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Speaker 1: Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record

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Speaker 2: There were innerie people. This land was never seated, always was,

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Speaker 2: always will be well. Hello and welcome to two Good Sports,

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Speaker 2: Sports news told differently, dear listener. As always, I'm Georgie

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Speaker 3: I'm Abbe, Jelmy and George.

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Speaker 2: I want to start from the top and say I'm

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Speaker 2: so sad it's the last week of the project.

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Speaker 3: Oh, they really am.

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Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to be in at Channel ten.

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Speaker 2: There is a shrine to Georgie at Channel ten in

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Speaker 2: the makeup room. It was about my favorite thing in

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Speaker 2: the world. But I did sneak in there for a

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Speaker 2: little project. Not the project. A little project, yeah, a

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Speaker 2: little project called the Cheap Seats, Big deal, yeah, But

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Speaker 2: it was just the project so important to the fabric

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Speaker 3: And it makes me so sad to think that.

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Speaker 2: Not only will there not be the wonderful host and

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Speaker 3: Several beers this weekend.

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Speaker 2: But I also just think when guests come to Australia

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's honestly such a huge loss. I think that

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe the labyrinth of people.

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Speaker 1: In, so many people who now find themselves looking for work.

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Speaker 1: I'm obviously a bit biased because I've loved the show

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Speaker 2: Really, when we're growing up as nineties kids and peaking

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Speaker 2: That's exactly it. And as someone who's been told in.

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Speaker 2: But I think that it really was that show that

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Speaker 2: But on the Project it did. Yes, honestly the dream

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Speaker 1: We've got one more show to go, and I think

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Speaker 1: But I'm hoping that I can compartmentalize enough to see

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Speaker 2: Or as Sam Turlington says, Turling Taunton's going to come by,

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Speaker 2: who's Turlington, that's Christy Turlington, the model.

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Speaker 2: That has inspired the hat. Sam Turlington what the hybrid though?

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Speaker 2: Evacially I thought we're going to cut that out now?

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Speaker 1: I mean, did I ever think when I was growing

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Speaker 2: No? No, like he gave us. As I know, he

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Speaker 1: We'll shout out to Rope because he will be listening

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Speaker 2: But we will get to it. It is a very

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Speaker 1: Personally for me and as part of that ties in

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Speaker 2: Before we get there though, very quickly, Good Sport, bad Spot?

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Speaker 2: Where are we at? Well, if we're going to talk

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Speaker 3: Yannick Sinner, Andrea, can I just say, is that your

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Speaker 2: What have I got lined?

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Speaker 3: Hang on? No, no, no, hang on, Georgie. In our lives.

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Speaker 2: There will always be many first nights.

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Speaker 4: Only have to do this is to do yourself.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to speak over it, dear listener. That's Andrea at.

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Speaker 2: A piano where Yannick Sinner, the world's number one tennis player,

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Speaker 2: as Butchelli sings and Sinna weirdly talks while there are

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Speaker 2: slow motion photos of him as a child, and they

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Speaker 2: deigned to call this a single. Once again, dear listener,

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Speaker 2: I cannot stress enough that Jelly and I do not

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Speaker 2: talk about. Good Sport, bad Sport. It is always keep

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Speaker 2: to each other's good sport bad sport. Here's me over

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Speaker 2: here being like, this is gonna kill her. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: absolutely gonna wipe the floor with such a good one.

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Speaker 3: I think good sport because I mean because Butlli's a

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Speaker 6: But pretending talk about having the audacity to think that

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Speaker 2: He has a single with Andre's Here's here's the climax.

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Speaker 2: Here's the actual climax of the song that's Andreas every Day.

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Speaker 2: Georgian's well, this is a pistake like this, this is

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Speaker 3: That would be good?

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Speaker 2: You know what's a toe tapper? Some spoken verse slam poetry.

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Speaker 2: Here we go and they weirdly are on a mountain

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Speaker 2: with this like Cpia Hugh like the like there we love.

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Speaker 3: That's what makes it feel like a parody is the

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Speaker 1: it's so SNL.

