Speaker 1: Do you regularly have a meal off from your healthy
Speaker 1: eating plan or put more apply, do you factor a
Speaker 1: cheat meal or even a cheat day as part of
Speaker 1: your eating routine. Well, there's some brand new research to
Speaker 1: suggest that a cheat maybe actually doing your diet more
Speaker 1: harm than good. And today Leanne and I take a
Speaker 1: closer look wid Hi. I'm Susie Burrow normally and Wood
Speaker 1: and each week we bring you The Nutrition Couch, the
Speaker 1: bye weekly podcast that keeps you up to date on
Speaker 1: everything you need to know in the world nutrition as.
Speaker 2: Well as cheating.
Speaker 1: Today we are going to take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: alcohol consumption and really be honest about how much is
Speaker 1: too much? And our listener question comes from our Instagram
Speaker 1: and it's asking about sugar free lollies and are they
Speaker 1: really a good choice? So, Leanne, this popped up on
Speaker 1: my news feed recently and I instantly thought to myself,
Speaker 1: this is a great topic for us, and it's even
Speaker 1: more pertinent because we've just come off the back of
Speaker 1: Mother's Day and my clients have certainly been cheating and
Speaker 1: not just a little. I've been sort of getting food
Speaker 1: diaries coming over the weekend and being like, whoa that
Speaker 1: was certainly not a meal off. It was certainly a
Speaker 1: weekend of eating. So I think, first of all, we'll
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about history of cheating in a
Speaker 1: diet context, because, notoriously, or from my memory of it,
Speaker 1: it came originally from bodybuilding practices, where bodybuilders are so
Speaker 1: very very strict for a period when they're going through
Speaker 1: their strip phase, and then they will sometimes factor in
Speaker 1: as part of their strip when they're getting ready for competition,
Speaker 1: to cheat where they'll allow themselves to have a heavier
Speaker 1: meal and will allow for eating out or perhaps something
Speaker 1: they're craving. And that was something that traditionally that kind
Speaker 1: of regime sport would routinely talk about a cheat meal. Now,
Speaker 1: certainly people will then extrapolate that. And the issue I've
Speaker 1: always had with clients in general is that a cheat
Speaker 1: is not just enjoying something in moderation, so saying a
Speaker 1: beautiful pastor because they're out, or a couple of glasses
Speaker 1: of wine. It's psychologically gives license to binge and overeat.
Speaker 1: And indeed I saw that with some of my ladies
Speaker 1: over the weekend. It wasn't that they ate a few
Speaker 1: extra things. They gave themselves permission to eat large quantities
Speaker 1: of poor quality food and the guys that they were
Speaker 1: off their diet. Now we know psychologically and that that
Speaker 1: lends itself to the diet cycle where the belief sits
Speaker 1: psychologically that your diet has to be perfect and then
Speaker 1: you're either off or you're on, and it can really
Speaker 1: fuel that diet culture. And you and I have both
Speaker 1: always been very clear that we do not support that,
Speaker 1: and what we're trying to do with our clients is
Speaker 1: to create balance. And sure there might be a meal
Speaker 1: or to each week that's more indulgent or heavier in calories,
Speaker 1: but simply it's about them buffering it and having some
Speaker 1: lighter days because inevitably and in life, there will be
Speaker 1: times that we eat high calorie food and there'll be
Speaker 1: times that we eat lighter. But certainly for clients who
Speaker 1: have had a long history of dieting, to work and
Speaker 1: get rid of that whole belief structure that you've got
Speaker 1: to be perfect to achieve results and have to be
Speaker 1: on or off something can take a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of work over time. But this was interesting research
Speaker 1: that got widespread coverage. It actually came from the University
Speaker 1: of New South Wales, in Sydney to It was a
Speaker 1: rat study, but it was specifically looking at the difference
Speaker 1: when the rats were on their typical healthy rat diet
Speaker 1: versus a diet that was filled with heavily processed food.
