WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - WE'RE BACK! Plant Gate Has Entered The Chat

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another episode. Welcome back to our very

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<v Speaker 1>first episode of twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Who says it like that, it's twenty twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it twenty twenty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll survive, drive, ve laugh, love, live, laughs long. I'm Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany.

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<v Speaker 2>I went back.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We missed you all so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It was what did we have? Four weeks? Four weeks holiday?

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<v Speaker 2>But we still drop some EPs in that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we did. We had a few little sneakies. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone heard, by the time this episode comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt will have been in the I'm a celebrity jungle

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<v Speaker 1>well and truly well and truly so. I think last

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<v Speaker 1>night would have been the very very first episode. So

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<v Speaker 1>strap yourselves in and get voting for him tonight because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see him eat a giraffe or something

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<v Speaker 1>disgusting zebra. E. No, they don't do they don't do

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<v Speaker 1>animal stuff because of Robert Irwin.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they do do animal stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Trust me, I ate stink bugs and pigs nipples. They

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<v Speaker 3>do animal stuff, but it has to be farm raised animals.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't do any other animals other than like farm animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're doing our recordings on different days. We're

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<v Speaker 1>doing our drops on different days. As you would have seen,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a Monday. So if you missed our episodes

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<v Speaker 1>last year, we have completely done a restructure on this

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<v Speaker 1>year's episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Drops.

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<v Speaker 1>Monday is going to be ask on Cut and we

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<v Speaker 1>have some rules around ask on Cut which will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you about shortly Wednesday rules.

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<v Speaker 2>Not for you guys, don't worry, rules for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday is going to be our life catchups and also

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, you know, just the things that everyone's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's something crazy happening in the pop culture space

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<v Speaker 1>or in the world in general, or in our personal lives,

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<v Speaker 1>that is that episode. And then Friday is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be interview episodes where we really get into some more

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<v Speaker 1>media topics or we you know, interview all the people

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<v Speaker 1>that we interview.

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<v Speaker 3>As we realize people don't love change, like we have

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<v Speaker 3>been setting our ways here at Life on Cut for

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<v Speaker 3>many many years, we are making this change. But I

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<v Speaker 3>want it to be noted we're making this change because

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<v Speaker 3>we put our survey out to all you guys. We

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<v Speaker 3>asked you to give us all your feedback, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is what we came up with off the back of that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it won't take you long to settling. You're going

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<v Speaker 3>to have more days in between the episodes to listen, to.

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<v Speaker 2>Share it around, to tell your friends if that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you do.

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<v Speaker 1>And tell your dog as well, obviously, and your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>When we talk about people who don't like change, that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>We have made these changes. I am a creature of routine.

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<v Speaker 1>I eat the same thing every day, I cook the

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<v Speaker 1>same meals, I like, wear the same clothes every day.

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<v Speaker 1>If I deviate from, like the certain pair of jeans,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a really wild day for me. I am

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<v Speaker 1>such a creature of routine because I think everything else

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<v Speaker 1>in my life is quite mental and work normally doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any sort of standard plan that I need everything

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<v Speaker 1>else to like just be exactly as so, and I

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<v Speaker 1>put like when we go to the beach, I put

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<v Speaker 1>the pro and exactly the same spot.

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<v Speaker 2>That's weird. Hey, it's not weird, it's normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt finds it fucking annoying, is what he finds it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always like, let's go to the ramp, and I'm like, can't,

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<v Speaker 1>uh must go to the stairs.

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<v Speaker 4>That peasant who walks to bond and you have to

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<v Speaker 4>touch the end where like you know when you go

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<v Speaker 4>on a walk and you have to touch the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the bridge or like the end of the path.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, they're weird. We're at the age now with Marley

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<v Speaker 1>where Marley's like, don't step on a cracks. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>step on a crack you break your back. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>same girlfriend, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, I know, you just get to your thirties and

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<v Speaker 5>you break anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called aging Marley.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the rules around Ask on Cut, so that you

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<v Speaker 1>know and so that we all abide by them, is

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<v Speaker 1>that ask on Cut will no longer be the life

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<v Speaker 1>catch up episode because this is what we did last year.

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<v Speaker 1>We said we're going to answer your deep, dark and

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<v Speaker 1>burning questions.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked shit for forty minutes before we got to them,

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<v Speaker 3>and we did it on repeat every episode for an

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<v Speaker 3>entire year.

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<v Speaker 1>And this year is not going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you are looking, I mean, obviously we have

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<v Speaker 1>so many questions to answer on this episode, but also Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be good. Wednesday is when we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to unpack the life stuff, the real stuff, and hones stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask gun Cut will be your questions.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll be like a little bit of Hello banter at

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<v Speaker 3>the start, but you're not going to get any juicy

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<v Speaker 3>goss at the start of Ask gun Cut. Asking Cut

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be questions only. Except for today, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do We're going to give you a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of something today because it's the first episode back.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I just say I didn't start twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>off very well? I thought as an adult, this didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really happen to you anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't we just say we're not going to get so

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<v Speaker 1>into it, but we're going now except for today. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, sorry, rules meant to be broken.

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<v Speaker 2>You broken rule revels, I said.

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<v Speaker 4>I said, the rule is no touring us talk about

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<v Speaker 4>broken back when rules that we're abiding by ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Kaisha, do you hear what I'm about to tell you?

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<v Speaker 4>Subscribe now, everybody if you think we've lost the plot.

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<v Speaker 3>I started twenty twenty five off with conjunctividis, Oh babes, adult.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets conjunct dividers.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was reserved for small children or only

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<v Speaker 3>people that have small children that got conjunct dividers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got to get some corsic in that real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Smart.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, Matt also started off twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>with a pink eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Only one though, oh my god, don't take anything from that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we got matching conjunctividers.

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<v Speaker 1>One random pink eye which didn't go around the household,

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<v Speaker 1>which was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>E the pink eyes from Pooh particles.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was actually pink. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>had a stye or conjunctivitis. Who who knows?

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<v Speaker 5>How long did you conjunctivitis last?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I still took this morning. I have like any

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<v Speaker 2>biotic tablets in my eye.

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<v Speaker 5>Shit like highly contagious Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>Ben had it too. So on the first day we

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<v Speaker 2>woke up, we couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Open our eyes together because I was like stuck together

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<v Speaker 3>with conjunct dividers.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm too old for this shit.

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<v Speaker 5>Waited so long to see each other in person, your

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<v Speaker 5>physically car.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like, what does twenty twenty five look like

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<v Speaker 2>for you? I was like, I don't know. I can

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<v Speaker 2>all for my eyes. That's so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, twenty twenty five, You guys, if you've been with

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<v Speaker 3>us for a while, I know that twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>and twenty twenty three, we had some pretty big things

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<v Speaker 3>going on life uncut.

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<v Speaker 2>We had wallgate with my shrine. Shrine Gate.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys gave me stick about the fact that I

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<v Speaker 3>had this like shrine on my wall to Ben.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a new gate that has entered twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, and it's called If you've been following

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<v Speaker 3>along our socials, you'll know it's called plant Gate.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised that I didn't bring plant gate. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>true shock of twenty twenty five. I'm surprised that this

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come from me, since I'm the one who's really

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<v Speaker 1>down for the plant content.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, we love our plants here. So when

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<v Speaker 3>I went away, I was going away for a month. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>Keisha's always floating around Bondi near my house.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got the key.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, if you ever need to go there for anything,

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<v Speaker 3>go for sure, like whatever, my space is your space.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've got friends that need to come and stay,

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<v Speaker 3>they can use my apartment whatever. Can I also ask you,

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't mind, can you water my plants? Because

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<v Speaker 3>you know that plants can't survive a month without water.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the plastic olive tree in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the loungery.

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, okay, how to go? The only one to survive?

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<v Speaker 3>Mind you, this is exactly why I have plastic olive

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<v Speaker 3>plant trees. So I have this one beautiful fiddle, beautiful stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>It's do you know how many people wrote to me

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<v Speaker 3>and said, I have admired your fiddle in your content

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<v Speaker 3>for years.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so tall and it was so lovely. It

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<v Speaker 2>survived a move.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that fiddle leaves are dramatic, we know they

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<v Speaker 3>don't like change. But this fiddle leaf survived.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was top heavy.