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Speaker 2: We don't want you to think that we have ignored

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Speaker 2: the colossal signing that is Whoopi Goldberg's all Women's Sports

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Speaker 3: We're gonna whoop bee. Yeah, we're gonna get it.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get it. We're gonna assist her act. Yep,

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Speaker 2: we're manifesting. And if Yannick Singer, Wow that was an

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Speaker 1: there's no reason why we can't get Whoopi Goldberg on

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Speaker 1: this podcast. And again, I'll get the nun kids. Yeah

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Speaker 1: it has to happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll get the habits A very special guest

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Speaker 1: Now I've got a little intro for you. Oh God,

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Speaker 1: all right, but don't step wow so excited?

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Speaker 2: Here we go, Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Nothing is ever off the table. Would you please welcome

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Speaker 3: Gently be coming in another way, please welcome Wally Laly

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Speaker 4: That was a lovely introduction.

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Speaker 3: She's known for this.

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Speaker 4: I think we just ended up analyzing every players haircut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as mentioned in your introduction, you are a tiger

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Speaker 2: You love the Tiger. I actually don't know why.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's my brother's fault. Yeah, so I've had a brother,

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Speaker 2: You've watched Morning Soccer about the driver's haircut?

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Speaker 3: I'm born know the pivotal effect.

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Speaker 4: Yes, in fact, in fact, I can't believe I've forgotten

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Speaker 1: Because it was Mandy was the touchstone that's stories of

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Speaker 4: He was just only really two degrees.

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Speaker 2: What was that moment then, like for you that flag

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Speaker 1: What did that feel like as someone who had great

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Speaker 2: Yes, I've said career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she likes to think she plays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she talks about the Morons performances like she was

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Speaker 3: I'm married into Richmond, I recommend, but could have done it.

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Speaker 2: Well, essentially, when Caina and I moved in together, there

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Speaker 4: And you said, well, I'll exactly.

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Speaker 3: Take us back to twenty seventeen, it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and at that time I was living in Richmond,

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Speaker 3: Now, festivity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just like just to be that I would never

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Speaker 4: And then when when twenty seventeen happened. You got to

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Speaker 4: we'll go out in straight sets. This will be humiliating.

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Speaker 4: that game more than the Grand Final. Is the most singular,

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Speaker 4: most irreproducible game I've ever seen, because you don't see

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Speaker 3: Such a nice little time, Like again, I would have

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Speaker 2: Imagine me in that time being like I have clearly

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Speaker 3: I've never spoken about it.

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Speaker 4: Can I talk about Cane just briefly? So my brother

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Speaker 2: A premiership quarter.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 4: it's over.

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Speaker 2: It, we're winning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go back and watch the tapes. I don't even think.

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Speaker 2: In my house he's so humble. Yeah, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: to suck that up. You know, you'll be likes. Come

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Speaker 3: Louie already believes he's a tiger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and his first experience at the MCG was running

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Speaker 2: he's like, do you want to run at Louis?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, we need to. We really don't

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Speaker 2: How did you become the Tiger's mascot?

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Speaker 4: So my mate, who you know, actually go by the

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Speaker 4: I ran around on the m c J as to

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Speaker 4: the Tiger.

443
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, no, So I saw the skit on the

444
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 3: project and thought it was an elaborate.

445
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 4: No, In fact, there was one. I don't think.

446
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 5: I don't think they usually gymnast the heavy head. But

447
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 5: also like I'm sorry, you're a lawyer at the time,

448
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 5: in the mascot in my head are like teen gymnastics.

449
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 4: No, no, no, the gymnastics things you have to let go.

450
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 4: That's that's a different.

451
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: That's like Australian cheerleading with respect versus American cheer leading.

452
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's different thing, different thing. I was a law

453
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 4: student at the time. But my mate Jeff, who Tonny

454
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 4: knows and has played games with, he had the job

455
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 4: full time, really yeah, and he was in fact, he

456
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: also had the job of being the Sydney mascot for

457
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 4: away games in Melbourne. It was had a whole racket going.

458
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Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this, but he's a

459
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Speaker 4: Victorian College of the Arts graduate, so he I know,

460
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 4: we can see, yeah and act and anyway, he put

461
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 4: a lot of thought into it, so he had Tiggy

462
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 4: had a whole backstory in Jeff's era. So for example,

463
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: on Friday night games, he would turn up wearing a

464
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 4: suit carrying a briefcase because he wanted to imagine that

465
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Speaker 4: Tiggy had a day.

466
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Speaker 2: Job, and.

467
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Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone at the NCG got the backstory,

468
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 4: but it's like, why is he running around?

469
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 2: You're overqualified to be a mascot, So there's this backstory.

