weekend I was

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<v Speaker 3>like cooked. These children ruled me. Yeah, that's what kids

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<v Speaker 3>do for like thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So if anyone wants to know what I'm doing next week,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also going to kids birthday buddies. Ah, I's a

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<v Speaker 3>know from me.

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<v Speaker 2>But we this year, this is the very first year

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<v Speaker 2>in oh God ever that we are hosting Christmas. Everybody

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<v Speaker 2>is coming to day Christmas Day. Literally, our entire family

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<v Speaker 2>are coming to my house.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you just give me a minute. I'm just praying

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<v Speaker 3>for you. Thank you, just a minute. House. Also, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the thing I need to come like.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish it that I told people this more like

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<v Speaker 2>the people in my family, I think they think I

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<v Speaker 2>can cook.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I will tell you direct them to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Burne cannot cook.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time I cooked Christmas lunch for anyone, I

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<v Speaker 2>tried to cook a pork with crackling and I set

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking oven on fire. So I think we're just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do ham like cold ham. I'm not gonna cook it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna glaze it.

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<v Speaker 3>You just buy it. You still have to carve it.

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<v Speaker 3>I can cut it. Well, first of all, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>called cutting. You carve it with a car I can

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<v Speaker 3>cut it and people can have hunks of ham for

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<v Speaker 3>lunch and prawns. That's what I'm we do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be it's gonna be a cold lunch for

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Day, and I think that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So an example, I had this conversation with my sister

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<v Speaker 1>last night. I just tried to cook garlic bread last night.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for dinner. This is how sad my life is.

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<v Speaker 1>And a burnt to a crisp. But it was these

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<v Speaker 1>two little black balls. I sent it to my sister

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<v Speaker 1>as my sister was simultaneously typing up the menu for

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Day. Now, my sister is a nutritionis. She's an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing cook. But she's done a menu.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a full four course for a huge amount

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<v Speaker 3>of people. She froths.

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<v Speaker 2>It is also a lot younger than you.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it make you.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel like, yes, that's how I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 2>a failure, Like I can't Okay. I can do lots

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<v Speaker 2>of things. Cooking isn't one of them. So why are

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<v Speaker 2>we highlighting this?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Can you not?

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it's something my family does, says every year,

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<v Speaker 1>but Sherry loves to do it, so she does it.

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<v Speaker 1>But every year, after we're cleaning up for hours, you

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<v Speaker 1>spend the whole day in the kitchen or cleaning up. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>every year we're like, we're gonna cater it next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you just cater Why don't you go to charlgirl?

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie's you are But it's okay, Yeah, lean into your strengths,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell anyone, use your.

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<v Speaker 3>Boundaries, say no to things that don't serve you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you just gotta buy some chalks.

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<v Speaker 1>As I'm salling and be like, guys, I've been prepping

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<v Speaker 1>this all morning. Take the child, Charlie's wrapper off it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what. They'll probably hear this and sponsor you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you know what? There are a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>things that we wanted to unpack. But before we get

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<v Speaker 2>into all the nitty gritty of this episode, let's tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what this episode's about.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a real nostalgic episode for.

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<v Speaker 2>Us because we don't have any experts on here today

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<v Speaker 2>interviewing anyone. It's just you and me, Brittany.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't done this for a while. We're going it alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you feel nervous? No? I mean I know what

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<v Speaker 3>I've been for sitting across from you now where Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been four years. Can you believe that three and

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<v Speaker 3>a half million, four years? That's crazy? We can look out.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting so nostalogic at the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>This is also my second longest relationship, also my only one. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So today's episode, what we're talking about is a very

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<v Speaker 2>common relationship phenomena. We've spoken about it loads on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>but weirdly, in three and a half years, we have

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<v Speaker 2>never done a whole episode on it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's rebounds. Thank you for taking the punch.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you took a golf there, and so I jumped

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<v Speaker 1>on in and I saw my opportunity.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, But the reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Why we're talking about rebounds is because we're heading into Christmas,

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<v Speaker 2>and Christmas period, like the summer period, is the highest

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<v Speaker 2>break up period of the entire year. Not to alarm anyone,

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<v Speaker 2>not to frighten anyone, but the most breakups happen in

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<v Speaker 2>the next couple of weeks heading into Christmas, which also

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<v Speaker 2>means that this is like prime rebound time of the

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<v Speaker 2>year where people are having a summer fling or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>having a transient relationship in between their next serious relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>So we wanted to kind of talk more about why

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<v Speaker 2>people have rebound relationships, but not just to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like poo pooh them, because I think mostly.

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<v Speaker 3>Poo pooh them's. Well, like you, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, whenever we talk about rebounds, I feel like mostly

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<v Speaker 2>the general consensus is that they're bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like if you were in doubt that Laura

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<v Speaker 3>spent the whole weekend at children's birthday, Marta, she just

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<v Speaker 3>reiterated it because you poo pooh your relationship. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to poo poo your rebound relationship. Okay, it's actually true.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is the time, unfortunately, that we all get those

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<v Speaker 1>dreaded texts that we don't want, not all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>but the old Hey, I think we need to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that we need to talk text. I would

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<v Speaker 3>hope not everyone is receiving them. I mean not everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>but the statistics are high. We saw that science. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of breakups at this time, which leads us

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<v Speaker 3>to a lot of rebounds. Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, just going back to what I was

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<v Speaker 2>saying in terms of like how it's often spoken about

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<v Speaker 2>with a negative lens. I think usually when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about rebounds, we are usually advising people not to get

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<v Speaker 2>into them, that rebounds are like a recipe of a disaster,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get your heart broken. But we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>take a bigger, deep dive into this topic and look

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<v Speaker 2>at what are some of the pros of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are and do find yourself in a rebound relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>what are some of the positives? How do you safeguard yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>How can you tell if you're in a rebound relationship?

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<v Speaker 2>And they're all the things that we're going to unpack

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<v Speaker 2>in a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, obviously, great sex is a positive from a rebound,

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<v Speaker 3>but not necessarily. You don't always get great sex in

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<v Speaker 3>a rebound relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're not hurting the other person because they're

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<v Speaker 2>just in it for sex, sometimes it's nice to have

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<v Speaker 2>a human band aid, But is.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting under them away to get over them? Well you'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to find out our opinion a bit later on.

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<v Speaker 3>How was that for a hook?

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<v Speaker 1>But it brings me to this article that I just

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<v Speaker 1>read Laura, and I think this is also so timely

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<v Speaker 1>because we're two weeks away from Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a new.

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<v Speaker 1>Term that I've seen pop up, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty accurate, and this is a warning to all those

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<v Speaker 1>singles out there. There's something called milestoning, which is this

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<v Speaker 1>new dating trend.

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<v Speaker 2>Rebounds and milestoning, this is a dating term.

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<v Speaker 1>It was ooined by Plenty of Fish and there's this

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<v Speaker 1>whole there's all these articles on it, and it goes

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<v Speaker 1>into all these other terms that have come up. We've

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<v Speaker 1>done dating terms before, but there are so many new ones.

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<v Speaker 1>But milestoning is the idea of people going out there

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<v Speaker 1>swiping furiously, wanting to match with people, wanting to date

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<v Speaker 1>people purely because a milestone is coming up and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be alone. In this case, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas period, Christmas, New Year's, Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>Parties, all the stuff that comes with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So almost three quarters, so seventy one percent of people

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<v Speaker 1>that were surveyed purposely increase their online dating activity ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of key milestones, including Christmas. This is because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be alone on those days.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's as black and white as though,

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<v Speaker 2>like when I say, I mean there's more to it.

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<v Speaker 3>When I say it, I mean as black and white.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like people don't sit down and purposely go like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to have a boyfriend for Christmas, so I

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<v Speaker 2>want to have a girlfriend for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 2>They're thinking about it in such an obvious way. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I think happens is that as these milestone's approach,

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<v Speaker 2>as Christmas comes, when you're single and you're wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>be in a relationship, it shines a spotlight on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's another day where you're like, oh, okay, I'm alone

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<v Speaker 2>again this Christmas. My life isn't where I had hoped

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<v Speaker 2>it would be.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I don't want to get a present.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you get a boyfriend so you can

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<v Speaker 2>just get a present, do you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's so much that it's this conscious

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I need to have a guy to bring home

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<v Speaker 2>to my Christmas lunch where Laura is going to make

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<v Speaker 2>terrible fucking ham. I think it's more a case of

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<v Speaker 2>just it shines a spotlight on something that you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to have in your life, so therefore you're kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>without realizing it, furiously swiping away. Well, Laura, funny you

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<v Speaker 2>say that, because I have some statistics on that too.

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<v Speaker 2>So research conducted by plenty of Phish members in the

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<v Speaker 2>UK reveals that the main motivations for increasing dating activity

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<v Speaker 2>during this festive season is to secure someone special.

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<v Speaker 3>For festive dates.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, so fifty one percent of people said it's just

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<v Speaker 1>to have a festive date. Twenty percent of people said

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<v Speaker 1>is to avoid being quizzed by family, Like they just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to face that shit, the question, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>just pretending they're with someone.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're like, I've got a boyfriend. His name's Sam

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<v Speaker 2>and we've been dating for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, exactly, And fourteen percent said it's gift giving

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<v Speaker 1>and receiving.

