Speaker 1: Can you just give us a clap? Just no, you
Speaker 1: got at the point is this is not?
Speaker 2: This is not and I repeat it.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to two doting parents today. I am Ash
Speaker 1: and we have April. For those of you who don't know,
Speaker 1: April is my wife, uh and the mother of my children,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. And she's filling in for our
Speaker 1: friend Mattie Jay who is still in the jungle. This
Speaker 1: is a parenting podcast. It's all about the good, the bad,
Speaker 1: and the ugly.
Speaker 3: Is that what you say?
Speaker 1: No relatable?
Speaker 3: Relatable?
Speaker 1: Do you even listen? You definitely don't listen, do you?
Speaker 1: I know, I do, I do? I do catch you
Speaker 1: giggling away? Yeah, favorite episode.
Speaker 4: I did thoroughly enjoy the one where we did all
Speaker 4: four of us?
Speaker 1: What about whipper oh?
Speaker 4: That actually that was my favorite guest episode for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I told you that.
Speaker 1: You did tell her that. Well, let's start with last night.
Speaker 1: You and I did a live stream goggle Box style,
Speaker 1: not as an audition, with Matt's food eating challenge. Do
Speaker 1: you recall I do recall.
Speaker 4: I recall you asking me when I was mid work
Speaker 4: and I was agreeing to it without realizing what I
Speaker 4: was agreeing to.
Speaker 3: So thanks for that.
Speaker 1: I strategically I didn't even ask you. I told you
Speaker 1: and you were like mid email, yeah and you were
Speaker 1: like that fun. Yeah yeah. And then I've left for
Speaker 1: the day, yeah come back and said you ready, and
Speaker 1: you were like, fuck, what do we do it?
Speaker 4: Well? I actually had a couple of girlfriends screenshot what
Speaker 4: two doting dad's share and I was like, what's this happening?
Speaker 4: Was this?
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my gosh, what is happening?
Speaker 3: What if I agreed to?
Speaker 1: Whoops?
Speaker 3: But no, it was fine in the end. It was fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good. It was fun to watch Matt
Speaker 1: suffer this. Maddie did alright. So first of all, Maddie
Speaker 1: did the trial at Tucker Trial with Reggie and Max.
Speaker 1: Max is the TikToker and Reggie is going blind.
Speaker 3: I think she's more than that, she's a mum.
Speaker 1: She's going blind. Thoughts on the food initially, do you
Speaker 1: know what?
Speaker 3: I feel like they've done worse things in the jungle.
Speaker 1: I saw a heap of comments on the Tiktoks like
Speaker 1: the UK it must be UK people being like UK people,
Speaker 1: the people from the UK saying oh this is way
Speaker 1: worse than the UK one. This is way worse like
Speaker 1: it was, like it was better.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think when you've got the liquid, like there was
Speaker 4: a smoothie, there was a cappuccino, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like that would be a lot easier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they used to do a lot well, I think
Speaker 1: because they used to exploit more animals.
Speaker 3: But now Robert irwins, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So first one they had was the bed bugs.
Speaker 1: Are they really bed bugs? They're huge?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not bed bugs, but to be fair, they
Speaker 4: did look a little bit like oats. So I feel
Speaker 4: like if he just changed his mindset, yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Actually munths do that pretty quick. The next one he
Speaker 1: had was the crapper Chino. It looks like a delicious
Speaker 1: frape of some description mickfraffe, if you, if you will,
Speaker 1: a re sponsored by McDonald's, no lambtungue and esophocus with
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Speaker 1: know that.
Speaker 4: I just wonder how they can drink that and not
Speaker 4: get sick later? Like how much is it, truthfully what
Speaker 4: they're saying. That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: You call conspiracy. I like it, Matt said, and two
Speaker 1: quote Matt, it tastes like I'm eating shit, perfect good
Speaker 1: it be used to it. And then the last one
Speaker 1: was a combined meal they all ate, which was a
Speaker 1: Brecky bowl, which Man and I quite often when we
Speaker 1: do record eat a Brecky bowl from the cafe down
Speaker 1: the road. So he would have been stoked when this
Speaker 1: came out. It has horse anus, chicken heart, beef tripe,
Speaker 1: and liver.
Speaker 4: What surprised me in this one is the fact he
Speaker 4: chose the anus.
Speaker 1: He openly chose anhole.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know what was the last one? The chicken, liver,
Speaker 4: beef tripe. What, Oh, that's the one that looked like avocado. Yeah,
Speaker 4: imagine that's sliding down your gallot easier. The horse as
Speaker 4: looked a little bit like a dim sim. It did, actually,
Speaker 4: I was thinking dim.
Speaker 1: Dim sim, dim sim, dim sim, And that probably was
Speaker 1: moist enough to swallow it all.
Speaker 3: I think it was a dim sim.
Speaker 1: So would that mean that he'd poop out an asshole
Speaker 1: out of his arsehole?
Speaker 3: You could say that?
