Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
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Speaker 1: My name is Benjamin Norris, and on this podcast I
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Speaker 1: two of the latest eliminated contestants from Channel ten's new
Speaker 1: reality series The Challenge Australia. It is Olympic medalist Emily
Speaker 1: Sebom and Big Brother twenty twenty winner Marley Biendelo. Marley
Speaker 1: is the basketball loving, social game playing Big Brother winner
Speaker 1: who wild audiences with his first reality TV experience. He
Speaker 1: doesn't take himself too seriously and I think he was
Speaker 1: a really great addition to The Challenge first series. Emily
Speaker 1: is the Olympic gold medalist who was last seen on
Speaker 1: armas Celebrity Get Me Out of Here, and her addition
Speaker 1: to this series was epic with an ability to do
Speaker 1: challenges like nobody else. But unfortunately, she did pick a
Speaker 1: few enemies up along the way and gave us some
Speaker 1: pretty tense moments between her and her competitors. I will
Speaker 1: ask Emily about her current relationship with Ryan, I'll ask
Speaker 1: Marley who from the Big Brother universe he expected to see,
Speaker 1: and I will also get the dirt from their former rivalries.
Speaker 1: As I asked them, they need to know questions that
Speaker 1: will no doubt have them squirming in their seats. However,
Speaker 1: let's get started with today's guests. I'd like to welcome
Speaker 1: Marley and Emily from The Challenge Australia to TV Reload.
Speaker 3: I went into that not knowing a single person in
Speaker 3: there previously.
Speaker 2: On the Challenge.
Speaker 4: You can't judge people on where they came.
Speaker 2: From, strength, teamwork, resilience.
Speaker 3: Funny you asked that, because you know I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: thought that before coming into here.
Speaker 2: What just happened right there?
Speaker 4: We tried to congratulate them and then just walk off.
Speaker 4: I was a big stand of the show, so when
Speaker 4: I got to call up the show, I was having
Speaker 4: that down for it.
Speaker 2: Emily, Marley, tonight wasn't your night?
Speaker 3: Guys. Yeah, I'm very out of the reality TV scene
Speaker 3: in world.
Speaker 1: I'd say, hey, Maley, congratulations on surviving the Challenge Australia.
Speaker 3: Ben, thank you very much. Barely I did, but I hey,
Speaker 3: I made it. I made it through.
Speaker 2: How did the Challenge Australia compare to Big Brother?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I I think and how I describe it when
Speaker 3: people ask me, I think it was a breeze compared
Speaker 3: to Big Brother. Now, I don't know if that's because
Speaker 3: I had that experience prior to going into the Challenge
Speaker 3: as being in a very similar game in Big Brother
Speaker 3: all that Big Brother was just an absolute nutcase, crazy
Speaker 3: social experiment like the Truman Show, and this was a
Speaker 3: lot different than that, So maybe that's why it was easier.
Speaker 3: But I just I feel like Big Brother, we were
Speaker 3: constantly playing the game always, whereas being in the Challenge,
Speaker 3: I think there were times where we could rest relax
Speaker 3: and they allowed us to like just chill out outside
Speaker 3: and take naps, Like in Big Brother, you can't take naps,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I feel like the
Speaker 3: challenges were like crazy in Big Brother. They were also
Speaker 3: crazy in the Challenge, But I just feel like all
Speaker 3: in all, it was an easier experience, which was cool.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed that it was a lot more laid back
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 1: I kept watching it and thinking, you know, you had
Speaker 1: so much experience with the new format of Big Brother
Speaker 1: and those challenges, and some of the challenges were quite
Speaker 1: reminiscent of some of the challenges you may have done
Speaker 1: in Big Brother back in the day, So I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, you had maybe more experience or actually got
Speaker 1: a head start on these people, you know how it
Speaker 1: all happens.
Speaker 3: Definitely, that's exactly right, and I felt like that was
Speaker 3: an advantage going into the game. I also felt like
Speaker 3: that would have put a target on my back going
Speaker 3: in because people would have realized that I played a
Speaker 3: game very similar to this prior and actually won that game,
Speaker 3: I guess. So I was like, oh, this might not
Speaker 3: be the best for me coming in, but I knew
Speaker 3: that that was going to be an advantage coming in,
Speaker 3: and that's I think why then I felt like it
Speaker 3: was such a breeze to me compared to Big Brother.