Speaker 1: And what the research has found was that when the
Speaker 1: rats were on a high saturated fat, high sugar diet,
Speaker 1: which is typical of what we'd call an ultra processed
Speaker 1: diet where you're having foods that are purchased away from
Speaker 1: the home, so fried food, takeaway food for ultra process
Speaker 1: foods of foods that don't resemble the original food type,
Speaker 1: so snack food, chips, biscuits, chocolates, that indulgent kind of food.
Speaker 1: The longer that the rats were on those diets, basically,
Speaker 1: the worst they performed in spatial memory tests. And so
Speaker 1: researchers found their relationship interesting because not only did they
Speaker 1: confirm that it significantly altered the rats gut microbiome, which
Speaker 1: is the link between a diet high and not processed
Speaker 1: food and immune function, but it actually affected them cognitively,
Speaker 1: and the longer they were on the diets, the worse
Speaker 1: the cognitive performance got. So what this is telling us,
Speaker 1: Leanne is that that whole cycle it. Admittedly it's a
Speaker 1: rat study, but we can can take some home messages
Speaker 1: from it. Ultimately, that whole idea of being on or
Speaker 1: off a diet can be physiologically damaging, but also what
Speaker 1: it appears is psychologically damaging.
Speaker 2: It actually impacts the brain.
Speaker 1: And so what we want to learn from this is
Speaker 1: that that whole idea of being on or off something,
Speaker 1: or basically binging on poor quality food under the guise
Speaker 1: of having a meal off, is not a good idea.
Speaker 1: And I see it all the time with my clients.
Speaker 1: They don't go and have a situational appropriate meal that
Speaker 1: is heavy. You know, they're not at an Italian restaurant
Speaker 1: ordering pasta and a couple of glasses of wine or
Speaker 1: having a gelata with the kids. They're going out of
Speaker 1: their way to make sure they eat really poor quality stuff.
Speaker 1: So they give themselves permission to have For example, they
Speaker 1: go to a fish and chip shop and they have
Speaker 1: fish and chips plus calamari, plus soft drink plus wine.
Speaker 1: Now that is a binge, it's not a meal off.
Speaker 1: And that's what you want to sort of draw down
Speaker 1: to and say, am I overeating psychology? Because getting myself
Speaker 1: permission or did I actually really crave high fat fish
Speaker 1: and chips and soft drink, And probably when you deep
Speaker 1: dive into it, you actually didn't feel that much like
Speaker 1: fried food, and it didn't actually make you feel very good.
Speaker 1: But in your head that you feel you should be
Speaker 1: allowed to have it, and you're resentful you can't, so
Speaker 1: you overeat it. So it's a very complicated psychological relationship
Speaker 1: we have with some of those things. But the best
Speaker 1: way I can put it is, if your cheat translates
Speaker 1: into giving yourself permission to eat crap, it's not doing
Speaker 1: you any favors. And certainly this research has confirmed that.
Speaker 3: And it's a really interesting, I guess school of thought
Speaker 3: cheap days and cheap meals Because I myself have had
Speaker 3: my own struggles with food and my relationship with food.
Speaker 3: I've always been open about that, and that was one
Speaker 3: of the reasons I started my coaching service, was to
Speaker 3: help clients, you know, help them with that healthy relationship
Speaker 3: with food. But I very much was someone who did
Speaker 3: have cheap days. I would be super clean Monday to
Speaker 3: Friday or even on til you know, Friday night, and
Speaker 3: then kind of Friday night and Saturday was like a
Speaker 3: bit of a vender a bit of a free for all.
Speaker 3: Then I'd always be like, I'll get back on track
Speaker 3: on Sunday, and then Sunday was kind of like this
Speaker 3: slippery slope, or once I had a little naughty thing,
Speaker 3: it kind of continued that it was all started again
Speaker 3: on Monday. So I've always been against the cheat days
Speaker 3: because I know that mentality. It's not great for you.
Speaker 3: It undoes all your hard work during the week, and
Speaker 3: you honestly feel awful after eating all of that food.