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<v Speaker 3>There's fourteen percent of people that were like, I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to present that would be you, that would be me,

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<v Speaker 3>and some physical affection.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's really interesting, But I do you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I remember, and as you guys know, I

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<v Speaker 2>did not spend a lot of time being single because

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<v Speaker 2>I was the real monkey brancher from relationship to relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do remember a New Year's where my.

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<v Speaker 2>Boyfriend the time had broken up with me early December,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was like, not only was the breakup super

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<v Speaker 2>super fresh, but it was the first time I had

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<v Speaker 2>been single in a really long time. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>had to head into Christmas single and then Christmas was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of okay, I think, but it was New Year.

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<v Speaker 1>Since I was pretty drunk, I'm blacked it out well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because I'm usually with my family anyway, So

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it wasn't like I had to have a

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend for Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was New Year's that felt really weird because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's so much emphasis that put into like

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<v Speaker 2>who are you going to kiss at midnight when it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the clock struck midnight And I remember being at

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<v Speaker 2>this party that year and thinking like.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck, like who's the lucky guy? Was like hunting them down.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there has to be someone literally trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>a guy to make out with on midnight.

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<v Speaker 3>So I wasn't alone. It's so weird. You've made what

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<v Speaker 3>a weird tradition?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you've made me picture not last year, year before

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<v Speaker 1>and when you were just telling your story about me

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<v Speaker 1>and years and like I pictured myself there I was

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<v Speaker 1>at this rooftop party with a bunch of my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but a bunch of people I didn't know as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you just looked at my back braces.

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<v Speaker 2>Brittany's wearing a back brace at the moment, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>making me feel like a hunchback. So I'm yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 2>wearing a posture brace, and I am the hunchback of

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<v Speaker 2>this relationship, so it's making me feel personally victimized.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, I remember it at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Rooftop party and everyone was going crazy, lots of you know, drinking, celebrating.

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<v Speaker 3>The countdown was on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're watching the firewakes from the rooftop and everyone's in

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<v Speaker 1>such good mood, and I was like, whoa jumping around

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<v Speaker 1>and ye, and then it was like three two and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like we were everyone's like and then everyone

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<v Speaker 1>turned to the person kids, and I was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're like trying to play cool, you the awkward

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<v Speaker 1>person dancing in.

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<v Speaker 3>The corner, You're like, whoo. That was like no one

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<v Speaker 3>to kiss me.

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<v Speaker 2>No one was left because you hadn't thought about it

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<v Speaker 2>before the clock struck midnight.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a fake dance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so you just you didn't think about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't plant it out. You hadn't picked the guy

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<v Speaker 2>or girl or whoever it is that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>make out with, and then you were left all alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you told me the end of that story that

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<v Speaker 1>you've left out, that you ended up making out with

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<v Speaker 1>someone that you had no attraction to, just so.

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<v Speaker 3>You could make out with someone, and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he was gross.

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<v Speaker 2>I made out with the guy that I would typically

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<v Speaker 2>never make out with, Like I've just I was not

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<v Speaker 2>attracted to him. We'd had nothing in common, nothing at all,

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<v Speaker 2>except that I needed to kiss someone because it was midnight.

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<v Speaker 3>What a fucking stupid tradition, That's all I have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Very typically Laura, but desperately needy of me that I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be alone.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time, I was in my twenties, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>learned a lot since then.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was thinking about like these reasons, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty percent for the dates, twenty excent for the because

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<v Speaker 1>I found I was like, what would my reason be?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be quized by the family. But

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<v Speaker 1>my main reason for one, my main reason for wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to bring someone to like all these special events and

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<v Speaker 1>the holidays is because I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>The only person as single. I always get the shit room.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the camper bed in the lounge room because

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<v Speaker 1>there's no rooms left. I'm at the end, I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the lounge. I'm always a person that's like, oh, she's

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<v Speaker 1>on her own, so we'll put her anywhere. If I

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<v Speaker 1>went with a partner, i'd get a room, I'd get

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<v Speaker 1>a bedroom. But all the partners and couples, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you go on a holiday, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>go on a vaca, you're on Airbnb or wherever you are,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone gets the main rooms. If you're a couple, and

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<v Speaker 1>they get the rooms with the on suites. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>being put at the base on like a little trundle

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<v Speaker 1>bed of Sheridan and Jay's bed and Who's romantic getaway

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to sleep horizontally at there like I

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<v Speaker 1>was their child.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but to be fair, Jay and Sherry didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>you at the base of their bed either, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>really impeded on their.

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<v Speaker 3>Time to have a good time. Look, I'm the victim here.

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<v Speaker 2>This leads us into what we're talking about on next

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<v Speaker 2>week's episode. So if you're single, or you're somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>finds the holiday periods particularly lonely or particularly challenging, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna love next Tuesday's episode.

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<v Speaker 3>You are not alone if you have that feeling. Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>We're interviewing a neuropsychologist, doctor Hannah Corral, and she is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be talking about all of that stuff, So

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're gonna unpack that more for next

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<v Speaker 2>week's episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but also off the back.

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<v Speaker 1>Of this new term milestoning, there are a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>other terms that they put out, and I thought some

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<v Speaker 1>of them were really funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know that it's almost every six months there's

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<v Speaker 2>new dating terminology, like a new dating lexicon that's brought

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<v Speaker 2>out into the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for it because they're usually really punny, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm jealous that I didn't think of the pun.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, what is the next one?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, there's one that I quite resonated with, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. It was called click baying. So instead of clickbaiting,

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<v Speaker 1>click baying like b ae bay a habitual swiper who

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<v Speaker 1>is always clicking or swiping on dating profiles rather than

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<v Speaker 1>actually engaging in any form of conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>That's me, I've been doing that. I thought that that

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<v Speaker 3>was also just like a time waster.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's cuter when it's Hey, I'm aclickbayer. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it's way cer to that I'm a time waste.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just go in you like everyone, well, not everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>You like people that you think you could potentially match,

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<v Speaker 2>You get the ego boost of the match, but then

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<v Speaker 2>you never speak to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's.

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<v Speaker 1>The ego boost, right, I think what I do when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm online dating, it's quite sporadic. My my highs and lows.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I'm on a high and I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, get back out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely going on a date this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I go on, I obviously ferociously swipe match people, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when they come back to me, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>On the low and I'm like, can't be bothered anymore. No,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you come to your senses and you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't date.

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<v Speaker 3>Any of these Basically, Sometimes I'm like, how did that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Was an accident? I was desperate need.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing as well is and I know so

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<v Speaker 2>many people who are online dating have experienced this. I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it in the Facebook groups so many times. I

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<v Speaker 2>experienced it myself. There are some people out there who

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<v Speaker 2>when you do that, who when you match with them

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<v Speaker 2>but then don't speak to them, they take it really

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<v Speaker 2>personal and they get really angry, and they think a

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<v Speaker 2>normal thing to do is to school you on why

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't spoken back to them. Also, it's never gonna work,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what person has ever sent you like a passag

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<v Speaker 2>message about how you didn't write back to them and

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<v Speaker 2>then it makes you go, oh, I'm so sorry, Sam,

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<v Speaker 2>I meant to write back to you. Hey, haven't we

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<v Speaker 2>got on a lovely date after you just spoke to

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<v Speaker 2>me like I'm a child.

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<v Speaker 3>We did have that one listener writing once there.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we read out the thread she put it

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<v Speaker 1>in the life on Cut discussion group. Remember she had

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<v Speaker 1>a full on brawl online with the online data and

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<v Speaker 1>she went back at him and they had a full

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<v Speaker 1>on conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>So sometimes it doesn't happen and they ended up on

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<v Speaker 3>a date and no, oh no it didn't work, but

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<v Speaker 3>he got their eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other one that was like the perfect match

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<v Speaker 1>for this conversation, Like it could not be more perfect

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<v Speaker 1>for what we're talking about today.

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<v Speaker 3>It's called one eighty dating.

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<v Speaker 1>This is rebounding from a recent breakup by starting a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with a younger, unexpected partner. Think of Olivia Wilde

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<v Speaker 1>and Kim Kardashian. This also, I feel like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit me like the younger partner, the unexpected like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel I feel a litle bit Okay, I feel very seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, how young do you think you would go? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your young what's your limit?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I wouldn't go any younger than what I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty six, twenty five, No, I couldn't do it. Twenty sure,

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<v Speaker 2>the more legal.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thirty five now, so twenty five ten years a

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<v Speaker 3>young is too young. It's just too young because they're

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<v Speaker 3>in a different life face.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends what it was, I guess, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go out sing Pokemon go.

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<v Speaker 1>It's way too young for me now. Absolutely, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I don't have you know what. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to put a number on it because people

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<v Speaker 1>are different. Some people are really mature, some people are

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<v Speaker 1>really good looking, and age doesn't matter, and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>put a number on it because age eventually means nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that I really do believe that would I want to

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<v Speaker 1>date someone ridiculously younger than me. No, purely because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're at different points of your life. Emotional

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<v Speaker 1>maturity is very different that often you're not on the

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<v Speaker 1>same level.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I think, I mean this might be a stereotype.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably is a stereotype, and I'll probably take it back,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even edit it out.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Year old women are often more mature than twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>year old men. I think that's true obviously, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's very heteronormative, being gender typed. But I think in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of when we're talking about heterosexual relationships, where I

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<v Speaker 2>was at twenty five, verse where my partners were at

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, I think was a pretty there was a

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<v Speaker 2>big caveat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we do know, we know that men generally

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<v Speaker 1>grow up a little bit slower. They do want to

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<v Speaker 1>stay Peter Pans for a bit longer.