Speaker 1: Very good? I thought they did really well. They got
Speaker 1: all thirteen stars. Third, yeah, they got all thirteen stars,
Speaker 1: which surprisingly you did recall when we gave Matt a
Speaker 1: Sentry egg.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he was hidering how much he failed at that.
Speaker 4: I'm actually surprised.
Speaker 1: I did better than him. He ate the eel really well.
Speaker 1: But the Century egg was like a dirty pond. And
Speaker 1: they brang one out for Max last night, and they
Speaker 1: looked like they poached it.
Speaker 3: It looked like it had a coating of some sort
Speaker 3: of flavor.
Speaker 1: It didn't look like the one we had. Ours was
Speaker 1: still yours was brown. It was in the shell still
Speaker 1: such I think they might have cooked cooked it. So
Speaker 1: Jess potentially our produceder put us at risk with a
Speaker 1: raw Sentry egg. So God was still here. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: thought they did really well. They didn't considering We did
Speaker 1: call Laura and Marley midway through the challenge. Marley was
Speaker 1: still awake, Yeah, and she thought it was discussed as
Speaker 1: you would, but she was holding up compared to the
Speaker 1: first time, where she cried a lot.
Speaker 3: That's true the first time she watched him.
Speaker 1: I feel like she's sort of used to him now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably watched him every night now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, enough of that. Just go and vote for Matt please.
Speaker 1: As much as I want him back, I'm enjoying these
Speaker 1: episodes where he's not here I get to look at April,
Speaker 1: which it's my lucky day, April. I do want to
Speaker 1: start with one thing with you. If I want to
Speaker 1: ask you something and what your thoughts are Oscar and
Speaker 1: Poppa's relationship. Describe it for me. How would you describe it?
Speaker 4: Popper is Oscar's slave, if anything, best friend who's a slave.
Speaker 1: Just describe what you saw this morning. For those it
Speaker 1: is school holidays. Poppa is April's dad, Frank, and he
Speaker 1: looks after Oscar on a Wednesday during a school holiday,
Speaker 1: and today's Wednesday, and he picks him up from our place.
Speaker 4: April was I was driving up back home because I
Speaker 4: dropped Macy off and I drove past Papa and Oscar
Speaker 4: and there's Oscar, window down all the way down, the
Speaker 4: breeze in his hair, with his arms behind the back
Speaker 4: of his head, just looking out the window on his
Speaker 4: way living.
Speaker 1: His absolute grapes. Yeah, he looked like he looked like royalty.
Speaker 1: He's got he is the first grandchild. He's got first
Speaker 1: grandchild syndrome where he gets everything he wants right. And
Speaker 1: parents out there will agree that their kids grandparents just
Speaker 1: spoil the shit out of them. I mean, as they
Speaker 1: should really, But like with Oscars, it's mental.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's next level what that guy gets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also Macy. Papa always just carries Macy everywhere
Speaker 1: like a trophy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he just her feet can't touch the.
Speaker 1: Girl when we're when we're at his place, her feet
Speaker 1: do not touch the ground. He's either holding her, she's
Speaker 1: asleep on him, or she's sitting up on a kitchen bench.
Speaker 4: And he always serves her up chocolate milk in a bottle.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she's a lucky gout the warm. Even
Speaker 1: Oscar though, gets the warm chocolate milk. And I look
Speaker 1: over he's eating a Lamington. Yeah, he's going for ten
Speaker 1: swims a day. He's just living his absolute best life.
Speaker 3: He's a lucky boy. They're both are very lucky.
Speaker 1: So I'm fully expecting Oscar to come back with all
Speaker 1: of his bad habits.
Speaker 3: He comes back so moody.
Speaker 1: Yes, he's never tired.
Speaker 3: No, the kid doesn't tire.
Speaker 1: He doesn't tire. So how do your parent that when
Speaker 1: he gets he's full of sugar. Yeah, he's angry. He's
Speaker 1: a roid head, that's what he is. Maybe you should
Speaker 1: take him to the gym. Yeah, probably, he needs to
Speaker 1: do something. Maybe should get like a treadmill.
Speaker 4: Treadmill just put it's like a little hamster wheel for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cute, we could always I mean, how do you
Speaker 1: reverse We have told Popper, but Popper lies.
Speaker 4: I think we're just so grateful that we have Popper
Speaker 4: to take him for a whole day, if not two days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, mind it. I don't really want to tell him, yeah,
Speaker 1: because then he'll.
Speaker 4: Be like, well, also, it makes Poppa's life so much easier.
Speaker 3: He doesn't have to run around after him.
Speaker 1: And he's just a bad hips and stuff. So when
Speaker 1: he gets home, what we'll do, and I think what
Speaker 1: we do is we just go no screen time, get
Speaker 1: the puzzles out, see how we go with that, and
Speaker 1: hopefully goes to sleep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1: It's the worst when he naps as well in the car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then you know he's awake for five more hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Remember when we were living in the old house
Speaker 1: and a couple of times he get home, Popper would
Speaker 1: come and drop him off and he was asleep in
Speaker 1: the car and it's like five o'clock and you're like,
Speaker 1: God's sake, ruin the rest of the night anyway, But yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Think it's I think it's a hard one to c
Speaker 4: don't know what to do because you want to you
Speaker 4: want to tell Poppa.