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<v Speaker 5>And why is that? Because Delilah once ate the leaves

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<v Speaker 5>around the bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>Four years ago when she was a puppy. We've recovered

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<v Speaker 2>from that.

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<v Speaker 5>The plant didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get this message from Keisha only like a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days before I came back, and she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been putting this off. I have something I want

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<v Speaker 3>to tell you, but I don't want to ruin your holiday.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh my god, someone's died. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what's happened? Is everything alright?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like no, it's just don't worry. Like I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>wait till you get back. And I was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't feed this. What has happened? She's like, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>really serious.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know what's going to mean for our friendship.

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<v Speaker 3>She was so dramatic, And I was said to Ben,

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<v Speaker 3>something's going on, Like it was really serious.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys like I have some bad news. Are you

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<v Speaker 4>in the space to receive bad news right now? Or

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<v Speaker 4>like do you need to sit down? Is there a

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<v Speaker 4>better time later.

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<v Speaker 5>In the weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind that's a kind way of broaching the situation of

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<v Speaker 1>like destroying someone's happiness.

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<v Speaker 3>So I said to Bend, something really bad has happened

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<v Speaker 3>at home. So I literally sat down because Keisha's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna want to sit down, and she sends me

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<v Speaker 3>this picture.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, don't blame me. She sends me this picture,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have never seen anything so traumatic. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>was the fiddle dead, it wasn't just dead.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked like she had held a lighter to it

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<v Speaker 3>and burnt every inch of.

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<v Speaker 2>It to its life.

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<v Speaker 1>When Keisha said that she had been waiting to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>what she actually means is that's the first time she

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<v Speaker 1>went to water it, and that plant had not been

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<v Speaker 1>watered in over a month. And had been sitting inside

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty degree apartment that had been baking.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a month, that was a mile and a

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<v Speaker 2>half week.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I did light to you it had been two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>But that wasn't true. That was a complete life, wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why you trusted me to be the

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<v Speaker 4>person to look after plants.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a terrible memory. I forget fucking everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I have notifications in my phone for everything that's important,

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<v Speaker 4>and I didn't deem this to be important enough to

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<v Speaker 4>put a notification in. Laura is the plant queen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm offended. I live around the corner and I love plants,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one asked me where's my key to your house?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I know there is no way in hell you

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<v Speaker 3>would ever come and water my plan.

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<v Speaker 1>No I would. But I do it for the I

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<v Speaker 1>do it for the plant. I do it for the plant.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, you have a deep connection with plants. I

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<v Speaker 5>clearly don't.

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<v Speaker 4>And this particular fiddle is an asshole because it had

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<v Speaker 4>only three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It hadn't even been that hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine victim blaming a fiddle fig That's where we've gotten.

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<v Speaker 2>To him's gotten.

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<v Speaker 4>People messaged me that they said, how's you not watering

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<v Speaker 4>it for three weeks and then victim blaming the plant

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<v Speaker 4>for not thriving plans.

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<v Speaker 2>To fuck with. I literally said, stop blaming the plant.

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<v Speaker 2>It has nothing to do with this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>This is very relatable. I think there are so many

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<v Speaker 1>people who have been asked to quote unquote house sit

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<v Speaker 1>and water plants and then have been really the ones

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for killing off the entire greenery in the household.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, I definitely did not ask her to. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>just it's actually fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mad.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just disappointed. So Keish bought the new plant. She

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<v Speaker 3>put the old plane outside. That is Wait till you

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<v Speaker 3>see it now, Keisha, I'll send you another photo.

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<v Speaker 2>There is nothing left of it. But so many people

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<v Speaker 2>have written to me and said, like it can be saved.

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<v Speaker 1>Drop it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even though it's like a little black.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick, just chop the sticks right down and it will reroot.

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<v Speaker 5>I want it to die. I hate this plant.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm going to run an experiment and my next

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<v Speaker 2>period I am going to use Yes, I am that's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not, it's natural.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not a feminist anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>The funniest thing actually was that I warded it the

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<v Speaker 4>day that I took those photos and sent them to you,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, I have some bad news.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep in my heart.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, maybe it's just one of those things

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<v Speaker 5>that's gonna bounce.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's got some tenacity to it, it's got some resilience.

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<v Speaker 4>And I came back two and a half days later

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<v Speaker 4>expecting for it to be in a slightly better condition.

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<v Speaker 4>Right because I gave it a big drink. You drowned

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<v Speaker 4>a big, big, big drink.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got back.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was like, how do it look worse? And

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<v Speaker 4>then I kind of moved around it.

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<v Speaker 5>At one point my shoulder brushed up against it and

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<v Speaker 5>three leaves fell to the floor and they crunched as

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<v Speaker 5>they hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Like once again, they just think this is a situation

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<v Speaker 1>of too far gone. It's it's like giving someone a

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<v Speaker 1>panadole when they've been hit by a car.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is exactly why I think this is the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect time. I'm not joking.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm genuinely going to because I use a menstrual cup,

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<v Speaker 3>you guys know, I'm going to try it and see

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<v Speaker 3>what happens, Like what is outside instead of emptying my

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<v Speaker 3>cup down the sink or the toilet. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>empty it into the plant. If it doesn't work, no

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<v Speaker 3>one knows any difference. But if it does work, this

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be groundbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>I know because the thing is it will work, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to put it down to the menstrual cup.

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<v Speaker 2>Just cut the plant back and it will be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, I would like for it to be known that

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<v Speaker 4>I did repent for my sins and you have a

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<v Speaker 4>beautiful new.

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<v Speaker 5>Plant that I think looks better.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very short, it's very thick though, two seas it's Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about two feet tall and about five feet washs.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter about the lang is important thing, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what you do with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thickness is really important.

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<v Speaker 4>That is it? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look we should get into our vibes and unsubscribes, Keisha,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you vibing?

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<v Speaker 5>My vibe for.

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<v Speaker 4>This week is the new show on Netflix called Jerry

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<v Speaker 4>spring Up Fights Camera Action.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a two part docu series.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you call it because there's two episodes that

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're about fifty minutes each and it goes

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<v Speaker 4>and looks at the entire twenty seven seasons from nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>ninety one to twenty eighteen of The Jerry Springer Show.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like, this show was the.

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<v Speaker 4>Original outrage culture, right, It was kind of the ground

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<v Speaker 4>breaker of we're going to put things on TV that

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<v Speaker 4>people don't think should be on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to rush home from school to watch this show,

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<v Speaker 1>like I loved it. Yeah, my mum never sensed anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched this in South Park and I was hooked.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remembered Jerry.

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<v Speaker 5>Jerry.

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<v Speaker 2>They used to like chant him onto the stage like

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<v Speaker 2>a cult.

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<v Speaker 4>So quite interestingly, initially when it was a show, it

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<v Speaker 4>was pretty stock standard like every other talk show that existed,

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<v Speaker 4>and the ratings were exactly the same as all of

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<v Speaker 4>the others that existed. And this guy came in. His

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<v Speaker 4>name was Richard Dominic and he was the executive producer

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<v Speaker 4>of the show for fourteen years, and he was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of the I mean, you could call it a mastermind,

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<v Speaker 4>or you could call it the conductor of completely revamping

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<v Speaker 4>the show and making it into what it became. Of

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<v Speaker 4>this just like insanely outrageous, no rules applied, no morals applied,

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<v Speaker 4>situation where they got more and more ratings and it

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<v Speaker 4>ended up beating Oprah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the very first thing of its time where

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, you know, I think most people would

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<v Speaker 1>have shied away from that type of content originally because

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<v Speaker 1>it was like too smutty, too dirty, almost unrelatable. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was the unrelatable aspects and the outrageous aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>that which is what made it so insatiable to people.

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<v Speaker 2>This was before we.