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<v Speaker 3>Depends on what area they're from.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it depends that this is a blanket statement

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<v Speaker 1>of cause, but we know this is actually it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a blanket statement. We do know men do mature later,

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<v Speaker 1>like that isn't a blanket statement, but it's just how

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<v Speaker 1>long it takes them. Usually by twenty five, you'd hope

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<v Speaker 1>they were there, but often they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, let's get into our favorite part of

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<v Speaker 2>every episode, and that is accidentally unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I am going.

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<v Speaker 2>To kick this off because I thought that this was

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<v Speaker 2>cute and funny and dear God, here we go. Worst

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<v Speaker 2>thing that was said to me during sex. I was

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<v Speaker 2>having sex with this guy and he asked if we

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<v Speaker 2>could do a sixty niner. It was a pretty mediocre sex,

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<v Speaker 2>but I thought, oh well, why not over and let's

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<v Speaker 2>just get on with it. I love the lack of

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<v Speaker 2>enthusiasm here. Actually I don't love it at all, Like

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<v Speaker 2>when you're like, it's pretty mediocre sex, but we thought,

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.600
<v Speaker 2>what the heck, let's just give it this a try. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So she rolls over, she does a sixty nine er.

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<v Speaker 2>After the sex, we're sitting on the couch and he

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<v Speaker 2>looks at me like a child and says, I saw

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<v Speaker 2>your butthole lolls like a child. To this day, whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I have sex or even just shave my booty hole,

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<v Speaker 2>all I can think of is this guy's little beady

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<v Speaker 2>eyes sitting there staring at me and looking at my

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<v Speaker 2>secret star. Not to mention, his dogs were both watching

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<v Speaker 2>the entire time we had sex because he refused to

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<v Speaker 2>put them in the other room.

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<v Speaker 3>No how old is this guy. I just love that

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 3>she calls her asshole a secret star and the dog's watching.

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<v Speaker 3>No put them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially there's two of them, but I saw your buttthole. Haha,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. We literally just spoke about emotional maturity of men.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a priming guy I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine that.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine just like after sex, sitting on the couch, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like your time to like, you know, maybe you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Maybe you're going to talk about watching suits.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you're gonna do sexy cardile, whatever you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do. Imagine a full grown man turning to you

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<v Speaker 2>and saying, I saw your butthole.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so your butthole fuck? All right? Well, speaking of buttholes,

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<v Speaker 3>mine has nothing to do with it. My kaboodle loves

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<v Speaker 3>to get into my.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirty clothes basket and lick the crutch of my undies. Gross,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, But unbeknownst to me, he tipped over the

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<v Speaker 1>entire basket and had scattered my licked crutch undies.

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<v Speaker 3>All through my room.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't notice until after the male property valuer that

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<v Speaker 1>we had organized to come out and look at the

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>property came in took photos of the entire house, including

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<v Speaker 1>my room that was littered with my lick fielled crutch undies.

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<v Speaker 1>I am absolutely dead. I'm happy to note though we

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<v Speaker 1>did get a really good increase in the value, so

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that held.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what I'm not. I'm just bombity gross

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<v Speaker 3>that your dog licks at I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>No dogs are some sem doo. Yeah, but put a

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<v Speaker 2>lid on it, like put a lid on the basket.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Also, imagine the poor I always think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine the poor property value that's coming around, Like stepping

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<v Speaker 1>over these underpants that are.

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<v Speaker 3>Lit it all over the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>They also probably look like the crushes being chewed out

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Imagine if they don't assume, not yet they

0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>imagine if you don't assume that it's your dog, and

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<v Speaker 2>they think that a human did that. Even All right,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into the really insightful chatting around rebounds. So

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<v Speaker 2>we are talking about rebound relationships. And now, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I've had one, I've been in one, I've done it

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<v Speaker 2>to many other people. But have you ever okay, have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever trying to think if you did it recently

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 2>but you didn't. Have you ever come out of a

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<v Speaker 2>long term relationship and then jump straight back into something

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.680
<v Speaker 2>knowing full well that they're just a buffer.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, I haven't had that many long term relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am going to say I.

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<v Speaker 3>Have had two. I really dug deep in my memory

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<v Speaker 3>for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had two rebounds okay, where I have gone looking

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>for the rebound relationship. I think I've probably been the

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.960
<v Speaker 1>rebound as well. But I have had two that were very,

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<v Speaker 1>very different. Okay, I had one rebound where it was

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<v Speaker 1>off the back of my sociopathic X right, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a wild two years.

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<v Speaker 3>You were like, let's feel this trauma. I was like,

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 3>there is a big gaping holeway you know, I'm not

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:24.040
<v Speaker 3>talking about the mum Jesus Christ springing. Holy Sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just trying to make a sick joke.

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>No, I was like, there's a big gaping traumatic hole here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've only really had two that I can think of.

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<v Speaker 3>Now. I have been the person.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been someone else's rebound for sure, like one hundred percent,

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>without doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that I have field of space for someone else.

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>But there's been two big ones where I have intentionally

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>and unintentionally used someone as a rebound.

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Now, the first one intentionally and unintentionally. It's so bad

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.880
<v Speaker 2>when you do it intentionally, but sometimes you can't help it.

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, do you know what? It's funny because it's hurt people,

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<v Speaker 3>hurt people.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't yeah, exactly, I didn't know it was intentional, right.

0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 3>That came to me late.

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I didn't go out saying I'm going to find a rebound.

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>But what did happen was it was off the back.

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>The first one was off the back of my two

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<v Speaker 1>year relationship with my sociopathic ex Episode three.

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Ever, if you're new to the podcast and you don't

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.120
<v Speaker 3>know about it, the audio quality is terrible in that episode,

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:17.360
<v Speaker 3>but the story is very good. The info's there.

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 1>But it was two years and it was very a

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>very very traumatic ending. Not long after that, I reckon

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it must have only been six weeks I met someone else. Okay,

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:31.359
<v Speaker 1>six weeks of trauma and I met somebody at work.

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>It was also, funnily enough, long distance. He was actually

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>a doctor that I'd met at work, and he lived elsewhere.

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>He lived in Sydney, and I was important quarry fast forward.

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 3>He was moving back to Sydney.

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>So this was great for me because I thought we

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 1>had a couple of weeks together to get to know

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>each other, kind of hang out.

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Then he was going away.

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 2>And this is only six weeks after a really big breakup,

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>after the biggest breakup.

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And you guys, a lot of you that are following

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>along at home for a long time, you're going to

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>know this story, but you're not going to realize that

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it was the rebound story.

0:28:58.520 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 3>We were long distance for a.

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Little while, and I completely now look back, I feel

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.080
<v Speaker 1>bad I used him without knowing because it was attention.

0:29:05.360 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 1>It was taking my mind away from what I had

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>just been through and from the hurt and the embarrassment,

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the disbelief. I wanted to be someone else, be somewhere else.

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I wanted someone to give me attention to make me

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>feel good. It was so when I look back, it

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>was so unwell and I was not in a place

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>to do that that we entered into this relationship. He

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>told me he'd love me after five weeks, like it

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.080
<v Speaker 1>was a love bombing. And then he and I ended

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 1>up going on this trip overseas together after a couple of.

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 3>Months, and he's that I know, I had this five.

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Week trip planned, I know who this is, yes, and

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to come along, and I was.

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Like, and I think that's a good idea.

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>He absolutely wanted to, so I was like, fine, planned

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a whole five week trip and we got there three

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:49.920
<v Speaker 1>days in or something in Vegas.

0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 3>And that's when I got a multitude of things. I

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 3>got the ick.

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I realized I didn't actually like him that much. I

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>realized that he had without me meaning to be he

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>was a bit of a filler.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>The rebound.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I actually left him in Vegas and I didn't see

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>him again.

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 3>You didged the rebound. I rebounded.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I ricocheted off that rebound and I was out of

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>there and I saw him again like four years later.

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>That was it. I ran into him at work in

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>a different city four years later, and I didn't know

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 3>at the time.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 1>And I feel horrible saying it, but I'm being this

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 1>really good human that's reflecting back and owning my mistakes.

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Why he was my rebound.

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 2>No, but the thing is, and okay, we hold you guys,

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:26.040
<v Speaker 2>we put it out at the brains.

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<v Speaker 3>Trust.

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>The thing is is, sometimes even when you are like

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 2>the person that you're dating, you've come out of a breakup,

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 2>you've come out of like a you know, a shitty breakup, breakdown,

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, and you start dating again. Sometimes you

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 2>don't even realize that that person is.

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 3>A rebound for you.

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes when you are the rebound, you don't know

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 2>that you're the rebound. So the reason why we wanted

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 2>to unpack this is because like, what are the signs,

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 2>How do you know if you're dying IT symptoms?

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 3>How do you know if you are one?

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 2>We thought we could unpack all of that, but by

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 2>large and far, we pld you. And it's so obvious

0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>that this is something that's so many many people have experienced.

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 2>So we asked the question, have you been in a

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 2>rebound relationship? And sixty three percent of you said yes,

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 2>that you have, and thirty seven percent said no.