Speaker 3: Don't do this, don't do that.
Speaker 4: But then it's like you're so grateful that to take
Speaker 4: just do whatever whatever makes everyone happy at the time.
Speaker 1: Sometime, look, I'm guilty of sometimes still just doing the
Speaker 1: easy way out. I think we all are.
Speaker 4: I've seen you and you're hungover days passing out the phone.
Speaker 3: We're not so perfect parents, after all.
Speaker 1: I know I do what Yeah, when I'm a bit
Speaker 1: hung I'm like anything goes anyway. I wanted to touch
Speaker 1: on that because I thought it was really funny this
Speaker 1: morning that you witnessed Oscar in full Prince Oscar Popu,
Speaker 1: the chauf for and he. The thing is that today,
Speaker 1: like we don't see him all day until this afternoon,
Speaker 1: so I would assume that he he would he would
Speaker 1: have like a little bell An popa and he'll come
Speaker 1: home with all these new toys, or he would have
Speaker 1: eaten far too much chocolate and ice cream.
Speaker 3: And watch way too much YouTube, which we say now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just everyone listening. April and I have implemented
Speaker 1: the no YouTube rule in this house because he gets
Speaker 1: so aggressive. He turns into like a roid rager after like,
Speaker 1: what is it about YouTube? Is it just the algorithm
Speaker 1: of YouTube that just gets him riled up?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But in saying that, Macy, I don't think it affects
Speaker 4: as much, but Oscar it affects.
Speaker 1: He turns into Oscar the Grouch, like it's his alter
Speaker 1: ego after watching YouTube. So we've banded in the house
Speaker 1: except for drawing videos, which we're fine with, and they've
Speaker 1: got to be on the TV. Yeah, no single screens anymore.
Speaker 1: We've changed.
Speaker 4: Ye who would people used to say, like, gotta get
Speaker 4: rid of it, gotta get rid of it, and we're like, hello.
Speaker 1: So easy. But I've noticed his mood is better. They
Speaker 1: do sleep better, I would say, because I used to
Speaker 1: wake up going, oh whats YouTube? Like it was like
Speaker 1: now they wake up they did a puzzle this morning
Speaker 1: before doing a.
Speaker 3: Five years in.
Speaker 1: He's about to go to school where they have nothing
Speaker 1: but iPads. Now, little you had a couple of evenings
Speaker 1: out last week. I did, you did? I had the
Speaker 1: bath duties to do when you were gone, dinner, bath, bedtime,
Speaker 1: routine into bed. That seems pretty.
Speaker 3: Straightforward, you'd think so what happened.
Speaker 1: So we completed the bath routine. We've gone through, like
Speaker 1: I just said, the third the bath, and then I
Speaker 1: put them to bed. I've come out here to finally relax,
Speaker 1: and you know, they share a room, so they chatter. Whatever,
Speaker 1: it's not a really big deal. I turned the hallway
Speaker 1: light on accidentally, and I tried to turn it off,
Speaker 1: and you know what Macy's like, once I turn a
Speaker 1: light and just leave it on for some reason, in
Speaker 1: as intrusive as that light is, and I wasn't gonna argue.
Speaker 1: I was like whatever. Anyway, they hear him talking, hear
Speaker 1: him talk, and then I hear this daddy, and I
Speaker 1: was like, go to sleep, just like we're doing a
Speaker 1: live stream last night. Go to sleep, don't make me
Speaker 1: come in there, all the usual, and then Macy's like daddy,
Speaker 1: like they were scared of something. Oh no, and I
Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck. So I've walked up there
Speaker 1: and I've gone like, what is it? Like, I'm over
Speaker 1: at this stage, I've been in bed for like half
Speaker 1: an hour, still not a sleep, what is it? And
Speaker 1: they're like that on the ground. So the light has
Speaker 1: lit up over the top of a toy. Oh that's
Speaker 1: created a bigger shadow. I'll show you the toy.
Speaker 4: I feel like we've all witnessed that as a child,
Speaker 4: thinking something was massive.
Speaker 3: We still witness that as adults. You think, is that
Speaker 3: my coat?
Speaker 4: Is that the what's the boogie monster?
Speaker 1: Trying to figure out what they were trying to trying
Speaker 1: to tell me, They're pointing down, pointing down, and there
Speaker 1: was a shadow of like a dog like figure, but
Speaker 1: like an angry dog like figure, and I thought, he's
Speaker 1: not in here. He's the family dog for those I
Speaker 1: don't know. And I looked down and I was like,
Speaker 1: what is making that shadow? And it was about two
Speaker 1: foot shadow, pretty big. Oh my gosh, look at that.