Speaker 3: And it's never like you're having your free for all
Speaker 3: on your vegetables or your vegetable soup. It's always like,
Speaker 3: as you said, the high fat, high ultra process food
Speaker 3: that actually doesn't make us feel good. So it really
Speaker 3: just comes down to that moderation and balance, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: And I have so many clients who like they do
Speaker 3: it and then we have a chat about it and
Speaker 3: it's like, did you actually feel great afterwards? And they're
Speaker 3: like no. So I think we just build it up
Speaker 3: in our head to make it sound like, oh, it
Speaker 3: would be so amazing if I could go out and
Speaker 3: have the pizza in the pasta and the one and
Speaker 3: the dessert, and the guy like bread and go for
Speaker 3: gelato afterwards, like a bit of a free for all.
Speaker 3: We build this up on our head like it's going
Speaker 3: to be this amazing thing, but if we really stop
Speaker 3: and think about it and ate mindfully, we honestly feel
Speaker 3: awful afterwards. And that for me, until I really acknowledged
Speaker 3: how that made me feel, that was the biggest turning
Speaker 3: point for me. That's what made me stop because I
Speaker 3: was like, I feel like, in my head, I build
Speaker 3: it up to this thing where it's gonna be like,
Speaker 3: this is gonna be so amazing, But if I was
Speaker 3: being truly, truly honest with myself, it didn't actually make
Speaker 3: me feel great afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, it comes down to really taking time
Speaker 1: to consider what you actually feel like eating as opposed
Speaker 1: to what you think you're allowed to eat. So if
Speaker 1: you love macas, if that's your ultimate soul food and
Speaker 1: once a week, once a fortnight, that is your reward
Speaker 1: for being reasonably strict with your diet exercise, go for it.
Speaker 1: But I guarantee you that's not your favorite food. You're
Speaker 1: eating it on autoque because you think that you're allowed
Speaker 1: to because you're off. So it's very much for me
Speaker 1: getting rid of that off or on mentality and getting
Speaker 1: back to what you feel like and what's going to
Speaker 1: give you the most pleasure and a strategy you're a
Speaker 1: technique I would encourage you to work on, and it
Speaker 1: will take time, particularly if you've been a dieter on
Speaker 1: and off for twenty plus years. Is if you're a
Speaker 1: sweet tooth and love chocolate, I want you to go
Speaker 1: to the chocolate section of the supermarket and really take
Speaker 1: time to think about what chocolate do you actually really want?
Speaker 2: Do you want fruit and nut? Is it top deck?
Speaker 2: Is it crunchy?
Speaker 1: And really try and decipher the differences in pleasure that
Speaker 1: you get, rather than just going, oh, I can eat
Speaker 1: any chocolate and just stuffing it all in. And certainly
Speaker 1: that happens over Easter when people just eat on autoque.
Speaker 1: And the other trick I would suggest is if you
Speaker 1: do sort of like to take your foot off the
Speaker 1: pedal on the weekends, it's not Friday night till Monday
Speaker 1: morning is off.
Speaker 2: It's one or two meals.
Speaker 1: So rather because I find my clients will sort of
Speaker 1: start Saturday morning and they'll be at sport and they'll
Speaker 1: eat a bacon and all, and then they'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: stuff it, I've gone off track. And then they'll have
Speaker 1: lunch out and then they'll eat dips and like it
Speaker 1: just goes the whole day, and inevitably they don't feel
Speaker 1: good in their stomach because they've eaten a lot more
Speaker 1: high fat food. They're feeling tired, awful. So rather than
Speaker 1: do that on AUTOQ again, map out the weekend and say, right,
Speaker 1: I do enjoy a bacon and egg roll with a
Speaker 1: kid's sport, but that's not overly.
Speaker 2: Good for me.
Speaker 1: So what I'm going to then do is have a
Speaker 1: salad for lunch or something a soup for lunch, and
Speaker 1: then we are going out for dinner. So just really
Speaker 1: isolate the occasions in which you're having something that you enjoy,
Speaker 1: but make sure you are eating it because you enjoy it,
Speaker 1: because in more cases than not, you're going to feel
Speaker 1: better when you're eating stuff you've made yourself, because let's
Speaker 1: be honestly, and how often do you go.