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 3>That to me is wild. I feel like everyone's been

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 3>in a rebound relationship at some point.

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I reckon, they haven't figured it out yet, maybe

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>like they need the beauty of hindsight. I've spoken so

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 2>much about my time when I was single and dating

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>and how I monkey branch from relationship to relationship. I

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>would go so far as to say that I almost

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>had a rebound after every big breakup because for me,

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I used being in not necessarily in a relationship, but

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>I use dating as a way of getting over my

0:31:34.760 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>feelings and not even getting over them. I used dating

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 2>as a way of not having to deal with my feelings.

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 2>That was kind of I didn't like being in that

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:44.880
<v Speaker 2>space of being sad and being suffering, so I was like, oh,

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 2>give me attention, you new person, and it usually would

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 2>fizzle out and not work out. And looking back, with

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 2>the beauty of hindsight, I now understand exactly what I

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>was doing.

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>But do you think, Laura, that there could be a

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>level of confusion with what you were doing. Are they

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>all rebounds or is there a difference with a rebound

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and just wanting to fill a space within you that's

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a rebound, but maybe you were insecure and

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be on your own because I think

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a different Oh.

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 3>There's loads of things that were a problem loaded. Yeah,

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 3>it was problematically loaded. There are many parts of this

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 3>that were like not healthy.

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 2>No, okay, I think for me because a lot of

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 2>them came after really long term relationships like I had

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 2>a six year relationship, I had a three year relationship,

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I was a.

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 3>And she's on me eighteen at this point, Well, no,

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I started dating my first No. I literally went a

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 2>two year relationship, a six year relationship, a three year relationship,

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 2>a one year relationship, like I.

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Went by twelve or thirteen years there.

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.959
<v Speaker 2>I was never single, and when I was single, I

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>was always dating somebody. Like looking back, I now I

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>can see how problematic that was in my twenties, and

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 2>but like at the time, I couldn't see it, like

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>there was no I just thought that that was normal

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>to always kind of like have someone be dating someone And.

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you were taking when you went

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>into these new relationships. Did you feel like you were

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>taking the baggage from the relationship you're rebounding off into it,

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>or do you feel like you had this really clear

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.800
<v Speaker 1>distinction where you're like, I don't have to take that in.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I can leave it and move forward. Oh no, no,

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Like to be clear, some of the this is so bad,

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 3>it should be clear.

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Some of the relationships were like I went from one

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 2>long term to another, but some of them I dated

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 2>other people in between. But those other people in between

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>were very much the rebounds. Like you know, I got

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 2>back on Tinder almost straight away after a breakup, and

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>then I would meet some like lovely, pleasant guy who

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I had absolutely no real strong feelings for, but he

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 2>probably thought I did because that's how I navigated might

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 2>hurt at the time. But you know, okay, so many

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>people do it, and we're not here to say that

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 2>it's either good or bad. I think normally the conversation

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 2>surrounding rebounds is that it's inherently a bad thing to do, right,

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's very one sided, because I

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 2>do think that there are many reasons why people get

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>into rebound relationships. I also think there are many ways

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>in which rebounds can be healthy, so long as you're

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>not being an absolute effing asshole and like emotionally you

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 2>using somebody just to kind of, you know, make yourself

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 2>feel better. So I think like we can unpack some

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 2>of the reasons why we think rebound relationships can be useful.

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>But then I also think we need to talk about like,

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 2>if you are dating and you really like someone and

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>they are freshly out of a relationship, how do you

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>know if you are simply a rebound or if they

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.360
<v Speaker 2>are truly invested in you.

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because there's.

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>This saying, right, and it's funny and I used to

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>love it, but I don't necessarily think it's true. Oh

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you might say, well you under someone, you have to

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 1>get under someone. You know that we always used to

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>say that you know when all your friends are when

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you go through a breakup, you're like, oh, well, you know,

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 1>get back on the horse to get over them.

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 3>You got to get under them.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 1>As I get older, I realize that that's not true.

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that can make you feel even worse.

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but there's always going to be someone. Like, everyone

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 2>who goes through a breakup is going to eventually fuck

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>someone new. It doesn't mean that that person is going

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 2>to be a rebound, right Like, it doesn't mean that

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 2>just because somebody comes after a breakup, that's not exclusively

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.720
<v Speaker 2>what makes someone a rebound. The only time that someone

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 2>is a rebound is if the person who is choosing

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 2>to start dating again isn't over their ex.

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the whole issue, right And I guess it's kind

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>of trying to figure out if you are somebody who

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 2>started dating and your new partner is very very freshly

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>out of a relationship, what are the telltale signs that

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe they're not over the relationship.

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And this brings me to my second rebound, which

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>was only this year, right off the back of my

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>relationship with Jordan. It wasn't a quick rebound. It was

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>a couple of months and it wasn't intentional. I started

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to date this person accidentally because I thought I was

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>on a business meeting with him.

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 3>But it was a date, So it was a real

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 3>accidental fall in. You thought you were on a business

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 3>meeting and it was a date. Yeah, He asked, did

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 3>you think he tricked you? Were you like at the time?

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Were you like, fuck you? This is a date. I

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 3>thought you were going to sell with you. Well, it's well, yeah,

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 3>it happened very accidentally.

0:35:57.360 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a miscommunication and he was asking

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 1>me out, but I thought he was asking me for

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>a meeting about work, and our wires were very very cool.

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Did you take your laptop? Yes? Not in the first one.

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Actually we went we were doing a walk and then

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 3>you're like, why are you inside me? This seems very inappropriate?

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 3>What's going on that? Yeah? It was.

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>It was an accident, right because I wasn't ready to date.

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I knew that I wasn't online dating. I wasn't actively

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>looking for it, so I one hundred percent feel into it.

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 1>But then when we met, we got along, so I thought,

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll go on a few dates. He ended

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>up being very invested in it, and I wasn't, and

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I ended up being really honest with him. He was like,

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>really want to be with you, and I said, I

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>enjoy hanging out with you, but I love my ex still, Like,

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I just want you to know that this is where

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm at. And I told him that I was really

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 1>honest with him, and I said, I don't think this

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>is going to work because I still have feelings for

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>my ex and I'm not past it.

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 3>And what was his response to this? Yeah, it doesn't matter.

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 3>This is the thing though, okay, right.

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 2>The thing with that is you gave him a gift,

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 2>and this is what happens a lot in rebound relationships.

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 2>You gave him the truth, you said. And I think

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>that this happens so much, but we want to be

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 2>blind to it.

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>You could get into a new relationship and someone might

0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>say to you point blank, hey, i'm freshly out of

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 2>a relationship. I'm not looking for anything serious, and majority

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>of us see that as I will change their mind.

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 2>And that is exactly what this insert name here man

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.280
<v Speaker 2>did to you. You gave him the gift of honesty.

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 2>He didn't have to try and figure out how you felt.

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 2>He was like, oh, she's still in love with her ex.

0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 2>So if he was actually going to go, okay, one

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>plus one equals I'm a rebound relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are you saying, I don't know. Are you

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:35.200
<v Speaker 3>trying to say that he was stoked on that?

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 2>No, what I'm saying is is that like he should

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 2>have known in that that he was a rebound and

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 2>therefore if he got hurt as a result of it,

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.000
<v Speaker 2>of him putting in effort and energy when you're saying

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 2>to him, I don't want anything because I'm still in

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.279
<v Speaker 2>love with my ex, It's like we do have to

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 2>take a bit of responsibility for how we feel, because

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I think in that instance, if he was so invested

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 2>in you and really wanted a relationship with you, but

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 2>you're telling him I'm in love with my ex still,

0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 2>he should have gone, I'm gonna walk away from this

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:07.760
<v Speaker 2>because this is not a healthy position.

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>This is not something He's only a human, yes, exactly,

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:11.479
<v Speaker 1>and aren't we all.

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 2>But that's the thing, right, I think, like, sometimes you

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>will be dating someone and they will give you all

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 2>the information, they will tell you that you're a rebound

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.200
<v Speaker 2>without telling you that you're a rebound, and other times

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 2>you have to try and figure it out for yourself

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 2>with the signs and you know, whatever other things they're doing.

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:28.880
<v Speaker 2>So let's say you're dating someone they've just come out

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 2>of a long term relationship, and you're trying to figure out,

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.560
<v Speaker 2>am I a rebound or maybe that relationship had been

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:37.680
<v Speaker 2>well and truly dead, like maybe they had been you know,

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 2>he'd been wanting to leave it for a year or

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 2>something prior, so in his mind, he's so ready to

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 2>start dating again because he'd already done the breakup while

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 2>he was in the relationship. It can be really hard

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>to kind of differentiate what the two is. And I

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 2>think one of the biggest red flags if somebody is

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:54.320
<v Speaker 2>not over their ex is the fact that they fucking

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>talk about their ex all the time.

0:38:56.960 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 1>But it's like, we talked about this, like in the

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>last week or two, we've been speaking about the fact

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that it can be a challenge. And when you do

0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>say to someone like I'm not really interested, it makes

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the chase harder, right, It makes you want them more

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>because you're like, oh, they're saying that, but I know

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that I can wear them down, and I.

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:13.759
<v Speaker 3>Know I'll be the one that brings them back, And

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 3>I say wear them down, like we should all be

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 3>better by now.