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<v Speaker 4>Had any of the kind of understandings of duty of

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<v Speaker 4>care of what should happen to people who go on

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<v Speaker 4>this show, and the whole docu series really exposed some

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<v Speaker 4>of the incredibly dark sides of what happened behind the

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<v Speaker 4>scenes of the Jerry Springer Show. So it's got a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of the old producers who worked on the show

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<v Speaker 4>for a really long time. It also follows this awful,

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<v Speaker 4>tragic story of a woman named Nancy Pinitz, and she

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<v Speaker 4>was involved in what they labeled a love triangle, so

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<v Speaker 4>her ex partner had a new partner, the three of

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<v Speaker 4>them were on the show, and she kind of didn't

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<v Speaker 4>give the producers what they wanted out of that situation.

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<v Speaker 5>She ended up leaving and not coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Which there were also really interesting rules about the way

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<v Speaker 4>that they used to incentivize participants of the show. For example,

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<v Speaker 4>they would say, we're not going to get you a

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<v Speaker 4>return flight unless you go back onto the stage. And

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of these people were from underprivileged background, so

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<v Speaker 4>they couldn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Afford flights back. So that it was just such.

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<v Speaker 4>A different time where the well being of the people

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<v Speaker 4>on the show was not considered whatsoever. And that woman

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<v Speaker 4>Nancy Pinitt, the day that the episode of Jerry Springer aired,

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<v Speaker 4>she was murdered by her former partner, and the Jerry

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<v Speaker 4>Springer Show completely washed their hands clean.

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<v Speaker 5>They said, we had nothing to do with this.

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<v Speaker 4>It was utterly fascinating to see how much things have changed,

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<v Speaker 4>and for the right reasons that they have changed, because it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was just the wild West.

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<v Speaker 4>It was an absolute jungle and there were just no rules.

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<v Speaker 4>There were no rules about, you know, what you should

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<v Speaker 4>or shouldn't do on TV, because the thing was is

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<v Speaker 4>that they were climbing the ratings and so they were like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>people want to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so interesting, isn't It was almost that like the

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<v Speaker 1>very start of reality TV. It was a merger between

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<v Speaker 1>reality TV and a talk show, and nothing like that

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<v Speaker 1>had existed prior that sounds like such an interesting watch,

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<v Speaker 1>And I also think it kind of touches on some

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff that we talked about last year around

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<v Speaker 1>like making money off other people's trauma and who should

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<v Speaker 1>be the one to in that situation.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think I've been particularly critical of, like I know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've openly criticized people like Ryan Murphy on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>He is the guy who created the Jeffrey Dharma and

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<v Speaker 4>the Monster series and a whole lot of other true

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<v Speaker 4>crime stuff as well. But watching this documentary, I was like, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe I've been putting blame on the wrong people. We

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<v Speaker 4>all watched this, you know, Like where do we start

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<v Speaker 4>to take some personal accountability and be like, the only

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<v Speaker 4>reason that this was ever made is because people wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to see it. So maybe that's somewhere that we need

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<v Speaker 4>to look a little bit inwards as well. And that

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<v Speaker 4>applies to today's standards, you know. I know that outrage

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<v Speaker 4>culture is it's pretty much all that grows an algorithm

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<v Speaker 4>now on social media. The reason that that works is

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<v Speaker 4>because of the exact same thing. I think we're just

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<v Speaker 4>seeing it in a different format anyway, completely fascinating Netflix,

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry spring Up fights, camera action, I can't wait to

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<v Speaker 4>watch that one. Well, I have a recommendation of a

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<v Speaker 4>movie that I watched during the break and now it's

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<v Speaker 4>not a new movie. It actually came out in twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 4>but I would be curious to know as to how

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<v Speaker 4>popular it was. Neither of you had seen it or

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<v Speaker 4>knew of it, so I thought it could be a

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<v Speaker 4>good one to recommend. It's called mud Bound, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>quite a dark watch, and it's quite a heavy watch.

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<v Speaker 4>But it was one of those movies that left me

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<v Speaker 4>after it finished thinking about it for the next few

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<v Speaker 4>days and thinking about the story and the characters and

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<v Speaker 4>the character development. And I think that they're the types

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<v Speaker 4>of movies that I really really enjoy, even if they

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<v Speaker 4>do feel dark and leave you feeling uncomfortable. To give

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<v Speaker 4>you a very quick synopsis of it, it's based around

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<v Speaker 4>World War Two. It's based in Mississippi, and it's mostly

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<v Speaker 4>surrounding this one family who live on a cotton farm.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's from two different walks of life. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>black American family who one of their sons goes away

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<v Speaker 4>to fight in the war, and it is the white

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<v Speaker 4>family from the cotton farm whose son goes to fight

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<v Speaker 4>in the war, and when they come back and they're

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<v Speaker 4>both essentially war heroes, how differently they're treated and what

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<v Speaker 4>happens to both of them and their families as a byproduct.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was really it's incredibly sad because the the

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<v Speaker 4>black American character, who is a courageously heroic fighter in

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<v Speaker 4>the war comes back and has none of the same

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<v Speaker 4>standards or has none of the same privileges that the

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<v Speaker 4>white family has. He still has to use sit at

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<v Speaker 4>the back of the bus, even though he was good

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<v Speaker 4>enough to fight for the country, he has to use

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<v Speaker 4>the back exit of the shop. And so it's this

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<v Speaker 4>very interesting conversation around racism and just how prolific it

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<v Speaker 4>was in America in that time. But I loved it,

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<v Speaker 4>and I you know, like I said, very dark watch,

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<v Speaker 4>very very sad in some parts too, So I'd say,

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<v Speaker 4>unless you're ready to like really get stuck into.

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<v Speaker 1>The nitty gritty of a movie. But it did leave

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<v Speaker 1>me really questioning for a couple of days, like just

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<v Speaker 1>how it would have been to live during that time

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<v Speaker 1>and what an incredibly hard time it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>for so many people.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that that happened all different versions of that

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<v Speaker 4>happened like within Australia as well.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean you think about the fuzzy wuzzy Angels.

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<v Speaker 4>I know there are a lot of Aboriginal soldiers who

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<v Speaker 4>went and fought in I think World War One and

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<v Speaker 4>World War Two. Yeah, who were not recognized and not

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<v Speaker 4>appreciated for anything that did well this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And the interesting thing is I didn't realize, but

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<v Speaker 1>during this time in Mississippi, like black people couldn't even

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<v Speaker 1>ride in the front of a car. They couldn't ride

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<v Speaker 1>as a passenger in the front of the car. And

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<v Speaker 1>there were just so many like there's such such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge disparity in the racism that was experienced. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>Mudbound and it's also available on Netflix. Awesome, very good

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<v Speaker 1>ratings on Rotten Tomato ninety seven percent.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we're all a bit grim and glum today.

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<v Speaker 3>My ViBe's also a bit more serious. It's a podcast

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<v Speaker 3>I listened to in the break I did listen to

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not true chrime. That's shocking. Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called I'm Not a Monster, The Shamima Begham Story. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a BBC produced.

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<v Speaker 3>Podcast by an investigative journalist named Josh Baker, so he

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<v Speaker 3>hosts this podcast. Some of you might have remembered because

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<v Speaker 3>back at the time it was really big news. This

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<v Speaker 3>is back in England, Like in London in twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 3>these three fifteen year old school girls disappeared. They sort

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<v Speaker 3>of found out that they had gone to Syria to

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<v Speaker 3>join ISIS.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I did remember this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the story of one of these girls.

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<v Speaker 3>So this three is girl at school literally fifteen years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Think back to where you were at fifteen and so they.

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<v Speaker 1>Married into the Taliban and then they wanted to come

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<v Speaker 1>back into the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically they disappeared for four years. No one like,

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<v Speaker 3>there was no contact, no one heard, no one knew

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<v Speaker 3>how they went or why they went, like for a

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen year old to have found their way across the

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<v Speaker 3>border all the way to Syria from the wonderfully safe

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<v Speaker 3>and privileged home that they have in London. So four

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<v Speaker 3>years later everyone just presumes that they're dead or that

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<v Speaker 3>they had been kidnapped and taken their coerced whatever. Four

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<v Speaker 3>years later they pop up, Well they don't sorry, one

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<v Speaker 3>does Shmima.

