WEBVTT - Should We Confront Strangers For Doing The Wrong Thing? 👊🏻😡

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Flex and Rooms on Kata. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but when I open up dms from people

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram, I'm able to scroll up and see our

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<v Speaker 2>conversational thread and sometimes that kind of like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it spricks an idea, an old thought that I had.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you remember me telling you

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<v Speaker 2>this story about me getting on a plane and sitting

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<v Speaker 2>next to this older couple and we were all wearing masks.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like mandated, but you know, we're mindfulful. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I was sitting on an aisle seat right, so

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<v Speaker 2>the person behind me in the middle seat was incessantly coughing,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like the guard all chesty, flemy cough spluttering,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like speaking as well, and just like really

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<v Speaker 2>not having the best social decorum. And because our plane

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<v Speaker 2>had been delayed, we're kind of sitting there taxied for

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<v Speaker 2>a little while. Now I felt sympathetic for the person coughing,

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<v Speaker 2>because you don't want to have a coughing fit on

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<v Speaker 2>a plane. Nobody is going to be gentle with your feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>But what ended up happening is after about thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of this, the couple next to me turned around and

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<v Speaker 2>offered them a mask, and they said no, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said, you're actually what you're doing is actually

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<v Speaker 2>quite harmful. Said, the last thirty minutes, you've been coughing,

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<v Speaker 2>you've been spluttering. It's not being great. You've made no

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<v Speaker 2>attempts to cover yourself. I'm hearing you so clearly, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting next to you. Please just take this mask.

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<v Speaker 2>And the girls like they're so rude, like la la

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<v Speaker 2>la la.

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<v Speaker 1>Lah.

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<v Speaker 2>I started this conversation online and asked who was ruder

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<v Speaker 2>in that in that instance, the person coughing like loudly

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<v Speaker 2>in everybody's air or the older couple, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>fifty to fifty. Wow, which I find so surprising because

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's like, well, the couple should have approached it nicer,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like I was talking my people's health and

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<v Speaker 2>health and wellness fame. But anyway, it prompted this response

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<v Speaker 2>that I got from this person that I didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>until almost a year later when I saw them message

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<v Speaker 2>me again, listen to this. This person says, controversial opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>but confrontation is in fact, positive expression done in a

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<v Speaker 2>non violent, respectful way. It's constructive feedback on public behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Discomfort with confrontation is something we should reflect on because

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<v Speaker 2>why we uncomfortable expressing communal values in public, particularly if

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<v Speaker 2>someone is doing something that directly affects the people around

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<v Speaker 2>them in a negative way. I said, let's really mull

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<v Speaker 2>over that on a second, because I have no doubt

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody in the vicinity was freaking out at this coughing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everyone's like kind of looking back, seeing where

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming from, putting on masks that they didn't have before,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe kind of like motioning to cover their faces, or

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<v Speaker 2>just being a bit more mindful of their own body

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<v Speaker 2>and their bodily fluids. But all of a sudden, as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as our older couple said hey, like do you mind,

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<v Speaker 2>the energy shifted, and I felt people thinking that the

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<v Speaker 2>older couple were added. And I'm saying that older because

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<v Speaker 2>I was hearing commentary as we're getting off the plane,

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone's like, yeah, see this is a thing like

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<v Speaker 2>old people. This old people that like it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. And I think the commentary was from someone

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<v Speaker 2>who knew the girl as well, right, But I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying older, so you know the context. But realistically,

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<v Speaker 2>it was so brave for that couple to say something,

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<v Speaker 2>because to isolate yourself from a group in any instance,

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<v Speaker 2>especially public, especially when you're not around your people, is

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<v Speaker 2>such an unsafe thing to do. It could have gone

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<v Speaker 2>either way, could have been a whole fistfight. People are insane,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially on a flight where everybody feels entitled. I

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<v Speaker 2>paid to be here. This is my seat three, A

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. It's a bit of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you have one real bad public confrontation after you

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<v Speaker 1>try to stick up for the quote unquote communal values

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<v Speaker 1>that this person talks about, try doing it once, guys

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<v Speaker 1>triving in my ship. No, but I'm serious, Try that

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<v Speaker 1>at once and getting abused to hell and high water. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the communal value seem a little less communal and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>Because then, as someone who definitely took up that role

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<v Speaker 2>and was asked to do that in too many situations,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, it is so unsafe out here. It

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<v Speaker 2>is beyond unsafe. And it's also really confronting to know

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<v Speaker 2>that once you put yourself in harm's way, people don't

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<v Speaker 2>have your back.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally.

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<v Speaker 2>I love seeing like people stand up for their people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even need to see the circumstance. I just

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<v Speaker 2>love to know that, Like, if something's going down, someone's partner,

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<v Speaker 2>best friend, teacher is like, wait a second, what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on here? Because yeah, these communal values they're there. Suddenly,

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<v Speaker 2>when we're all on the plane scared to death COVID, they've.

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<v Speaker 1>Just bitch, Yeah, where are the flat atcendants. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>nice to stand out from the pack.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not especially when it almost feels like you're telling

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<v Speaker 2>someone how too human. Yeah, gosh, it's not. People always

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<v Speaker 2>do it to young mums. Oh they loved people hate women.

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