1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: That is so fat Thank you. Now, I have just 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: been laying the law down to Sophie and Amy because 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: we have a professional business meeting tomorrow with each other. 9 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: I have told them you need to be there early, 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,319 Speaker 1: you need to not say anything embarrassing about me. Well, 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: this is with your current workplace. So Amy and I 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: we obviously run our PR company, Hular Media and content 13 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: creation company, So we are meeting with your boss tomorrow 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: to discuss doing some videos for your workplace, which is 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: going to be hilarious. Yes, I did put in a 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: very good word for Amy and Sophie. They do create 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: amazing videos, so I'm very confident that your work will 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: impress them. I feel like I deserve some kind of 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: finder fee for this word, maybe like a ten percent 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: cut on the video. Well, we have been working for 21 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: three years, so we have developed enough of a show 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: or I think to impress your boss anyway, So I 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: don't think there's a finder fee that we're gonna be paying. 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: Do you know what, Kate, You're gonna find that people 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: are gonna lose their shit when we come into the office, 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: because I found that when we were at seven. It 27 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 1: was just so finite and when you came in, everyone 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, there really are three of them. Yeah, 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: I have been preparing myself for that. I am looking 30 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: forward to our little sneaky lunch afterwards. Well, I'm just 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: already mentally preparing myself to be on time for this 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: meeting because I was thrown on Friday. We had a 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: really important meeting and as I was getting ready in 34 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: the morning, I placed my brand new Mac foundation on 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: the table. Anyway, I took out a few bottles to 36 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: the bin. I hurt this smash. I raced back inside 37 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: and my dog Archie has somehow smashed the bottle. He 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: was covered in foundation. Luckily, he was somewhat the same 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: color as it, so it wasn't too difficult to get out. 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: But I happened to be on the phone with you, 41 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Sophie when this occurred, and it was oh my God, 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: it was hilarious. She was going off her tree and 43 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: I said, just so if you have to get a 44 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: video of this so you can share it on Archie's 45 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Instagram account. And it was so funny. She snaptatted me 46 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: and there was just this trail of makeup that just 47 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: led to Archie. I hope this like is okay to 48 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: be tested on animals, Like I mean, I'm not into 49 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: testing on animals, but hopefully it's not toxic for Arche. Well, 50 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: the worst thing is I'm rushing to this meeting and 51 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: then I had to factor in giving him a bath 52 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,119 Speaker 1: and cleaning this monstrosity up. Look, I've got to say 53 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: I have not given you a fake time for this meeting. 54 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes with our family, so our dad's family his side 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: run very much on time, whereas Mom's side do not, 56 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: and we've unfortunately got that gene. So sometimes fake times 57 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: will be given. I couldn't give you a fake time 58 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: because I had to will be there. I would love 59 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: to hear from our Facebook community, what are weird things 60 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: that have made you late for a meeting or from 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: being on time for work? Because I do not think 62 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: it would be acceptable to rock up to Kate's workplace 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: and say, oh, I'm sorry, I'm late because my dog 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: is covered in my makeup. No, I've got to add one. 65 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: My rabbits keep escaping every time I've got a meeting. 66 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: This is for everything. This is an ongoing excuse for Amy. 67 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: I've got to say, though, when you went to Europe 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: and I had to look after the mum and dad's rabbits, 69 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: they did burrow out sie the house. I'm not lying, 70 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:16,559 Speaker 1: I'm seriously truthful. Well that night you're above everyone. You do, 71 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: you grounds on your high homes. No what I'm used 72 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: to don't even fucking know me. I don't want you 73 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: crack on with your thing, and you and your fucking 74 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: fringe can fuck off. He's actually vile. UK based influencer 75 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: Danny Mansuiti has slammed the Australian government for not allowing 76 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: her to return home. The English born YouTuber, who has 77 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: dual citizenship, said she spent fifteen thousand dollars on flights home, 78 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: which has left her with no savings. The og influencer's 79 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: outburst has sparked backlash from followers, who say Danny is 80 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: only trying to flee lock down. Before we get into it, Kate, 81 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: can you tell us who Danny Mansuiti is. Well, Danny 82 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: is an og Australian influencer. But as you touched upon, 83 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: she was actually born in England. So Danny came across 84 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: to Australia when she was twelve and she made the 85 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: move back home about four years ago. Now, So Danny 86 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: made it big on Tumblr and then moved across to 87 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: YouTube in twenty fourteen, and she posted a lot of 88 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: makeup tutorials and travel vlogs and now she's been moving 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: into the space of mental health advocacy. And is it 90 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: just me or is it that she only shows the 91 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: left side of her face? Yeah, she gets a lot 92 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: of trolling around the fact that she only shows one 93 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: side of her face, which we pay Sophie out a 94 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: lot for doing in photos. But over her time on YouTube, 95 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: she's actually amassed one point six million followers and currently 96 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: has four hundred and thirty five thousand followers on Instagram. 