470
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Speaker 4: It's brilliant it anyway, So basically, whenever he couldn't do it,

471
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 4: I stepped in, but I I did a bunch of times.

472
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Speaker 4: The other other time that was there were two humiliating moments.

473
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Speaker 4: One was when I was doing it at Docklands, because

474
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Speaker 4: that's what I call it given my ABC backgrounds, and.

475
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's so annoying.

476
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sorry, Melbourne's rectangular stadium.

477
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, what's that?

478
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: Anyway? I said Docklands and I literally couldn't find the change.

479
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: Labyrinths.

480
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Speaker 4: No mascot that day?

481
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Speaker 5: You like it?

482
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 4: So?

483
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Speaker 3: Did you still sit there in.

484
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Speaker 4: The stands with a tiger head in a rubbish bag?

485
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Speaker 4: Going well, oh there was one other time We're playing

486
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Speaker 4: Melbourne and Kane Johnson, who ended up captaining Richmond, and

487
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 4: Clinton King were both in the Richmond team and I

488
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: grew up playing sport with them, Like I played cricket

489
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Speaker 4: with them, I played basketball with them, and I hadn't

490
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Speaker 4: seen them for years and then suddenly I'm in a

491
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Speaker 4: change room while they're about to run out and play

492
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Speaker 4: a game of Fall and I'm putting on a tiger

493
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, this is not the reunion?

494
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Speaker 3: Do I take the head? Would be like, guys, no

495
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: dreams of tigers we all made.

496
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Speaker 2: Let's get the footy team shot.

497
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Speaker 4: Because no, no, I'm a law student. I'm going to

498
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Speaker 4: do something proper.

499
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Speaker 2: And that you did that you did.

500
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Speaker 4: It depends who you are well.

501
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Speaker 1: Well, from tiger suits to then lawyerdom, to academia to

502
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Speaker 1: the Project Desk among many other media gigs too. We

503
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: are entering our final date, our final show is coming up.

504
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Speaker 1: This is also an opportunity for us to give a

505
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Speaker 1: little welfare.

506
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Speaker 2: Check but also to genuinely and Georgie and I were

507
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 2: saying this behind your back when we were coming up

508
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: as journalism students. You looked at the Project Desk and thought,

509
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: that's the dream. And that was when yourself were hosting,

510
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: and it was Carry and it was you know, Pete,

511
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: and you just looked and thought, and Charlie back in

512
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: the day and you just went, they are the mecha

513
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 2: like that is the pinnacle of Australian media.

514
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 3: That you almost couldn't.

515
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: It was a fantasy to think that you would end

516
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: up on that desk because of just the caliber of

517
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: media that it was. And I'm so proud of George,

518
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: and I'm so grateful for the project for showing your

519
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: range and who you are and how brilliant and bright

520
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: and irreverent.

521
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Speaker 3: It can be all at once. But you were just

522
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Speaker 3: the voice.

523
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: No, but you were, and in a time, especially before podcasts,

524
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: before those longer form discussions where people could find a

525
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 2: way to go, Wait, how do I feel about this?

526
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Speaker 3: How do I dissect this? You did that for a country.

527
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean that makes it heavy.

528
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Speaker 2: And it was heavy, though. It is heavy to have

529
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Speaker 2: those discussions in one of the only mediums that were

530
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Speaker 2: doing it at a time.

531
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably true. It's funny though I didn't think

532
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 4: about it that way, and I couldn't. If I'd thought

533
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: about it that way, I probably would have just gone

534
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Speaker 4: home and.

535
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: The old compartmentalization.

536
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, well it kind of is. Yeah, I don't know.

537
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 4: I think I found the whole experience pretty shocking actually,

538
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: And when I went there, because I came from the

539
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Speaker 4: ABC and so I started kind of just doing things.

540
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 4: I was doing on the ABC on Channel ten, except

541
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 4: like when I'm interviewing a politician whatever, and I just

542
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: found people were kind of like, WHOA, what's this? And

543
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you mean? This is actually pretty

544
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 4: strong forward. And the big thing that shocked me was

545
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 4: when I was at the ABC, I suppose. I mean,

546
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Speaker 4: I still am, but in a slightly different way. But

547
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Speaker 4: when I was at the ABC, you were never the focus.