Speaker 1: Did you also think that there would be other Big
Speaker 1: Brother housemates in there, because as your name was being rumored,
Speaker 1: there was like Tim Dormer and Tully and a few
Speaker 1: other names being rumored. So were you surprised to see
Speaker 1: that you were the only Big Brother person in there?
Speaker 3: God, Yes, I was, And I was hoping there was
Speaker 3: someone else in there. Then I had no one. I
Speaker 3: went into that not knowing a single person in there.
Speaker 3: Literally never spoken a word to anyone in that house. Ben,
Speaker 3: So I was like, dude, I'm the only one here,
Speaker 3: and I'm coming up against all these people that have
Speaker 3: been on The Bachelor together or married at First Side
Speaker 3: or you know this and that survivor, and you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm the only one in there.
Speaker 1: Was the alliances was unfair. That's what I've kept thinking.
Speaker 1: I was like, Paul Marley, if you were in there
Speaker 1: and Big Brother people, you'd know this from when you
Speaker 1: go to functions. You go to functions and all the
Speaker 1: Big Brother people stick together like glue, very much like
Speaker 1: the way the Bachelor contestants.
Speaker 2: Were doing that.
Speaker 3: You needed that absolutely.
Speaker 1: I did hear that Dormer and Tully were on the
Speaker 1: list of people that they were casting, but when they
Speaker 1: found out they both were in relationships, they pulled them out.
Speaker 2: But then you're still with the same girlfriend hunt you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. I sure, am, yeah, still with her
Speaker 3: and actually, funnily enough, I think they were interested in
Speaker 3: having Lenn potentially be on the challenge, so maybe down
Speaker 3: the line we might be on there together at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which would be awesome. I would have loved to have
Speaker 3: gone in there with her. So yeah, yeah, that is
Speaker 3: interesting to hear. I didn't I didn't actually know that.
Speaker 1: Maybe you'll get married and then your children will be
Speaker 1: on the challenge and see it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's just a long Yeah.
Speaker 2: Was there anyone though? From yours?
Speaker 1: I feel like we need the juice on this, because, like,
Speaker 1: if you could choose two people from the Channel seven
Speaker 1: iteration of Big Brothers, so not you know, not the
Speaker 1: previous ones, but maybe someone from your season, maybe a
Speaker 1: Daniel Grange. I don't know, is there someone that can
Speaker 1: you give me two names?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So wait, do you want me to pick one
Speaker 3: person from my season as well?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just pick one from your season and one.
Speaker 3: From the one from the one before. Hey yeah, good, good, Okay.
Speaker 3: I would have loved to have gone in there. I
Speaker 3: think Katie from my season would have been awesome on
Speaker 3: the challenge. I think she would have crushed it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: get along with Katie yeah, her, Oh, Jess, they're the
Speaker 3: same to me, Her, Jess. We're gonna put them in
Speaker 3: as a pair, okay together a Katie or Jess one
Speaker 3: of them would be great. And then oh yeah, Dan
Speaker 3: from the season before would have been hilarious. Even Matt.
Speaker 3: I love Matt. That would have been great. Mad good time,
Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, he's such an awesome guy. I would
Speaker 3: have loved Madden there with me. That would have been
Speaker 3: perfect if I if I had Madden there with me,
Speaker 3: I would have been chilling.
Speaker 1: You know that we're What we're talking about, essentially, though,
Speaker 1: is what they need to do, and that is a
Speaker 1: all stars version of the Channel seven series, because I
Speaker 1: think that would be I think we need another series
Speaker 1: to happen, which you know we know is on the way,
Speaker 1: and then they need to do like a collection of
Speaker 1: five from you know, all the seasons that we've seen
Speaker 1: on seven.
Speaker 2: That would be great. And all of those people agreed, Okay, great,
Speaker 2: Well we've talked.
Speaker 1: About that stuff, so we can get that out of
Speaker 1: the way. You know, did the type of show, you know,
Speaker 1: does the type of show that the contestants come from
Speaker 1: say much about who they are in the show, Like,
Speaker 1: did you notice that, Oh that's behavior from a Bachelor contestant.