97 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: So she's a very big influencer. I would compare her 98 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: to someone like Shannie Grimmond. Well, like every big influencer, 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: she's also got her own eyelash line. Yeah, it's quite 100 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: funny because there's been a lot of comparisons between Danny 101 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: and a lot of the OG influencers, as I said, 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: like Shanny and shanex so. So she did bring out 103 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: her own eyelash range, but there's been a bit of 104 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: controversy that she stole the idea of other influencers. But 105 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: we'll be getting into Danny's controversy a little bit. But Sophie, 106 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: can you give us some background information to about how 107 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: this drama started with Danny wanting to come back to Australia. 108 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: Well in November, Danny started to speak about how Lockdown 109 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: had made her really reflect on her life and she 110 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: started looking into whether it was realistic to visit Australia, 111 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: in particular Melbourne, which was her hometown. And she explained 112 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: that because she has Jewel Australian and English passport, she's 113 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: lucky enough that she can travel to either country without 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: too much difficulty or getting visas well. As you said, Sophie, 115 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: half her family are in Melbourne and the other half 116 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: are in England. So Danny caused a lot of controversy 117 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: when she spoke about how she wants to go home 118 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: to England and that's where she feels most at home. 119 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: I feel like she pissed off a lot of Australians 120 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: by saying that, and now the fact that she suddenly 121 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: wants to go home to Australia. Well, when she moved 122 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: to London in twenty seventeen, she actually vowed to never 123 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: live in Australia again. And back in November when we 124 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: first started hearing her speak about going to Australia, she 125 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: said that even though her family lived in Melbourne, she 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: didn't particularly want a holiday there because she hates Melbourne. 127 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: She said she gets peace because there are so many 128 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: scary people there and she feels the bulling is out 129 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: of control. I do wonder if this has got anything 130 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: to do with the beef that she's got with other 131 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: Australian influences. Well, in this vlog, she actually spoke about 132 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: how she had cut so many people off when she 133 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: moved to London, including Australian influences, and she really used 134 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: this log to apologize to people that she had wrong. 135 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: She said, if anyone is watching this who I have 136 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: been rude to, I'm deeply sorry. It seems like she 137 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: is trying to actively become friends with these people again. 138 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: People have seen her commenting on Chinie Grimman's post, it 139 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: seems like she's kind of prepping for her return in Australia. Yeah, 140 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: how awkward would that be rocking up to one of 141 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: the influencer events and there's all these people that hate 142 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: you there. That wouldn't be grace. Well, I did read 143 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: that she has followed a lot of Australia's OG influences, 144 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: but they haven't followed her back, so that's a little 145 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: bit awkward at her now. Just to reiterate though about 146 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: this log back in November, I think it was highly 147 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: arrogant to assume that she could just pick and choose 148 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: to come and holiday in Australia when obviously the UK 149 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: is in a huge lockdown at this stage. Obviously in 150 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: November people were in different tear situations and they were 151 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: still allowed to travel. But was anyone actually saying that 152 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: they were holidaying in Austria exactly? And that's what seems 153 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: so tone deaf about it. She just seemed to think 154 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: that because she has a visa, she could just pick 155 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: and choose when she comes over to Australia. Well, on 156 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: the topic of tone deaf, Danny is no stranger to 157 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: traveling during the pandemic. She traveled to Greece in August 158 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: for two weeks. She then went on another trip to 159 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Dubai in October for another two weeks. So she seems 160 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: to be freely traveling around when Australians haven't been able 161 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: to go abroad for over a year. Now, well we 162 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: should probably get into the latest controversy, and this happened 163 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: mid January. Danny posted an IGTV video entitled let Us 164 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: Come Home Now. In this video, she explained that she 165 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: had been interviewed by Channel nine News in Australia about 166 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: the fact that Australians as stranded in the UK. Now. 167 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: This came off the back of Emirates canceling all flights, 168 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: including hers home. She explained that she had spent twelve 169 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: thousand dollars on a floor and three seven hundred dollars 170 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: which is required when you do enter a quarantine hotel. 171 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Now she said that her savings are all gone now 172 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: because of this. Can I interject I find that really 173 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: hard to believe. Danny is currently living in Chelsea, which 174 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: is a very affluent area in England. She obviously gets 175 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: paid a lot of money by advertisers. I understand when 176 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: the lockdown first happened in March twenty twenty, that there 177 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: was a lot of fears that people wouldn't be that 178 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: influencers wouldn't be getting paid. However, we've seen by a 179 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: lot of Love Ireland stars like Olivia Attwood that she 180 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: can get paid by doing posts at home. Yeah, that's 181 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: so true. Kate, Now getting back into what she said. 182 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: She started the video by praising Australia's low numbers and 183 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: the way that we had tackled the pandemic. But then 184 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: she kind of acted that by saying she's outraged that 185 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: we are now refusing to let thirty seven thousand Australians 186 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: living in the UK back in. Now, she explained that 187 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: her flight has been canceled indefinitely and she doesn't know 188 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: when she'll be able to see her family, who she 189 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: claims she hasn't seen for two years now. Eagle eyed 190 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: fans have shot down these