Speaker 2: And it's awful?
Speaker 1: Like we were at Bunnings the other week and the
Speaker 1: kids naturally like to get a bunning sausage. And I
Speaker 1: had done exactly what I had just described my clients do.
Speaker 1: I hadn't eaten and I was like, oh, well, you
Speaker 1: know what, I am hungry, I'll get a sausage sandwich.
Speaker 1: It was awful. It was so gross. It was an
Speaker 1: awful sausage. It was just the poorest quality. The bread
Speaker 1: wasn't fresh, and you know what, I didn't need it.
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. If it's not great, don't
Speaker 1: eat it because so many calories slip in mindlessly without
Speaker 1: the enjoyment. Now, if it had been a great, beautiful
Speaker 1: sausage with great you know, onions on it, but it wasn't,
Speaker 1: so don't be as scared to say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not eating that because it's not great quality. And
Speaker 1: when you refocus on to what you enjoy in the
Speaker 1: taste and the quality, straight away, the focus will be
Speaker 1: off eating on AUTOQ and it will be much more
Speaker 1: in touch with your body and what you're feeling like eating.
Speaker 1: And yeah, just limiting those occasions rather than writing off
Speaker 1: the whole weekend.
Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more with just about moderation and balance, which
Speaker 3: leads very nicely into our next section, Susie, which is
Speaker 3: a little bit controversial, I must say, about moderation and
Speaker 3: balance in regards to alcohol. So alcohol is an issue.
Speaker 3: I've always said a strange drink far too much. We
Speaker 3: drink far too much, and it's a big issue. And
Speaker 3: it's almost like this ingrained part of the Aussie culture.
Speaker 3: Like even in my family, it's like every time we
Speaker 3: get together, there's beers and drinks. I'm like, guys, it's
Speaker 3: ten am or we're at a park. You brought your
Speaker 3: beers with you, like we're get We went on Mother's
Speaker 3: Day and Dad bring esque beers within to the park
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, Dad, like, what's an embrace.
Speaker 3: It's just ingrained in our Aussie culture that there's drinking
Speaker 3: every time we turn around, every time there's a celebration.
Speaker 3: So there's been some new guidelines in Canada, which I
Speaker 3: really think is about ten steps in the right direction
Speaker 3: where Canada the health authorities in Canada actually come out
Speaker 3: to recommend just one to two standard drinks per week,
Speaker 3: not per day Suzi per week and this is regarded
Speaker 3: as low risk. So the guidelines, there's a new report
Speaker 3: being released this week and if you want, you can
Speaker 3: just google you know, and you'll find the whole report.
Speaker 3: But it really also recommends the mandatory labeling on all
Speaker 3: alcoholic beverages with some new health warning. So I think
Speaker 3: by law in Australia all alcoholic drinks have their pregnancy
Speaker 3: risk warning, but I think they're talking about further health
Speaker 3: warnings as well, because we know it's you know, we
Speaker 3: really don't want to recommend drinking ever in pregnancy, but
Speaker 3: it's more than just in pregnancy for alcohol, there's some
Speaker 3: long term health effects even if you're not that too
Speaker 3: much alcohol can be significantly negative for your health. So
Speaker 3: the last time Canada updated its guidelines was over ten
Speaker 3: years ago. It was in twenty eleven, and their guidelines
Speaker 3: back then said to limit alcohol to ten standard drinks
Speaker 3: for women and fifteen standard drinks for men. That's like
Speaker 3: more than two a day for men, Like there's just
Speaker 3: so much. And honestly that is modeled on basically the
Speaker 3: Australian guidelines, which are very similar, which is far too much.