548
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: You were never the issue. The story or the issue

549
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 4: or the interview whatever that was the issue. And then

550
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Speaker 4: when you go into the world of commercial TV, suddenly

551
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 4: it's all about personalities. And I remember doing I think

552
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 4: we did a statement on I don't know, renewable energy

553
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: targets or something like that, and the next day there's

554
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: just like headlines about me doing this thing, and I'm like, what,

555
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 4: how's that? How's that of any interest? And that kind

556
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 4: of was what was hard about it, I think was

557
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 4: that you became it all became about you rather than

558
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 4: about the thing you're talking about, and so it's like, well,

559
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: what's the point of this? You know? But I think

560
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 4: we just found a way of especially things that wouldn't

561
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: easily be explained on commercial TV in a commercial TV format.

562
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Speaker 4: The thing I'm probably happiest about through all of those

563
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: sorts of things we did was that we found a

564
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Speaker 4: way to take an issue to people that otherwise would

565
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 4: never have found it, or to think about an issue

566
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 4: with a level of depth that is impossible to glean

567
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: from just you know, a bunch of thirty second news

568
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 4: stories or whatever that you would normally get. Yeah, it

569
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 4: was pretty wild ride. It wasn't always enjoyable, but it

570
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 4: was for all those sort of public reasons, but it was.

571
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Speaker 4: It was pretty wild.

572
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Speaker 2: What will you miss most and why is it me?

573
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Speaker 4: Well, because I just don't have enough people in my

574
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: life talking at me about thank you about the broncos

575
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 4: It's so hard to say it is the people, Like

576
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: I'm an intensely nostalgic person just but I don't know

577
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 4: why it is them, And so I find that really

578
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 4: really hard. It's hard to look at you right now, Tony,

579
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 4: because it immediately just conjures up all these things. And

580
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 4: there's producers that I've worked with for like, you know,

581
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 4: more than a decade that we've done all sorts of

582
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 4: stuff with Now they're rolling out these packages of things

583
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 4: we've done on the show.

584
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: How have you found that because we spoke just before

585
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: you got here.

586
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 3: A biology that's gone.

587
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And it's both.

588
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: It's both incredibly humbling, it's really touching, but it is

589
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: also it's hard.

590
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 4: And I'm also funny, really hard because we do it

591
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 4: in front of a studio audience. They're coming, they're giving

592
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 4: us gifts, they're telling us stories about how much the

593
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 4: show mattered in their lives, all this stuff, and I'm like,

594
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: can't this just be a horrible experience that I'm glad

595
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: to get rid of at the end of the week.

596
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: But it just isn't, you know. So it is really hard,

597
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: and there will be other stuff I missed that I

598
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: don't realize. Yes, you know that I'm probably taking for granted.

599
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 4: You know, I'm delighted to, you know, for however long

600
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Speaker 4: the rest of the year, another year, maybe the rest

601
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Speaker 4: of my life not having to see something happen and go,

602
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: what do I think about this? Yes, delighted about that?

603
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: Or just organically allow yourself to feel what you feel

604
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: about it instead of going around I'm going to editorialize

605
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: this or how does this.

606
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: Make its way into content? So I'll be delighted about that,

607
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 4: But I also reckon. There'll be a moment where it's

608
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Speaker 4: like I need to be the one interviewing the treasurer

609
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: because there is something about and that sounds egotistical. I

610
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 4: don't mean it that way. I just mean there's a

611
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 4: thing where actually been getting to ask the question, and

612
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: I guess I don't never really value that. But maybe

613
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: when I'm not doing that, I.

614
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: Don't think it's egotistical.

615
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean for all of but we work in the media,

616
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Speaker 1: so it's such a I think it's it's completely natural,

617
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Speaker 1: such a natural want. Because I'll be watching I'm like, oh,

618
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Speaker 1: ask this, and of course my watching.

619
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Speaker 2: The Olympics, I wanted to hurt myself, yeah jokingly.

620
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: But as you're.

621
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Speaker 2: Watching and you're like, oh, you've got to ask her

622
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 2: about this, like you just naturally want to be the

623
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Speaker 2: one in the driver's seat.

624
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. And then you stop and think there will

625
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Speaker 4: be all these people watching you do it, thinking exactly

626
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: the same thing. Well, that's not fair. I think that

627
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: should be no. But look, it's been a while, right,

628
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: it's been. I never imagine myself doing anything like this.