claims. She had a video 191 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: up in twenty nineteen over Christmas where she saw her family, 192 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to say that a year isn't 193 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: a long time not to see your family, but she 194 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: is trying to refer that it is longer than it 195 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: actually is. Does anyone find it strange that nine News 196 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: would seek her out to speak as talent. I mean, 197 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: I would have thought it'd be pretty hard to get 198 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: on to her in terms of even just sending her 199 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: a DM. I found the coverage quite strange because when 200 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: I googled Danny's name, it came up with news articles, 201 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: but it didn't reference exactly who she was and her 202 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: as an influence, so it was just talking about you know, 203 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: this Australian English Juell citizen is stuck in the UK. 204 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: Well what made me really angry, just from the perspective 205 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: of an Australian citizen, is how she was calling out 206 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: the government for turning their backs on our citizens and 207 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: basically calling their actions inhumane and saying that they are 208 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: not allowing them to have basic human rights. I'm sorry, 209 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: but we have allowed so many people into Australia. There 210 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: has been a number almost a year now where people 211 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: can return home and at the end of the day, 212 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: we do need to think about our safety as a 213 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: country as well. We are slowly allowing people in but 214 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: in a safe way. And the reason why a number 215 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: of these flights were canceled was due to the fact 216 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: there were outbreaks in some of the medi hotels, and 217 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: there was a lot of concern Amongst Australians that these 218 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: might continue to happen and the virus might leak out 219 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: into the community and we might all have to go 220 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: through what Melbourne went through, particularly when the UK strain 221 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: has been shown to be more contagious and dangerous than 222 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: the strains we are experiencing here at the moment. I've 223 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: got to say it pisses me off. As soon as 224 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: the UK goes into the harshest lockdown it's ever experienced, 225 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: suddenly everyone wants to come home. Of course, that's obviously 226 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: I would want to come home, but you've had a 227 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: year to come home. Well. The thing that irritated me 228 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: more is she was talking about the hypocrisy of the 229 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: Australian government allowing one two hundred tennis players, officials and 230 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: their families into the country for the Australian Open, and 231 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: she said that it seems like there's one rule for 232 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: one per and one rule for the other. I'm sorry, 233 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: but the whole system is based on affluence. She herself 234 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: is a privileged white influencer who is throwing tens of 235 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars aut returning home. You know, she can't 236 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: then say, oh, they're favoring these tennis players. I'm sorry, 237 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: you are in a position of power here as well. Oh, 238 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: it's very hypocritical that not at any stage has she 239 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: acknowledged her privilege. And it annoyed me that she was 240 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: pretending that she's, you know, being a voice for everyone else. No, 241 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: you've cracked the shits because you can't come home, and 242 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: you're now using it as an excuse that you're trying 243 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: to highlight the voices of others. Well, she said that 244 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: she now has to return home because of a personal 245 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: health issue, which is why it is now so urgent, 246 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: But she hasn't actually gone into what that health issue is. Look, 247 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: I've got to understand. I think when you're an influencer, 248 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people think that they have the right 249 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: to know everything. And I do sympathize if she does 250 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: have this personal health issue, but a lot of people 251 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: tend to think that it may be something to do 252 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: with the breast implants that she got in late December. 253 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: Then this is another reason why I find it strange 254 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: that she's suddenly crying poor because she has enough money 255 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: to get breast implants done During a global pandemic. Well, 256 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: it is very troubling that she would get breast implants 257 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: during a pandemic, especially when the country, as we've touched upon, 258 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: is in the harshest lockdown it has ever been. The 259 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: fact that she's chosen to have elective surgery and is 260 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: taking the bed of potential COVID patients is actually appalling. Well, 261 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: what's disgusting though, is that she's claiming that she wants 262 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: to go back to Australia, but she's scheduled in a 263 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: breast augmentation. Yeah, when did she think she could Did 264 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: you think she could fly? Exactly? It was actually quite 265 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: scary because over the last couple of days Danny has 266 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: had to go into emergency surgery to fix some issues 267 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: with the breast implants. A lot of followers are saying 268 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: that she didn't do the proper after care treatment, and 269 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: after looking at a YouTube channel, it does appear that 270 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: she was moving around a lot, she wasn't resting. She 271 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: even filmed a fashion hale showing off her new boobs 272 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: a couple of days after she got them. Is it 273 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: true that she's got body dysmorphia? Because I've heard that 274 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: bandied around a bit yeah. So, a couple of months ago, 275 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: Danny posted quite a sad video talking about her issues 276 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: with body dysmorphia. And I found it quite troubling. Firstly 277 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: that she has this platform and she is suffering from 278 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: such a debilitating mental illness because she is super slim. 279 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: She was showing off to the camera, how oh you 280 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: know that feeling when you're all sort of you're sucking 281 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: and you're all toned up the top, and then she'd 282 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: rolled down her exercise pants and she goes, oh, but 283 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: then you know, this is what's really happening, and she 284 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: literally had the flatter stomach. She then punished herself going 285 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: on a run and spoke about how she's been letting 286 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: herself go and I so and eating all this stuff. 