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<v Speaker 2>The other two I don't want to spoil it. One

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<v Speaker 2>pops up. The story is.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Josh the investigative journalist. He does so much

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<v Speaker 3>research talking to the families. He ends up going and

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<v Speaker 3>speaking to her and she tells her story about what

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<v Speaker 3>happened from fifteen, how she got there, how she ended

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<v Speaker 3>up there, what life was like there, and how different,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I have goosebumps now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you can see. I have never

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<v Speaker 2>had such a visceral insight into.

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<v Speaker 3>What that life was like. I feel like we read

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of news, like we see a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the news, and there's a lot of propaganda and whatever

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<v Speaker 3>else goes on. But to hear her tell her story

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<v Speaker 3>about how she got there, and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>say too much, why she was there and how different it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was was so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>I was hooked to the whole story. And it's very tragic.

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<v Speaker 3>She tried to come back to England. She tried to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I made a mistake, let me back in, and they

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<v Speaker 3>said no, because she's now deemed as a terrorist. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's a super fascinating story and it has some sad aspects,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's you will not listen to it and cry

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<v Speaker 3>and feel sad. The whole time, so I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>people to feel like you're going to be really really

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<v Speaker 3>depressed listening. It's more fascinating. I found it fascinating. So

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<v Speaker 3>you can get it anywhere you get your podcasts. I

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<v Speaker 3>know I said it's BBC, but I just listened to

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<v Speaker 3>on Apple podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she back in the UK now? No, she's never

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to re enter.

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<v Speaker 2>She's deemed as a terrorist. Yeah, So where does she

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<v Speaker 2>live now?

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's in a She's either in Syria or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Turkey, like like a camp.

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<v Speaker 2>There the end where he goes to talk.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to give it away, but it's very tragic, devastated,

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<v Speaker 3>but please.

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<v Speaker 2>Go and have a listen.

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<v Speaker 3>I learnt so much as well, which I think is

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<v Speaker 3>always really great when you're listening to these podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Jerry John mud bound to look at us. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a little ray of positive sunshines up. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into your question, all right, Question number one. I have

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<v Speaker 1>been seeing a guy for the past eight months. One

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<v Speaker 1>of his previous one night stands reach out to him

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<v Speaker 1>a few months into dating and said that she was pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>We decided to continue seeing each other and it was

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<v Speaker 1>going fairly. Well, the baby was born a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am struggling to be positive and supportive. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that it would be best to just let

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<v Speaker 1>the new father sort out his relationship with his baby

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<v Speaker 1>and the baby's mum before we focus on our relationship

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<v Speaker 1>or could it happen simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a better woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Than I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I would struggle. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost want to say I would let him sort

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<v Speaker 3>it out for a while. I'd let him see and

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<v Speaker 3>then i'd come maybe circle back like a shark, coming

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<v Speaker 3>back towards pray At a little while later. But I

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<v Speaker 3>would have jumped out ages ago, like this is not happening. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you said that, like you were seen him for about

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<v Speaker 3>eight months when you found I would have probably jumped

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<v Speaker 3>ship then. But I do understand that you can develop

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<v Speaker 3>a lot in eight months, like you can get very

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<v Speaker 3>close to someone and have really solid feelings in that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yead.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've obviously felt that and haven't wanted to jump

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<v Speaker 3>ship yet.

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<v Speaker 2>You can for sure do it simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's gonna be a lot of give and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of leeway that you're going to have to give him,

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<v Speaker 3>and you are not going to be a priority right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something you have to accept.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a baby, and the baby's the priority, and

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<v Speaker 3>he is going to have to prioritize his ex.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if he's a good man and a good dad,

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<v Speaker 3>he will want to do the right thing by the

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<v Speaker 3>entire family. That is just something you have to accept.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't mean he's going to put her before you

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<v Speaker 3>or give her more than you, but it is his

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<v Speaker 3>child's mother and it's a very new situation for her.

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<v Speaker 3>She looks like she's probably a single mom unless she's

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<v Speaker 3>moved on as well, so she's going to need a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of help, and he's the person she's going to

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<v Speaker 3>turn to.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that's interesting about this, though, is that she's

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<v Speaker 1>not an ex. She's a one night stand, so they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a relationship. He doesn't have an obligation to

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<v Speaker 1>her necessarily, but he does I think have an obligation

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<v Speaker 1>to the baby. I mean, like I said, you are

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<v Speaker 1>a better woman than I am. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>personally could take on this load of parenting. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>thing is is you're not just now his girlfriend. You

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<v Speaker 1>are also going to play a role as the partner

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<v Speaker 1>of someone who has a small child. So like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys continue on and your relationship gets more serious

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<v Speaker 1>and he is like a good upstanding dude and wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of this kid's life, some point

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<v Speaker 1>down the track, you will play role of stepmom. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's lots of conversations that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>need to have together. But I would be pumping the

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<v Speaker 1>brakes a little bit because I don't think that you

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<v Speaker 1>are ever going to simultaneously get the same amount of attention, affection, priority,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things that you probably did have while

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<v Speaker 1>the baby wasn't actually physically here. I think it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>an attribute that he's a really good guy. If he

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<v Speaker 1>is playing a big and important role in this child's

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<v Speaker 1>life after a one night stand, I think that that

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<v Speaker 1>shows that he's a good person. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be okay with not being a priority

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, just for safety purposes, I would be getting him

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<v Speaker 3>to do a DNA test just because it was a

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<v Speaker 3>one night stand, Like not saying I don't believe her,

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<v Speaker 3>the girl that's had the baby, but there's nothing to say.

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<v Speaker 3>There couldn't have been a lot of different people that

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<v Speaker 3>she was seeing dating hooking up with whatever, like to

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<v Speaker 3>pinpoint an exact day of a one night stand.

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<v Speaker 2>And say it was you.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, we all know how strange ovulation is, and ovulation

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<v Speaker 3>happens not when we think it does, and that's something

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<v Speaker 3>I've recently learned with my ovulation sticks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another story.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would be asking him to say, hey, have

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<v Speaker 3>you thought about like just doubling down and checking that

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<v Speaker 3>it's yours before we commit to a lifetime of being

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<v Speaker 3>a father to a baby. We're not one hundred percent short.

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<v Speaker 1>Is our I mean, maybe they've on that who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she seems pretty certain that he's the father and

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<v Speaker 1>that they're you know. I feel like if you're newly

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<v Speaker 1>dating someone and they came out and said, hey, out

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<v Speaker 1>to a one night stand and this is my baby,

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<v Speaker 1>probably would have had those questions at some point, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I just.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever liked a guy enough to

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<v Speaker 1>like want to withstand this type of situation. I think

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<v Speaker 1>even at the eight month mark, I would have been like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is too much, This is not my circus, these

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<v Speaker 1>are not my clowns. You've got to go and sort

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<v Speaker 1>your life out and come back to me when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when we know that we're going to do this, you

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<v Speaker 1>are giving a lot of leeway to him and how

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to change his life and the impact

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to have on him. I also think it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to step back, not because of him and what

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<v Speaker 1>he's figuring out with the baby, but for yourself because

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<v Speaker 1>you also are taking on a lot. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge place of acceptance that you're expected to get to

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<v Speaker 1>to be totally cool with this situation. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very very normal that you have these feelings. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's very normal that now there's moments of insecurity,

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<v Speaker 1>there's moments of feeling as though you're not the priority.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I would think that it was a crazy wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>situation if that baby had been born and you were

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<v Speaker 1>able to step into this role and go, comele, I'm fine,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's chill, not a problem.

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah whoo. And I get both sides.

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<v Speaker 3>The old, younger Brittany would have said, oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>would have been out the door. But now that I'm

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about it, if I was eight months deep dating

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<v Speaker 3>Ben and then he said, oh my god, like I

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<v Speaker 3>just found out he's having my baby, there's a big

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<v Speaker 3>part of me that probably would have just stayed and

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<v Speaker 3>worked it out because I think of where I was

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<v Speaker 3>mentally with him emotionally eight months deep, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>so in it, you know already, so I understand what

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 3>you're saying. The other thing is it's hard to know.