Speaker 1: It's a tiny little lego. It's a centimeter in size,
Speaker 1: but it's created this shadow that scared the shit out
Speaker 1: of them. So I had to I was like, look,
Speaker 1: this is it, this is it, trying to explain like,
Speaker 1: don't be scared anyway. I then had to spend the
Speaker 1: next five to ten minutes check in the whole room
Speaker 1: for creatures. So I'm under the bed, I'm in the cupboard,
Speaker 1: I'm behind the curtains. Check the next room over, check
Speaker 1: our room, check the hallway, no other creatures. And I
Speaker 1: was like, tomazic, can I turn that light off now?
Speaker 1: And she was so happy for me to turn that light.
Speaker 1: Turn it. That's it very cute. It's very very cute.
Speaker 1: Intil it's a three foot shadow of it. Anyway, Anyway,
Speaker 1: I have something to show you because we have been
Speaker 1: trying the last couple of weeks, Laura and I we
Speaker 1: were talking about potty training for Macy, and Macy is
Speaker 1: she's potty training to wi, but she's still poops in
Speaker 1: a nappy. And it got me thinking about if we
Speaker 1: took the nappy off, because Laura's advice was get rid
Speaker 1: of the nappy, no undies. I listened, Yeah, which I
Speaker 1: think is very we haven't followed because Macy's loving her underpants. Yes,
Speaker 1: she was weaning and I know that much. And I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, well and she's going to start to
Speaker 1: pooh with no undies on what's that going to look
Speaker 1: like for us?
Speaker 4: I think that theory of no underpants is for weeeze.
Speaker 4: I think when it comes to poohs, they definitely know
Speaker 4: the dest want.
Speaker 1: To continue that. What would it look like if we
Speaker 1: went cold Turkey? And I've got to found a video.
Speaker 1: Oh I think I know what it would look like,
Speaker 1: and I'll show you the shit just really pissed me
Speaker 1: the fuck off, because why the fuck would you sit
Speaker 1: in my sht in her shoe? No, look at that thing.
Speaker 1: Surely that's a dog shit. That is not. That is
Speaker 1: not it has got human consistency.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: My fear is that if we take Laura's advice, that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. And do you know what would be worse
Speaker 1: is if you were you didn't know, and you went
Speaker 1: and put the shoe on.
Speaker 4: This is true, but I feel like if anyone's shoes
Speaker 4: are going to get shut on in this household, it's
Speaker 4: yours mine and neatly put away every day.
Speaker 1: Put away bullshit.
Speaker 3: If I spotted, oh yeah, a shoe, I dare you?
Speaker 1: I dare you? All fine?
Speaker 4: One yeah, point proven, I have picked up your shoes before.
Speaker 4: You're not perfect once.
Speaker 3: In a blue moon.
Speaker 1: Maybe what was destminding against me? All right? She would
Speaker 1: poop in my shoes? No, she would she would poo
Speaker 1: in your slipper or something, which honestly, I only got
Speaker 1: new slippers. Now your old slippers would be.
Speaker 3: In the old slippers. I don't wear them anymore.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that my worst nightmare is to find, like,
Speaker 1: not be able to find the poop oh.
Speaker 4: It's like, there's nothing worse than stepping on dog pooh
Speaker 4: when yeah, stepping on human pool, stepping on human probably
Speaker 4: worse that squished between you to I want to imagine imagine.
Speaker 1: No, definitely not, April. I did warn our listeners that
Speaker 1: you would be on and I did ask them for
Speaker 1: some questions to ask you. We've got a couple because
Speaker 1: we could be here all day asking you questions. A
Speaker 1: lot of people want to know about your diet over
Speaker 1: that for those who don't know what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: April I went on a holiday and April got a
Speaker 1: photo with a stomach out and she had a very
Speaker 1: are the evidence six pack that no one knew about.
Speaker 1: Here's a six pack and a lot of the internet
Speaker 1: went crazy and a lot of people were saying, what
Speaker 1: is how did you do that? How did you do that?
Speaker 1: And she said, what did you say?
Speaker 4: Abs are made in the kitchen, babes? That was my
Speaker 4: exact quote.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and what should go to ab me? No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm no qualified person.
Speaker 4: I do not. I'm very balanced in the sense I
Speaker 4: will eat like a healthy.
Speaker 3: Meal, but then I'll be more than.
Speaker 4: Happy to have an ice cream after it. KFC, it's balanced.
Speaker 4: There's no strict diet.
Speaker 1: Somehow I've managed to mention McDonald's and Singer in this episode.
Speaker 1: We'll take either one anyway. We'll get into these questions.
Speaker 1: I've just got two.
Speaker 3: Oh that's fine?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is that only two people asked?
Speaker 1: No? Thank you for all the listeners. That and April
Speaker 1: has ready questions and if there's anything that she feels
Speaker 1: like responding to, she will. But there was two that
Speaker 1: we thought otherwise we'd be here all day. We're going
Speaker 1: to let the people get back to their days.
Speaker 3: Enough.
Speaker 1: This one's Bree. I would love to know how she
Speaker 1: handles conversations with Ash about sharing the parenting workload plus
Speaker 1: life admin in your eyes, how do you think we
Speaker 1: handled it?