287 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: And I just found it really worrying that this. I mean, 288 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: I do feel sorry for her. This poor girl is 289 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: suffering from such a debilitating mental illness. But then you're 290 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: putting out this content for other people that may also 291 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: be struggling and be copying you. That's the hard that's 292 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: the hard thing. Well though, because you know, we all 293 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: find ourselves getting really angry at her, and she, you know, 294 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: seems to be being so hypocritical online, but it also 295 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: seems there must be something going wrong with her mental health. So, 296 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: as you said, I do somewhat feel a little bit 297 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: sorry for her, but also infuriated by her actions. Well, 298 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: only yesterday she posted a very sad video to her 299 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: Instagram story, which since has been deleted. Now we're just 300 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: going to play a snippet of the. 301 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: Video, just being fucking hitting the face over and over 302 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: again by life a minute. And I've been trying to 303 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: get back home to be with my family for so 304 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: long long because I'm not coping well. I've got these 305 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: health issues. I just had a surgery a few fucking 306 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: days ago. I spent fifteen thousand dollars on a flight 307 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 2: to get home. 308 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: I just sed to go on like everything I can 309 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: then and just come. 310 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: I personally found this video very troubling. It's quite clear 311 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: she's suffering from very severe mental health, which may be 312 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: a reason why she is trying to return home. But 313 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm so torn because there's so much 314 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: hypocrisy and controversies that have surrounded Danny in her career. 315 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: Soph did you want to get us started on probably 316 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: what people are referring to as puggate. Yeah, well, this 317 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: one's rather disturbing. She was accused of mistreating her pug 318 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: Beans in a video. The dog was kept in a 319 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: dark room with poo all over the walls for ten hours. 320 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: She's also been called very selfish for getting a dog. 321 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: Because she was previously a travel blogger, she was away 322 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: a lot, so yeah, that's kind of what puggate is 323 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: all about. I think Puggate became so big because Jeffrey 324 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: Star got involved. So in twenty eighteen, Danny and Jeffrey 325 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: had this massive blow up on Twitter where the pair 326 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: exchanged rather rude tweets to each other, which now have 327 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: been deleted. In a tweet, Jeffrey Star said to Danny, 328 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: you abused your dog and are a piece of shit. 329 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Anything you say is automatically invalid. Danny did put out 330 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: an apology video and tried to sort of justify her actions, 331 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: and she explained that it's been really horrible being having 332 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: this card of being an animal abuser or to add 333 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: to the list. She's also been accused of cultural appropriation 334 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: and blackfishing. Also, at the start of the pandemic, she 335 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: was called out for very tone deaf behavior. Now Danny 336 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: believed she had the symptoms of COVID. She went to 337 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: a testing site and was told that she didn't fit 338 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: the key demographic to get a test. Now, despite thinking 339 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: that she had COVID, she decided to go shopping all 340 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: around her neighborhood and posted this on Instagram. Yeah, it's 341 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: just such hypocritical and really tone deaf behavior. As you said, 342 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: I found it really interesting because I was watching one 343 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: of her recent vlogs and she went on this rant 344 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: about how reality TV stars didn't deserve the title of 345 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: an influencer. And I found this particularly interesting because a 346 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: couple of months ago she started vlogging with Michael Griffiths, 347 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: who is one of the villains from UK Love Island Naked. 348 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: That's freaky. Yeah, so yeah, if anyone remembers he broke 349 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Amber Gill's heart on Love Island when he hooked up 350 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: who did he hook up with? Again? Oh, I can't remember. 351 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: It was one of the intruders. Yeah, yeah, a blonde intruder. Yeah. Anyway, 352 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: it's going to annoy me anyway, So it's quite interesting 353 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: that she was deciding to call that reality TV stars. 354 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: We'll put a little bit of her rant in. 355 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: I just don't understand how tone deaf some influencers are. 356 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 3: And I also hate the word influencer because for me, 357 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: I look at the world as a whole and I 358 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: just find it tone deaf, like some of the content 359 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: that I'm seeing or some of the stuff that I'm seeing, 360 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 3: it just is like h. I strongly feel like people 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: confuse reality TV stars and attractive people slash models as influencers. 362 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: An influencer, to me is not someone that has been 363 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 3: on a TV show and then is promoting like. 364 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 4: Te's and Waiste Trainers weight loss shakes. To me, that's 365 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: not influencing me. That's I just wish there was more 366 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: of a definition of like that's a TV personality, that's 367 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 4: a TV star, and an influencer should only be used 368 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: and categorized to people who truly use their platform to influence. 369 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: I found her conversation regarding the definition of influencers very interesting. Firstly, 370 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: it seems pretty hypocritical that she's saying because she's some 371 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: og influencer that she deserves a certain amount of respect, 372 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: particularly when she has been involved in so many controversies. 