629
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: Even when I started. I remember carry saying to me, look,

630
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 4: if you're going to do this, you really need to commit,

631
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: like we need you need to do three years or

632
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: something like that. And I was like, oh god, that

633
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: seems like a long time and then you know.

634
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Speaker 5: It is.

635
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: And also just there were you know, other things I

636
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 4: would have loved to have done that never happened up,

637
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: Like I would go home from the project and sit

638
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: on the couch and watch I don't know, someone who

639
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: looked a lot like you're presenting what the Fox and

640
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 4: one day us one day, one day that could be,

641
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 4: but they never what the Fox?

642
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: Never What the Tiger. You can't host What the Fox?

643
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: You're What the Tiger?

644
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: Probably appeared on What the Fox?

645
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: Okay is if you're not one of the three people

646
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: on the planet that remembers that segment. When I was

647
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: all of twenty twenty five starting out at Fox Sports,

648
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: the first on air segment I did, which sounds so

649
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: jealmy coded was what the Fox? That was Tara Rushton

650
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: and I used to who's a staff and we used

651
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: to alternate between who would find weird clips on the

652
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: Internet and just basically be like, here's Steph Curry making

653
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: a trick shot, how about that Fox?

654
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: What the Fox?

655
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: And it was like it was the fact that it

656
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: still doesn't exist in a world where clips go more

657
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: viral is bizarre to me.

658
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: The cheap seats basically do it. So that was great.

659
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: You're a Sprier and like you, I assume just get

660
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: lots of people coming up to you talking about what

661
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Speaker 4: the fox.

662
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: Just as you go through, who's brought up to me?

663
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: Now it's a deep cut. It's a deep I.

664
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: Love the deep cuts. The best thing is we had

665
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister in here angling to get on off

666
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: side and Walid wants to be on not revealing.

667
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: Thing that doesn't even exist. That was canceled, by the way.

668
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: Speaking of Tara Rushton, I did offer to give up

669
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: my job so that Tara Rushton could have it for Cooper,

670
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: so that Copron would stay in Melbourne.

671
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: A couple more questions from US project related ones.

672
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: Yes, are they projects book questions?

673
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: Well, actually, I've got who's your favorite sports star you've

674
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: met via project? That was going to be one of them.

675
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: That's a very hard if is now included because he

676
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: did f one movie, well, I suppose sported with him.

677
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: The one I really remember is Eric Cantona. So I

678
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: got to interview Eric canton Like you know, Manchester United

679
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: legends was just about to be inducted into the Premier

680
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: League Hall of Fame and hadn't been at that point.

681
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: Were saying, I don't I don't care about this, and

682
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: then when you did it, it was like yes, but

683
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 4: also I don't know how well you know him, but

684
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: absolutely bonkers French guy, like the guy who would get

685
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: up receiving some award from FIFA or UEFA or something

686
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 4: and then just proceed to deliver some kind of poetry

687
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 4: that no one understood. And it's just like, what just

688
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 4: happened this guy? And it's rare that you actually get

689
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: to interview like I know, Peak on interview Lebron I think,

690
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: and that was a big moment. Yeah, yeah, like things

691
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 4: like that, but it's actually rare. You're always interviewing people

692
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 4: in the moment when they do something. You know, look

693
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 4: beverage after the dogs won the flag or whatever. Lots

694
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 4: of footballers, Sam thoughid I was always great, fun like,

695
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: there's always those, but then there are people that are,

696
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 4: you know, at a level where they're just in there

697
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 4: there forever, you know what I mean, And he was

698
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 4: one of them. And I hate Manchester United, absolutely hate

699
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: Manchester United. But to talk to the guy who fly

700
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: kicked a spectator and talk to him about.

701
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: That and have him answer, yeah, yeah, it was.

702
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: It was genuinely amazing and something that this is peeling

703
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: back the curtain a bit. Sometimes we do the interviews

704
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 4: at home on a zoom link and then we go

705
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 4: into the studio and re record the questions because that's

706
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 4: the studio is not available or whatever. And that was

707
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: when I did at home and my youngest Zaide, is

708
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 4: obsessed with football, and I'm doing the interview and Zaide's

709
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: in front of me listening, and I just called him

710
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: around and I said, hey, Isaiad Eric Cantoner? And he did.

711
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: And Zaid's just like like, he's this doesn't happen. How

712
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: does this happen? Those sorts of things. That's a really

713
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: good question, I reckon he would have been about maybe thirteen.