Speaker 1: Oh that's behavior from a survivor. Can you tell someone's
Speaker 1: personality based on the show they come from?
Speaker 3: That's so funny you asked that because you know, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't have thought that before coming into here, But yes
Speaker 3: you can, And I think that's why from the jump
Speaker 3: as well. For example, I got really close with Troy
Speaker 3: and Brooke j from the jump, I knew. I knew
Speaker 3: Brooke came from Survivor, a very similar show to be Brother. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and you know she she not only was just an
Speaker 3: amazing human being overall, but she understood how to play
Speaker 3: a game. And that's kind of why and where we
Speaker 3: connected within that game. And then there was the other
Speaker 3: end of the house where there was this you know,
Speaker 3: Bachelor crew or people coming from Love Island, And yes,
Speaker 3: you could tell that they were from those shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you. I'm agree, but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're spot on. You're spot on, Ben.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also curious to know, like you know,
Speaker 1: for you, you're not someone who's really known as having
Speaker 1: outrageous things said about them in the media, like you're
Speaker 1: pretty squeaky clean. But I love to ask people what's
Speaker 1: the most outrageous thing they've read about them, you know,
Speaker 1: in the news?
Speaker 3: Have?
Speaker 1: And I tried to look, because you always looked for
Speaker 1: something like that online, and I honestly couldn't find anything
Speaker 1: that was untrue.
Speaker 2: Everything that anyone was writing about it was pretty accurate.
Speaker 2: You haven't robbed a bottle shop or done anything, dad,
Speaker 2: But what's the most outrageous thing you've read about yourself online?
Speaker 2: That's not true?
Speaker 3: That's that's so good. I honestly, I haven't really seen
Speaker 3: much either then, And I'm not gonna lie. I don't
Speaker 3: even look into it too much. I really I couldn't
Speaker 3: care too much about what people were to write up
Speaker 3: about me, and I honestly I haven't seen anything outrageous myself.
Speaker 3: Maybe you and I can make something up, you and
Speaker 3: I can put something out there, you know, then we
Speaker 3: can maybe we can both say that we rubbed a
Speaker 3: bottle shop together, and we need that.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: The funny thing about being in a reality show with
Speaker 1: a collection of reality show contestants you know already been
Speaker 1: through the process, is that they are the type of
Speaker 1: people have Google alerts on themselves because you know, but
Speaker 1: you're not like that at all. I know this not
Speaker 1: at all the very little that I've had interactions with you.
Speaker 1: You're just not the sort of person that's going to
Speaker 1: be sitting there googling your name at home, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 3: No, I'm so not in that And even though I've
Speaker 3: been into reality TV shows now, I'm still so not
Speaker 3: in that world. And hence why I didn't freaking know
Speaker 3: anyone coming into this, Like I just came in not
Speaker 3: only on my own so that was a disadvantage, but
Speaker 3: also didn't even know anybody coming into this game. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm very out of the reality TV scene and world.
Speaker 3: I'd say that, But.
Speaker 1: You also make good television, which is why. I remember
Speaker 1: when they were casting one of the seasons of SAS,
Speaker 1: I knew the casting woman, and I rang and said,
Speaker 1: you have to put Marley on this show. You're awesome,
Speaker 1: And I just still think that's a possibility. We've still
Speaker 1: got to get you into SAS because I think that's
Speaker 1: a show that you would crush more than this.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree. I'm such a competitive band and
Speaker 3: that's where you know where and why I wanted to
Speaker 3: do the challenge, but also why I was so disappointed.
Speaker 3: I didn't, you know, get all the way to the
Speaker 3: final and just missed out there at the end. Because
Speaker 3: I'm just such a competitor. I just want to do
Speaker 3: anything to win, and I will almost do anything to
Speaker 3: win in a competitive sense. And yeah, no, definitely any
Speaker 3: competitive based show. I am definitely open ears and down Fred.
Speaker 2: What about Emily studying this show?
Speaker 1: Though? I was wondering whether you studied the show, because
Speaker 1: you know, The Challenge is a show that's been happening
Speaker 1: around the world. They have different iterations of it. Did
Speaker 1: you go and watch those to sort of bone.
Speaker 2: Up like she did?