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 2>This is three hundred and forty episodes, I know, but we're.

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Still learning more of our Life's a journey and it's

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 1>not linear, and healing's not linear, and break ups aren't linear,

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and rebounds are definitely not linear.

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.719
<v Speaker 3>Rebounds are not linear. Okay.

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Circling back to this idea that like, they're not always

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 2>a bad thing. The reason why they're not always a

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 2>bad thing is it comes down to your emotional investment

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>right from both parties. If you are just after casual sex,

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and when I say this, I mean like the person

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:45.960
<v Speaker 2>who's not just come out of long term relationship, the

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 2>person who's you know, started dating someone who's come out

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.680
<v Speaker 2>of a long term relationship. If you're just after sex,

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.240
<v Speaker 2>if you're after something casual, if you're just after having fun,

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 2>then it's okay to have that with somebody who's just

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>come out of a long term relationship. If anything, you

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 2>were doing God's work. You're making them emotionally feel better

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and you're getting your needs met at the same time.

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 1>There's the idea of we know sex makes us feel good.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>You get your endorphin hit, you get your dopamine hit.

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:13.439
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of science behind that. The only way

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.720
<v Speaker 1>that this can be good is if you one hundred

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 1>percent aren't completely obsessed with your ex, because you feel

0:40:18.840 --> 0:40:19.840
<v Speaker 1>good for about ten.

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Minutes if you like two, two to three.

0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>But if you're lucky, you've got ten minutes of dopamine

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and endorphins, and then you're left. In my experience, you're

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>left feeling a bit more lonely and a bit a

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>bit more sad than you were beforehand.

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Because you kind of just wish that that person you

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>had sex with was your ex.

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, and then they go right because you're not

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, So are you going to sleep with

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>them or you have dinner with them? Because it doesn't

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>have to just be sex, right you haven't. You could

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 1>have an emotional connection physical. They could be playing with

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 1>your hair, you could just be getting that hit that

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.959
<v Speaker 1>you're missing from your past relationship. They're going to go home,

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 1>like they're not going to live with you forever. When

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 1>they go, you feel that emptiness again, and sometimes you

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:57.320
<v Speaker 1>feel tenfold because you're like, Wow, we're our own worst enemies.

0:40:57.360 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>We get inside our head and we start to do

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 1>this negative self talk. It's like, oh, look, someone else's left. No,

0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you're not good enough for them. You know, there's this

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>idea we really want to bring ourselves down. So I

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>think sex is only a positive thing in these situations

0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.680
<v Speaker 1>when it's not completely fresh.

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I think it's a distraction. I think

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 3>it depends on the person.

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean, And that's why I guess it comes down

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>to this idea that and it's another sign right of

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 2>being a rebound, is when things move so quickly, like

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 2>when that person wants to spend all their time with you,

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 2>when they want to fill all their free time with you,

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 2>And part of it is because they're so fucking lonely

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 2>when they're not with someone that you become the thing,

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.480
<v Speaker 2>like the band aid that makes them feel better. So, yeah,

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 2>they feel great when they're with you. And it's not

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>to say that they don't have any feelings for you

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:46.600
<v Speaker 2>or don't want any connection with you, but it's it

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:48.800
<v Speaker 2>also means that you're serving a purpose, which is to

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of numb their feelings of loneliness. And have you

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 2>ever kind of been in a situation like a rebound

0:41:55.000 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 2>where things went so quickly past the dating phase? Okay,

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 2>one comes to mind, No, No one comes to mind.

0:42:03.400 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So this is many years ago. I had a friend

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.879
<v Speaker 2>and he'd just come out of a marriage, right, Like,

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.359
<v Speaker 2>so his marriage had broken down, his wife left him

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:15.919
<v Speaker 2>and he was heartbroken. And then, weirdly, actually it's quite

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:17.919
<v Speaker 2>similar to your story, he asked me out for dinner

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 2>this one day and I thought it was a friend

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 2>date and it turned out to be a date date.

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 2>And then we had sex, and like it just all

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>fucking happened. It was I mean, like I didn't have

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 2>sex with my accidental date. You just went straight it no,

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.200
<v Speaker 2>not anyway or whatever. It spired out of control, Okay,

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, we then skipped the dating part.

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Like he never really took me out on a date.

0:42:36.560 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 2>He was like, hey, you want to come over and

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 2>watch a movie, You want to go to Kohl's and

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 2>pick up I was like, we skipped dating and we

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.440
<v Speaker 2>started doing the things that I think he would have

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:45.280
<v Speaker 2>done with his wife.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Like you went straight to the comfort zone. Yeah, we

0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:49.200
<v Speaker 1>were like straight four months zone.

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like straight into being his replacement person. And

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 2>it was to me it was so obvious that he

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 2>was not over his wife, because he spoke about her.

0:42:58.000 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 3>All the time.

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was not that in to it anyway,

0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 2>So it was kind of fine, but like it was

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 2>just so obvious to me that I was the rebound

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 2>in that situation, and I ended up being like, look,

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 2>you've got a few things that you need to work on,

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>which is like your emotions.

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Were you happy to sit in that rebound situation for

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.279
<v Speaker 3>a little while? I was trying to figure out whether

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 3>I actually liked the guy or not.

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.280
<v Speaker 2>And then, to be honest, I think because I knew

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>that I was so much of a rebound for him

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 2>that I myself couldn't then kind of it didn't progress

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 2>for me either, because I had my walls up too.

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, let's go back for a bit though,

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 2>For anybody who is freshly in a relationship or freshly

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 2>started dating someone, I should say, and they are fresh

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>out of a relationship, how do you know if you're

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 2>the rebound? Let's go through a few other key indicators

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 2>that might suggest apart from just the fact that they

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 2>talk about their ex and also they want to take

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:45.720
<v Speaker 2>it straight to like comfy dating space.

0:43:45.800 --> 0:43:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, when they call you their ex's name in sex,

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 3>got's a sign, big red sign. I've done that one before.

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 2>You called someone Jordan no, the long, long, long, long

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:56.720
<v Speaker 2>long time ago, Jesus Christ. That would make for great

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 2>content if you had called someone.

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 3>No, this was there. This was the first lot of rebound. Yeah,

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 3>and it went down like a lead balloon, like a

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 3>sack of potatoes. I understand why.

0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 1>It was not good, but that was again because because

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>that was the person I was thinking about, Like I

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:10.120
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about my ex.

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to be with anyone else.

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to be in that situation, but I

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>was forcing myself to to pull myself away from like

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the wave of sadness that I felt. M Well, okay,

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of the other signs. Some of

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the other signs might include that they struggle to open

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>up emotionally, like they won't give you or talk about

0:44:28.080 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>like you know, what they want. It may be that

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>they say that they're not ready for a relationship or

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>anything serious yet. I think that that's a pretty telltale

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 1>sign that someone's not moved beyond their past relationship. It

0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>could be that the relationship itself doesn't have a lot

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:46.240
<v Speaker 1>of emotional connection, but it is really sexual and physically connected,

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>because yeah, I mean, like it's one thing to have

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>a sexual chemistry and sexual connection with someone.

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a very different thing to like want to date someone.

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 2>So if you've started dating someone and they are only

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 2>inviting you over for hangs and bangs and they're not

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 2>actually dating you, They're not taking up for dinner, they're

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 2>not going and doing nice things and not introducing you

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 2>to their friends, all of that could indicate that they're

0:45:06.719 --> 0:45:09.720
<v Speaker 2>not actually over their ex yet. And have they committed

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.560
<v Speaker 2>to any long term plans with you? I think is

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 2>another big one as well, because it feel like.

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 1>You're just just describing like every man in Sydney from

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:17.879
<v Speaker 1>twenty five to forty five.

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 2>But if people won't commit to anything long term, not

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 2>only does that mean that maybe you're just a situational

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 2>relationship for them, it also can indicate that maybe you know,

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 2>they're just using you to fill a hole for that

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:30.120
<v Speaker 2>period of time.

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And rebound relationships.

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 1>You could be in a really rebound relationship like in

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>my situation, where one person really likes them, they can

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:41.400
<v Speaker 1>evolve into real relationship. If a relationship starts as a rebound,

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to just sit in that space. It

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to stay in that category.

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but what has to change, because I think that's

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 2>the big thing, right because most people who do get

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 2>into rebounds.

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:52.360
<v Speaker 3>For example, the guy that was dating you, that was

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 3>hoping that you would change your mind, Well, it has

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 3>to change. What changes?

0:45:56.239 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it has to change from a reactionary relationship to

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:03.759
<v Speaker 1>a really healthy, loving relationship. And that's probably only going

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to change with a lot of patience from the other person,

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:08.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of honest communication, and a lot of work

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>on yourself. And that's what I think is important. I

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 1>could have continued down that track and worked on myself

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and not gotten too serious too quickly,

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>with him constantly being honest saying I'm not ready to

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.239
<v Speaker 1>take my time, this is too much. You need to

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.160
<v Speaker 1>back off. And I did do that for a while,

0:46:23.200 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 1>but my feelings didn't grow, and that's the reason I

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 1>cut it off. But a lot of people can be

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>in these rebounds and time. You know this old saying

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that time heals all wounds. Time definitely helps one hundred percent,

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>But so does being in different situations and different relationships

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and meeting new people, because sometimes what it takes to

0:46:42.120 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 1>move on from an X is to discover that it's

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>not the end of the world and there are other

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.120
<v Speaker 1>people out there. And the reason I say that is

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've all been in that situation where

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>you've gone through a really horrible breakup. Maybe it's someone

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that you thought was your entire world, you saw your

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 1>whole life together. You go through that breakup, and as

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.800
<v Speaker 1>we know, it's very traumatic, and it can be a

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.359
<v Speaker 1>whole level of grief and healing that has to come

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>along with it. But then you can get into this

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>feeling of well, I'm never gonna find anyone again. No

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>one's ever gonna be as good as this person was.