Speaker 3: Now with these new guidelines in Canada, they had a
Speaker 3: two year project via the Canadian Center on Substance Abution
Speaker 3: and Addiction and they reviewed over six thousand peer reviewed
Speaker 3: studies and they used over twenty three scientists to do this,
Speaker 3: which I think is wonderful. So they actually looked at
Speaker 3: a lot of these studies and looked at the harm
Speaker 3: of alcohol consumption. So they kind of came up with
Speaker 3: this continuum of risk where on a weekly alcohol basis,
Speaker 3: your alcohol consumption got more and more risky the more
Speaker 3: and more drinks you had. So what this report found
Speaker 3: was that there was less harm if you were sticking
Speaker 3: to about two standard drinks or less in a week,
Speaker 3: But the time you got up to three to six
Speaker 3: standard drinks for the week, your risk of developing several
Speaker 3: types of cancers actually increased. Now if you're at seven
Speaker 3: or more standard drinks for the week, your risk is
Speaker 3: higher for cancers, but also your risk is increasingly higher
Speaker 3: for things like heart disease and stroke long term as well. Now,
Speaker 3: for those at home wondering, okay, what is the standard drink. Essentially,
Speaker 3: it's about a three fifty milli liter bottle of beer,
Speaker 3: which is about five percent alcohol. It's about a standard
Speaker 3: glass of wine, which is about twelve percent alcohol, about
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty meals of wine and about forty
Speaker 3: meals of spirit. So just over a shot of spirit
Speaker 3: at about forty percent alcohol that is considered by definition
Speaker 3: to be a standard drink. When you're pouring yourself a
Speaker 3: glass of wine, or you're grabbing beer up to beer
Speaker 3: out of eski, you're probably drinking things that are more
Speaker 3: than a standard drink. David had one the other day lunch.
Speaker 3: His friend offered him and it was one point eight
Speaker 3: standard drinks in one can of beer. And he's friend
Speaker 3: off with him a second one, and I said, hey,
Speaker 3: you're driving, remember can you check? And he looked at
Speaker 3: it and he was like, oh, my goodness, like it's
Speaker 3: so strong. So a lot of the times we're drinking
Speaker 3: drinks which are far more than just a standard drinker.
Speaker 3: If someone's pouring us at a you know, at home,
Speaker 3: a big glass of wine, we're probably having the equivalent
Speaker 3: of close to two standard drinks. So I think these
Speaker 3: new guidelines are absolutely a step in the right direction.
Speaker 3: I think we absolutely have a problem with alcohol. And
Speaker 3: I haven't even touched on kind of the mum drinking
Speaker 3: cultures either, Susie, because I know that you and I
Speaker 3: have had discussions around that and just being completely normal
Speaker 3: for you know, mums to have a couple of drinks
Speaker 3: after the kids are in school, or meeting up for
Speaker 3: some lunch wines, or winding down on a Thursday and
Speaker 3: a Friday after school and we're all having drinks while
Speaker 3: you know, the kids are playing afternoon tea sport or
Speaker 3: whatever it might be. We have a large drinking problem
Speaker 3: in Australia and I think it's about time we kind
Speaker 3: of had a frank discussion about it on the potty.
Speaker 2: What do you think true?
Speaker 1: I saw those new guidelines and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that is significantly less than has ever been recommended. And
Speaker 1: I've just been doing some work on an article immune
Speaker 1: function and the data there when it comes to impairing
Speaker 1: immune system with alcohol, it is more than fourteen drinks
Speaker 1: per week, which, like you said, is still a lot,
Speaker 1: or five to six in one setting. So it's actually
Speaker 1: far worse to binge drinkers so many people do, than
Speaker 1: it is to have one or two each day. Now
Speaker 1: I would certainly encourage at least a couple of alcohol
Speaker 1: free days, But what I noticed with drinkers is their
Speaker 1: quick drinkers and their portions are huge. So it's not
Speaker 1: one hundred mil paw which is a standard service, a
Speaker 1: two hundred mil poor and they'll polish off a glass
Speaker 1: within twenty thirty minutes, So an easy step if you
Speaker 1: are a drinker is to just slow down your drinking,
Speaker 1: measure it and make sure it is only one hundred
Speaker 1: mel and make a glass last at least forty sixty minutes,
Speaker 1: and sip slowly, because in my experienced drinkers are quick drinkers.
