WEBVTT - Sammy Robinson’s Multi-Million Dollar Pay Cheque, Elle Darby Returns & Skye Wheatley’s Rat Saga Continues 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.360 Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're dose of the hottest 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:07.320 influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.280 Torbert and I'm joined by my sisters and journalists Kate 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.080 and Amy. On today's show, El Darby returns to social 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:19.760 media following those racist tweets, Sammy Robinson's multi million dollar payday, 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.520 and Sarah's day opens up about her body dysmorphia. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.479 Now, so before we get into it, I need to 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.120 shame you because I received a very panicked call from 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:32.440 you and Amy. You've just been on a five k 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:36.080 walk and you lost your car keys during that walk, 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.400 so you could not get home. Amy's keys were inside 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.800 your car. What is going on with you? 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.000 Yeah? It wasn't my finest hour, But sadly, I'm quite 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.880 known for doing Steve a chit like this. It always 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.360 happens to me. Every time it happens, I text my 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.240 boyfriend and say, why does this happen to me all 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:53.880 of the time. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.240 I have to admit I did tell some of our 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.320 mutual friends and most of their responses was that seems 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:00.840 like a very so thing to do. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:03.640 It is Sophia is literally that person that will lose 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.440 an important usb. You have lost house keys before, so 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.800 it wasn't surprising when you turned to me and said, oh, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.360 I don't have my key. Well, it's the worst because 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.240 sometimes I get you to hold stuff for me on 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.399 a walk, because you're usually in your puffa jacket and 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.080 I was wearing well, I thought I was wearing my 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.360 Lorna Jane tights that don't have pockets, because usually I 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.479 would put my key safely in my pocket. And you're 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.720 really mad at me, Amy, and you're like, why don't 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.560 you put it in your fucking pocket? And then I said, 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.840 because these parts don't have any pockets, and then you're like, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.640 they do, look to your side, they do. 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.520 So can I maybe purchase you a dog walking bag 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.720 that you can put your keys in. I really need 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:45.119 bags and phone because this just I couldn't believe when 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:47.720 you said you just hold your key on your finger 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:48.440 like what. 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.200 She was hilarious because it got pretty desperate. So we 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.960 retraced our steps for five k's and the sun was out, 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.440 so I told Sophie's boyfriend to come and rescue us, 0:01:57.480 --> 0:01:59.680 and we told him to bring a coat hanger down 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.920 because Sophie's car had previously been broken into it, so 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.000 I felt like we might be able to get in 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.120 through the window anyway. So we looked so Dodgy were 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.600 standing down this street, and I need to set the scene. 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.840 Sophie's wearing her white pajama top that she got from 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.480 Gray Lines. It says hornbag on it. I actually I 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.160 wore it to bed and I thought, oh, yeah, I 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.119 just wore wear it on the walk this morning, and yeah, 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.400 I didn't think i'd come into contact with so many people. 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.440 And when the RAA guy came, I did have to 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.600 chuck your jacket on, Amy because I thought, oh, this 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.440 is a bit of a weird look. The most annoying 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.800 thing was I could see my keys that I had 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.760 left in your car, and I had a wet vacuum 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.320 cleaner that I used for my end of lease clean 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.480 in my own car that I needed to return. So 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.480 I was absolutely fuming at you, and so Sophie's boyfriend 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.840 and I were just ragging on her the whole time. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.919 I actually felt sorry for myself, but I just defending myself. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.320 Here was a complete accident. It's not like I'm maliciously 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.280 you know. It was on this walk and threw the 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:00.760 keys in the books call. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.720 Though, how did you not feel or hear the It's 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.639 like a transponder key drop because it's not like it's 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.600 just one single key. It's got you know, like the 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:11.799 buttons and stuff on it that surely would have made 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:12.239 a sound. 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.760 I detached my normal keys, which have key rings and 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.560 everything from it. It's quite a light key, so I 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:19.880 don't know that. And that's the most annoying thing when 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.160 you lose something and everyone's like, well, do you remember 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.160 where you dropped it? And it's like, well, it wouldn't 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.920 be lost if I remember where I dropped it, But 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.200 it always is in the last place you look a me. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.880 Maybe you need a lanyard. Remember when they were in 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:32.880 at high school used to have your locker keys on 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:33.480 a lanyard. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.120 I'm not in your eight Kate. I don't think I'm 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.400 going to start wearing a lanyard. 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.480 Yeah, but all that shit's coming back in maybe you 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:39.040 should bring. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:40.880 It back to you. True. 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.640 I never thought i'd say this, but the sky Wheatley 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.360 Rat saga has continued this week, and for those listeners 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.680 who are a bit squeamish, I'll just add a trigger 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.080 warning here. You may want to fast forward, particularly if 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.880 you are eating now as a refresher. Last week, Sky 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.480 shared that she had taken a liking to a litter 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.640 of baby rats that had been born in her pantry, 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.680 so much so that she took them from the nest 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:10.200 and filmed herself holding them, and subsequently the four baby 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.840 rats were abandoned by their mother. Now, Sky was quite 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:18.600 distraught by the incident and wanted to save the rats' lives. However, sadly, 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.839 when she took them to an animal shelter, they had 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.799 to be euthanized. Now, this week, things got even weirder 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.200 when Sky's partner Lockie, shared that their son Forest was 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.279 taking a dead rat to KINDI for show and tell. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.560 Now, the rat was in a plastic. 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.920 Container which had screws in the lids so it couldn't 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.400 be opened, and Lockee later shared a photo of Forest 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.400 with a group of kids around him with the caption 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.560 the rat was his success. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.800 What did you guys think about all of this? Well, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.960 the listener actually forwarded me the post, which was put 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.680 up by Locke, Sky's partner, and I was in disbelief. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.720 It was so gross to see a little boy holding 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.680 a fucking rat in a container, and he kept kind 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.920 of turned owning the container around so you could just 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:04.640 see the rat's body going around in circle. I just 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.760 couldn't help but think how dangerous is this to send 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.760 a dead rat to a school with children. I'd be 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:13.080 so pissed off if I was one of the parents 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.760 of the children in this class, and imagine the poor teacher. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.599 Well, particularly when obviously we're talking about germs. But secondly, 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.440 there are a lot of kids that may not know 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.279 about death. It's something that you know, you don't know 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.559 what parents have discussed with their children, So it's pretty 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.800 confronting to have a dead rat in a plastic container. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.400 Also, it might prompt children to. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.960 Go out and find dead animals and touch them, and 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.360 you know, that's just it's just disgusting and a lot 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:39.440 of it's quite dangerous. 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.400 And as someone and as someone pointed out in our 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.040 Facebook group, what if someone brought a dead cat to school, 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.479 because they probably call the cops on it is it 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.920 does it make it different that it's a rodent? I 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:50.800 know this isn't supposed to be a funny matter, but 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:56.480 does anyone else think that this was mother rat that yeah, actually. 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.200 Had a Q and A going on on her? Page, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.800 and someone asked for an update the mother rat, and 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:03.240 she said she will do one later. So if there 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.240 is an update, we'll have to come back on the 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.159 mics and discuss it. I think, because I feel like 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.400 her announcement will be quite interesting. 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.239 Surely that was Mamma rat. Surely there aren't more rats 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:12.839 in this house. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.800 The thing is Sky was so distraught about having to 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:18.520 euthanize the baby rats, and then they're kind of sort 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.880 of making fun of this other rat that's dead and 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:22.800 parading it around. It seems all very old. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.479 I did have to giggle when Lockie was like, he's 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.920 long gone, mate, He's long gone. Have you ever heard 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.480 of the bubonic plague? Manuel? It was very popular here 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:33.039 at one time. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:38.360 A lot of pedigree hamsters came over on ships from Siberia. 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.360 Hamster is not hamster. Hamsters are small and cuddly. Cuddle this. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:44.760 You'd never played the guitar again. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.800 Recently, we discussed how Sammy Robinson's fashion brand One Mile 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:55.719 attracted mainstream media attention when at debooed at Australian Fashion Week. Now, 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.520 most of the media commentary centered around the shift we've 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:02.520 seen in the fashion landscape regarding influencers, and previously it 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.560 was seen as pretty tacky to have influences in attendance 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.880 at fashion Week, but now they're not only sitting front row, 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.880 but actually putting on a successful runway show themselves. And 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.800 one thing that was missing from the coverage though, was 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.640 the information around one mile sales and revenue. And this 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.840 week Sammy subtly gave us an insight into just how 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.520 much one Mile has potentially made in the last two years. 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:28.840 So can you talk us through what happened in this 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:29.640 YouTube video? 