Speaker 4: Didn't come easy, but I think where our communication had
Speaker 4: to improve, and one major factor of that is getting
Speaker 4: a Google Family calendar. Yeah that is a game changer.
Speaker 4: Well for me anyway, You've.
Speaker 1: Done nothing but coach me for twelve months on how
Speaker 1: to use this fucking calendar, and I look, I've gotten better,
Speaker 1: you have, I have gotten better. The life admin revolves
Speaker 1: around that calendar in terms of the parenting workload pretty split.
Speaker 4: Well. To be honest, I don't look like that. I
Speaker 4: feel like I'm okay to do what I can do
Speaker 4: because obviously I work from home, so I have more
Speaker 4: time if you're running out of the door. I also think again,
Speaker 4: with the open communication, I don't have any issue being
Speaker 4: like Ashton, can you do this?
Speaker 3: Do you do you think I do this? Or Ashton,
Speaker 3: can you get up and do this for me?
Speaker 1: No? I think you're more passive than that.
Speaker 3: I'm kind. I'm not passive.
Speaker 1: No, you're more like it would be nice.
Speaker 4: No, that's that's your persona on me.
Speaker 3: I know that's your persona of me online, but in
Speaker 3: your life, I'm actually like, hey, could you do this?
Speaker 1: Do you exactly? I am not like I am not
Speaker 1: like that. I'm not like the person like, hi, darling,
Speaker 1: can you please help me with it? No, you're not.
Speaker 1: You don't so you're not as direct as you think
Speaker 1: you are. Oh, really pretty direct, But like there are
Speaker 1: sometimes where you're half in PLF trying to get my
Speaker 1: attention to be like I'm working over here, get up
Speaker 1: and help me without actually doing it until I'm like,
Speaker 1: do you need help and like, yeah, good up, help me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do feel like I also feel like
Speaker 4: we've come to like an understanding like if someone's doing
Speaker 4: chores around the house, someone else can be on the
Speaker 4: kid judy, Oh yeah, refereeing sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very rarely, like I see other couples have
Speaker 1: the argument where it's like I thought you were watching them,
Speaker 1: or you know, I thought you were watching him, especially
Speaker 1: when something happened. Yes, I mean, we've got you know,
Speaker 1: so much backyard now we aren't used to. We're sort
Speaker 1: of like, all right, well, if you're out there watching
Speaker 1: them from the balcony and they're doing their thing, then
Speaker 1: it sort of gives me a queue to be like
Speaker 1: quickly tidy up what they've done in here, especially if
Speaker 1: it's around dinner time, which it usually is, and then
Speaker 1: someone you'll sit out there, I'll come back and forth
Speaker 1: and clean them up or whatever, or vice versa. Usually,
Speaker 1: like it's unspoken that like unless the place is like
Speaker 1: already clean and dinners in the oven, there's not much
Speaker 1: more I can do than sometimes I can just sit
Speaker 1: out with you and watch as well, or I will
Speaker 1: sit here or vice versa.
Speaker 4: I love how you're always sitting. You're like, i'll sit here,
Speaker 4: I'll sit there.
Speaker 3: I'll sit here.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't often sit. Shut up.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was just giving us as a
Speaker 1: couple a compliment in that we we pick up on
Speaker 1: those cues. But I do like to sit. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a bad thing. Yeah, I do like this. I like
Speaker 1: to lay down even better.
Speaker 4: Than I like when you're on your phone and you're like,
Speaker 4: i'm working, I'm working.
Speaker 1: I'm looking for inspiration.
Speaker 3: That's the thing.
Speaker 4: It's hard because that's what you are doing for work
Speaker 4: inspiration apparently.
Speaker 1: Fuck nice.
Speaker 4: But I know, I just feel like we've kind of
Speaker 4: you know, we've been at it for five years now.
Speaker 4: I feel like we do have some sort of rhythm. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I do this, you do that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets thrown, sometimes it gets there's always a variable.
Speaker 1: But yeah, i'd agree with you. All Right, we move
Speaker 1: on to the next one, please, Celeste, how do you
Speaker 1: tackle conversations or conflicts with your spouse when little ears
Speaker 1: are around?
Speaker 4: Oh, I feel like that happens all the time. And
Speaker 4: I'm like, Ashton, the children are here.
Speaker 1: When have you ever said that to me?
Speaker 4: Well, I just feel like if we're talking about something
Speaker 4: because you just know oscar listening is.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I think we don't often have
Speaker 1: a stern conversation with each other in front of them
Speaker 1: very often, Like I would agree, yeah, we might have
Speaker 1: more of a conversation, like I wouldn't say heated, like
Speaker 1: a more of an adult conversation when they're asleeple they're
Speaker 1: not here, or will just take little jabs at each
Speaker 1: other but they don't understand.
Speaker 4: Or when you talk through the kids, it's like Daddy
Speaker 4: didn't want to do this.