Speaker 1: If you need motivation, it's so heavily aging in your
Speaker 1: skin as you get older, so we know it's closely
Speaker 1: associated with a number of types of cancer, including breast cancer.
Speaker 1: Alcohol consumption. But when I see some people who drink
Speaker 1: a lot, their skin is aged terribly and you'll not
Speaker 1: sat in their forties and fifties. If they're big drinkers.
Speaker 1: They'll also get a real puffy, kind of rosy look.
Speaker 1: You and I will often comment if we see celebs
Speaker 1: and we'll go there drinking. And I saw a friend
Speaker 1: of mine last week actually who I am in Brisbane,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I can tell that he'd
Speaker 1: been drinking. I could just tell looking at him how
Speaker 1: much he'd aged since I've seen him a year ago.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think that if there's a motivation
Speaker 1: that's required for women listening, it will make you age
Speaker 1: more quickly than anything, so that might be motivation to
Speaker 1: cut back certainly the lower alcohol slash zero alcohol options
Speaker 1: can be used really effectively, particularly if you find you
Speaker 1: like it after a long day, swapping over to a
Speaker 1: zero alcohol might be something to cut back. But yeah,
Speaker 1: basically for health and wellness and microbiome, immune function aging,
Speaker 1: you know, as we go on, basically the less you have,
Speaker 1: the better, and so managing that in a social context
Speaker 1: is important, all right.
Speaker 2: And well, just to.
Speaker 1: Finish off, we've actually had a listener question come in
Speaker 1: through our Instagram and when we have a second we
Speaker 1: do go through the so keep them coming. When we do,
Speaker 1: try and cover topics that people raise. And this is
Speaker 1: actually something Leanne we actually have never spoken about before,
Speaker 1: so I picked it off because it was a question
Speaker 1: around I think the specific was the Double D sugar
Speaker 1: free lollies, but I think it's applicable to any sugar
Speaker 1: free lollies is are they actually good for you? So
Speaker 1: I know there's the Double D's, there's also the Goels.
Speaker 1: I know, there's the sugar free butterscotch you can get
Speaker 1: at Aldi, and then also the Funday lollies that have
Speaker 1: been released in the last couple of years, which are
Speaker 1: specifically developed for kids as a lower sugar alternative. Now
Speaker 1: where do I sit with them. I think if you
Speaker 1: have a couple of sugar free lollies a day and
Speaker 1: it stops you from snacking or keeps you awake if
Speaker 1: you need to keep awake, I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with it, But I certainly wouldn't be encouraging people to
Speaker 1: go and buy them and grab them. And I certainly
Speaker 1: don't encourage kids to consume lollies at all, even low
Speaker 1: sugar ones, because I think the idea of a lolly
Speaker 1: for me as a party food should be consumed sparingly,
Speaker 1: and I would not be encouraging people to go and
Speaker 1: buy them if they don't already. That's sort of my
Speaker 1: position on them. Are they better to have no sugar?
Speaker 1: Technically yes, but I wouldn't be encouraging people to add
Speaker 1: them to the diet thinking they're good for you.
Speaker 2: Now they're still heavily processed foods.