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.040 Well? In the latest video, Sammy took viewers behind the 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.280 scenes of one miles debut at Fashion Week, and in 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.680 the video, Sammy and her staff celebrated one Mile's second 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:43.240 birthday with a cake and also a birthday card listing 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.720 the milestones they have achieved as a brand now. Sammy 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.680 showed the card to the camera, which read, today is 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.840 our second birthday. So far, we have ninety two thousand followers, 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:58.800 donated forty eight thousand dollars, made forty nine thousand orders, 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:03.320 and sold eighty four thousand pieces in less than ten days. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.240 We were about to have our first debut fashion show 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.600 when I saw that one Mile had sold over eighty 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.840 four thousand pieces. I was so taken back because I 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.320 suppose you never really truly know how successful these influencer 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.880 brands are. Often you here that they've sold out, but 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.520 you don't actually know how many units of clothing that was. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.400 And of course the fact that Sammy was showing her 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.200 close at fashion Week meant that, yeah, it must be 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.120 somewhat successful. The numbers really do help to put that 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:35.360 success into perspective, and I did some calculations and one 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:38.760 miles pieces are usually around seventy two, one hundred and 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.120 fifty dollars, with the most expensive item being a trench 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.840 coat for two hundred and eighty nine dollars. So to 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.240 get an idea of one miles revenue, I multiplied the 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:52.440 eighty four thousand sales by one hundred dollars for roughly 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:56.520 each item, which equates to a whopping eight point four 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.240 million dollars worth of sales for Sammy Gosh Well. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.439 The number really stood out to me because the figures 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.880 were very similar to the sales of the Inspired Unemployed 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.960 beer brand Better Beer. So, for those who missed it, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.640 last week, it was revealed that the brand had generated 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:14.880 ten million dollars worth of sales since its launched six 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.320 months ago. Now, I originally thought that Jack and Falcon 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.400 had a one hundred percent steak in the brand, but 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.400 that was pretty naive of me, because the boys were 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:28.000 actually approached by Better Beer's founders, Nick Koger and Mighty Craft, 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.440 and they were each offered a twenty percent steak in 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.880 the company for their seal of approval, and the founders 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.120 believed with the right marketing, their low carb zero sugar 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.560 beer would be very popular in Australia. But I don't 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.280 think even they anticipated just how popular it would be. 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.840 With the Inspired unemployees backing, Better Beer is the fastest 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.640 growing new beer brand launched in the last eight years, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.199 which is pretty incredible. It's pretty reminiscent of Abby Chatfield's 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.560 success with Bush the sex toy Company, because they had 0:09:56.640 --> 0:09:59.360 the product already. They say that Abby obviously had a 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:00.000 little bit to do. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.319 The design of it, but it's an example of brands 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.160 that just grab these influences and make them the face 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:07.480 of it and just do so well. 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.000 Yeah, and with this media coverage around the Inspired Unemployed 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.480 Beer brand, it was almost like, wow, look at them, 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.600 They're so successful. They've helped make ten million dollars worth 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.040 of sales. But with Sammy, there was no mention with 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.240 the coverage of one mile at Fashion Week how much 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.000 money she had made. And I was wondering if that 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.839 was something that was intentionally left out by her brand, 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.720 because she was interviewed a lot, and I mean she 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.360 subtly put in that she'd done eighty four thousand dollars 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:37.000 worth of sales, but I was wondering would female audiences 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.480 not like it if she went on and said, well, 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.160 I've actually sold eight. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.679 Million dollars worth of clothes. I think maybe it was 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.520 a conscious move not to actually say how much they'd made, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.560 because it's the same with Abby. We've never actually heard 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.160 the figure that she made with her vibrators. Well, I 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.080 think it's historically because money is seen as a taboo 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.400 topic for women. So perhaps Sammy didn't want to outrightly 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.280 say how much money the brand is making. And women 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.760 are often taught from a young age that it's impolite 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.000 to talk about money and to keep their finances private. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:08.640 So perhaps it's coming from that perspective. Because I even 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.320 known business, I hate talking about figures and money can 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:14.000 be a really uncomfortable topic. 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.839 I do wonder if this whole approach to females and 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.840 money has something to do with why there are so 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:25.200 many question marks about how much influencers make because female 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.360 influencers make up the majority when it comes to top earners, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.920 and I wonder if that's why the paychecks are so secret, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.920 because women don't want to come out and say, yeah, 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.839 I'm actually earning this much money, whereas when you think 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:39.199 about male entrepreneurs, they're constantly flashing their cash and talking 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:43.000 about their massive paychecks and being really particular about this 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:43.439 is how much. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.719 Well. I don't necessarily agree, I do see where you're 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.480 coming from, but I think that there's more secretcy around 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.479 what influence has earned because it is such a substantial 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.960 figure and the work they're seeing isn't really something you 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.880 have to invest a lot of time in, so people 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.560 don't see it as being particularly difficult. I think also 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.000 there's a lot of privacy, probably from the brands of 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.800 people not wanting with the brands not wanting people to 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.480 know how much they're investing in these people. When I 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.440 saw that article about the Inspired Unemployed, I actually thought 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.079 that that could potentially be damaging to their brand because 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.640 they are seen as being incredibly relatable and that could 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.800 damage the perception people have of them. Well, they recently 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.160 addressed it in a podcast, not so much the money factor, 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.240 but they were talking about how they'd been in a 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.120 whole heap of meetings recently and they tried to make 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.679 themselves sound relatable because they said, all these guys are 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.760 talking figures and about marketing, about SEO, and they had 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:35.720 no idea what they were talking about, and they had 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.600 to take a few toilet breaks where they were like, 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.880 what the fuck is going on. I also heard in 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:42.880 another interview that Jack said that they actually reject ninety 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.240 five percent of brand deals that come their way, and 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.920 they only take on deals that are actually interested in 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:50.280 the brand and like the brand. 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.559 And I know there's a lot of influencers out there 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.400 that say that, but when you have a look at 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.120 who they've worked with, it has been pretty good brand 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.640 alignment from their end. And do you know what I 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.400 think is quite a gendered thing, because when I looked 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.319 at her, I was like, Oh, good on him. 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:04.720 That's cool. 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.160 They've made ten million dollars. But if I'm going to 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.760 be completely honest, when I had calculated how much Sammy 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:11.280 Robbins had had made. There was a bit of me 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:13.560 that was like, oh, that's a lot of money and 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.320 that's terrible that I but that was just my natural instinct, 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:18.120 well away. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:20.240 From the whole gender thing. I think one of the 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.360 reasons people probably feel differently about Sammy Robinson and the 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.720 Inspired Unemployed is because Sammy comes from an incredibly privileged background. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.319 You just have to have a look at the house 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.439 she grew up in. You know, she has this beautiful 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:35.160 view of Sydney Harbor Bridge. Her family's obviously very very rich, 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.559 and then you look at the inspired unemployed, who were 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.520 former tradees and who really have come from nothing. I 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.360 think that's why a lot of people have brought into 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.600 the success story of the Inspired unemployed. But people also 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.439 like to turn on those sort of people when they 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:48.920 do well. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.760 Yeah, I think that they at some stage will be 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.239 hit by the tall poppy syndrome. In terms of comparing 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.600 Sammy and then the Inspired unemploys content, though, I think 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.120 it's because I really get a lot out of their content, 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.760 like it's always very clever and funny. Whereas Sammy, we 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.040 always joke about how she often chose just her stacking 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.719 a dishwasher. I've got to say though, when I did 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.760 watch her YouTube video about her brand launch, I felt 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.720 like a proud mum watching it because she has really 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.680 done amazing things with her brand, and I think that 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.480 it's hard as a woman not to sit back and 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.760 be a little bit jealous of it because I suppose, 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.760 as you said, so, if she is in a privileged position, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.680 but we shouldn't take away her achievements just because of that. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.440 Do We've had a million follows like ten hours now 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.920 do you feel any different? No any emails yet, Jimmy 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.280 fallon Great Naun Show. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:40.400 Surely Ellen nothing? Why I come on back the dishwasher please? 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:41.840 Oh for fuck? 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:46.720 Say Corney Kardashian and Travis Barker's lavish wedding celebrations in 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.680 Italy have been overshadowed by their dinner selection. Fans were 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.600 left shocked after Kylie Jenna shared a video of what 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.960 looked like bite sized portions of pasta. Now. It sent 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.480 Twitter into a blaze. One person tweeted, the past a 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.320 portion size at Courtney Kardashian's wedding is one of the 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.480 saddest things I've ever seen. Another wrote, that's how much 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.280 I eat to check if it's cooked. Someone else also 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.920 wrote had better be a thirty coarse meal. Now what 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.200 did you guys think about this? Pasta debate? 