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<v Speaker 3>You said, I'm struggling to be positive and supportive. This

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 3>is like a double edged sword because completely normal to

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<v Speaker 3>be struggling and trying to be supportive when this whole

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 3>life changes happened and there's this new, little, tiny human

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<v Speaker 3>being that's going to be in your life forever. That

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 3>is so normal to feel that this early on. But

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<v Speaker 3>on the other hand, you have to ask yourself, do

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<v Speaker 3>you think that that feeling will ever go or do

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<v Speaker 3>you think you're always going to struggle in that role?

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Because if you think it's something that you will always

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<v Speaker 3>be playing second fiddle to and almost holding a bit

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 3>of animosity, like, because there's a big part of you

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 3>that I imagine is going to think, imagine how different

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 3>our life would have been if that didn't happen.

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Imagine how different our dating would be. Would you know,

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<v Speaker 2>are you always going.

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<v Speaker 3>To hold that resentment towards this other life that he

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 3>now has, and that's only a question that you can answer.

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<v Speaker 1>In saying that as well, he has a pretty big

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>responsibility to reassure you, Like it's not just all up

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<v Speaker 1>to you to feel okay and be fine with this,

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Like he's not in a relationship with the other woman. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he has a relationship with the child, and he has

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<v Speaker 1>to have like a healthy, amicable co parenting relationship with

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the other woman. He should also be doing the reassurance

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<v Speaker 1>and the repair work with you. And I'm also guessing

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>that this is a very little newborn baby, which means

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the baby's not having sleepovers with dad. The baby's with mum.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably having visitations with the baby. They might be

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<v Speaker 1>spending some time together. But in that case, like it

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<v Speaker 1>should be okay for you to also meet the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>for you to also come and be included in this

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<v Speaker 1>world to whatever capacity all three of you are comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that their relationship happens in silo, and

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<v Speaker 1>I say that because they're not in a relationship together,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I really think that, like there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of conversations that need to happen mutually between the two

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<v Speaker 1>of you and also three way between all of you

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<v Speaker 1>for this to get to a place where everyone feels comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would think it's not even about the reassurance.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it's about the life changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you want the rest of your life to look

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 3>like you've been a stepmom to this child. There's nothing

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 3>wrong with that. It's just down to what you want

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 3>and what you think you're capable of that stuff, all right,

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Next question question two. I have match with someone on hinge,

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 3>and in my of course pre stalking, I have realized

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 3>I actually have slept with his younger brother about eight

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 3>years ago.

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Fine, so fine?

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 3>Do you think it's a big deal? They are close families,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't know whether to just stop talking to

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 3>him now or keep pursuing in home. He doesn't care

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes up eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, this is totally It's so fine. Eight years ago

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you forgot. I forgot people I slept with eight years ago.

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I could walk passing the street. I wouldn't know their names.

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<v Speaker 2>People that I had slept eight years ago have not

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<v Speaker 2>forgotten me.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, I've been with my husband for eight years,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a lie. But like, there would definitely be

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<v Speaker 1>people who I've slept who have been inside me and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember.

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember. Yeah, we've established this. You're wild.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Well I wasn't that wild. I just have a terrible memory.

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember any of their names.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't, you know.

0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't think you need to remember names, but you

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 3>need to remember something about them, like policemen or Brazil or.

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was that you have both of those on

0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>my list. Wonderful it was the same policeman. Look, I

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>think eight years ago. It also depends did you just

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>sleep together. Did you have a relationship together? Nah, I

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>just I think I just slept with Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine. What I would do is I would keep

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>dating him. I would, you know, wait, go and suss

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>it out. You might even like this guy, like you

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>might just be chatting to him and he might be

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<v Speaker 1>in nothing, a blip on your radar. Go and have

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<v Speaker 1>a date. Go and see if you like him, And

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<v Speaker 1>if you actually like him and things are going somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>then at some point in the future, be like, oh

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>my god, I have just realized I think I fucked

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<v Speaker 1>you me. I think I think I might have hooked

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<v Speaker 1>up with your brother a while ago. I know this

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>is horribly awkward. It was so long ago. I actually

0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>don't even remember if we did all we didn't, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think I did.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the timeframe, though, When does she no like, when

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 4>does she have to tell the person that she's now dating.

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that she goes on a few dates with

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<v Speaker 1>him first, and if it's getting to a point where

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>she actually has feelings, room likes him and it seems

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>as though it's going in that direction, before you're too committed, before.

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 5>I invites you to the family dinner, not Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Rose, Sunday Rose, I disagree.

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't ever bring it up until it has to

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 3>be brought up, because all that shows is how I

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 3>stalked you and I saw that I brother. Then I

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 3>decided to keep it from you until the Sunday Roast.

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I think what I would do, I would just date him.

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 3>At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. It

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 3>was eight years ago and you hooked up with him,

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 3>big deal. They'll probably high five each other. The brother's

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 3>got to sleep with the same girl, knowing them.

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<v Speaker 2>Flack, I do.

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 3>I would just date him. You may never want to

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 3>see him again, and then who cares. You don't know

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 3>if you like him? Yeah, if you are actually it's

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 3>going really well, and you think it's going to turn

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 3>into something until it actually, I think, is presented to you.

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 3>So whether like you're looking at Instagrams or you're showing

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 3>a photo, or he's talking about something where it's so

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 3>obvious that you have to say it, like something about

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 3>the family, that's when you bring it up. But I

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 3>think it's really weird after a couple of dates, be like, look,

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 3>I've got a confession and fucked Bobby.

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>That's weird to me. It really depends. It depends on

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 1>what the relationship was. If it was a one night stand,

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you ever need to tell him because

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to have.

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Known, or because at dinner at the roast, the brother's

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 3>gonna be like, hey, Shelley, I think we've met.

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>We fucked eight years ago.

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't it be worse if she acted like she didn't remember,

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.360
<v Speaker 4>but the brother did remember, And then the brother told

0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 4>the brother.

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 2>That's what would happen, and he was like.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think she remembers.

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Though, that's fine.

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Let's feel like you were so insignificant to me, but

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 1>your brother I will never forget the brother as in

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>like the guy that she's dating. I don't know. Look,

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I agree, I don't think that there is an easy

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>way around this. I think it's very precarious and you

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>need to be careful. But the one thing you don't

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>want is to like, really have feelings with this guy,

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>for him to really have feelings of you, and.

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>For the old little brother to waltz.

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>On in and be like, hey, got there first, have

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>my sloppy seconds. That's an awful thing to say, but

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 1>you know siblings can suck, so he might.

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 3>The thing is, even if it's not a big issue,

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.480
<v Speaker 3>this is something else you have to think, right, like, Okay,

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 3>we're getting ahead of ourselves here.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 2>This is what we do. It goes well, you're dating,

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you're in the family. It's all accepted. You get married one.

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 5>Day in the family or the family in you.

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>The family's in you, and you're in the family. Family

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 2>has been inside you. It's a cyprocal relationship.

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 3>It's always going to be there and every family dinner,

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 3>everyone's gonna know that you fucked them both.

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Everything from there on in. It will always be in

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 2>the back of your head.

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Now, we have had people in the past, and I'm

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 3>sure more people will write in, and I encourage you

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 3>to write in and tell your stories. We have had

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 3>people in the past that have done this. There's been

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 3>people that have been in full on marriages and ended

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 3>up leaving and being with the brother.

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not I don't want to say it's not

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 2>the worst thing. That's pretty bad.

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 3>I think if you've been married for thirty years and

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 3>you live with the brother, but it's it's okay if

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 3>it works.

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.240
<v Speaker 1>It's not unfathomable, and it doesn't mean that it's insurmountable,

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>but it does mean that there is a mountain to

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 1>get over.

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm let's not play this down. This is a problem.