714
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: I just love that he's gone to school and he's like, anyway,

715
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: so my dad's friends with him. Yeah, yeah, he just

716
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 2: talks to him on the regular.

717
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

718
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. It must have felt really weird like that. Yeah,

719
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: So I don't know. That's that's the one I remember

720
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 4: the top of my head.

721
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 3: And was he a good interview?

722
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: He was great.

723
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because sometimes you get excited to meet people and

724
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 2: you let down another ones.

725
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: Wow, you've got great.

726
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 2: Can you tell us who that's been?

727
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: I can tell you mine? Do that?

728
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: What if I tell you mine? Though, and then you

729
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: can tell me and the.

730
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: World knows what yours is. Mariah care No, it's not.

731
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean that's one of them, but no, no, no,

732
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: because I was only I was expecting that from Mariah.

733
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: I was like that, I.

734
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: Was she owns yeah, yeah, and I was.

735
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: I was just like, that's to be honest, I actually thought, and.

736
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 4: As Maria was just disappointed that it wasn't.

737
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Mariah's favorite is Walid? Like that is that's actually project

738
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 2: for she?

739
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: Like where's Waldo?

740
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: She said, where's ma lead? She called Walid Malid? So

741
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: Mariah wasn't you know? It wasn't a peak like achievement

742
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: for me in terms of how that interview did go down.

743
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: But my most personally disappointing, and it's nothing on them.

744
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: It was me building up the interview so much because

745
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: I was genuinely so excited to talk to them. Was

746
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 2: Tom Holland because I adore.

747
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Him and I love Spider Man and I just love

748
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: him and Zendaya. I've loved him since The Impossible, that

749
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: Tsunami movie where it's him and the brothers and.

750
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: That Lucas Lucas and he runs down anyway. I adore

751
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: the man. And it was for a very serious project that.

752
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: He was working on, so he was in serious he

753
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: was in a really serious.

754
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: Mode, and there was part of the interview that he

755
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: actually looked at his once and I was like, that's

756
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: my time of death. Thank you, let's write that down.

757
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: And it was just one of those moments where I

758
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: was like, oh, like, hopefully I get intoe him again,

759
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: whereas I think, sure he'll be delight.

760
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 3: The week after, didn't Timothy Shallamo singer Chance.

761
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: I remember that because Georgie loves the pop cult and

762
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 2: I was like that, I remember you were so excited

763
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: about it and you were like, he wasn't that right?

764
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: And then I saw the cuts of Timothy shell May,

765
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm like.

766
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: They've resurrected themselves, the heart throbs of the twenty twenty.

767
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: They're back, We're back, We're back. But yeah, that was

768
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: That's when you.

769
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: Don't have to say who was bad, but who outside

770
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: of sport did you lull?

771
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 5: Oh?

772
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: Well, I think it asked my favorite guest, and my

773
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 4: answer hasn't changed for many years.

774
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: And say at the same time, I know who two

775
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: one Elmo?

776
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 4: Oh it was magnificent.

777
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 3: Do you know what? Yeah, fellow mascot, that's right.

778
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: Have you ever been in a wrestle Elmo?

779
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: I can give you some.

780
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 4: T it's weird. Almo. I don't think he's ever done that.

781
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 4: That's something I got up.

782
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: I don't think you can see why was it?

783
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 4: Well, So interviewing Almo is kind of a bit of

784
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: a production because of course, like, okay, cover Kiddy's ears,

785
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 4: it's not he's not real. There's a guy who does

786
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: that anyway, So Elmo comes to the guy who plays

787
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: Almo comes in. Not the original guy. It's different.

788
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: Guy comes in, Wow, flifting behind the veil. Is there

789
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 3: another one?

790
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 4: Wow, there's a whole backst Elmo's old. You can you

791
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: can google the original guy and you'll find out why

792
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 4: I said that. Anyway, So okay, there's a The guy

793
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: comes in and he's obviously under the desk holding up Elmo,

794
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 4: so he can you know, but we had to install

795
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: a monitor under the desk so he can see where

796
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: is looking. And like if Elma wants to look down

797
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 4: the barrel of the camera. He's got to know.

798
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 3: Where the camera is.