Speaker 1: Oh is that what mummies? So Mummy let you climb
Speaker 1: onto the back of the couch. Yeah, Or you do
Speaker 1: that thing where you might be distracted and the kids
Speaker 1: are doing something and that they shouldn't be doing. You
Speaker 1: haven't quite cotton on yet, but I've like walked in
Speaker 1: and cotton and I'm like bape, yeah, oh shit, sorry,
Speaker 1: Like I'll do the same thing where I'm just like
Speaker 1: doom scrolling and they're like at each other's throats. You're
Speaker 1: like yeah, sorry, yeah, sorry, sorry, so again. I've seen
Speaker 1: couples fire up at each other in front of their
Speaker 1: kids and monkey see monkey do I think the times
Speaker 1: that I have I've raised my voice about something I'm
Speaker 1: frustrated in front of everyone. I do apologize to Oscar
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: And I was going to say the same thing.
Speaker 4: I feel like, if we've ever raised our voices, we
Speaker 4: usually come back to them and say, hey, guys, sorry,
Speaker 4: mummy and daddy, we're a little bit yeah angry just before.
Speaker 3: But we're okay now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it doesn't happen very often. What's my nose
Speaker 1: getting longer? Also, like with the swearing, I never really
Speaker 1: watch what I say. Like my man, I do a
Speaker 1: little bit more, mainly because lolamal, You're like, give me
Speaker 1: ten push ups and I can't do another push up
Speaker 1: it hurts.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, we're terrible with swearing.
Speaker 1: I reckon, But they both know what's bad.
Speaker 4: I was going to say, I feel like after we
Speaker 4: swear as well, we tell them that is a word
Speaker 4: that you can only use as an adult.
Speaker 1: Or when you're alone, right, I double down on it. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like Oscar is very much like nos not to
Speaker 1: say that word, and he the times he has said it,
Speaker 1: they've been under his breath and about something I'm never
Speaker 1: I'm really like, what just no, nothing, Like he knows
Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have said it. Macy, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: she thinks it's just funny because she's at the age
Speaker 1: where she's like, oh fuck. And then Oscar's like, she
Speaker 1: did it, she did it right there.
Speaker 3: I actually caught Oscar, or not caught him.
Speaker 4: He told me the other day he said Macy said
Speaker 4: the F word, and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, what, what do you mean? What did she say?
Speaker 3: And he said, yeah, shut up.
Speaker 4: I was like, that's probably all right.
Speaker 1: Buddy, Like, what about when you were the other day
Speaker 1: you were trying to get him to explain what the
Speaker 1: rude finger meant? Because who Poppa Popper? Apparently the finger
Speaker 1: oh fuck.
Speaker 4: I think he showed me, just like quietly on the
Speaker 4: side and he was like.
Speaker 3: And I was like, do you know what you're doing?
Speaker 3: And he goes.
Speaker 1: He's like yeah, he.
Speaker 4: Goes, and then like obviously put it away and he's like, yeah, Poppa, No,
Speaker 4: I don't think he said who. He's like, that's the
Speaker 4: rude finger. I was like, how do you know that?
Speaker 4: And he said, Poppa showed me.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised he threw pop a rounder the bus because
Speaker 1: he's the one he won't snitch on, because he'd be like,
Speaker 1: who gave you that? He'd be like, Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think I think it's more of Oscar may have
Speaker 4: just been holding that finger up and Popper's probably corrected him,
Speaker 4: saying you can't do that around going around town.
Speaker 1: Doing all he's droving around town, not our Popper. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like our kids some like we just tell
Speaker 4: them there's a time and place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when you locked us in the bathroom and
Speaker 1: we're like now, yeah, yeah, yeah, we should do that again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do it with me because she just thinks it's
Speaker 1: all fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like she'll be like, I don't think she'd say anything,
Speaker 4: to be honest, Yeah, I think I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll have to do it.
Speaker 1: We'll have to try anyway. They are the two questions
Speaker 1: we had, which I think we're pretty in depth.
Speaker 4: I was going to say there was nothing juicy or
Speaker 4: spicy about those.
Speaker 1: No, No, this one. Oh, actually there's one more from
Speaker 1: an Ash as well. Would you say you're satisfied with
Speaker 1: our love with Ashes love making?
Speaker 4: Wait, it's from Ash or anonymous?
Speaker 1: I mean it's from anonymous. On a scale of one
Speaker 1: to ten, how satisfied are you with Ashes love making?
Speaker 3: We'll take this off line, Okay, that's.
Speaker 1: A needs improvement. We do a segment in April here
Speaker 1: called hack or Fak that usually one of us shows
Speaker 1: the other, but in this case, I haven't seen this
Speaker 1: and you haven't seen this, Okay, So what we're looking
Speaker 1: at here is a mum who has tried to set
Speaker 1: white noise in a child's room, but accidentally played the
Speaker 1: song from Disclosure White Noise on loop for two hours
Speaker 1: on loop.
Speaker 3: It's just been going on for two hours, the.
Speaker 1: Song that's like white noise noise, and it's like disco,
Speaker 1: very good. It worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: It's funny like with white noise. We we're a white
Speaker 1: noise house and something. Matt's never had white noise in
Speaker 1: their house or anything ever, no, and it's like like why.