Speaker 3: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I definitely did. I It's funny. Actually, so my girlfriend
Speaker 3: when I came out of Big Brother, she was such
Speaker 3: as she's American, she has watched the Challenge since she's
Speaker 3: been little. So when I came out of Big Brother, yeah,
Speaker 3: her and all her teammates like, you got to do
Speaker 3: the Challenge next, You got to do the Challenge next.
Speaker 3: So it's so funny, this full circle moment that almost
Speaker 3: a year later I got asked to be on the
Speaker 3: Challenge and from that point I started watching the American
Speaker 3: seasons and I was freaking like, yo, this is wild right,
Speaker 3: like insane. And I had a little moment in the
Speaker 3: actual game where we were in water at twelve am
Speaker 3: at night, this random Argentinian lake. It was freaking freezing,
Speaker 3: and I was having flashbacks to one of the American
Speaker 3: episodes where this guy had like he was getting hypothermia
Speaker 3: and he like couldn't be like an ambulance had to come,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, this is happening
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: I love that it's a possibility for You're like, in
Speaker 1: real life, how do you not watch that show? You
Speaker 1: would have been like, there's no way that these producers
Speaker 1: would allow me to get hypothermia exactly exactly. Then you're
Speaker 1: freaking out telling everyone's no, we are going to get
Speaker 1: the hypothermia, and the ambulance are on their way.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love it. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: You know, in comparison to the versions that you've now
Speaker 1: because you've seen the Australian version, you've watched it back hopefully,
Speaker 1: but how did our version compare to the American version?
Speaker 3: Look, it was it was. I think they went went
Speaker 3: easy on us for the first season, which I think
Speaker 3: they had to. It's at the sure season them doing
Speaker 3: something like this in Australia and they did. You know
Speaker 3: we're We're on at seven thirty on Channel ten. It's
Speaker 3: a family friendly slot there compared to America, which is
Speaker 3: a nine thirty slot on MTV. It was a lot
Speaker 3: less brutal. I think the challenges were a lot less brutal.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was to do with them
Speaker 3: just trying to ease people into it and us as
Speaker 3: a cast into it, or maybe it was a you know,
Speaker 3: a funding thing as well. You know, this is the
Speaker 3: first time they did this, so they can't have crazy
Speaker 3: extravagant things like us jumping out of fricking aeroplanes and
Speaker 3: stuff like they do the American season. That's what I
Speaker 3: came in and expected to do. So I think it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was still hanging off a.
Speaker 3: Bit almost exactly we're still doing stuff like that, But
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it was. It was a lot easier
Speaker 3: than the American seasons. But I think it's just going
Speaker 3: to get better and you know, continue to get more
Speaker 3: brutal depending on who they cast.
Speaker 2: It'll go from there.
Speaker 1: Everyone that's joining the podcast from the Challenge Australia that
Speaker 1: I've had on of us and these five need to
Speaker 1: know questions. You don't need to go into too much
Speaker 1: detail unless you want to throw yourself right under that bus.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well are you ready to go? We'll got
Speaker 2: top five questions.
Speaker 3: Okay me, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: Who was the nicest contestant in there?
Speaker 3: Brook J? Brook J was the nicest?
Speaker 1: Definitely just a side note. Two people said you by
Speaker 1: the way, Two people so far.
Speaker 3: Have said that's so sweet, very sweet.
Speaker 2: No one said you to the next question was who
Speaker 2: was the biggest villain in there?
Speaker 3: Biggest villain would have been, Oh, that's a tough one man.
Speaker 3: Biggest villain, I honestly think it could have been here,
Speaker 3: and to be honest, because I feel like he'd do
Speaker 3: anything to get to the end of this thing, so
Speaker 3: I feel like he. I think by popular demand, it
Speaker 3: might be cont Connor, but I think Karen in my
Speaker 3: eyes because I was kind of aligned with Connor, so
Speaker 3: maybe kids Karen.
Speaker 1: Kind of looks like he could be like a modern
Speaker 1: age Disney villain, you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, and looked he plays the part well, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, great guy, But I just I
Speaker 3: know that he would do anything.
Speaker 2: From living with these people. Who was the messiest.
Speaker 3: Oh, Troy, my freaking roommate, Troy. I honestly he was.