0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.959
<v Speaker 1>If someone I liked, who I'd been on several dates

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>with came to me and said, hey, wow, I just

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>realized I had sex with your sister, I would get

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>instant ick vibes. So I would find it difficult. And

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not because I guess for me, I wouldn't want

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 1>to be second to my sister, like I would find

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>that a challenging thing to mentally get over. I would

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>hope that some people are on my side. Maybe they're not,

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>and maybe everyone is more open minded than I am.

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I would too if Sherry was fucking someone. I wouldn't

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 3>date that person ever, because.

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 2>That I want to vote me in my mouth.

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>What if Ben came to you eight months after you've

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>been dating I said I'm having a baby.

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 3>With That is not even on That is not even

0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:30.719
<v Speaker 3>remotely close to this situation.

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.800
<v Speaker 1>If Ben came to you seven months you've seen baby

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Maya looks a lot.

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Like Ben long face, and not a lot like her husband. Jay.

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean it, What would you have done? If I

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 1>mean it too, I wouldn't dame him. I don't, yes,

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and I don't mean having a baby obviously. I mean

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>if you'd come to you a couple of months after

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you'd met, You've gone over there to Letty, Sweden, wherever

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you went to and saw him, You went over the

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>mean Scotland.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Is he?

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 2>What is he?

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>He went over to Scotland, hung out with him for

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that Christmas, came home, was like, I'm so obsessed with him,

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>and then he said, hey, I've just realized I think

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I slept with your sister a few months back.

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 3>That's actually feasible because Cherry was living in Scotland, down

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 3>the road from where he was. Yes, So then what

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 3>would you have I would not date him. I couldn't,

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.680
<v Speaker 3>But I do think there's an answer. No, I do

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 3>think there's a difference, and I hate to say it,

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 3>but it's true. I think there's a difference with men

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 3>and women. I think more men would be okay with

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 3>dating someone that their brother had hooked up with in

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 3>the past than women.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I truly do. I don't know if I agree with that.

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it's different. Guys don't look at it the same,

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 3>and the science behind is right, Guys don't.

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Where is it? We've spoken about it a hundred times.

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:48.879
<v Speaker 1>I like article when Brittany's trying to make a point,

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>she just goes, there's research behind this. We don't have

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 1>ans to it right now, but there is.

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 3>Dolly Magazine, women have sex and form connections, and field

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 3>sex means more to women on a high percentage than

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 3>it means to men.

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 2>We know that.

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 3>But what I'm saying is I don't believe that brothers

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 3>would have as big of an issue as sisters.

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>If you're listening to this, which you obviously are, please

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 1>go and ask your boyfriends or your brothers, or the

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 1>partners in your life. I need to know how the

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>men in your life feel about this because I strongly

0:37:22.160 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily agree, but I'm happy to be wrong about this.

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone would feel I think everyone would feel

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>weird about the person they like sleeping with their sibling.

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I think everyone would feel a bit like, Oh, John O,

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>how would you feel? JOHNO says it would be so

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:42.239
<v Speaker 1>too weird? Hey, the brother's always there.

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 4>But would you rather know at the start or when

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 4>it was late, when you were deep in the fields.

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>You'd rather know at the start or in your marriage vows?

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Which one I do promise to fuck you and your

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>brother's threats I will.

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:03.400
<v Speaker 1>There is great genes in this family.

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, next question.

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Question three. I think I hate my partner's cat, and

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is a question that my husband

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>has written it in.

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I it's so dumb.

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.319
<v Speaker 1>It's a real problem. What if you hate the thing

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 1>that's most important?

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 2>It is, No, it is I just wasn't expecting that

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.320
<v Speaker 2>to be the next question. It's very important. Please continue. Okay.

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been with my partner for two years now, committed deep,

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>we love each other, we live together, and I know

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that he is my penguin. However, there is just one problem,

0:38:33.239 --> 0:38:35.319
<v Speaker 1>and it is his cat. Don't get me wrong, I

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.360
<v Speaker 1>am the biggest animal lover, and I would love to

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:40.040
<v Speaker 1>think of myself as quite a patient person. But I

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.919
<v Speaker 1>have tried for our entire relationship to bond with this cat,

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and while there has been some moments, the majority of

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it has just felt transactional and filled with a lack

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of unconditional love that you would get from a dog.

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:51.319
<v Speaker 2>That's because it's a.

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Cat, which I've grown up with. He also constantly meows,

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and often when I try to show him love, he scratches.

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 2>And bites me.

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 1>It's actually at a point now where I become anxious

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.439
<v Speaker 1>from the constant meowing. The cat's eating well, so that's

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 1>not the issue, and the cat is three years old

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 1>and well trained. My partner absolutely adores this cat, and

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>it's recently become apparent to him that well, I don't

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 1>exactly feel the same. However, I am at the point

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>where I actually cannot stand it. I don't know what

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to do.

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Please help. There's nothing you can do fair.

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 1>That cat's going to live for twenty four years.

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I reckon this is fair.

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 3>This is actually quite a serious question, and I think

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 3>that this is quite a frequent issue with a lot

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 3>of people. There are kinds of animals that I wouldn't

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 3>date someone if they had because people treat their animals

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 3>like family. And if I put myself in that situation,

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 3>if my animal really didn't like, like if Delilah really

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't like who I was dating, it's genuinely a problem

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 3>in your household. Like I know families that had to

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 3>go and get like proper experts in therapy because of

0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 3>the issues they have.

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 2>With the animals and the couple. The couple's being ripped apart.

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I personally don't get cats. I don't get them. I

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:06.640
<v Speaker 3>don't get what they think. I don't get why. I

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 3>don't get the use of them. They're always like little

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 3>well like dogs, I get because you go running their companion,

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 3>you go swimming or whatever it is, right, But for cats,

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:17.479
<v Speaker 3>maybe I haven't been around the right cat.

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Every cat I've seen just scratches and shits.

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 3>And rips about your furniture and like, it doesn't what

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 3>the fuck are you giving me?

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 5>I was like, I.

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Don't understand its purpose because if a cat chooses not

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 3>to like you, which they do, right, they either like

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 3>you as a human or they don't.

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 2>If it doesn't like you, why is it there? It

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.879
<v Speaker 2>just ruins your furniture. You don't even get to pat it.

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 2>It's great. It hurt physically hurts you, so I don't.

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a catty person.

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>If you didn't, Yeah, we can read between the lines.

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I think that cats just know they know who is

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 1>superior in a household. She knows that she loves him.

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't need you, and you're getting between the two

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of them from having their exclusive relationship, and she.

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't like it. I do anything.

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>You gotta suck it up. And you also have to

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>pretend like you like that cat because your husband or

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>your partner's gonna hate it. It's interesting because we have

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a kind of similar dynamic in our household. I really

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:12.440
<v Speaker 1>wanted a cat. As you guys know, I love cats.

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I do understand them. I think they are beautiful creatures.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>But I equally love dogs, and I think that you

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>get very different things from a cat and a dog.

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I quite like that. Cats are very autonomous and

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 1>they will only love you if they think you're worthy,

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 1>and I think that that's cool, whereas a dog will

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.240
<v Speaker 1>love anyone like a dog's not going to distribt Delilah

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>would leave you in a second. She would leave you

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 1>in the park for someone else if they had a treat.

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 3>So I can't only offensive because it's true.

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I love the loyalty of a cat, right, I love that.

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 1>The funny thing is is that every time a person

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.799
<v Speaker 1>describes their cat when they have a great one, they're like,

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of like a dog, and I'm like, no,

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>you just you actually just like dogs then, because your cat,

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, People are like, my cat's different.

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.040
<v Speaker 1>She's kind of a bit like a dog, And I'm like, yeah,

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you like dogs, you like dogs. Rasby, for example, like

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>curls up on Lala's out of a night time now

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and she's getting sweeter and more lovely, Whereas when we

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.439
<v Speaker 1>brought her home she was a real bus stop cat.

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Like she she was like, I'm from the streets, and

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>she would scratch you if she walked past, like if

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you walkedst Yeah, she hangs over the kitchen stool like this,

0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and if you walk past too close to her stool,

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>she goes ah at you. And so there was a

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 1>while there where mad that's awful. Yeah, oh look, it

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 1>keeps you on your toes.