373 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: She's now calling out reality TV stars like Love Island 374 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: stars for going to Dubai when she was in Dubai 375 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: and November, It's like she's shitty that she missed the 376 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: boat and couldn't get to Dubai during this lockdown. I 377 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: can see where she's coming from in terms of I 378 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: feel like the term influencer is now a kind of 379 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: offensive term. Well, yeah, as she said, it's got a 380 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: lot of negative connotations attached to it. But at the 381 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, she is someone that has added 382 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: to that negativity. Yeah, for sure, I reckon she's saying 383 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: it because she's probably shitty at Michael from Love Island. Well, 384 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: I feel like she's annoyed because she obviously made it 385 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: big when the market for influencers wasn't that saturated, Like 386 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: it's very oversaturated now and she's having to compete against 387 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: people that have made their following overnight, where she has 388 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: been working for seven years. However, I've got to say 389 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: it kind of seemed easier back in the day to 390 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: get a following, Like you really didn't have to do 391 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: much looking at her videos. She was just an attractive 392 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: teenager that used to put makeup on. Well, the thing is, 393 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: I suppose the argument to that is it is so 394 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: easy to become an influencer now in terms of you 395 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: appear on Love Island and you've automatically got a million followers. Yeah, 396 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: And I think that now she's having to compete with 397 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: those people, And I feel like this, you know, twenty 398 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: twenty and going into twenty twenty one has been a 399 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: really hard year for influencers. People are now not only 400 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: do people have the time to sort of monitor them 401 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: and look into their behavior, but it's sort of that 402 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: gap between normal people and influencers is really huge. The 403 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: fact that these influencers can afford to go to Dubai 404 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: and they sort of are using all these loopholes and 405 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: that they are, you know, doing their lockdown in a 406 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: mansion as opposed to doing it tough. Well, has she 407 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: seen any repercussions for her latest outbursts on Instagram on 408 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: social Blade, Well, very interestingly, she has lost four two 409 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: hundred followers over the last thirty days. But I dug 410 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: a little bit deeper into her profile and since November 411 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, she has lost forty eight thousand followers on Instagram, 412 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: So to put that into perspective, she has four hundred 413 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: and thirty five thousand followers at the moment on Instagram. 414 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: So since November she has only been losing followers she has. 415 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously she may have gained a few, but 416 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: the amount of followers she's losing have canceled those all out. 417 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: I find that super interesting. I feel like, is this 418 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: when we're gonna as I touched upon, this has been 419 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: a really hard couple of years for influencers. Is this 420 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: the decline? Is this the end of these type of influences. 421 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: I've also noticed that she has a huge number of 422 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: subscribers on her YouTube accounts, so over a million, yet 423 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: she's only been getting around twenty thousand views on all 424 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: of her videos, which just doesn't add up. Well, I'm 425 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: sorry to answer your question, Kate, my heart does not 426 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: bleed for these people at all. I think that there 427 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: needed to be a takedown of some of these people 428 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: because they just think that they're untouchable. They think that 429 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: they can do whatever they like and there's no repercussions 430 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: for their actions. I'm glad that as a society we're 431 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: saying enough is enough, and we're actually expecting influencers to 432 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: be good influencers and actually have something going on in 433 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: their lives other than you know, obsessing over themselves. Look, 434 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more and I actually think for Danny's 435 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: mental health that she should be taking a break from 436 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: social media. 437 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: I mean, I just can't believe you'll value that tight ass, 438 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 4: hyper tungued, thin lips talking hypodermic over our friendship. 439 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: Darling. No, but I don't. 440 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: It's just that she's got me in this moral dilemma. Pats, 441 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: you have no morals. 442 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: Let's get into the influencer wraps. So can you start 443 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: us off with Sky Wheatley's latest controversy. Well, on Friday, 444 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley finally released the gender of her baby with 445 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: a very elaborate video montage. Well, it wasn't really a 446 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: secret for many people. A lot of people thought she 447 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: was having a boy because she was actually meant to 448 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: announce the gender a couple of months ago, and it 449 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: sort of seemed to drag out, and there was talk 450 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: that Sky really wanted a girl and it was a 451 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: bit disappointed. Yeah, it did seem like she was a 452 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: little bit disappointed, but maybe she's now come around to 453 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: the idea. Now. In the video, we saw Sky, Lockeye 454 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: and Forest lying on a picnic blanket in their property. 455 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: Then this drone flies over the top of them to 456 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: reveal that they're surrounded by blue balloons. Now, as soon 457 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: as this video was posted, fans drew parallel between her 458 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: gender reveal and influencer Desisi Perkins gender announcement video not 459 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: too long ago. I've got to say I don't follow 460 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: Dessi Perkins myself, so I hadn't seen her video, but 461 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: I was actually very impressed by quality. I thought it 462 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: was a really beautiful video. I then saw Daisy's and 463 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, I can very much see these similarities. 