Speaker 3: And his nickname is dirt for a reason then, because
Speaker 3: he is the dirtiest kid. Like, honestly, he would I
Speaker 3: would make him shower. I'm like, Troy, dude, get in
Speaker 3: the shower, like he hadn't showered all day and like broke,
Speaker 3: get in the shower. But he would make my bed
Speaker 3: every morning then, which I loved. He's a great guy.
Speaker 3: I love Troy. That's my boy. He was my best
Speaker 3: friend in Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, romance was. It was very cute.
Speaker 1: But you know those people that grow up bouldering. You
Speaker 1: know what bouldering is, you know, the climbing up the walls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they don't really care about smell. And I know
Speaker 1: that because I.
Speaker 3: Regard for hygiene. And he did smell. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: Then he did, And you know what, I started to
Speaker 3: become accustomed taught myself. I just took it on board.
Speaker 2: This is what you get with him amongst his own clan.
Speaker 2: That's totally fine. They all smelt. Anyway, We're going on,
Speaker 2: who is the funniest person in there?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's so good. Okay, the funniest person in there.
Speaker 3: Kieran was up there. God, he was hilarious. Conrad was
Speaker 3: honestly really funny. And I'm gonna I'm gonna get a
Speaker 3: sleeper here. I don't know if many people have said this,
Speaker 3: but Megan was so funny. She's freaking hilarious, and the
Speaker 3: stories that she tells. She's got such a dry humor.
Speaker 3: I think mean's actually up there. She's funny. She's so funny.
Speaker 3: I love Megan.
Speaker 2: I have heard that from a lot of people that
Speaker 2: she's very dry, very funny.
Speaker 3: She is so dry and so just just funny.
Speaker 1: We needed to see more of that, and then, you know,
Speaker 1: not what you know now, because obviously you would know more,
Speaker 1: you know, because things have been recorded, things have happened.
Speaker 1: But when you left the competition, who did you want
Speaker 1: to win?
Speaker 3: I wanted to win obviously, obviously my if I wasn't
Speaker 3: going to win, and I was saying it the whole
Speaker 3: way through there. I wanted Troy to take this thing
Speaker 3: out on the guys end, and I wanted Brook Brook
Speaker 3: Jay also to take this thing out as well. So
Speaker 3: when I left the game, I was like, if Troy
Speaker 3: and Brooke win this, I am so so happy, and
Speaker 3: I hope that they do take this thing out because
Speaker 3: I absolutely love them. They're all my closest in there
Speaker 3: and I and I think especially Troy, I feel like
Speaker 3: he is a He's a challenge, you know, enthusiast. He's
Speaker 3: watched every single season. He was so with it and
Speaker 3: he worked so hard as well, just like myself, and
Speaker 3: I really wanted him to win this thing, and I
Speaker 3: know he needs the money and I would love him
Speaker 3: to take it out.
Speaker 2: Did you give him any tips on, you know, coming
Speaker 2: into Sudden fortune?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I would talk. We would talk every
Speaker 3: night about that. You know what, what what it would
Speaker 3: look like if we won, and you know what what
Speaker 3: you know how that how all that goes, and how
Speaker 3: life changes if you do win. We just have such
Speaker 3: great chats about the game and about outside of the
Speaker 3: game as well. And that's why, you know, I almost
Speaker 3: knew about his whole life. And I would love nothing
Speaker 3: more than to see Troy take this thing out and
Speaker 3: win it because he could do so much with the money.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 1: Well, mate, I am so happy that I got to
Speaker 1: have this chat with you. There was a list of
Speaker 1: people when the names came out when we got the
Speaker 1: first teaser of all the names.
Speaker 2: I was like, wait to talk.
Speaker 1: I don't know how well you would go whether you
Speaker 1: were in it, to you come out of the start
Speaker 1: or to the end.
Speaker 2: I was like, can't wait to talk to Marley.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being so generous with your
Speaker 1: time and sharing your experience and good luck, and says
Speaker 1: we'll talk next.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's right. Then, thank you so much. The
Speaker 3: next time it will be with sas we'll see. But
Speaker 3: thank you so much. You're a pleasure to talk to
Speaker 3: as always, and I hope that you have an amazing
Speaker 3: day mate, You're the best.