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:27.920
<v Speaker 4>When I was at your house, like a week ago,

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 4>Laura kind of wore me because she was getting stuff

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 4>out of the car and I walked ahead and she

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 4>was like, oh, you know, just be careful with Raspberry,

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 4>like you know, and I was.

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 5>Kind of bracing myself, but then I walked down.

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>You were putting her, won't.

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 5>I gave her all the cheek scratchies and she's doing

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 5>the like one of nights.

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 1>What's the call when they do?

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 4>They like rub up against you with each of their

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 4>cheeks and they switch sides, rub their faces.

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>It's not a name for it.

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 5>She was doing that for Asias and I thought you

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 5>were just I was like, is this the cat you're talking?

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>The thing with Cat? So is that they can do

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that for ages and then all of a sudden something

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>changes and they just go and you don't know if

0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>it's coming. It's like you get really tricked into thinking

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>that they love you and then they will fuck you up.

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:07.959
<v Speaker 2>That's why you like it. It's every relationship you've ever had.

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Cat, that's my toxic relationship.

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>You're like, I don't know she's gonna love it today.

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>So I relate to this question very much because I

0:43:16.840 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>think that we definitely like Matt definitely has a love

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>hate relationship with Raspberry. But I love Raspberry, and he

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 1>made the sacrifice to have her. He you know, he

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, whatever, if you want a cat, you can

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>take care of the cat and we can have one.

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't mean that he has to love her

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 1>as much as I do. Like it doesn't affect our relationship,

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and it shouldn't affect yours, Like I think he can

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>have a really strong and close bond with the cat,

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and as so long as you're like kind to it,

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 1>you still feed it and pat it and you treat

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 1>it with respect and kindness, you don't have to love

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>it like that's not a mandatory of having a good

0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 1>relationship loving their pet as much as they love their pet.

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's also.

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.839
<v Speaker 3>Other things here on a serious note, Like you have

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.879
<v Speaker 3>developed anxiety over here in its meals, there are other

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.280
<v Speaker 3>things that you need to go and investigate here, because

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 3>something like that shouldn't give you that high level of anxiety.

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.280
<v Speaker 1>If it's mewing that much, it's probably bored. To be honest,

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>it might be fed and healthy and everything else, but

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>cats don't just I mean, you can get shatty cats,

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>but they don't mew all through the day. It's like

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>dogs that bark all through the day. It's usually because

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>they're also bored, anxious, there's something else going on. So

0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:21.320
<v Speaker 1>that could be a conversation that you have with your partner.

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I understand why that would get annoying, like that is

0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely something to have a conversation about. But overarchingly, you

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>moved into the house with someone who has a cat,

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:32.960
<v Speaker 1>and it just sounds like you actually don't really like

0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>cats that much.

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 3>I think if you ever go to Hum and say

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 3>it's the cat or me, he'll probably choose the cat.

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 2>To do that.

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>And Matt knows it, so he'd never do that to me.

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't choose the cat now over Matt. Yeah, no,

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.839
<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't do You're so fool of it. I would

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 3>like the cat would never make me choose, But.

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:51.479
<v Speaker 2>I feel like Brittany, here's a cat.

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 5>The cat.

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>The cat would never give me an ultimatum. Raspberry wouldn't

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>do that. Although Raspberry still thinks she's a gutter cat.

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:00.439
<v Speaker 1>She like she struts around that house like I don't

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 1>need this bondopad. You fucking plush pitches she's got back

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>in the bush shelter where I belong.

0:45:05.719 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 2>And see how quickly she runs. She's a street cat

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 2>at heart.

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Last question, My best friend of five years has just

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 3>told me that ever since we've been friends, she has

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.560
<v Speaker 3>been lying and that her younger brother is actually not

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 3>her brother at all. She told me he was her

0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 3>biological brother, that he has the same mom, but he

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 3>didn't speak with their mom and lives with his dad

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 3>and stepmom. The whole time, she's referred to him as

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 3>her brother, and even when I have asked about their mom,

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:37.960
<v Speaker 3>she would say something along the lines of, oh, he

0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 3>just prefers to be with his stepmom.

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 2>She said.

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:42.480
<v Speaker 3>She told me when she was drunk and just kept

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 3>the light going, but it went too far, so she

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 3>thought she could never say anything directify the problem. He

0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 3>is now apparently just like a brother, so it was

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 3>like he's a family friend. The truths come out, he's

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 3>a family friend that she says, oh, he's like a brother,

0:45:55.760 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 3>but he's actually got no relation whatsoever. She said, now

0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 3>that she's about to get mad, she doesn't want me

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:02.879
<v Speaker 3>to question it at the wedding when she sees him,

0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:04.839
<v Speaker 3>so she thought it was time to fess us.

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:07.319
<v Speaker 1>So she was gonna get sprung for her lie, so

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:09.319
<v Speaker 1>she had to be honest about the fact that she

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:09.879
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a brother.

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Yep, she goes, I don't know how this feels to me.

0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't feel that deep. But at the same time,

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 3>I've been lied to you by my best friend for

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 3>five years, so it feels quite icky and a little

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 3>bit too weird. My question is should I be mad

0:46:21.200 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 3>and upset or is it not that big of an

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 3>issue in the past. I feel like she does tend

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.279
<v Speaker 3>to lie a little bit, as I have caught her

0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:29.760
<v Speaker 3>out before about a few things.

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Keen to hear what you think.

0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 3>It's so funny, but more a random thing to lie about,

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 3>like a brother who has this elaborate lie that lives

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 3>with another family.

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 1>It's so stupid. It is so stupid. Would you, like,

0:46:44.560 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 1>should you still be friends with her? I don't think

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 1>that was the question. My answer to that is, yeah,

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 1>like still be friends with her. But Britt, if I

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 1>found out now this far into our friendship that Sherry

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>actually wasn't your sister and she was just a friend

0:46:57.640 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 1>and she was like a sister to you, and you

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 1>had lied about the intricacies of it, would make me

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.480
<v Speaker 1>question not what kind of person you are, but it

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 1>would make me think you're a lot more bat shit

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>crazy than I think you already think you are, you know,

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'd be like, wow, you're you're actually super

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>weird and that's not a normal thing to do. So cool,

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll be your best friend, but just know that I've

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 1>clocked it that you're a weirdo.

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:19.600
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:24.359
<v Speaker 3>Families are complicated, even fake families even more complicated.

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>That's hard.

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 3>If this was role reversal, and I found out now

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.680
<v Speaker 3>that Alisha, your sister wasn't in fact your sister.

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe go with my brother because that could be more

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>believable because no one's ever seen him. He lives overseas.

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.960
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't exist. He does exist.

0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I do have a brother. He lives in Boston. He's married.

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>He came on a family cruise recently with us, and

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone met him. Yeah I know, but everyone was like,

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you have a brother, and I was like, Kay,

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 1>that's my brother. Imagine if I was like, actually, he's

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:52.839
<v Speaker 1>just his family friend and uncle that comes on trips.

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 2>I genuinely wouldn't care that much.

0:47:54.760 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 3>And I don't know if I'm an outlier, I would

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 3>be like cool, weird thing to lie about, But I

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 3>don't think i'd lose sleep about it. Maybe that's me,

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:04.160
<v Speaker 3>but I just think there's big things to lie about.

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 3>The lie hasn't been to manipulate you in any way.

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 3>It hasn't been to get anything from you, hasn't been

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:11.320
<v Speaker 3>detriment to you. God knows why she did it, because

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 3>it's it seems like it's a lie that didn't have

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 3>to be told. It has nothing to do with anything.

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 3>I just think you're weird, but I wouldn't Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't break up the friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. My question is, if you find out your

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<v Speaker 1>friend has lied to you about something that seems insignificant,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe go back to when the lie was first told

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<v Speaker 1>and try and remember, like, what was the conversation surrounding it,

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<v Speaker 1>and did that lie make them sound a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>cooler or a little bit more like they had something

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<v Speaker 1>in common with you, or like did the lie come

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<v Speaker 1>from something because they were trying to make themselves more

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<v Speaker 1>appealing or likable or whatever else to you? Who knows.