799
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So this all happens like an hour before. And

800
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: so he's coming in and it's like, hey, mate, how

801
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: you doing, And the whole the magic is totally ruined, Like,

802
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 4: oh my god, there's like a little rag on the

803
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 4: floor that used to be Elmo. Is this guy anyway?

804
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: He's great, really enjoyed speaking to him. Seems like a

805
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 4: really regular guy. Anyway, we can't back Later an hour

806
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: later do the show. He comes out, same same guy

807
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: you're from before. Hey, hey doing man. He's under the

808
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 4: desk doing his thing. I ask him a question. Elmo

809
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 4: looks at me and I am under his spell. Elmo's

810
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: real and I'm talking to him. Yeah, And it does

811
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 4: not matt all. The fact that the artifice has been

812
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: made abundantly plane doesn't change any of that. And then

813
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 4: to watch him work, like we would throw questions at

814
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: him and how old's almost four?

815
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: I think he's three or four years Yeah.

816
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: To watch him make adult jokes but never break the

817
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 4: boundaries of the character being a four year old kid

818
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 4: is something like it would be the easiest thing in

819
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 4: the world for Elmo to work blue right, all right,

820
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: here's a sex gag that's hilarious, but it would destroy

821
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 4: the character. So he knows the bounds of it, but

822
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: to work within it, but just throw little bits out

823
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: there for the adults without its being inappropriate was unbelievable.

824
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: He was on Chicken Chop date, right Elmo. It was yes,

825
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: and it was fantastic in.

826
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: That like es, yeah, he's remarkable. It was genuinely he

827
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: started making jokes about rent control buildings and I'm just like,

828
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 4: this is genius. And then he made us some for

829
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: his own social for Elmo social media accounts. He made

830
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: us tell him a joke.

831
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: What was?

832
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 4: Can I try to remember it was? I think it

833
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 4: was a knock knock joke? Oh it was, and it's

834
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: something like I said, I'll tell you a joke, but

835
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 4: I just needed to promise you one thing after that.

836
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 4: I don't miss this to be a thing where right

837
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: here a joke, you laugh, and then you just forget

838
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 4: about me. Will you can you remember me? Will you

839
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: can you just promise me you'll remember that we had

840
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: this moment and that he goes, yeah, sure, let's do it.

841
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: Knock knock, he said, who's there. I said, you've forgotten already,

842
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 4: and he looked at me and he went, great setup, and.

843
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 5: That's what you're going to do after the project, you

844
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: make it a long campaign's magical.

845
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 4: Yeah it was. It was one of the greatest days

846
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: of Oh and there's been so many Yeah, almost a

847
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 4: great setup to me. So yeah, there are so many

848
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 4: we could talk about. But that's the one.

849
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: What what are you going to do?

850
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. There's this sporting podcast I've been

851
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 4: hoping to three No, honestly, I don't know. I don't know,

852
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: do you know? Really?

853
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm turning a book right now.

854
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's probably something that I should. Yeah, you've

855
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 4: been doing that for a while. Maybe now you'll actually No,

856
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 4: I just I don't know. I'm going to I'm hoping

857
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: to take a break. I've still got things I have

858
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 4: to do, like weekly, I've got a radio show, a column. Okay,

859
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: so I've got to stuff. Yeah, so that stuff. But

860
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: I'll figure it out.

861
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 3: And daunting or exciting.

862
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 4: It's both, you know, because doing something new is to

863
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 4: take risk. Probably I guess I'm risk averse, even though

864
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 4: doing commercial TV is pretty risky thing to do, so

865
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 4: I guess you know, I would.

866
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: Say being a mascot is quite risky, but you went full.

867
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: You're wearing the mask. That's why the spinoff has to

868
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: be the mascot. No, I don't know. I don't even

869
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 4: know if it's media, but you know, we'll see it

870
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 4: probably will be. And I've got some ideas and I've

871
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 4: got you know, there are people I'll have meetings with,

872
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: but I don't know. I've got time now, which I've

873
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: never had never.

874
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: We work in a weird world where you, more so

875
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: than Georgia and I, your job becomes affiliated with who

876
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: people think you are. As in I used to feel

877
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: like Abby from Channel seven meant something, and when that

878
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: was taken from me, I thought I was a lot

879
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: more secure in who I was as a person without

880
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: that brand being attached. And whether we like it or not,

881
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: we're humans but conditioned that when people are loosely impressed

882
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: with us it feels nice. Has any thought of what

883
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: that might feel like when it's been such a part

884
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: of We'll lead from the project, what that will feel like?