Speaker 1: Absolutely love chatting with Mary as I always do. Here
Speaker 1: is a very worthy and wonderful big Brother winner and
Speaker 1: it was great to see him on the challenge. But
Speaker 1: stick around now as I will get the chance to
Speaker 1: talk to Emily cbomb. She is in the car and
Speaker 1: has some pretty bad reception at times, but I get
Speaker 1: to ask her about Ryan and the new relationship, and
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, just that's kind of
Speaker 1: all that really matters. Hey, stick around for Emily and
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy this chat. Hi, Emily, congratulations on
Speaker 1: surviving the challenge. Australia.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I survived. I mean I lasted
Speaker 4: as long as I could, but I didn't make it
Speaker 4: all the way to the end, which I had hoped for.
Speaker 2: No, you survived the Challenge Australia, because the way I
Speaker 2: watched the show, I felt like I related the most
Speaker 2: to you. The whole way through. I felt like you
Speaker 2: were maybe a.
Speaker 1: Little bit it seemed like you were older than these
Speaker 1: people or I don't know, and putting myself in your shoes,
Speaker 1: I think it might have been a fairly hectic experience.
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely was a hectic experience. I mean, I can
Speaker 4: only play the game as I am as a person,
Speaker 4: and I play an upfront, honest, tell it how it
Speaker 4: is game, and some people don't like that. More than okay,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm happy to not be liked by people. You
Speaker 4: can't be liked by everyone. But I had an amazing
Speaker 4: time and I became friends with some amazing people that
Speaker 4: I absolutely adore, So I'm really happy with my experience.
Speaker 1: Also, my good friend David Subritski mentioned to me before
Speaker 1: You Know You did this show, he mentioned that you
Speaker 1: suffer from sometimes resting bitch face, and so He's like,
Speaker 1: people don't necessarily understand her all the time. She's a
Speaker 1: wonderful person, but she's one suffers from resting bitch face.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more the fact that I can't hide how
Speaker 4: I feel in my face. So if, like, if I
Speaker 4: feel something, you'll just by looking at my face, you'll
Speaker 4: know either I'm annoyed or I'm pissed off or like,
Speaker 4: whatever it is, I show up but in my face
Speaker 4: very quickly. I can't hide that. And I mean I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to hide anything, Like I went on that
Speaker 4: show being like, I am an honest, upfront person. People
Speaker 4: are either going to like it or I'm not going
Speaker 4: to like it. But that's how I'm going to play
Speaker 4: my game. I'm going to play the game as me
Speaker 4: as a person, And I mean it got me to
Speaker 4: where I was, so I mean, I did it right.
Speaker 2: You did so well.
Speaker 1: But you know that is the recipe for the best
Speaker 1: reality TV contestants is if you wear your heart on
Speaker 1: your sleeve, then you are a producer's dream because they
Speaker 1: can always cut to you and you can narrate the situation.
Speaker 1: You are expressing exactly what everyone else is feeling. And
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I couldn't be anyone else other than myself,
Speaker 4: and I wouldn't want to try and put on an
Speaker 4: app So I went in there and I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be the same person that I'm going
Speaker 4: to be outside of this show. I'm going to do,
Speaker 4: you know, whatever I can. Obviously, I have that athlete
Speaker 4: side of me, that's super competitive, focused side of me
Speaker 4: that you know, wants to win all the time, and
Speaker 4: I have that and I took that into the challenge
Speaker 4: as well, and then outside of that, I was just
Speaker 4: one hundred percent me and that's all I could do.
Speaker 1: I also, it was so strange to me you did
Speaker 1: so much research before going in doing the challenge. You know,
Speaker 1: you watched you know, ninety five seasons of the show,
Speaker 1: however many there is, and then then you were you
Speaker 1: surprised that the others hadn't done their homework.
Speaker 4: I mean, like, if you're going to go on to
Speaker 4: a show like you might as well know what you're
Speaker 4: going in for. I was a big fan of the show,
Speaker 4: so when I got the call up for the show,
Speaker 4: I was like home percent down for it, like want it.
Speaker 4: That was one of my goals was to be on
Speaker 4: that show, like obviously the American version of it, and
Speaker 4: if like this version gets me there, that would be fantastic.