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna get along with someone as well. No

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 1>one's gonna love me for how I am again, I'm

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna be alone forever. We're getting into these feelings. So

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you get into a rebound relationship or you

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:25.760
<v Speaker 1>start to date again, you realize, oh, hang on a minute,

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.359
<v Speaker 1>I can feel happiness again. Someone is interested in me again.

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I am getting these butterflies again. It makes

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you realize that there is light at the end of

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>the tunnel and you can move on, so they don't

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 1>always have to be looked at with this really negative outview.

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that that's so important britt because

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I know there'll be so many people listening to this

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 2>who maybe are in relationships now and they are fucking awesome,

0:47:49.120 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 2>great relationships.

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:51.960
<v Speaker 3>However they were.

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Born out of being a rebound, or maybe their friends

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 2>or their families saw their partners as like, oh, that's

0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.399
<v Speaker 2>just a rebound that's never gonna last, and then they

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:03.440
<v Speaker 2>proved everybody wrong. I definitely think that exists, but I

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 2>do think it goes through a transition. At some point,

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 2>it has to stop being a rebound, obviously, because you're

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 2>no longer like invested in your ex and it becomes

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>something that's a.

0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Very real and like genuine relationship.

0:48:14.600 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I think the big defining factor of that, though, is

0:48:17.040 --> 0:48:19.800
<v Speaker 2>it's whether or not if you're the person who's the rebound,

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:22.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, like the person who's not the heartbroken one,

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 2>how patient you can be, how much you can withstand,

0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 2>And that also comes down to how the other person behaves,

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 2>because there are some people who will get into quote

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 2>unquote rebound relationships and then within two or three months

0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 2>of seeing somebody, they have a new girlfriend. They've put

0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 2>a definition around it. They're actually in a committed relationship

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's starting to form into a real relationship that

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 2>has its own future, and then there's other people who

0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 2>will be the rebound and it will just stay in

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:51.359
<v Speaker 2>this like arbitrary nothingness for a really long time, and

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 2>the other person will never ever commit because they don't

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.399
<v Speaker 2>actually see that in that other person. I think we've

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 2>talked about the positives of being in a rebound relationship

0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 2>quite a bit, and like, obviously it is not just

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:04.200
<v Speaker 2>a positive thing, like it's very possible that if you're

0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 2>in a rebound that you're going to get hurt. But

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I think some of the other negatives that are less

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 2>talked about than just like, oh, you're going to get

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 2>your heart broken being in a rebound relationship. And I

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.600
<v Speaker 2>think the really important one is for people like me

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:18.360
<v Speaker 2>who monkey branch into or have in the past, monkey

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 2>branch into new relationships, you really devoid yourself the opportunity

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 2>of personal growth by giving zero time in between relationships.

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 2>You don't have any time to have that sort of

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 2>self reflection or introspective moments where you go, well, why

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 2>didn't that work out, and how do I be a

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 2>better person and how do I be more independent? You

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:41.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of just move your relationship junk from one relationship.

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.839
<v Speaker 1>To another one, another one to another one, and it's

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:44.879
<v Speaker 1>more like, what do I really want from life? Where

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>do I want to envitally? Do I want a different path?

0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Was I on the right trajectory?

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:50.319
<v Speaker 2>And it also means that you kind of end up

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:54.359
<v Speaker 2>settling because you haven't really gone out and waited and

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 2>looked for like the best option for you. You've just kind

0:49:57.800 --> 0:49:59.719
<v Speaker 2>of settled for the next option that came along that

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.239
<v Speaker 2>was utable at the time. So I do think that

0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 2>sometimes rebounds they can result in you settling for less

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:08.360
<v Speaker 2>than what you're worth just because you didn't want to

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:08.840
<v Speaker 2>be alone.

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's a pretty shit thing too.

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And to bring it back full circle again, there

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is no right or wrong, there is no straight path.

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's really important for both parties

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to constantly be clear.

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 3>And when we decided to do this chat, I was

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 3>speaking to a friend of mine.

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Was just doing some due diligence, you know, all the

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:26.320
<v Speaker 2>high level, deep level reasons.

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 3>It's very deep.

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 1>It was a male friend, a guy friend to I

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted the male's perspective, and so I said, have you

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:33.920
<v Speaker 1>ever had a rebound relationship? Have you ever been a

0:50:33.960 --> 0:50:37.520
<v Speaker 1>rebound relationship? And he had been like. He said, yeah,

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I went through a pretty bad breaker and I didn't

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 1>want to think about it anymore, and I just wanted

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:42.879
<v Speaker 1>to get back out there.

0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 3>And I said, how did you do it?

0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Then? Did you lead them down the garden path? Do

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.240
<v Speaker 1>they stay the night? Do you hang out and have dinners?

0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Is it just sex? How did you feel after it?

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>And he said, look, I was always really honest because

0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to lead someone astray.

0:50:57.760 --> 0:50:58.080
<v Speaker 3>He said.

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I always said to them, I'm not long out of

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.479
<v Speaker 1>a relationship. This is what I'm looking for, do without

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>what you will like. I just want to be very

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>clear that it's not gonna be one of those things

0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:09.840
<v Speaker 1>where you're going to change me like, but I'm not

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:11.399
<v Speaker 1>going to force you to do anything either. I laid

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 1>all my cards on the table. I'm looking for sex.

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking just to hang out occasionally. You know, I

0:51:16.880 --> 0:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>have stressful job. I don't want to bring stress into it.

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.200
<v Speaker 1>If you're cool with that, let me know, give me

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>a text. And I said, whether ever any problems with that?

0:51:23.719 --> 0:51:25.799
<v Speaker 1>He's like, no, because I was constantly I.

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 2>Was con to me because I feel like a lot

0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:29.839
<v Speaker 2>of women would still be like and not a lot

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 2>of men. It works both ways. I feel like a

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 2>lot of people, if they felt a strong emotional connection

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:37.959
<v Speaker 2>to him, would listen to what he's saying, but hope

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 2>otherwise well, he said.

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:43.280
<v Speaker 1>There were a few times that he sensed the change

0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>because I said, Look, I'm a female, I've been there.

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I know what it's like.

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 1>We all think that we can be the one that

0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 1>is special enough to change you, special enough to get

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>you over the line, special enough to get you back

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>in the relationship because sometimes we hear what you're saying,

0:51:56.920 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>but we don't believe it.

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 3>And we want to watch your actions.

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, So if you're saying you know, on a relationship,

0:52:00.960 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 1>but we're having dinner, wine, sleeping together and cuddling all night.

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:08.640
<v Speaker 3>We as women specifically, but humans, we want to take

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:12.240
<v Speaker 3>we see what we want from a relationship. One d again,

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:13.320
<v Speaker 3>he was like, it's honesty.

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>When I saw that, I felt there was a change

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and they were wanting more, he called it because he's like,

0:52:19.080 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I could see that you want more. I really do believe,

0:52:22.600 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and we say it's all the time. It's communication, transparency, honesty.

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I think people deserve the truth in these situations totally.

0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 2>And I think you know, we can say that well,

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, we made it very clearly the beginning. We

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 2>were like, it doesn't have to be good, doesn't have

0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 2>to be bad, but there is a bad way to

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:40.839
<v Speaker 2>go about having a rebad relationship, and that's like emotionally

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:43.239
<v Speaker 2>using someone as a crutch and leading them down the

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 2>garden path when you have absolutely no intention of being

0:52:45.960 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 2>in a relationship with them just because it makes you

0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:50.920
<v Speaker 2>feel better, just to service yourself totally, like, that's an

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 2>incredibly selfish thing to do. However, we all have to

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 2>be smart enough and better at kind of looking at

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:01.760
<v Speaker 2>someone's behavior and looking at the things that they say

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:04.400
<v Speaker 2>and going, Okay, I want better for myself. I'm not

0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:06.080
<v Speaker 2>going to sit around and wait for this person to

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 2>change their mind. And I guess the reason why I've

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.760
<v Speaker 2>kind of changed my feelings about this over the years.

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I remember I've spoken about it in the past my

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:17.720
<v Speaker 2>one year situationship where for an entire year I dated

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.880
<v Speaker 2>a guy in BONDI and he kept saying to me,

0:53:20.120 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be in a relationship.

0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:22.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not ready.

0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 2>But I was like, oh, but he you know, like

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 2>we spend every second fucking night together and we cuddle

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 2>and I've met all his friends and we do everything together.

0:53:30.520 --> 0:53:33.399
<v Speaker 2>So obviously at some point he's going to turn around

0:53:33.440 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and be like, I want.

0:53:34.280 --> 0:53:34.839
<v Speaker 3>To be with you.

0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Because we've literally been boyfriend and girlfriend for a year,

0:53:37.480 --> 0:53:38.240
<v Speaker 2>just without the label.

