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Speaker 1: Job mission with Jonesy and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you didn't know, our next guest was an author.

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Speaker 2: Where the hell have you been? He's written about thirty books.

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Speaker 2: They are all incredibly well researched, really readable, which isn't

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Speaker 2: always the way with history books. They're always interesting, and

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Speaker 2: they're usually so big you need a really big Christmas

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Speaker 2: stocking to jam it into. Well, he's back with a

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Speaker 2: new one that goes way back in Australian history, this

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Speaker 2: time exploring the epic story of Hubert Wilkins, brother of Richard.

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Speaker 2: To tell us more, Peter fitz Simon's Hello.

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Speaker 3: That's a very good introduction. Yet he was a very

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Speaker 3: famous man with big blond of music in the early

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Speaker 3: part of last century.

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Speaker 2: Interesting times in your house, Pete. Your wife Lisa has

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Speaker 2: a book out as well, a bit of rivalry at

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Speaker 2: home books out at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, I'll tell you what I was very sad. There

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Speaker 3: was a lovely piece in there in Lisa's manuscript about

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Speaker 3: Brendan Jones, and we had to find how much he

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Speaker 3: loved Brendan Jones about or what was it about seventeen

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Speaker 3: years ago when they were trialing together for some show yep,

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Speaker 3: and I personally had to take the scissors to it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, Brendan, but that just ended up on

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Speaker 3: the cutting room. What did you cut it out? Why?

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Speaker 3: Because we had to save two or three hundred words,

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Speaker 3: And I said, Brenda's going to have to take one

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Speaker 3: for the team. So she had this big thing about

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Speaker 3: this charismatic bloke that wrote it a motorbike. She and Lisa,

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Speaker 3: Lisa and he had this wonderful chemistry and they really

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Speaker 3: got on. Well, but poor of Brenda, I said, Darling,

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Speaker 3: let me do it. So I just you know.

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Speaker 2: Carl instead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you sent me a text about that. You

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Speaker 1: sent me a text that I was in the book.

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Speaker 1: And then so now I haven't actually read the book.

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Speaker 2: Now it doesn't have to read now.

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Speaker 1: There's no need for me to read it. Why do

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Speaker 1: I need? Maybe I'll just cut you guys out of

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Speaker 1: my life.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's a tough world of publishing. So Peter,

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Speaker 2: to my shame. I don't even know who Hubert Wilkins is.

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Speaker 2: You describe him as the Australian forest gump over to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it's interesting. He he did so many extraordinary

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Speaker 3: things and yet he's practically unknown in Australia. He was

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Speaker 3: indeed the forest gump of Australia. He was at present

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Speaker 3: at so many key times in history of fascinating people.

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Speaker 3: He was exploring the Arctic when he heard about the

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Speaker 3: First World Ward started, so he treked back to Australia.

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Speaker 3: He joined up with Charles Been, the Great War correspondent.

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Speaker 3: He became a photographer and cinematographer there in the battlefields

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Speaker 3: of the Western Front. When the red baron came down,

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Speaker 3: who was Johnny on the spot? That would be George

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Speaker 3: Hubert Wilkins. He then treked afterwards to Gallipoli. He was

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Speaker 3: in the Great Centenary Air Race, which was a famous

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Speaker 3: event in nineteen nineteen when Shackleton died. He was there

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Speaker 3: when he first I forgot to mention when he first

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Speaker 3: got to England, a ship called the Titanic was leaving.

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Speaker 3: Just as he pulled in. He interviewed Vladimir Lenin. Just

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Speaker 3: before Vladimir Lenin, he was there. He was the first

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Speaker 3: one to land on Arctic Antarctic ice and go, hang on,

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Speaker 3: this is a bit dinner than it was ten years ago,

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Speaker 3: what's going on? And so he was always he met

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Speaker 3: these extraordinary people did these amazing things. Sir John Monash,

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Speaker 3: who was the great, who was the great Australian general

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Speaker 3: of the First World War said, and I quote the

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Speaker 3: bravest man in my command was Shubert Wilkins. I mean

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Speaker 3: just unbelievable. And Hubert Wilkins was so self effacing that

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Speaker 3: he saw he contacted John Monash and said, listen, thanks

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Speaker 3: very much, but I really just want to get on

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Speaker 3: with my life. You had men that won the Victoria

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Speaker 3: Cross under your command, so please you just leave me alone.

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Speaker 3: It's basically what he said. I mean amazing, but the

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Speaker 3: cause of his fame. There are so many things that

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Speaker 3: made him famous, but he was the first one to

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Speaker 3: say I think I can get a plane to take

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Speaker 3: off the Northern Alaska, fly over the polar ice cap

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Speaker 3: and land in Norway. They said it couldn't be done.

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Speaker 3: One time, they were right, second time they were right.

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Speaker 3: Third time he did it. And then he said, I

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Speaker 3: think I can take a submarine under the polar ice cap.

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Speaker 3: They said it couldn't be done, and this time they

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Speaker 3: were right. But twenty but it was done afterwards, and

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Speaker 3: the measure will be fame too. He was so he

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Speaker 3: came from sort of the black stump in South Australia,

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Speaker 3: and from there the arc of his life. He became

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Speaker 3: so internationally famous and revered on the front page of

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Speaker 3: the New York Times three days in a row when

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Speaker 3: he'd playing over the top of the world, but so revered.

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Speaker 3: But when he died in the late nineteen fifties, the

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Speaker 3: US submarine bearing his ashes surfaced at the North Pole

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Speaker 3: and scattered his ashes, and it was he was an

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Speaker 3: enormous figure who did so many extraordinary things, and yet

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Speaker 3: practically unknown in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Why is that because you were editing the book and

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Speaker 1: you're cutting out.

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Speaker 2: That just someone got chopped out of the Bible on

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Speaker 2: this good on you.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you both for having me. Are really nice

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Speaker 3: of you. Thank you Jonesy and Amanda's gamation