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I knew what I was in for,
Speaker 4: and I had trained for it, and I was ready
Speaker 4: for it, and I mean the only thing I couldn't
Speaker 4: anticipate was the social side of the game and all that,
Speaker 4: and that was probably like the part that I was
Speaker 4: maybe unprepared for.
Speaker 1: This is going to make get me into a bit
Speaker 1: of trouble, but I'm just going to say it anyway.
Speaker 1: But early reports were being leaked to journalists back at
Speaker 1: home here in Australia as the filming was happening, and
Speaker 1: the reports will become in were that Emily Sebaum is
Speaker 1: the villain of the series. But I thought it was
Speaker 1: really interesting that that narrative that kept being pushed out
Speaker 1: there had to have been pushed out there by all
Speaker 1: the people that were in your opposing team essentially.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like it's a part of the show
Speaker 4: that people aren't going to get along and they want
Speaker 4: to air that and they want that drama. And I
Speaker 4: just did the best that I could with the people
Speaker 4: that were in there. Like obviously, like we're not all
Speaker 4: going to get along. There were twenty two people in
Speaker 4: one house, Like, we're not always going to get along.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, why was the villain?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 4: I guess I'm the villain.
Speaker 2: I don't think you were the villain at all.
Speaker 1: I think it just says something more about the type
Speaker 1: of people that were leaking stuff to the media, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I think we're only
Speaker 1: getting one side of the story because I've also spoken
Speaker 1: to so many other people that absolutely did not see
Speaker 1: you that way. So you know, obviously there's two things
Speaker 1: can be true at the same time. I guess is
Speaker 1: the best way to describe it. I was just chatting
Speaker 1: to Marley, and Marley I asked him about, you know,
Speaker 1: can you tell a personality, you know, based on the
Speaker 1: show that they were from. You know, once you've been
Speaker 1: in there for a little bit, were you able to go, oh,
Speaker 1: they're bachelor people and they all behave a certain way,
Speaker 1: Like can you categorize the way people are based on
Speaker 1: the show they came from.
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't judge people on where they came from.
Speaker 4: I can only judge people on how they treat me.
Speaker 4: And I guess, like what I can see personally, and
Speaker 4: I mean there was people in there. No I didn't
Speaker 4: get along with them, and like I probably won't be
Speaker 4: friends of them, but that's okay. Like we can't get
Speaker 4: along with everyone every single time, and when we live
Speaker 4: in a space twenty four seven where you can't get
Speaker 4: away from these people, like people will get on your nerves.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure I did that to people too. People
Speaker 4: didn't like me, and I got on people's nerves. But like,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to talk bad about anyone because like
Speaker 4: it is what it is, and it was a game,
Speaker 4: and it was it was for TV, and if that's
Speaker 4: what they need to do, then that's what they needed
Speaker 4: to do. But I'm going to go on the show,
Speaker 4: be myself and let people really see who I am.
Speaker 4: And that's all I can control. I can't control how
Speaker 4: other people see me. I can't control what they say
Speaker 4: about me. And look, to be honest, I don't care.
Speaker 1: What about these rumors about you and Ryan. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously there was rumors floating around you guys.
Speaker 4: Absolutely crap, Hi, shut up.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to know whether or not. I mean, what's
Speaker 1: the real story behind the connection between the two of you.
Speaker 4: Just to d Yeah, well we got on the show
Speaker 4: so well, we were partners on the very first challenge
Speaker 4: we won. We just knew that the entire show that
Speaker 4: we had each other's backs and we weren't going to
Speaker 4: backstab each other. We're going to look out for each
Speaker 4: other and we did and like nothing obviously happened on
Speaker 4: the show, Like we weren't a spa rendezvous and we
Speaker 4: weren't a shower scene. We were completely friends on the
Speaker 4: show and outside of that, there was just something more.
Speaker 1: There, so official confirmation and that you two are Australia's
Speaker 1: hottest reality TV item.
Speaker 4: We're not going to answer, well, I don't know that way,
Speaker 4: but yeah, I don't know what to say that that.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, what did you say? Emily?