Speaker 1: I said to him, why and he was like, we
Speaker 1: just never. It's the best, like the lightning, the storms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they haven't noticed it well in saying that we've
Speaker 4: had the fan on and that's probably than the white noise.
Speaker 1: But I find that like I'm so accustomed and used
Speaker 1: to it now. It's just like it's part of our house.
Speaker 1: I feel like when we lose it, I'll be sad. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when they don't when they say they don't want
Speaker 4: it anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like, well, hang on, we've listened
Speaker 1: to the same song, same noise, yeah, every night for
Speaker 1: five and a half years so far. It'll be the
Speaker 1: end of an era. Very good. I think that's a hack.
Speaker 1: Anything that gets a kid to sleep, I'm sweet with.
Speaker 4: It's almost as good as our two meditations competing against
Speaker 4: each other.
Speaker 1: They each Oh yeah, so April and I, along with
Speaker 1: the white noise that's in our house, April and I
Speaker 1: both have sleep music. I think we just adopted it
Speaker 1: from having the white noise on because we had we
Speaker 1: lived in units for so long with Oscar, mainly that
Speaker 1: the whole house just was like you walk into a house,
Speaker 1: it's like all the time. It's just it's like an
Speaker 1: AM radio station. And then we were like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: do some sleep music. I think for a while there
Speaker 1: we had one where we just shared it. And then
Speaker 1: you've gone more into the meditation side. Chakras, Oh god,
Speaker 1: it's and mine's more just like piano sleep music. But
Speaker 1: the thing is your meditation lasts for an hour, it's
Speaker 1: three hours, what but the talking only last for an hour?
Speaker 4: Talking probably an hour but you're out cold in like
Speaker 4: two minutes.
Speaker 1: You're like, it's sleeping next to a dead body, and
Speaker 1: you are out. And so I've got to spend the
Speaker 1: next hour listening to this woman carry on about different
Speaker 1: energy chakras. But also I find with those those people.
Speaker 1: Also I find with people who are really into that
Speaker 1: and the chakras like me, they really in depthly describe
Speaker 1: where your chakra is, Like, no one's going to if
Speaker 1: they don't, no one's going to believe them. So here's
Speaker 1: an example. They're like, so that she's like, and you're
Speaker 1: a chakra is so in your snuf just below the
Speaker 1: breast bone, in between both pectorial muscles, slightly underneath the
Speaker 1: cartilage of the humans to listen to my meditation, that's like,
Speaker 1: why don't you just say it's in your chest? Do
Speaker 1: you think that someone's gonna be like, Okay, if it's
Speaker 1: in your chest, where is it?
Speaker 4: I'm just going to disagree with you because I quite
Speaker 4: like it.
Speaker 1: It's like they're like, okay, And also how many chakras
Speaker 1: does one person have? I've listened to it so many
Speaker 1: times that they're like, and I do go to sleep
Speaker 1: that easy. It takes me forever.
Speaker 3: And I'm listening to you're welcome you as well.
Speaker 1: And at the top of your head is your twelfth chakra.
Speaker 1: Like she's just rattling off the human anatomy. Essentially, it's great.
Speaker 3: It's all mindfulness.
Speaker 1: What you're fastest, see your story is snoring. And I'm
Speaker 1: listening to someone and being like, and You're sixth chakra
Speaker 1: is at the base of your butthole and it slightly
Speaker 1: edges up towards the shaft of your penis, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: fucking hell, how many chakra energy? And they're all energy
Speaker 1: chakras and then they finish with and if you look up,
Speaker 1: there is your final chakra hovering above you like a
Speaker 1: guiding light.
Speaker 3: Definitely doesn't say that it does directly.
Speaker 1: It must be specific to mothers.
Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, that far?
Speaker 1: You literally have never gotten that far. It gets to
Speaker 1: a point where it's like street noise, traffic noise, nothing
Speaker 1: will wake you except for the sound of your newborn child.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, shut up, anyway, your newborn child has
Speaker 1: fifty five chakras. Let's begin, let's begin, or it's like,
Speaker 1: now start at your head and work your way down.
Speaker 4: Just so you're saying it, maybe I should, maybe you
Speaker 4: should be the chakra talker.
Speaker 3: Maybe this doesn't work out.
Speaker 1: If this doesn't work out, then that's where let's finish, April.
Speaker 1: As much as I love having you on the podcast,
Speaker 1: we need to finish. We have a list of question
Speaker 1: that we do every week. So this comes from Shannon.
Speaker 1: How has parenting impacted your social life? With everything that
Speaker 1: comes with being a busy parent? What do you do
Speaker 1: for self care or to carve out some time for yourself?
Speaker 1: So it's kind of directed to you and me, like
Speaker 1: what we do me nothing.