464 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: Is it just me or does anyone else have a 465 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: little laugh when they see these professionally filmed videos of 466 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: Sky because you can just tell that Lockie is just 467 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: over and probably doesn't really want to be there. Oh, 468 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: he has very much been cohersed into being in the video. 469 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: I do find it funny as well, because Sky's content 470 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: is very much raw and honest and moment, so it 471 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: is funny. It seems like this sort of fake version 472 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: of Sky that's very much for her Instagram group, and 473 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: they're on an Instagram story. She's just going rogue all 474 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah. Well, what caused a little bit of 475 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: controversy is Celeb's Spellcheck put up a post saying they're 476 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: having twins and shared the videos alongside of each other. 477 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: Now Sky took great offense to this, branding Celebt Spellcheck 478 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: as a bullying platform. This is what she had to 479 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: say about them, and. 480 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 5: Brought my attention that Perkins did the same gender reveal. Like, 481 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 5: from the bottom of my heart, I honestly had no 482 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 5: I did that. She did that. I actually only just 483 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 5: started following her. I think around the time she was 484 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 5: like pregnant or a baby, but I never saw her 485 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 5: gender overle Anyway, I'm going to attach the original inspira 486 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 5: video where I got my inspro from because celeb spell 487 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 5: Check the bullying online bullying is back at it saying 488 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 5: that I've full done like a ripoff of rip off 489 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 5: of Daisy Perkins. 490 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: But to be. 491 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 5: Honest, we all get our inspiration from somewhere. 492 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: Can I just say it was hilarious because I was 493 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: trying to catch up on this drama when I was 494 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: in the car driving with Reese and I had it 495 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: playing out loud, and halfway through he said, look, I'm 496 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: gonna have to get you to turn that off. I 497 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: cannot stand hearing any more. He's like, I don't understand 498 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: why these people take themselves so seriously and care so much. 499 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: He actually had to turn the radio up so he 500 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: couldn't hear it any longer, but you could eat Locky 501 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: in the background of the video too. I think he 502 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: was well and truly overhearing about it. Now. Sky talked 503 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: about the fact that, you know, why do I bother 504 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: doing videos like this? If I'm going to be called out? 505 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: It's like, you do them because you're generating engagement to 506 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: your page and it's your brand. It's also very self 507 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: indulgent to put a video up like and think, oh, 508 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing it for everyone else. I mean, 509 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: people would have been happy if she did something like Scott, 510 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: like Steph class Smith and just you know, had her 511 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: own gender reveal at home, which I think is what 512 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: she did with Forest. Yeah. Well, I did think Sky's 513 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: insta story was quite interesting because it did raise the 514 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: issue of whether celebs spellcheck is a platform for bullying. Now, 515 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: I do not think that it is a platform for bullying. 516 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: I think that the owner has been very ethical in 517 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: the way she has handled the constructive feedback. She now 518 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: moderates all of the comments section because I do think 519 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: the comment section was where a lot of issues were 520 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: arising from. I just don't get it, because how is 521 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: she bulling. She's literally taking a screenshot of what an 522 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: influencer has put on their own profile and pokes a 523 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: little bit of fun at it. It's very tongue in cheek. 524 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: It's all a bit of fun. All she said in 525 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: this particular post was they're having twins. I just don't 526 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: think that they're used to being called out. I think 527 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: they're used to living in this like fantasy land, and 528 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: I feel like it saying can you just let us 529 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: normal folks have something where we can have a little 530 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: bit of a giggle about some of your outrageous antics. Oh, 531 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: I am getting so sick of influences playing this bullying card. 532 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: As you said, it's like no one's allowed to say 533 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: anything about you without saying that people are bullying you. Yeah, 534 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: you put your whole life online and they're happy to 535 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: be paid for I think he reaped the reward. I mean, 536 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but if Sky didn't appear on Big Brother 537 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: and didn't become an influencer, she probably would still be 538 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: working at Zafr's what is it called? Oh, she was 539 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: at a coffee shop, wasn't she. Yeah, that's it's funny. 540 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: They don't actually have it in Adelaide, so I think 541 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: it's something. It's probably like bloody Chibo now, but you know, 542 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: you'd probably be still pouring coffees. You wouldn't be able 543 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: to afford these luxurious houses and cars, So you've kind 544 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: of got to take that. The thing is as well, 545 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: like if she just responded with you know, oh that's funny, 546 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: or didn't take herself so seriously, I think people would 547 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: laugh along with her, as opposed to the people that 548 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: seem to be laughing at her. Yeah, she's now pissed 549 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: off more people by taking herself so bloody seriously, and 550 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of sad because she's taken what should have 551 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: been a positive announcement as a bit of a negative. Well, 552 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: the most interesting thing to come out of the Instagram 553 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: story is she did confirm that she's reached out to Desi, 554 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: and Desi did in fact come up with the gender 555 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: reveal ideas. So, I mean that's all celeb Spellcheck was saying, Yeah, 556 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: we're going to take my hat off to Celeb's Spellcheck. 557 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: On Sunday, she put out a post saying hi everyone. 558 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: As you know, I have started moderating comments on my posts. 