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about what Keiki and
Speaker 1: Connor said at the end of the episode, because I
Speaker 1: thought it was really shady. They were kind of like
Speaker 1: they should have just been really noble on what's the
Speaker 1: word that I'm They should have been really humble about
Speaker 1: the way in which they won and they walked away,
Speaker 1: but they were like, oh, she was an Olympian. I
Speaker 1: can't believe we've beate an Olympian. What did you think
Speaker 1: about their reaction to winning.
Speaker 4: Just because I'm an Olympian doesn't mean I can do
Speaker 4: everything Tom Dick and Harry can do like I can't.
Speaker 4: Like I was an Olympian in the water in a pool.
Speaker 4: If you beat me there, then yes, say you've beat
Speaker 4: an Olympian, But like, you didn't beat an Olympian in
Speaker 4: something that she actually does. That's like saying, like me
Speaker 4: doing a makeup competition with Kiki and going I beat
Speaker 4: a makeup artist, like you know, like it doesn't compare
Speaker 4: outside of what you actually are known for.
Speaker 1: I also think growing up I was made to believe
Speaker 1: I'm not made to believe there was a there's a
Speaker 1: certain respect that you give to people who represent Australia
Speaker 1: in the Olympics, and so I couldn't even imagine saying
Speaker 1: anything bad to you. Even if I didn't like you, Emily,
Speaker 1: I would still be like that person represented Australia. I
Speaker 1: have so much respect for them. So like that's kind
Speaker 1: of lost on the next generation in some ways. And
Speaker 1: I guess that was kind of seen in the challenge.
Speaker 2: In a way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't care what I did me
Speaker 4: that was my love. That was my passion. I didn't
Speaker 4: do it for self gratification or for people to stand
Speaker 4: up and give me a round them of course every
Speaker 4: time I enter a room, like I couldn't think of
Speaker 4: anything worse than that. Like I did it for me.
Speaker 4: I didn't do it for anyone else. And I don't,
Speaker 4: like I don't need to just be like seen in
Speaker 4: that certain way, but like, you know, to say comments,
Speaker 4: like some of the comments that were said, like like
Speaker 4: me and Ryan, we're happy and like we like watching
Speaker 4: the show back, like we see what they aired and
Speaker 4: we know what actually happened, and you're good, and yeah,
Speaker 4: we made peace with it a very long time ago,
Speaker 4: like we left the show together and like that was
Speaker 4: the best thing that happened to us, was that show.
Speaker 4: And yeah, like we might not have aired the way
Speaker 4: that we were to hope, but we found each other.
Speaker 3: And now call that. Man.
Speaker 2: I have to ask you these top five need to
Speaker 2: know questions.
Speaker 1: Feel free to throw yourself under the bus with the
Speaker 1: answers or say it or play the fifth, but everyone
Speaker 1: who's joined the podcast has had them. Alrighty are you ready? Okay,
Speaker 1: who was the nicest contestant in there? Bryan Who was
Speaker 1: the biggest villain?
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know, that's hard. I mean the person
Speaker 4: that I didn't get along with the most was probably Connor.
Speaker 2: Who was the messiest person that you live with?
Speaker 4: The messiest? Probably David.
Speaker 1: Yeah, boys in general, everyone that was on this show,
Speaker 1: Like all these boys are so messy.
Speaker 2: It's it's just it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 2: Who's the funniest person in there?
Speaker 4: David?
Speaker 2: I just love d I've.
Speaker 1: Got David for so long and I just think he's
Speaker 1: the night Like I've known him since he was fifteen,
Speaker 1: and he's it's just so funny.
Speaker 2: He's larger than life. It needs his own show. And
Speaker 2: who was Who did you want to win?
Speaker 1: Like when you left the competition, not what you know now,
Speaker 1: don't let any other things into the equation, but who
Speaker 1: did you want to win?
Speaker 5: Who did I want to win? I wanted myself to win,
Speaker 5: and if I didn't win, I want to rhyme win.
Speaker 5: And if we didn't win, and I wanted Sugar or
Speaker 5: Grant win, I mean yeah, I wanted anyone that I
Speaker 5: was like really that had my back for me, that
Speaker 5: was a.
Speaker 2: Part of your alliance, which is understandable.
Speaker 1: Can I just say so lovely to be able to
Speaker 1: have this chat with you, and thank you for being
Speaker 1: so generous with your time that means a lot to me,
Speaker 1: so worried anytime