Speaker 4: I think the first couple years, or even just the
Speaker 4: first year at least, it's very hard to have a
Speaker 4: social life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I find that new parents and parents of kids
Speaker 1: like that are under two and their kids aren't like
Speaker 1: just i'd say under one. And also I think like
Speaker 1: when you do have your your kids at first, you
Speaker 1: find yourself doing then things because when it passes the
Speaker 1: time and two, you can palm your baby off on
Speaker 1: your mates.
Speaker 3: Yes, but I do think it's trickier at that age.
Speaker 4: I don't know, like if you're like for us, for example,
Speaker 4: when we were you know, we wanted them to have
Speaker 4: their sleeps at a certain time, and so it's trickier.
Speaker 3: That but I feel like as they're older, like.
Speaker 4: Our kids are three and five now, and we have
Speaker 4: such a good community of friends who also have three
Speaker 4: and five year olds. So our social life is just
Speaker 4: getting everyone together at a pub, at a pub or
Speaker 4: at a house and just making it work.
Speaker 3: Kids are happy, parents are happy.
Speaker 4: But then I think also we are pretty good at
Speaker 4: managing like you going out with your friends, me, you're
Speaker 4: going out with my friends, and just making sure that
Speaker 4: you get that social cup field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like it's I feel like it doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be one hundred percent balance because blokes go
Speaker 1: out more than women like your mum usually most of
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Interested in going out more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as well at all also depends on your personality,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, we're pretty good, like we neither of
Speaker 1: us take the piss. But the other also where I
Speaker 1: noticed the other day when you were going out, you
Speaker 1: were like, oh, I've got two things in two nights,
Speaker 1: and it's like that's I couldn't care less, Like as
Speaker 1: long as I know what I'm up for. If you
Speaker 1: just say to me, hey, I'm actually going to go
Speaker 1: out now, I'm like, oh, well, But like yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like if we it's important that you go and
Speaker 1: I go, and we go separately, and then we also
Speaker 1: do the things with the kids and other because then
Speaker 1: also you know, kids, they they've got friends too, they
Speaker 1: want to socialize as well, and it's much easier to
Speaker 1: wear them out when there's a bunch of them exactly.
Speaker 1: And I love how a lot of pubs and stuff
Speaker 1: now becoming way.
Speaker 3: More family friendly. What do you do for self care?
Speaker 1: Though? What do I do? Drink? Now?
Speaker 4: Look?
Speaker 1: You know me, I it changes so often. I feel
Speaker 1: that like I I'm on a roller coaster all the time,
Speaker 1: so I don't really know what. I don't really know
Speaker 1: what helps me self care. Sometimes I'm sometimes I'm really
Speaker 1: like motivated to you know, run and stuff, and that
Speaker 1: makes me feel good. But then sometimes I like now
Speaker 1: or I don't feel like doing anything because the things,
Speaker 1: those things make me miserable, you know, running, Yeah, running,
Speaker 1: I serve that. I paddled out. I was like, I
Speaker 1: fucking hate this, But it's just my mindset at the moment,
Speaker 1: and that's it'll come back. I just need to not
Speaker 1: be so hard on my tear personally, that's just me personally.
Speaker 1: I can't have a routine because I'm just so bored.
Speaker 1: Like it's so bored. And I'm like, if you say
Speaker 1: to me, Okay, you're gonna have to wake up at
Speaker 1: five o'clock every day as part of your routurn routine,
Speaker 1: and if you wake up at five o'clock every day,
Speaker 1: at the end of the week, you get one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, I'd be like, fuck that. I'm not getting that.
Speaker 1: That might be like, oh fucking fuck that, because it's
Speaker 1: like it's just too repetitive for me. I get bored.
Speaker 1: I don't mind. Just like a nap.
Speaker 3: True, that's a bit of self care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I nap a lot at the moment. And it
Speaker 1: might be maybe I've got chronic fatigue. I don't know, maybe,
Speaker 1: but I am enjoying that. I love it so much.
Speaker 1: When I get to nap with Macy, I love that
Speaker 1: so much, so sort of like a bond. But then
Speaker 1: it's self care and wake up and she's really happy
Speaker 1: that I'm there, and I'm happy she's going to catch you.
Speaker 4: Like when I walk past the other day and you're
Speaker 4: pretty much out cold and her little arm was on
Speaker 4: your head like resting, Like it's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I love that, love that. So that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's me. What about Well, what do you do
Speaker 1: for self care? Like?
Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty good with self care?
Speaker 1: Jim is your Yeah, I notice the difference between you
Speaker 1: training and not training that day days you're not like
Speaker 1: you just you've got way more of a pep in
Speaker 1: your step when you've been to the gym. Yes, and
Speaker 1: it's not whether you're cranky or you're happy, You're just
Speaker 1: way more motivated to you know, to do anything anyway. April,
Speaker 1: before we do go again, a reminder, please vote for
Speaker 1: Maddie as much as they want him back, but you
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Speaker 1: And on that note, April, if you've enjoyed this episode, please,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking to you.
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Speaker 4: I think your first episode I wrote a review on Apple?
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Speaker 3: Them thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Goodbye bye. I need you close to Sorry, Babe, I
Speaker 1: need I don't know, hang on sorry, Jess one set.
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