559 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: I'd also like to ask that we keep the laughs 560 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: in house. So when somebody features in a post, please 561 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: don't go and DM comment nasty things directly to that person. 562 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: I can only control what is said on this page. However, 563 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to be responsible for someone's comment section 564 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: being flooded with references to something I've posted. Thanks for understanding. 565 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: Let's move on to Sarah's day now. She did a 566 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: Q and A on her Instagram page last week where 567 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: she was asked by followers how often she gets recognized 568 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: by fans now. I found this so interesting. She responded 569 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: by saying, we get noticed around once every thirty minutes 570 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: or so. If we're out at a park and then 571 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: go out for lunch, we usually stop for around five 572 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: photos and wave back to ten to twenty different people 573 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: or groups. I think what makes this so surprising is 574 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: the fact that she lives in Cronulla. It's not like 575 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: she's out in the city in Sydney or Brisbane. Now 576 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: that's pretty big though it is a big town. But 577 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean it would be very interesting to see where 578 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: her demographic comes from because every thirty minutes she goes out, 579 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: she's being stopped. She'd be so noticeable, though, can you imagine, 580 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: I mean, because she hangs out at the Blackwood Pantry. 581 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's where most of her followers see her. Well, 582 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: the funniest thing is that you do watch her youtubes 583 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: and get the vibe that she's just a regular person. 584 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: You know, It's funny that we don't see on her 585 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: YouTube her getting recognized by all of these people, because 586 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: it kind of makes her no longer relatable or the 587 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: girl next door. Yeah, I mean, how many times would 588 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: celebrities get stopped and ask for photos? Because that seems 589 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: like a hell of a lot of times. And I 590 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: wonder if it's because she does seem so approachable that 591 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: people were willing to go up to her. Well, it 592 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: seems like Sarah has been a little bit shy to 593 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: be vlogging in public recently. I wonder if it's got 594 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: anything to do with the fact that so many people 595 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: approach her and she doesn't actually want to be approached, 596 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: or she has become so controversial in recent years. I 597 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: do wonder if it is people starting to recognize her 598 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: that haven't actually followed her before. It does make me think, though, 599 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: considering she is getting a lot of negative attention, if 600 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: all of those people coming up are positive experiences or 601 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: She did talk about how she mentally has to psych 602 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: herself up sometimes to leave the house because it is 603 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: quite overwhelming. It would be really difficult also having a toddler, 604 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: because she spoke about how she gets really nervous that 605 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: Fox is going to have some sort of tantrum in 606 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: front of a group of people. Well, moving on to 607 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: Shane Grimman, and she has announced that she's been involved 608 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: in another special project, but this one was a little 609 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: bit disappointing. Will two Face have released a limited edition 610 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: range of its MISCAA Better than Sex, and they've chosen 611 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: five different beauty influencers to design its packaging. I found 612 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: this whole marketing campaign very underwhelming. Of course, it's great 613 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: that they used five top Australian beauty influencers, but to 614 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: get them to just design the packaging, like that's not 615 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: really going to make me want to go out and 616 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: buy the mascara. To be honest, I do think it 617 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: is clever to engage FI I have top beauty influencers 618 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: because I mean, we are all talking about it now, 619 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: but in saying that, I think that they are trying 620 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: to move the Better than Sex brand into you know, 621 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. It does seem like a very twenty 622 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: fifteen brand, So I think that by changing the packaging 623 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: it is freshening the brand up a little bit. I 624 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: just don't think it's enough. I mean, beauty tutorials aren't 625 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: really a thing that many influencers do anymore, and that 626 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: was obviously a really easy brand alignment for two Face 627 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: to get their makeup out there, but they've got to 628 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: do something different. I would love to know what the 629 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: return on investment is in hiring those five influencers, because 630 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm assuming Shany Grimman wouldn't have just done the design 631 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: for free, of course not, and for the fact that 632 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: she and other influencers promoted on their Instagram stories that 633 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: again would be a fee that would have been worked 634 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: into this agreement. Do you think that they even had 635 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: anything to do with the actual designs or do you 636 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: think that they were just told, oh, this is what 637 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: your bottle's going to look like. I feel like they 638 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: would have wrung them and said, like, what vib do 639 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: you want to go with? I mean, Shani Grimman literally 640 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: just did a nude colored box with not much on it. 641 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: So that sounds so rude. It would have just been 642 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: they would have just sent three designs and said which 643 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: one do you like the best? That's what it would 644 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: have been. We're talking about disappointing. Did anyone see Hannah 645 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: Orvil's new clothing line? Yes? I did. I actually saw 646 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: Chloe Zepp, who's basically Hannah's sister in law, promoting a 647 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: very basic looking gray oversized jumper and matching shorts, and 648 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this crap that she's promoting. I 649 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: then went onto the website and they are charging, well, 650 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: Hannah Orval is charging sixty five dollars for one of 651 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: these jumpers, and it literally I could not believe. It 652 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: looks like the most basic crap that you could get 653 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: from cotton On. Is it just me or does anyone 654 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: find it a bit cringe when these products come out 655 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: and these influences are in these super serious videos where 656 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: they're pretending to be like high class model. Oh my god. 657 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: If anyone goes on the website, it's hilarious because there's 658 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: a photo of Hannah Orvils standing there very like stunned mullet, 659 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: and then there's this video of her like again with 660 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: the same facial expression. Maybe blue steels a better description. 