Speaker 1: Like in the case of they've got sweetness in them,
Speaker 1: they're significantly sweeter than sugar. In the case of the Funday,
Speaker 1: they're sort of formulated with different starches that could affect
Speaker 1: gut health. So I think, like anything in moderation, but
Speaker 1: I certainly don't encourage clients to start with them or
Speaker 1: buy them myself or recommend them. If someone said to
Speaker 1: me I like them, I would say, we'll just watch
Speaker 1: how many, because what I noticed with people who consume
Speaker 1: sugar free lollies is they consume them non stop because
Speaker 1: they're constantly looking for that hit. And that's when you
Speaker 1: can have the issues with your gut wherein alcohol, sugars
Speaker 1: and the fibers can go straight through you and you
Speaker 1: can get upset stomachs. So I think if you, yeah,
Speaker 1: have them in your bag for emergencies when you just
Speaker 1: need a little hips, but it wouldn't be something that
Speaker 1: I would add to your diet thinking that they're a
Speaker 1: good choice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. And I've always been of the
Speaker 3: belief that you should eat a small amount of whatever
Speaker 3: you truly love. So if you truly love lollies, have one, two, three,
Speaker 3: that's it. I feel like with a lot of my clients, Susie,
Speaker 3: when we're replacing things like lollies, chocolates, brownies, ice cream,
Speaker 3: whatever it is, with like a lower calorie, lower sugar alternative,
Speaker 3: they tend to eat far more so, rather than just
Speaker 3: having say two or three normal pieces of lolly or candy.
Speaker 3: What they do is they have like ten, twelve, twenty
Speaker 3: pieces of sugar free candy, So it's kind of defeating
Speaker 3: the purpose at the end of the day. Yes, it's
Speaker 3: got low sugar, but they're not low calorie. You've got
Speaker 3: to remember that. Like those little fun Day natural sweets
Speaker 3: that I just looked up the nutritionals of the little
Speaker 3: bags of them or one hundred calories, Like, they're not
Speaker 3: calorie free, do you know what I mean? Like if
Speaker 3: you're having one or two bags of them a day,
Speaker 3: it's still going to add up at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, and there's a significant amount of fiber in
Speaker 3: there as well. Someone like a sensitive gup like myself,
Speaker 3: they add chagar root. I could not tolerate that, Like
Speaker 3: my gup with chigar root is just appalling. So I
Speaker 3: think for some people they would cause a little bit
Speaker 3: of I guess GI distress. And like you said, are
Speaker 3: they better I mean technically, but I think if you're
Speaker 3: going to overeat them, or you just chowing down on
Speaker 3: bag after bagging them day after day, you're not really
Speaker 3: doing yourself any benefits nutritionally. I think I personally am
Speaker 3: always of the belief. Have a little bit of what
Speaker 3: you love and leave it at that, but you've got
Speaker 3: to aim to eat in moderation. Same deal with you know,
Speaker 3: the sugar free ice creams. If you gonna eat a
Speaker 3: whole pint of ice cream, you're just overeating. I don't
Speaker 3: care if it's low calorie. I don't care if it's
Speaker 3: low sugar. Nobody needs to eat an entire pint of
Speaker 3: ice cream. Like I think you should learn some skills
Speaker 3: around mindful eating, because I think that's going to serve
Speaker 3: you far better long term than just learning to replace
Speaker 3: everything with low calorie, low sugar foods or more of
Speaker 3: these kind of diet or healthier options. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm sort of fifty to fifty on them. I feel
Speaker 3: like people tend to overeat them because they give themselves
Speaker 3: permission to eat more because they are considered a better option.
Speaker 3: So I'm not the biggest fan, but I guess, like
Speaker 3: you said, if you love them, have a couple, But
Speaker 3: I definitely wouldn't be having bag after bad day after day. No.
Speaker 1: And I think a couple of the girls I know
Speaker 1: have used them like to toilet train small kids, so
Speaker 1: rather than use real lollies.
Speaker 2: They've used those, so there was a purpose.
Speaker 1: If I'm giving my kids a treat, I'll never give
Speaker 1: them lollies, sugar free or other. If I'm giving them
Speaker 1: a treat, I'll probably give them a chocolate to be honest,
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's sort of better, you know,
Speaker 1: for them in terms of satisfaction. It's not that instant
Speaker 1: sweet response where you just keep eating. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just not a lolly fan in general. I think, how
Speaker 1: do you know? We all love them, but you just
Speaker 1: eat a packet of jelly beans. There's so much sugar.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, lollies are party food and
Speaker 1: should remain that way.
Speaker 2: All rightly, am what?
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