WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY - MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA - MIMI 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.680 TV Reload the podcast Last Weep Neverlin. Hey guys, welcome 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:08.640 back to TV Reload. Thank you for clicking and downloading. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.200 On today's episode with Mimi, one of the eliminated contestants 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:15.720 on Mastership Australia for twenty twenty four, I had a 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.560 technical difficulty on Monday, and while we could have just 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.360 let this chat go to the gods, so many people 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.440 were demanding I circle back, and I think that has 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.639 a lot to do with the popularity of Mimi. Born 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.560 in Hong Kong, Mimi moved to Sydney age one, but 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:33.400 returned to Hong Kong to live at the age of 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.800 eleven for seven years with her beloved grandmother following her parents' divorce. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.159 She and her brother were raised in a humble Hong 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.280 Kong public housing, her grandmother instilling in them the philosophies 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:49.080 of being a nurturer, cook and caretaker. Mimi is highly 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.919 curious and a highly curious cook as an adult, and 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.360 I think audiences really connected to Mimy's honesty and integrity 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:59.240 this season. Her background is in teaching high school and 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.400 there is the that this woman enjoys learning and pushing herself. 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.360 We will unpack the inner monologue that occurs when filming 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.800 reality television and what the week has been like since 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.280 exiting the competition. There is a great opportunity to talk 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.360 about who Mimi would like to see whin the show 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.560 at this point, and I will flip the question on 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.840 who her favorite judge has been this season. We will 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.959 talk about her students and what the feedback has been like. 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.880 This week. We will dive deep into the idea that you. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.360 Can control your edit and what you're thinking, and I 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.920 think people will really enjoy Mimi's behind the scenes secret 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.120 that involves some pranking that happened during the season. There's 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.280 actually so much to unpack with Mimy as I always say, 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.400 so sit back and relax as we unpack her time 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.520 in the Mastershef Australian Kitchen. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.760 MORNI, Hi, how are you? Hi, Ben? 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:49.400 How are you? 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:50.920 I'm doing very well. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.280 You know, this is the only time I've ever had 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:57.960 to re record a chat with anyone. But interestingly enough, 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.880 when I didn't play your chat before, Harry, I had 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.280 all of these Master Chef fans coming for me and 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:05.320 they were like, how very dare you? 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:06.720 Oh? 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.280 Well now I'm feeling very special. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.800 Yeah, for people who are listening to this podcast, this 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.919 is a do over, but I did not want you 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:15.919 to miss out on being able to hear some tea 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.400 from Mimy and to unpack her time on the show. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:19.880 So welcome back, Mimy. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.560 Don't give Ben too much grief. He's a good chat. 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.120 I'm very happy to do it again. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.320 Well, I just think it's good for me to talk 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.560 to you pretty much every day because I'm such a 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.640 big fan. Maybe I'm just like you know, your hype 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:32.760 girl in the background. 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:33.440 I love that. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.480 I feel very good about myself with you and my 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.359 hype girl, and I got to talk to you every day. 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.239 Well, it's quite interesting because I think I can only 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.240 add further information to what we were discussing the other day, 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.440 and so many other people that were so many people 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.120 that watch the show were saying that they could see 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.920 that you are this deep thinker. You're not somebody who 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:54.560 stands on other people. You're just who you are, and 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.480 that made people feel like they were represented by you, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:02:59.639 which I think is quite an amazing thing to hear. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.560 It certainly is, and it's not something that I it's 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.280 not a compliment that I get given often. But when 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.440 I think back to my experience on the show, it 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:13.120 was very important to me that I represented myself in 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.920 everything that I did as much as possible, because you know, 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.080 as a high school teacher, that's what. 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:20.080 I do day to day. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:25.279 But going into this experience of competitive cooking and working television, 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.040 I think as a deep thinker. One of the promises 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.680 I made to myself was to make sure that I 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.320 stuck to my guts as much as possible, because everyone 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:36.280 has an opinion, and everyone has a thing to say, 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.160 and everyone has a way of approaching cooking and how 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:42.280 to navigate this competition. So from day one, that was 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.080 just something that I said was important and I stuck 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:45.600 to it. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.240 It's so interesting because this has never happened where I'm 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.800 talking to someone a couple of days away. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.200 From the experience. I'd love to know what's. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.040 It like when you're looking back a few days later 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:00.080 and you've had more time to unpack it, Like there 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.120 were a difference between how you're sort of looking at 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.080 the whole experience to how we spoke about it the 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:04.560 other day. 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.840 Look immediately, I think you're still I was still imbued 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:13.000 with so much of the anxiety in fears of what 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.240 other people would think or say with the outcome of 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.240 the competition, especially in my placement. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.279 You know, it's just my brain voice doing. 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.520 The worst case scenario thing, which it happens to a 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:25.560 lot of people. But over the course of the last 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.160 few days, I actually had a lot of my colleagues 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:31.960 call me asking, you know, how I am, and that 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:33.920 they were super proud of me, And I think it 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:35.920 was kind of a bit of a wake up call. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:37.400 The whole time, one of. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:41.160 My fears was thinking that I had disappointed a lot 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.200 of people, But a lot of the feedback. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:48.000 I've gotten from fans and from friends and family was just, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.200 you know, a huge reminder of what an achievement this 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.880 is to just even be a part of the show 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:56.560 and let alone make it this far. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:01.160 And now, you know, I'm just thrilled and super excited 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.159 to go out and create all these new things. Much 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.000 of my attitude on experience now is just trying to 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:12.240 take the best of the poise in the competition and 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.520 the creativity that I had during it and apply it 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.160 to my profile of work. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.640 Now, what do you think we're so hard on ourselves? 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.240 Because I don't think you're I don't think you're alone. 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.680 I really don't. I think that when you put yourself 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.680 out there, and this is a different sort of thing 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.840 to that saying putting yourself out there, This. 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.160 Is literally putting yourself out there. You are national television, 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.760 you know what I mean. But why when we in. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.320 Everyday life, when we put ourselves out there, do we 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:39.280 allow this self doubt. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:39.800 To creep in? 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.679 Because there must be something in our minds that tells 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:43.880 us that we did a good job. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.599 This is a very complex question, but I think my 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.080 self doubt has always been a safety need for failure. 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.080 I think that's true in a lot. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.880 Of cases with the students that I see every day 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.800 as well. It's like you doubt yourself first so that 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.680 you prepare yourself for what's worst. And you're much less 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.840 a fool if you prepare to fail than if you're 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.480 prepare to succeed. And I think that's how that's how 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.680 society wishes it to be. It is that people are 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.520 humble and down to earth and not filled with pride 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.760 and ego, and we kind of let those voices get 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.520 to us. And I have to say, you know, this 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.880 whole journey has been as equal about food as it has. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.520 Been about my own confidence. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.560 And I think a lot of times I did come 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.039 across as super bubbly and unfazed, but behind the scenes 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.719 there was a lot of hard work put in to 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.880 make sure that I could put my best foot forward 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.479 in that way as well. Espe in those first few weeks, 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.600 the self doubt was so intense. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.440 It was so intense that I even. 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.240 Struggled to be my fuller self because I was so 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:50.160 stuck into considering my own mental health and how it 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:51.839 was going to affect the people around me. 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.920 And yeah, it's not often. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.960 Spoken about, but I think it is important to touch 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:58.520 on that. You know, we are human beings at the 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.520 end of the day. And yeah, I'm just really glad 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.719 that it's after a few days from elimination. 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.039 I'm really glad I can look back on it with 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:06.880 a smile. Now. 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:10.520 Maybe we've just become really good at masking things. Because 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.080 it's funny. Some people will say to me that I 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.600 come across a certain way because I sound quite confident 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.320 at times. Probably not all the time, but people will 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.680 see that, and in actual fact, my Mum will say 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.800 to them, no, out of my children he's the most insecure. 