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Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: There's a story going on in the British press at

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Speaker 2: the moment and you may have been following it. Philip

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Speaker 2: Schofield has been hosting Good Morning. It's the name of

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Speaker 2: the show. It's a morning TV show in Britain.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of memes of him just laughing

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Speaker 3: in name.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: The reason you've seen all the memes with him laughing

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Speaker 2: innately with his co host Holly Willoughby is because they

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Speaker 2: have hosted this show together for fourteen years and they

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Speaker 2: are best buddies, and they laugh a lot, and it

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Speaker 2: seems like it's a really great way to spend the

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Speaker 2: morning hanging out with these guys. He had been married

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Speaker 2: for a number of years. He's sixty one years o.

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Speaker 2: Il'd been married for thirty years something like that, and

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Speaker 2: then a couple of years ago he came out as

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Speaker 2: gay and he announced it on the show and Holly

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Speaker 2: hugged him, and there are other people on the show

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Speaker 2: who all hugged him and said and he was married.

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Speaker 2: He'd been married for over thirty years.

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Speaker 3: Man woman relationship.

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Speaker 2: That's right with children?

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Speaker 3: Do you what his wife said? He came out with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting I thought that at the time that

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Speaker 2: everyone has supported at him, saying it's very brave of you,

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Speaker 2: and he's to your new life and you're finally being

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Speaker 2: your authentic self. And I thought, how does his wife

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Speaker 2: and his family feel?

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Speaker 3: That's very hard. How would swallow say Argum say Harley

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Speaker 3: came out as.

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Speaker 2: Gay, I'd be surprised.

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Speaker 3: Brendan, Yeah, but how would you it?

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Speaker 5: Would it be better that he came out as gay

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Speaker 5: or if he ran off with another woman?

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Speaker 3: What's easier?

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Speaker 2: I don't think either of it's easy. And all of

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Speaker 2: this playing out in public and everyone congratulating him on

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Speaker 2: this big move and his family at home, but the

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Speaker 2: story has progressed from there, so he lost no viewers

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Speaker 2: over that. That was great and this new world we're in,

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Speaker 2: you can say that on television and you congratulated for

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Speaker 2: being brave and, as I said, being your authentic self. Well,

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Speaker 2: fast forward to just a couple of weeks ago, and

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Speaker 2: it seems that their friendship had cooled enormously and people

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Speaker 2: weren't sure exactly why. One of the reasons why is

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Speaker 2: that he took some time off because his brother had

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Speaker 2: a court case where he was accused of being a

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Speaker 2: child sexual abuser. He's gone to prison, and Philip Schofield

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Speaker 2: had said, I feel like I don't have a brother,

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Speaker 2: disown him now, but he was there during.

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Speaker 3: The court case.

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Speaker 2: There's stories that Holly hadn't been entirely briefed on the

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Speaker 2: nature of all the offenses and was horrified by what

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Speaker 2: was going on. But that doesn't mean that Philip Schofield

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Speaker 2: is tired with the same brush in anyway. And then

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Speaker 2: just a couple of weeks ago, the story came out

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Speaker 2: that he'd had a relationship with a young coworker, a

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Speaker 2: male coworker. The story was that he met him when

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Speaker 2: the boy was about fifteen, he got him a job

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Speaker 2: on the show, but he said that they didn't have

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Speaker 2: any sexual contact until he was twenty years old. Nothing

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Speaker 2: illegal has happened. He said, I've done something that maybe

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Speaker 2: was not ethical, and I've hurt my family, and I've

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Speaker 2: lied to my coworkers and to my producers and to

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Speaker 2: his management. His management has sacked him because he lied

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Speaker 2: to them all saying no, I haven't had affair with

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Speaker 2: this man. This man has never said anything, he's never

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Speaker 2: come forward and.

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Speaker 3: Was this his first homosexual relationship with this young fellow.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That hasn't been spoken about publicly, but

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Speaker 2: he said that I've done something stupid, but I have

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Speaker 2: not done anything illegal. The young man is an innocent party.

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Speaker 2: He said, I was older, I should have known better.

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Speaker 2: The affair was consensual, but this was my fault. So

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Speaker 2: he stood down from his position on the show. But

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Speaker 2: when the details of this got mercier and mercier, he

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Speaker 2: was accused of grooming this young man and he said,

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Speaker 2: I haven't done any of that. He's then been sacked

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Speaker 2: from the entire network. His TV career is over. His

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Speaker 2: management have sacked him to the point where he did

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Speaker 2: a TV interview on the weekend, and this is what

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Speaker 2: he said.

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Speaker 4: Do you want me to die? Because that's where I am.

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Speaker 4: I have lost everything. My girls saved my life.

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Speaker 2: He said. His daughters have stood by his side, and

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Speaker 2: if they weren't with him twenty four hours, he felt

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Speaker 2: he would have taken his own life. And this is

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Speaker 2: what we do, don't we We push people from one

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Speaker 2: extreme to the other. We want to see them suffer,

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Speaker 2: and then when we see stuff we've go over're gone

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Speaker 2: too far. Because everyone it seemed to me there must

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Speaker 2: be more to the story, because why has everyone vilified

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Speaker 2: him so much? If the boy wasn't groomed, if it

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Speaker 2: was consensual, if the boy was over the age of

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Speaker 2: twenty as he is here. I saw an interview with

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Speaker 2: the actor Rupert Everett and he was asked about it.

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Speaker 1: What's he done this person? He's married and has had

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Speaker 1: an affair with someone that's legal to have an affair with.

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Speaker 1: Unless there's something else that we haven't heard about, they

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Speaker 1: should drop it. It's outrageous this kind of puritan fascism

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Speaker 1: that's going on. If it's just about him having an

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Speaker 1: affair and lying to his agency, why can't you lie

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Speaker 1: to your agent?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why can't you lie to your agents?

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that people are going, oh, Holly must have known,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. Well, she said she didn't, and

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Speaker 2: even if she did. I saw this in Morning Wars,

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Speaker 2: you know the Jennifer anistein TV show, the series where

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Speaker 2: Steve Carell played He was like a Matt Lauer character

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Speaker 2: on American morning television, where it came out that he

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Speaker 2: was kind of having affairs with staff. Is anyone's business.

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Speaker 2: It is if girls are being coerced. It is if

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Speaker 2: girls are being promoted because of it, or being sacked

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Speaker 2: because of it, or having mental health issues because of it.

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Speaker 2: But if you find out one of your coworkers is

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Speaker 2: having an affair, is it your business doesn't matter? Interesting

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Speaker 2: how this will play out. But Phillip Schofield says he's

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Speaker 2: lost his TV career. He feels like he's at the

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Speaker 2: edge of losing his life for what we're now hearing.

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Speaker 2: May he may not have. He says he hasn't groomed

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Speaker 2: him unless we hear otherwise. What do we do.

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Speaker 5: Lying to your agent? What about all those cashy jobs

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Speaker 5: you do? Sure Brenon when you're hosted Somonat's the Burnout.

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Speaker 2: I got fifty bucks for that and a packet of smokes.

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Speaker 3: I want ten percent of that.

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Speaker 4: You know