0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you essentially are. You're doing everything that a relationship does.

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 1>We did everything. But he would say to me point blank,

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:46.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not ready to be in a relationship. My work

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 1>is too busy, like you know, this is what I

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 1>want to focus on. But he would still treat me

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:52.960
<v Speaker 1>like he was, you know, I was his girlfriend. And

0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I look back on that now with the beauty of hindsight,

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what he did was not right, Like

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>he should have known that I was too emotion invested

0:54:00.600 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and he should have removed himself. But I also need

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to be responsible for my actions, and like him saying

0:54:05.719 --> 0:54:08.799
<v Speaker 1>to me, I don't want to be with you, and

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>me going he's gonna change his mind, that's on me.

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 3>I remember I did it for three years.

0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 1>That's the guy I flew to New York for that,

0:54:16.360 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the one that said you always spoke about on Tuesday.

0:54:18.520 --> 0:54:20.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the one yeah, the one that.

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Was like on paper, you're perfect, but yeah, just quite

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:23.759
<v Speaker 1>not hitting the marg that was that guy.

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I did that for three years and that was at

0:54:25.520 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 3>the end of the day. I blamed him for a

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 3>long time. But like you just said, you get to a.

0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Point where you're a bit older, more maturer with life experience,

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:33.879
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, I could have and should have walked

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:36.239
<v Speaker 1>away because she always told me, And man, it's so

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 1>fucking hard, you know what, I think that that's like,

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:40.479
<v Speaker 1>It's probably one thing we haven't covered on this. It's

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.000
<v Speaker 1>so hard to walk away from someone when you see

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 1>such potential in the relationship and you hope, you have

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:48.839
<v Speaker 1>so much hope that maybe that rebound could turn into

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:50.400
<v Speaker 1>something more and.

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.000
<v Speaker 3>That just give it a bit more time, give it

0:54:52.040 --> 0:54:52.560
<v Speaker 3>a bit more.

0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Time, and then they will finally see that what you

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:57.360
<v Speaker 2>have as special as whatever it is that they have

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>with their ex. But like, you can't force someone on

0:55:00.480 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 2>their journey. And also, if it's causing you pain, waiting

0:55:03.600 --> 0:55:06.040
<v Speaker 2>is causing you pain, you can't sit through it because

0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 2>all you're doing is rubbing yourself of being in a

0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 2>relationship with someone who's actually choosing you.

0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:12.000
<v Speaker 3>But there's a reason to finish this.

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:15.680
<v Speaker 1>There's a very good scientific reason that you when you

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 1>just said it's so hard to walk away. It actually

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 1>is hard because it's an addiction. Scientists have likened love

0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and endorphins and hormones and all of these things that

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:28.959
<v Speaker 1>comes with this feeling of finding your person and being

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>in true lust and love. They've likens to try and

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:34.720
<v Speaker 1>pull away from that a breakup to a drug withdrawal,

0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:36.479
<v Speaker 1>because it is a type of drug. It's a type

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 1>of addiction that we don't even know we have, so

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, to walk away from that is

0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 1>like trying to give up something. Maybe you've been addicted

0:55:43.040 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to cigarettes for a long time. It's new habits that

0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to create. It's understanding that what you are

0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:50.840
<v Speaker 1>getting your high from every day won't be there anymore

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and you've got to go and find it elsewhere. So

0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:55.839
<v Speaker 1>it really is scientifically bloody hard to walk away from.

0:55:55.960 --> 0:55:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I guess I mean this is a broader

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:00.319
<v Speaker 2>conversation that doesn't just kind of revolve around rebounds. But

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:03.840
<v Speaker 2>it's like sometimes breaking up with someone who you weren't

0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 2>actually in a legitimate relationship with is just as hard.

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 2>But the reason why it can even be harder is

0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 2>because you don't get any of the sympathy. People don't understand,

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:16.840
<v Speaker 2>like because you are breaking up with like the hope

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.160
<v Speaker 2>and the potential of what you saw in that relationship. Right,

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.760
<v Speaker 2>You're walking away from something that you really fucking wanted.

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:24.320
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, you feel silly for feeling

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.919
<v Speaker 2>that sad. And I think, like you know, with any

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 2>relationship break down, with any sort of disappointment when it

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:32.760
<v Speaker 2>comes to dating, like just be and go easy on yourself,

0:56:32.800 --> 0:56:36.800
<v Speaker 2>and you're absolutely allowed to be hurt by a fucking

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:37.760
<v Speaker 2>rebound breakup.

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I had a friend just the last couple of days

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 1>that got really upset, you know. It was in tears,

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:45.960
<v Speaker 1>very upset about this relationship. That and it is a

0:56:45.960 --> 0:56:47.759
<v Speaker 1>relationship because you can have a relationship with someone you

0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>met at the coffee shop. That's the difference with a relationship.

0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:51.919
<v Speaker 1>You can have so many different A relationship can also

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.359
<v Speaker 1>be one sided. That's the thing, right, just the other.

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:55.440
<v Speaker 3>Person know you're in the relationship.

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 2>I am having a relationship with Jason Momoa who just

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 2>does not know about it yet.

0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:02.520
<v Speaker 1>That's funny because she just said she's like, I just

0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:05.240
<v Speaker 1>feel so stupid. I don't know why I'm upset because

0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 1>they've only met once. Or twice, but they've been speaking

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 1>for quite a while online that still developed this connection,

0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.360
<v Speaker 1>and she thought it was going in a way that

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. It's old that it didn't, And she said,

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel so stupid.

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Why am I? She's like, why am I crying? Why

0:57:18.200 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 3>am I upset?

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, well, I validated, I said, hang

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 1>on a second, like you really felt something, it doesn't.

0:57:23.800 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 1>There's no timeframe that says you're allowed to feel after

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>this period. There's no twenty date rule, ten date rule,

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 1>two week rule. If you feel a connection and you

0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:34.160
<v Speaker 1>see something and then it's taken away, it is a

0:57:34.160 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 1>feeling of hurt. So I think it's really important to

0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:40.120
<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that relationships coming all different sizes and shapes, and

0:57:40.640 --> 0:57:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it's okay for whatever you choose to do. But if

0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it really is going to help you to get over someone,

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>if you get under them, go and get under them,

0:57:47.080 --> 0:57:48.000
<v Speaker 1>get under them as much.

0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 3>As you want, but be honest with yourself and be

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:50.440
<v Speaker 3>honest with them.

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, you know we never finished an episode without

0:57:54.240 --> 0:57:56.280
<v Speaker 1>our suck and our sweet, our highlight and our low

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:57.959
<v Speaker 1>light of the week, a Laura burn.

0:57:58.280 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 3>Do you want to bring it home.

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 2>My suck for the week is that my car is

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:05.400
<v Speaker 2>currently in for a service. I haven't had it serviced

0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 2>in two and a half years. I'm not even joking

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:10.880
<v Speaker 2>that the service light has been on. It's been like

0:58:11.080 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 2>service me, service me for two and a half years.

0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:17.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's almost like a game of chicken where I'm like,

0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna keep driving you until you explode.

0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:21.040
<v Speaker 3>What's gonna happen? First tire?

0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:24.040
<v Speaker 2>So dumb, I know, and I schooled you on that,

0:58:24.120 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 2>but I've been doing the same thing hypocrip. So I

0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 2>took it in for a service. Not surprisingly, they called

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:31.920
<v Speaker 2>me this morning and they said, hey, yeah, we can

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:32.600
<v Speaker 2>do the service.

0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:33.640
<v Speaker 3>It's a major service.

0:58:34.240 --> 0:58:36.760
<v Speaker 2>And also all these things don't work anymore, so they

0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:38.920
<v Speaker 2>need to be fixed, and that's going to cost you

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:40.280
<v Speaker 2>your first child.

0:58:40.080 --> 0:58:41.920
<v Speaker 3>And can you just sell it?

0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going out as afternoon to get my liver

0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:45.160
<v Speaker 2>extracted to pay for.

0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that seems fair.

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.720
<v Speaker 2>And also just annoying, annoyingly this it's a very first problem,

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.320
<v Speaker 2>but like having to like get everywhere without a car

0:58:52.400 --> 0:58:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and having two kids is just it's a very annoying

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 2>couple of days.

0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:57.320
<v Speaker 1>That's some of those things that like you don't want

0:58:57.320 --> 0:58:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to do as an adults life had me and you're like,

0:58:59.040 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I just want someone else to do it for me,

0:59:00.800 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 1>but there is no one else that you have to

0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:03.560
<v Speaker 1>do it, and I have to pay.

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.440
<v Speaker 2>For my side mirror, the one that got smashed by

0:59:06.480 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody else who smashed it when they drove past and

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:10.800
<v Speaker 2>never left a note. So like it's annoying because I'm

0:59:10.800 --> 0:59:12.120
<v Speaker 2>paying for things they shouldn't have to pay for.

0:59:12.200 --> 0:59:15.040
<v Speaker 1>So you know, someone smashed in to produce a Keisha's car.

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 1>A couple of days ago, she showed me the note

0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, well, they left an email.

0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Hey contact me.

0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Here's an email. And she's like, can you help me

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:23.280
<v Speaker 1>construct the email? At itt know what to say? And

0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, you just say, hey, you hit

0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>my car, pay for it.