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.400 But I've also perfected that, you know what I mean, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.160 I've perfected the art of making sure people can't see 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.640 that from me. And so I think people would be 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.800 surprised about what goes on inside the inner monologue, inside 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.720 what we're saying to ourselves, because what we project isn't 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.120 always exactly how we feel. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.080 That's very interesting, and I really appreciate you first sharing 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.640 that then, because I just there was actually so much 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.000 turmoil of me considering that, because I really wanted to 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.680 be authentic. But then in being authentic, you then think 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.800 about if you are working on television, so much of 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:00.800 it is a performance, and because it isn't unnecessary amount 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.840 of narrating about yourself and about how you feel, and 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.160 people forget that, it's like an an unordinary amount of 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:12.120 talking about yourself and huge adjustment as someone who is 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.320 I feel like a day to day human being. I 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.880 have about of self doubt, abouts of confidence. 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.160 Good moments, bad moments. 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.520 You then just have to factor in the part where 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.560 you have to announce what you're feeling in announce the 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:31.440 changes in your disposition, and it then just becomes extremely complicated, 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.200 to say the least, It was definitely an incredible journey 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.640 of self discovery, and you know, I'm very glad to 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.160 come out of this with a brand new kind of 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.760 like a like a Mimi version that all. 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.920 Maybe it's three point zero in your life. Yeah, you know, 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.319 I often say that to my friends. I say, maybe it's, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.720 but you know what it's while while you finish up 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.480 on that point, I want to say, whatever is happening 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.360 behind the scenes, or whatever happened behind the scene when 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.680 you're a master chef, it must have been the right 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:07.160 level of something because you work quieter in some ways 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.240 throughout the show, but you resonated harder and faster than 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.360 a lot of the other people. So while you're so 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.960 conscious on being authentic, it's interesting that's what people saw. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.520 People saw you for being a very real person amongst 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.319 some bigger personalities. Some of those other personalities came across 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.320 a little bit more polarizing. Well, you're a woman on 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.720 a show trying to do your best, and that's what 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:31.560 people brought into. 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:34.000 Yeah, I'm really glad it came up that way. 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.400 These topics are very definitely, very interesting to talk about 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.280 because it's not like I didn't realize the kind of archetype. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.160 I was feeling it when I go on something like 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.160 this with ethnicity, race, gender, all those things, and I 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.240 guess I just wanted to do it right and also 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:52.720 just wanted to pay respects to everyone else in the 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:54.640 room as well, with all things considered. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:56.800 Yeah, yeah, you can't help it be like that. 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.600 You know, you sometimes feel like when you go on 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:02.920 televis it can come across like you're trying to say 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.880 to your minority. I guess that you're being the spokesperson 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.000 for it, or maybe you then start to feel the 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.800 pressure of feeling like you must represent them and you 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.439 have a duty of care, where actually, maybe it's none 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.560 of those things. Maybe you're just wanting an adventure and 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.800 we take away all of those minorities that you would 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.320 have been representing and just be you because that's all 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.240 I saw from you, just you for who you are. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.280 That's so that's so incredible to here, that's a very 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:33.040 refreshing here. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:34.200 It's a funny. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.240 I have a funny reflection on this topic where I 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.000 was speaking to a friend about, you know, some specific 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.320 cooks on the show, and they were like, you know, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.760 what's interesting to me is that your best cook was 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:49.960 one much later on in the competition, where you were 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:54.960 cooking a dish that was derived both from your upbringing 0:10:55.120 --> 0:11:00.160 in Cantonese culture, but also having experienced so much of 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:05.520 Australian food that you could tell that you didn't have this, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.559 you know, surprised giddiness about you. When you were listening 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.199 to the feedback, you were just relieved. My friend had 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.600 told me that, and I was just like, you know what, Yeah, 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.719 I had spent especially of course during the throes of 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:20.439 Hong Kong Week, I had so much pressure on my 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.360 shoulders because I felt like I was representing something much. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.199 Greater, which I undoubtedly was. 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.800 But my best work came to me when I was 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:32.880 reminded that, you know, I'm not just what I represent 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.360 and what people see. It's also just what I choose 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.040 to be and what I choose to do. And what 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.040 is universal here is that I think I want to 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.440 call it a youthful curiosity in it and a devotion 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:47.200 to being creative and having fun. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:48.160 Sometimes. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.520 I remember thinking after doing Big Brother, I was like, 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.559 oh my god, I felt like I had to represent 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.160 the queer culture. I was like, I'm a queer person. 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.559 I'm the first gay person in Australia when a reality 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.880 show and now I have to represent and then I 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.480 would I actually got a job doing a podcast working 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.800 at a queer radio station, funnily enough, and I was 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.280 go out of my depth and it felt as though 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.960 so out of Yeah, it's so bizarre because then I 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.880 felt like I'm a Chinese person without knowing how to 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:16.720 speak Chinese. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.240 I get that feeling a lot sometimes. 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.480 And I'm like, who am I? 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.440 And I then realized that it's me that's putting the 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.360 pressure on myself to represent this community, it's not them 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.920 putting the pressure on me, you know. And just doing 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.200 the job and just getting up there and asking the 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:34.240 questions and sometimes not always knowing the answer turned out 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:37.240 to be my escape back of that pressure. It's a 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:38.960 hard one. And you know what's also funny about doing 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.960 a podcast about yourself is you never get. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:43.440 To talk like this, do you know what I mean? 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.599 In society we've been told we can't be so self referential, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:50.480 we can't be so reflective, we're told not to do that, 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.160 where today it's like, you know, we could take the 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:54.840 hat off and do that, you know, and do that 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.920 and it's kind of nice. It's kind of refreshing. 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.959 It is very refreshing. But I'll tell you a funny story. 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.560 The first kind of date I went on post show. 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:06.800 The first bit of feedback. 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.560 I got on that date was I was talking too much. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:12.839 About my No, did the guy say that to you? 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.680 I did ask the feedback because I was like, oh, 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.439 you know what, I haven't been very social for the 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:19.280 last few months. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:22.320 Dude to this really big thing that I'm doing. How 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:22.880 did I do? 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:25.720 And then he was just like, you're great, except I've 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.880 just noticed that you're talking a lot about yourself. 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.720 And then I was just like, oh, that's my problem. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.040 We as humans, we are so curious about ourselves, and 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.120 you know, we want to know why we do the 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.600 things that we do. And I think there was nothing 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.040 wrong with I mean, there's a difference between being an 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.560 arcissist and being just cautious and curious about yourself wanting 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.120 to find out more, do you know what I mean? 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.680 Some really strong differences. But maybe if that man thought 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.400 that maybe it's the wrong match. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.720 Maybe I am a teacher at the end of the day, 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:58.560 and so I have all the hours in the day 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:02.440 to talk about myself, and I have people listening clostantly yeah. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.560 Getting back into Mastershift, though, I really want to ask 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.760 you just a couple of questions. We're so lucky to 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.720 be talking today. There has been an elimination since we 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.559 last spoke, so now we have ourselves at top three. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:13.360 I want to know. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.960 Who is your pick to win out of who we 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:17.520 now know is in the top three. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.360 I mean, it'd be pretty awesome to see Pezzle win it. 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.960 He has worked so hard, to be honest, I've worked 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.840 with him on a lot of the service challenges, and 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:30.360 I feel like people underestimate his attitude and his positivity 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.680 around food and around leading people and so much of 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:38.040 working purposes about that, and yeah, just for the everyday man, 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:38.840 I'm kind of. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:42.000 Keen to see him lift up the trophy if possible. 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.440 I kind of have changed my mind a few times. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.760 I was really gunning for this Harry win and now 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.240 that Harry's out of the competition. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:50.280 It's interesting with. 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:52.560 Reality TV how you can pull a piece of the 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.840 puzzle at and it makes you see things differently. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:56.600 And I also think. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.480 That there's a bit of a wave of thought that 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.000 seems to be happening about Pezza that people are saying 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.920 he doesn't deserve to win for whatever reason. I don't 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.160 even want to go delve into it. But the more 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:09.920 that I read that, the more that I now want 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:10.480 him to win. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.440 Yeah, it's in our rebellion in us. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.680 Yeah, like I think he deserves it. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.320 Now I'm thinking, had you asked me that question while 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.240 Harry was still in the competition, I would have said, no, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.040 Pezzes next to go. Where Now I see the three 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:26.760 and I'm like, I should be going for Nat in 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.160 my order. I know I really would be, But now 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:30.920 I'm starting to think if Pesza wins, I'm going to 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:31.600 be the happiest. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.200 Well, now I have to about the show as if viewer, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.040 and I think as a viewer, everyone has a soft 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.040 spot for Nat, but pezz is your secret underdog and 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.200 sometimes you just have that really closeted feeling of wanting 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.240 him to win. But I will say this, it's Master 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.840 Chef season sixteen, and I think there's a lot of, 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:50.360 you know, props to them. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.880 There's a lot of expectation there in terms of the 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.760 types of food we see. 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.400 And I don't think it accounts. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.320 I don't think the day to day viewer textingoul account 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.480 the transition food in the progression of food in the 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.640 food industry that you know, it doesn't it's not necessarily 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:11.480 the modern nouvel fine dining esque food that climbs to 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.360 the top. So for that reason and for what Pezzi 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.800 represents in his food, I also think it pretty incredible 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.920 if he does win to represent that part of the 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.040 food industry that you know, as a as an ethnic 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.200 cook and as a very casual cultural cook, a lot 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.760 of the times, that's incredible. 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:29.400 I agree. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.320 Yeah, I think the sweet spot for me with this 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.880 show is I like to see home cooks. There was 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.560 a couple of seasons where you started to showcasing people 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.240 who could do extraordinary things that we couldn't make at home, 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.200 and then it kind of lost me for a little bit. 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.880 And then what I do enjoy is everyday Australians being 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.240 on this show that are at that middle ground, you know, 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.600 that we actually feel like is just that level above 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:55.640 us as cooks ourselves at home, that we can strive 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.440 and try to be, you know, and want to be, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.000 you know, and that it's achievable. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:16:59.360 You know. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:04.480 Oh my god, I just just on the word achievable. 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.960 So much of this, so much of watching the show 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.080 and then being in the show is just thinking that 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.600 none of this is achievable in the times, in the 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.359 time span and at home. Let me tell you that 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.320 the thing is, when you put your mind to it, 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:18.560 you can do it. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:19.200 Now. 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.399 It's just seventy five minutes feels incredibly long. 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.080 Now, so before you go as well, something that we 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.000 did the other day that was really good was that 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.560 instead of prioritizing who your favorite judge was, you gave 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.800 me a little bit of a summary about why you 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:38.240 enjoyed working alongside these judges. Can we talk about them? 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.359 I love all of them equally, So to me, Poe 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.400 was definitely the most relatable because she had done it. 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.639 Also just culturally and her demeanor she's just super klined 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.000 and gentle, was very very made us all feel very 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.399 safe and secure. So that's incredible. And then you just have, 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.520 you know, a beautiful face like Sophia standing up front 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.960 with her eloquence in terms of talking about food, but 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.919 also her understanding of the way food works intertwined with 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.879 different things, and that also, you know, we learn a 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.960 lot from her about her understanding of food and her 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:18.840 traveling and just applying things that happen in the kitchen in. 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.600 The real world. She did that really well. Jean Christoph. 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:23.640 We all kind of. 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:27.720 Expected him to be this very stern, militant French cook, 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:34.240 but he completely usurped our expectations by being this extremely romantic, lovable, 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:38.359 passionate human being that kind of just evoked the same 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.640 thing in all of us. He almost gave us something 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.919 all to aspire to and talk about, and that was 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:49.080