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.560 I'd be disappointed by this. Let's be honest. It looks minuscule. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.200 Do you know what it actually look like? You know 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.880 that tin spaghetti you get in a can. It looks 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.760 like someone is just spaghetti that you get. Oh sorry, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:27.880 you know what I mean. Looks like someone has literally 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.520 dollopped a tiny bit of spaghetti on the plate. The 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:34.800 plates were beautiful, though, Maybe that's why. Maybe whoever designed 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.440 the plates was trying to get a lot of attention 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.240 and didn't want too much spaghetti ruining it. Because everyone's 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.120 talking about it, surely this was a one of you know, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.560 as a person said, thirty course meal or something. This 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.280 can't have been a main serve. 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.640 Well can you imagine spending millions of dollars on a 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.960 wedding only to have the food mocked publicly. I do 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.160 think this has become such a big deal, though, because 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:59.160 everyone has been in a situation where they're starving at 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.360 a wedding and they've been shafted with food. 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.720 Do you reckon that Kendall Jenna was serving up the 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:06.920 plates because you know, she's clearly got no idea how 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.560 to cut a cue cup. But maybe she doesn't know 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.280 non model portion sizes. You just give them a little bit. 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.320 I've been to a wedding once, this is years ago, 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.640 where people were literally trying to fight each other for 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.320 Aaron Cheney balls because everyone was so hungry. That's a 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:25.520 fear of mine, having a wedding where people do go hungry. Yeah, 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.240 food is such an important part. I know a friend 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.680 of mine he went to a wedding and he's Italian, 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.400 so he's used to all the five course meal and 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:35.680 he said that somebody is served in what looked like 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.080 just the cone of a cornetto, and he asked the 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.760 waitress where's the rest of this? Yeah, that's the thing 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.000 I reckon. It's one of these rich people thinks that 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.200 us commoners don't get, you know, when they serve like 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.440 minuscule amounts at fancy restaurants and are supposed to be, 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:53.800 you know, really good. They'd be going to McDonald's after surely, Hello. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.800 Gorgeous angels, welcome back to my YouTube channel. 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:57.520 You're gonna lead your cups of teeth? 0:16:57.560 --> 0:16:59.200 Can you just all go and get like a ridiculous 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:02.680 amount of snacks. We got digestives, we got married an cookies. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:07.760 Elle Darby has returned to Instagram five months after racist, homophobic, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:12.160 and fat phobic tweets she sent as a teenager resurfaced. Now, 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.040 the twenty six year old who launched clothing brand Angel 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.240 Collection off the back of her success as a YouTuber, 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:23.920 saw her followers drop by one hundred thousand during the scandal. Now, 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.560 in the tweets that were made more than a decade ago, 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:30.800 Elle called foreigners meatheads who speak in grunts and said 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.399 she hates Polish people and Indians. Now. At the time, 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.679 Elle released an apology on her YouTube channel, which was 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.520 branded by some as insincere. Now. Since then, as we 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:45.040 have discussed on the show, there was radio silence. But 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.520 that was until Sunday when Elle made her grand return 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.600 to Instagram. Now this post has been liked by more 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.119 than one hundred thousand people, with many of her supporters 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:59.320 saying that glad El has returned amy. This apology was 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.879 quite lengthy. Can you touch on a couple of the 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.080 pivotal points in it? Yeah? Well, Elle started the apology 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.200 by saying, there are a few times in life when 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.879 it makes more sense to just stop, to take your breath, 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:13.840 to reevaluate, to revisit areas that need deeper healing, and 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.359 to return when you have the right message rooted in 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.360 authenticity and truth. It's all about authenticity in truth, I think, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.240 particularly in a pr apology like this exactly. So Ll 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.000 continued on by saying that she has too many thoughts 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.639 and feelings to fit into one caption or one video, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:32.959 so she has instead translated them into values and lessons 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:37.000 she's learned offline and will be reinforcing in her online presence. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:42.160 I found the mention of her online presence fascinating because 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.959 I wonder how she will show these new values and 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.280 lessons in her new YouTube videos, because I feel like 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.200 it's really difficult to do that in an authentic way. 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:56.280 If you remember back to the Braid scandal with White 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.119 Fox and Sarah's day on her story, she was trying 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:01.959 to show that she had learnt and you know, she 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.760 was buying aboriginal artwork, and it just came across as 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.840 very disingenuous. So I do wonder how these new lessons 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.320 that she's going to show are going to come across online. 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.280