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she was like, oh, yeah, I have a brother

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<v Speaker 1>too who is x y Z or my parents are

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<v Speaker 1>divorced and he lives with my stepmom, Like maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to relate to you on some level. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm trying to unpack this from a I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>Qualified, but I don't know what would make you cooler

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<v Speaker 3>to be like, yeah, my brother lives with this stepmom.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think there are people who who lie without

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<v Speaker 1>When I say without consequence, what I mean is is

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<v Speaker 1>that they lie so frequently that it's second nature to

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<v Speaker 1>them to fabricate stories, and they don't even realize that

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<v Speaker 1>they're necessarily doing it until they're in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>they're totally caught out on their lives, Like some people

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<v Speaker 1>do have that behavioral trait. And I would go, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>you can totally be friends with people who tell lots

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<v Speaker 1>of white lies, but definitely be careful with how much

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<v Speaker 1>of a friend you let them in. And if you said, oh, yeah,

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>she does lie quite a bit, I've caught her out

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<v Speaker 1>in quite a few things. I wouldn't break up the

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<v Speaker 1>friendship or anything like that. I definitely wouldn't lose sleep

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<v Speaker 1>over it, but I would clock it, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>keep her at a comfortable distance from things that really

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<v Speaker 1>affect me. I think, And I say this because I

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<v Speaker 1>do have a friend in my life who tells lots

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<v Speaker 1>of white lies, and I love her. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>really great time and we have good friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you've only got three friends.

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<v Speaker 3>They're all.

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<v Speaker 2>You fucking I don't trust the bitch plan.

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I know two weeks she wanted it every day and

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<v Speaker 1>it just died.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this though, like, I do have a friend

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<v Speaker 1>in my life that comes to mind instantly when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this, who has told lots of white lies

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, and it doesn't affect me. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>upset me, it doesn't bother me. But I definitely notice

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<v Speaker 1>it sometimes when I'm like, that's not entirely true, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of makes me be a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more cautious with things that I share with them, that's all.

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<v Speaker 1>And I reckon that that's probably what this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to do to your relationship. The only reason why this

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<v Speaker 1>has come out now after five years is because you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to her wedding and you're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>her brother. And that would be weird as fuck if

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<v Speaker 1>you were like, oh my gosh, I've been so looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to meeting you know, your girlfriend's brother, and there

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<v Speaker 1>he is and he's like, we're not related.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just the only reason why she told you was

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<v Speaker 1>because she was gonna get caught out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd also just ask her why, like, hey, why'd you

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<v Speaker 3>tell me your brother when it's not like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think this isn't a relationship that you found out your

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 3>partner's cheating or whatever. It's just like your friend said

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 3>she had a brother, and she doesn't just say like,

0:51:01.080 --> 0:51:03.360
<v Speaker 3>where did that come from? Because she said he's like

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<v Speaker 3>a brother. And I think how many times in the

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<v Speaker 3>past I have said that. I remember there was like sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're telling that's me.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes when you're telling a story about someone that's so

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<v Speaker 3>involved in your life to people, it's easier not to

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<v Speaker 3>get into the specifics or something like we used to

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 3>have a family friend that is not related to us.

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<v Speaker 3>It was my mum's best friend, and we used to

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<v Speaker 3>refer to her within us as like an auntie.

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, she's an auntie.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you're telling the story to people, I used

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<v Speaker 3>to say, oh, my one of my aunties used to

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<v Speaker 3>do that, or one of my auntie has this or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you I'd never used to specify to that

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 3>person like she's not actually an auntie, she's a because

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:41.000
<v Speaker 3>when they met this you got to remember they're best

0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 3>friends now when they met I imagine that's how the

0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 3>story was told. It's like, oh, my brother.

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<v Speaker 1>That slightly different because everybody, I mean, we are raised

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<v Speaker 1>to call our parents. I mean not everyone, but you know,

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I do it with my own kids. A lot of

0:51:55.520 --> 0:52:01.640
<v Speaker 1>people are raised to call their parents best friends Auntie, Matt, Wow.

0:52:03.080 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Auntie, Laura, uncle Matt.

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:06.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, like that's a normal thing. We call my

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:10.080
<v Speaker 1>best friend Kaya Aunti, Kaya, You're Annie, Keisha, You're Annie, Brittany.

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:10.960
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Marley and Lola currently don't know the difference between their

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<v Speaker 1>real aunties and all their friend aunties, but I got

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:18.839
<v Speaker 1>like fifty. But I think that that's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>different because I don't think many people grow up referring

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<v Speaker 1>to another person as their brother or their sister, unless

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>that person is like a step brother or they're like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an adopted sibling.

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<v Speaker 4>I have two boys in my life that we grew

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<v Speaker 4>up across the road, so our moms kind of took

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:38.279
<v Speaker 4>turns in driving us to school, and she was very

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 4>much a second mum to me, and I refer to

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<v Speaker 4>those boys as like my brothers, you have very sibling

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 4>like relationships.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason I don't think that this is the same

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:48.400
<v Speaker 5>is because she made.

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<v Speaker 2>Up the weird backstory.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah about living with the step mom. Do you know

0:52:51.640 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 5>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I can see how if I was saying, oh, like,

0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 4>you know my brother blah blah blah, and I just

0:52:57.200 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 4>forgot to tell you that it wasn't actually a biological relationship.

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 4>If that just continued and I never clarified, I can

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 4>get that you'd be like, oh, you know, she just

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:08.719
<v Speaker 4>might have slipped up and not really giving you the backstory.

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 5>But she actually faked a backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong, I think we're all agree it's

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:17.080
<v Speaker 1>it's weird. The whole thing is weird. But I definitely

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.359
<v Speaker 1>think that there are people out there who don't have

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 1>any qualms with telling white lies. It's almost like a

0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a fantasy that sometimes they make up

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:29.680
<v Speaker 1>stories that genuinely haven't happened, or are an inflated version

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 1>of what's happened because it makes them more interesting, or

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just how they've managed to get through socializing. I

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:37.399
<v Speaker 1>don't even know how to describe it. Maybe she wants

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a brother desperately so, or like people who will say

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I've been there, and it's like, but you've never been

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to the Philippines, But then they're telling you a story

0:53:45.200 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>about how they've been to.

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<v Speaker 2>The Philippines before. So it happened, la have you ever?

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, just me, I haven't been disted liars people.

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Who lie, but like, I know that liars exist, but

0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 4>I just don't know why you'd do it for literally

0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:01.399
<v Speaker 4>no gain.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely think a lot of people do it because

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 1>it makes them more interesting. I think that that's the motivation,

0:54:06.320 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 1>or they think it makes them more interesting, and then

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's become a bit of a habit to

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 1>them that they just get carried away with a story

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.120
<v Speaker 1>and then one thing leads to another, and then that's

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:17.439
<v Speaker 1>married to four people, Like do you know what I mean?

0:54:17.800 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not condoning it by any means, and I definitely

0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:22.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's weird, but I have seen it in people before.

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<v Speaker 1>I would struggle with them being my best friends, you know.

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I could definitely have them in my close

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:30.400
<v Speaker 1>network and be close friends with them, but this idea

0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of them, you know, I think of like a best

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 1>friend as the person you can go to with anything

0:54:33.880 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>about your life. And if I didn't quite trust that

0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>they were always honest with me, then I would really

0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 1>struggle with that. So I think that without realizing it,

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:45.040
<v Speaker 1>it would affect my even though it's insignificant, even though

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just a weird lie, it still would affect the

0:54:48.560 --> 0:54:52.640
<v Speaker 1>way that I view that person in some ways interesting. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>my loves that. That is it from us. We are

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<v Speaker 1>back and we are all ready and wearing for this

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<v Speaker 1>new schedule and programming. Would we back on Wednesday? Your

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<v Speaker 1>a reminder, we will be in your podcast library at

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<v Speaker 1>six am on Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Big Juicy catch Up.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have a little discussion on how our breaks were.

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<v Speaker 2>We all did very different things.

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<v Speaker 1>We did very different things, and we'll be back on Wednesday.

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