661 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: Just like showing off this very basic jumper. It feels 662 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: very Emperor's New clothes. Why is every influencer now a 663 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: fashion designer though, That's what I don't understand, And why 664 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: is it the epitome of fashion to design just a 665 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: white tank top? But just back on the videos, does 666 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: anyone else think it's a bit alienating to people's audience 667 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: to suddenly be acting so high fashion when people follow 668 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: you because they like to see your life and the 669 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of it just seems odd to me. Well, 670 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 1: it's kind of like when Sarah's Day has her fashion 671 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: campaigns and she tries to model too much, just like 672 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: your personality, You're not a model. And then with Sarah's Day, 673 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: like she is someone known for, you know, healing her skin, 674 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: and she then wears like a shit ton of makeup 675 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: that you're not used to seeing her in, particularly when 676 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: it's for workout clothing. I mean, I'm not surprised so 677 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: that Hannah has gone and released her own clothing range. 678 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: She's obviously seen the success of Chloe Zepp's active wear. 679 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Chloe Zep's raking in money from that active whereline. 680 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: She's hoping it's obviously hoping it'll have a similar success. Yeah. Well, 681 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: talking about the Orvial family, there are some rumors going 682 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 1: around that Mitchell Orvil and Reese Hawkins are no longer friends. 683 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: So the pair actually hosted a podcast together and now 684 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: they're not following each other on Instagram. Yeah, I was 685 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: really disappointed when this podcast ended. It was called two 686 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: Open Books, and I really enjoyed it because it was 687 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: kind of refreshing to hear men discussing, you know, in 688 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: depth issues and their feelings. But yeah, it all did 689 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of end quite abruptly, which has led to a 690 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: few people kind of looking into whether they are friends anymore. Yeah, 691 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: I found it very interesting. A lot of people have 692 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: been saying that Reese Hawkins has changed a lot since 693 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: London fell pregnant. Now, you would have thought that that 694 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: news would have brought Mitchell and Reese together, considering that 695 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: Mitch and Chloe have just had Artie. Well, we did 696 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: see Shiny Grimmond and Chloe Zett become friends again, so 697 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: you never know. Once Reese's had the baby, we might 698 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: see a friendship the friendship back again. Well, to wrap 699 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: it up on some nicer news format, bachelorette and journalists 700 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: Georgia Love as well as Keep It Cleaner founder Laura 701 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: Henshaw have both had their Hen's parties and they looked 702 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: like absolutely amazing events. Well. Both of the girls are 703 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: of course from Melbourne, so it was nice to see 704 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: them finally be able to sell rate In the lead 705 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: up to their weddings, both have had to postpone their 706 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: weddings and their Hens party, so it was nice to 707 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: finally see it all coming to life on Instagram. I've 708 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: got to say Georgia Loves Bridesmaids did a epic job, 709 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: so for those who missed it, they decided to host 710 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: a bachelorette themed Hens party. So Georgia was greeted with 711 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: a limo and a date card and each at each 712 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: stop they had different date cards and she had to 713 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,959 Speaker 1: change outfits and it just looked like so much fun. 714 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: I love the detail that her sister went into. She 715 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: even found champagne glasses, you know those red, pink and 716 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: purple glasses. She even found them to have them during 717 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: the day as well. For Georgia. I would love to 718 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: note where she got those glasses from because I would 719 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: really like to invest in some of those Bachelor Bachelorette 720 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: wine glasses. I think she actually got those glasses from 721 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: the producers, so they stole them off the set. Oh wow, 722 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: so they're like custom made or something. You can't buy them. Yeah, 723 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: this reminds me of the Christmas vacation glasses that we 724 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: want to buy the Moose glasses. Well, Laura's looked equally 725 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: as nice. The setting was just beautiful. It was a 726 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: winery and it was absolutely decked out with beautiful pink 727 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: flowers everywhere. It also looks like they've celebrated in a 728 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: glamping tent. 729 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 730 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: I was very much enjoying Steph Claire Smith's post of 731 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: Laura's sisters jumping around and dancing to old school songs. 732 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: It looked like they had an amazing night. I saw 733 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 1: those last night too, and it looked like Steph Claire 734 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: Smith was drunk, but obviously she's not because she's pregnant, 735 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: but she looked at just having a lot of fun. 736 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: It's funny because she quite often pays Laura out for 737 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: her terrible dancing, So I did love catching a glimpse 738 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: of war dancing in the background. 739 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 740 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: I think her sisters also are a bit of dorky 741 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: dances as well, we're judging from those Instagram stories. Well, 742 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: I think that's all we've got time for today. 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