0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:26.560
<v Speaker 3>So we eat.

0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 1>We did the email and we emailed them and it

0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:29.920
<v Speaker 1>bounced back. It was a fake email.

0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 3>They left and not I know, I did hear this

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:31.560
<v Speaker 3>s ory.

0:59:31.600 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 2>They left it not purposely so that if anyone saw

0:59:34.640 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 2>and they looked at it, there was an email there,

0:59:36.240 --> 0:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>but the email was not a Really that's so fucking diay.

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Someone did that to me as well. I think it's

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:43.200
<v Speaker 3>a pretty common thing, unfortunately, Dick Enns.

0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Okay, my suite for the week though, I've got

0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:49.040
<v Speaker 2>two sweets. One is that Matt and I are hosting

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 2>the premiere. It's such an odd one because we don't

0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.000
<v Speaker 2>usually host premieres. This is like a very new thing

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:55.240
<v Speaker 2>for us. But we're hosting the premiere of the Jack

0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Ryan season three release and that's tonight, so that's gonna

0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:02.760
<v Speaker 2>be very fun. And we get to interview some Hollywood celebrities.

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<v Speaker 3>That is really random.

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<v Speaker 2>John Krasinski, Yeah, I was supposed to interview him today

1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:08.480
<v Speaker 2>and he's had to cancel.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like his wife.

1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Can I say, Hi, it's nice to interview, but I

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<v Speaker 2>really like your wife, Emily Blunt.

1:00:13.480 --> 1:00:15.840
<v Speaker 3>You can, but I wouldn't lead with that, do you think?

1:00:16.200 --> 1:00:16.240
<v Speaker 1>No?

1:00:16.400 --> 1:00:18.919
<v Speaker 2>I know you're really successful, but I like your wife more.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is random for you too. Well, have you

1:00:22.200 --> 1:00:22.880
<v Speaker 3>have fun? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>And then my other second, sweet, I know it's a cheap,

1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:27.360
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to say it anyway. Yesterday we put

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<v Speaker 2>up the Christmas tree with the girls, and our Christmas

1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:32.480
<v Speaker 2>tree is so such a hunk of shit, but they

1:00:32.520 --> 1:00:34.840
<v Speaker 2>loved it so much and they are getting so excited

1:00:34.840 --> 1:00:37.000
<v Speaker 2>for Christmas, and it's so it's really sweet because it's

1:00:37.000 --> 1:00:39.320
<v Speaker 2>the first year that they are old enough to understand

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<v Speaker 2>that Christmas is a thing, that Sanna is coming, that

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't behave that they're not going to get anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's great. I love that. All right, what's

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<v Speaker 3>your son? My suck? I woke up this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're gonna know this, Laura, because you used to

1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:55.360
<v Speaker 1>live in this house. I moved into this house when

1:00:55.360 --> 1:00:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you moved out.

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<v Speaker 2>Await, your neighbor from upstairs was just in bed yelling

1:00:58.240 --> 1:00:58.480
<v Speaker 2>at you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, no, that's that's every second day. This is a

1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:02.600
<v Speaker 3>different day. I woke up.

1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm on breakfast radio at the moment, so I woke

1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:06.520
<v Speaker 1>up before I am barely had my eyes open, you know,

1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:09.520
<v Speaker 1>like feeling your way to the bathroom to like freshen up.

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<v Speaker 1>Splashed my face with water. Now I will show you

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<v Speaker 1>a video. I bent down because I was like no

1:01:14.760 --> 1:01:17.560
<v Speaker 1>time shower, I'm late, bent down into the sink and

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<v Speaker 1>was splashing my face with water.

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<v Speaker 3>Looked up and smack bang on.

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<v Speaker 1>The mirror in front of me was a huntsman, like

1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the biggest huntsman, and my face was so close to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I nearly I did. I dropped nuggets. This is four

1:01:29.720 --> 1:01:31.320
<v Speaker 3>am my eyes on the huge huntsman.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura had an infestation of huntsmen in his house and

1:01:35.640 --> 1:01:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I told her that this spider was here, and she's like, oh, welcome,

1:01:38.720 --> 1:01:41.320
<v Speaker 1>it's begun. What They're just gonna all start coming out.

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<v Speaker 2>This house is infested with huntsman's. Actually, like, I'm not

1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:46.240
<v Speaker 2>even joking. I might even try and dig up the

1:01:46.280 --> 1:01:49.000
<v Speaker 2>video that I took like two years ago and I

1:01:49.040 --> 1:01:50.920
<v Speaker 2>posted on social media. There was I came home this

1:01:50.960 --> 1:01:54.880
<v Speaker 2>one day and there was thirteen Like I'm talking half

1:01:54.880 --> 1:01:56.240
<v Speaker 2>the size of a dinner plate, like.

1:01:56.200 --> 1:01:58.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, a side plate. No, that's a bit exaggeration. There,

1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:01.800
<v Speaker 3>bloody big jungle all of a sudden, like.

1:02:02.080 --> 1:02:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Fifteen centimeter like they were fucking humongous and they were

1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:06.600
<v Speaker 2>just everywhere.

1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:08.960
<v Speaker 3>How did you sleep that night? Because genuinely, because I know,

1:02:09.120 --> 1:02:11.680
<v Speaker 3>obviously you call like a pest ConTroll lot togeah, but

1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:12.520
<v Speaker 3>they didn't come that day.

1:02:12.600 --> 1:02:14.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. How did you go to bed

1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that night? I'm gonna wrap myself and clean rap. It's

1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like like a condom.

1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:23.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprisingly not scared of spartas at all. They

1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:25.480
<v Speaker 2>don't scare me, and especially not Huntsmans because they don't

1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:25.920
<v Speaker 2>really bit it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think, don't really buit.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's they scare me, but the thought

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<v Speaker 1>of one beat in my bed with me while I'm asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>like one's been on my face before in bed I

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<v Speaker 1>sleep on my face.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wouldn't like that. I don't want them on me,

1:02:37.680 --> 1:02:39.320
<v Speaker 2>I was. I don't want them crawling over my children.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not frightened of them, so so no condom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Well that was my suck that. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the I feel like it's a movie like

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<v Speaker 1>Attack of the Killer Huntsmans that's going to come this summer, coming.

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<v Speaker 3>To you this summer cinema knew you soon this summer.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your sweet? I've always seen the plot, didn't really

1:02:59.320 --> 1:03:07.400
<v Speaker 3>have one. I've been the most boring human in existence.

1:03:07.440 --> 1:03:11.040
<v Speaker 3>This week. I've been like eat foop, sleep repeat.

1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:13.080
<v Speaker 2>That's why I feel like, Well, BRIT's been doing breakfast

1:03:13.160 --> 1:03:14.480
<v Speaker 2>radio for the past couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm a zombie.

1:03:15.560 --> 1:03:17.760
<v Speaker 2>It's a weird world doing breakfast radio. It means you're

1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:19.680
<v Speaker 2>up at four thirty in the morning, you finish work

1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:22.160
<v Speaker 2>at like eleven your home, and then we still let

1:03:22.200 --> 1:03:24.680
<v Speaker 2>me podcast. Yeah, and then Britt has to go to bed,

1:03:24.720 --> 1:03:26.760
<v Speaker 2>so like she hasn't really been living much.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a life. No, don't, I don't live. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>went to a lovely lunch at Totti's last week? That

1:03:30.920 --> 1:03:33.000
<v Speaker 3>could be a sweet Oh yeah, I went to a Totty's. Great.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura's like trying to find me why she's mine in

1:03:34.720 --> 1:03:36.320
<v Speaker 3>my life? She's like, you've done something good. I went

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<v Speaker 3>with my agent. I took her to Toddy's. That was lovely,

1:03:39.520 --> 1:03:41.439
<v Speaker 3>and I introduced her to the bread and Barada, which

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<v Speaker 3>is to die for.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I also think that sometimes when and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a good little lesson for everyone, I think sometimes when

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<v Speaker 2>you think you're in and having a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>bad time, it's easy to think that everything's bad, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you have to break it down and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>what have I actually done for myself this week?

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<v Speaker 3>That was nice?

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<v Speaker 2>And unless you like purposefully try to be mindful of

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<v Speaker 2>those moments, it's so easy to be like, oh everything shit,

1:04:02.320 --> 1:04:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't get my life, and well, well that's the

1:04:03.920 --> 1:04:05.920
<v Speaker 2>whole point of doing sucking sweet. Well, you did a

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<v Speaker 2>really good job of it this week, since you came

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<v Speaker 2>with nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I slipped the ball. I let the ball slip. There's

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<v Speaker 3>some slipper sockers out there. It is anyway. That's it

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<v Speaker 3>from us, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Please say if you have questions for asking Cut, keep

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<v Speaker 1>them coming into life on Cut podcast Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>We want your accidentally unfilters as well, Like if you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have any absolutely fucking hilarious things that have happened

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<v Speaker 2>to you, maybe you shot yourself at a Christmas party, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever is the story. If it's a I can't believe

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<v Speaker 2>they said that, if it's a confessional something you want

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<v Speaker 2>to get off your chest, send in your wild ass

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<v Speaker 2>stories because we want them.

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<v Speaker 3>We would also love to finish the year on a

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<v Speaker 3>review high.

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<v Speaker 1>if you've never left this review, but only if it's

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