1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: I was listening to question time yesterday as I do 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: when Parliament sits like I say, I do that so 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: you guys don't have to. And the Minister for Education 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: evil Or of yesterday confirmed in Parliament during question time 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: that a new offer has been put on the table 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: for Northern Territory teachers. Now, this offer would see a 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: three percent pay increase is my understanding, for the next 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: three years and back pay to October twenty twenty one. 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: So the way that the Education Minister had worded it 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: on during question time yesterday is that it was a 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: three plus three plus three. So I'm keen to find 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: out exactly what this means and whether the Northern Territories 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: teachers are going to accept this offer. So again my 14 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: understanding is that that information is going to be sent 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: out to teachers today so that they've got a better 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: understanding of what the government is putting on the table 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: at this point in time, including that back pay, and 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: then whether the teachers move forward and decide to accept 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: that pay increase or whether they continue to sort of 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: to dig their heels in and try to seek a 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: better offer. But however you look at it, you would 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: have to suspect that they're keen to try and work 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: something out as the year draws to a close. There 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: is literally two weeks left of school. In some cases, 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: it's only a week left of school for some kids, 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: and we all want to know what the situation is 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: going to be from next year and whether the teachers 28 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: are going to be returning to school from next year. 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: So joining me on the line right now to tell 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: us a little bit more about this offer is the 31 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: Education Unions Michelle Airs. Good morning to you. 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie. 33 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: Michelle, thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: I was just saying that I was listening to question 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: time yesterday and heard the Minister for Education confirm during 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Parliamentary question time that a new offer has been put 37 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: on the table for Northern Territory teachers. Michelle, what exactly 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: is this offer? 39 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So what we're looking at is a three year 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: offer that includes three percent per annum's salary increases. So 41 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: the teachers at this point are over eighteen months or 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: by the time this would be three of the eighteen 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: months overdue for a salary increase. The last time they 44 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: had a salary increase was in twenty twenty. Due to 45 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: the way free policy that we have, thank goodness, managed 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: to convince the government to do away with. So there 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: will be three years of three percent increases backdated to 48 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, which would include a three percent increase 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: for October of twenty or any case yet after October 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty one, and a three percent increase after 51 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: October of twenty twenty two, which had been an immediate 52 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: six percent jump in salaries for NT teachers, including full 53 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: back pay. 54 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: Michelle, has this offer gone out to teachers or is 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: it when is it due to go out? 56 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: It went out today, so it's been out in an 57 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: access period for the last week from the OCPE, and 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: it is the important thing to note is that this 59 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: isn't necessarily something that our union is endorsing. We have 60 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: worked with the government on it and we have tried 61 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: to put or tried to get as much in there 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: as possible for our teachers. We would have liked to 63 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: see more. We have a lot of hard working, burnt 64 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: out teachers in the Northern Territory and we would have 65 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: either liked to see more in salary, perhaps the cost 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: of living bonus or some relief of pressure on workloads. However, 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: that being said, we understand our contingent of teachers as well, 68 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: who would just like to you know, get on with teaching, 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: receive their back pay, and move into twenty twenty three 70 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: with a fresh start. So what we are, what we're 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: saying as a union is that we would like out 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: teachers to have the opportunity to you know, have their 73 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: voice in this. Rather than are taking a stance and 74 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: telling them how to vote, we would like them to 75 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: vote their conscience on this life. I definitely understand both physicians. Personally, 76 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: I would ye like to see more for our hard 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: working teachers, but I understand for sure the people who 78 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: are like I'm just ready to move on from their 79 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: whole thing, well. 80 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: And I reckon this is the right approach. I think, 81 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, let teachers decide, and like you said, there 82 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: may be some who go, do you know what, this 83 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: is good? I'm ready to move forward with this and 84 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm happy with this offer. Michelle, you said that it 85 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: is going out today. How soon will we know whether 86 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: teachers accept this offer or not? 87 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: Yees? So it's due to calling on the twelfth of December, 88 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: so it really we've been cutting it fine. With the 89 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: end of the term. There but week ten for anyone 90 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: who's not a parent or a teacher who counts weeks, 91 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: and yeah, that when pretty soon after that closes, will 92 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 2: have the data from the OCPE on where that's standing. 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 1: That is certainly cutting it very fine. When it comes 94 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: to the end of the year, Michelle, what's going to happen? 95 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: You know, I if this can't sort of be firmed 96 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: up by the year's end, and what do you think 97 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: this deal says as we head into next year? Oh? 98 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: Well, that's anyone's best guest, Katie. Mine would be that 99 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: we are going to be in trouble in education next year. 100 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: We already are when it comes down to it. If 101 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: we want to look at why it's taken this long. 102 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: Why did it take until, you know, the middle of 103 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: October almost to lose the wage freeze and for us 104 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: to go back to negotiating for this agreement. The government 105 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: had dragged their feet time and again. I would have 106 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: really liked the AU to be able to come out 107 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: and strongly support and get our members on board rather 108 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: than having to ask them, you know, to vote. But 109 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: when it came down to the request we're putting forward, 110 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: the government just seemed and I under they're short on money. 111 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: I understand the physical problem. However, I'm here to fight 112 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: for my teachers and what they deserve. And yeah, I 113 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: would have really liked to be proactively supporting this, but 114 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it comes down to 115 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: the government and their stance. And yeah, I'd really just 116 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: like to see more for our teachers. 117 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: Well, Michelle, we're very keen to hear exactly how teachers vote. 118 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: Please keep us up to date, and thanks so much 119 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: for letting us know the ins and outs of that 120 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: later steal. 121 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 2: Thank you, Kate, thank you