885
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's sort of confronting in its own way,

886
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: especially because it's not something I've thought a lot about yeah, right,

887
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: And I always felt that I maintained a pretty clear

888
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: distance from whatever job I was doing. But I guess

889
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 4: when something like this happens to.

890
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: You, can you win a gold LOGI yeah, yeah, there's

891
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 2: all that that happens to you.

892
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happens to you. And then when it's so

893
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 4: now that's going away, there is that moment of like, Okay, now,

894
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: I guess I discover whether or not the distance I

895
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 4: thought I had from that job or that person is real.

896
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I'll find out, but the fact

897
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: that I'm feeling such strong pangs of nostalgia that's partly

898
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 4: just me, but it's also I think it says that

899
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 4: there's something of that that's worked its way into me.

900
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 4: And then maybe it's a great thing not to be

901
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: doing that, Like maybe that's actually really important thing I

902
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: have to go through. But it's a really insightful observation

903
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 4: that you make, one that comes from experience. I guess

904
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 4: maybe that's the only way you can come across it.

905
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I guess now I just figure

906
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 4: out all the other things that I could possibly be

907
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 4: because which is exciting. It could be exciting, Yeah, and

908
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 4: I will say, I don't want to overread this, but

909
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: I will say there is a lot about not being

910
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 4: that that is really appealing. Because you know, I've spoken

911
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 4: before about the show of going into commercial TV and

912
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: what that was like. There is this really weird associative

913
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: feeling you get when there is someone out in the

914
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: public domain, like this character who has nothing to do

915
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 4: with you but just happens to have the same name

916
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 4: as you. It takes a while to come to terms

917
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 4: with that, and I'll be really glad to Well, maybe

918
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: I won't be able to let that go, but it

919
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 4: would be nice to. So that'll be good things about it.

920
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: Well, anytime that you feel like having an existential crisis,

921
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: you can come back and talk to us. See, I

922
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: think we're pretty famous for it. Dear listener, I correct

923
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. We may have mentioned a couple

924
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: of times.

925
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 4: They're the only terms. Yeah, don't come back unless you're

926
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 4: having an existential crisis.

927
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: You could come back in the Peaks and the Trocks.

928
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: The existential crisis for sure. I mean, you've had to

929
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: listen to mine many times over the years, so we

930
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: can repay it, we can figure it out.

931
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, good, I didn't I didn't record yours and put

932
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: it out internationally.

933
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: But well that seems that she has.

934
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah from you, But thank you. It has honestly been

935
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: such a joy having you. It's meant a lot to

936
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: me that you come on this podcast, in this that

937
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: you came on this podcast. In this last week ahead

938
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: of our final show interject here Georgie spoke about your friendship.

939
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about Georgie's friendship and

940
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: when she first wandered.

941
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: In what you're expecting and what you because it's been

942
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: three years.

943
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 4: No, but it's true, Well that depends what Georgie said,

944
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: because I don't want to I don't want to outbah Tony,

945
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 4: don't cry cry No, look I will say and unfortunately

946
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 4: I'm going to be one of a trillion people who

947
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 4: say this. But Tony is an absolute delight to work with.

948
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 4: And there are days when you know Tony is going

949
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 4: to be on the desk in whatever capacity, it's like, oh,

950
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: this will be this will be a great day. I

951
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 4: know that whatever comes up as an issue will have

952
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 4: better off screen conversations and we will on because we'll

953
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 4: go deep and random, and that she'll introduce me to

954
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: people and their partners like their celebrity partners that I've

955
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 4: never heard of, and try to get me interested in it,

956
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: but that you'd know this being friends with Georgie, that

957
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: her capacity to at the very least incredibly feign interest.

958
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: Oh you've skewered me there, and whatever it is that

959
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: you're talking about.

960
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: You're the most important person.

961
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 4: In the world.

962
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

963
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And to be wholly present when you're talking about something.

964
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 4: And I've had those moments where I'm talking to Tunny

965
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 4: about something and halfway through, I'm like, she's not interested

966
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 4: in this, Why are you talking about this? But there's

967
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 4: not a flicker of that on her. No, It's genuinely remarkable.

968
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 4: And I've worked with a lot of people on that desk,

969
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 4: but having worked with Tony is something I'll cherish for

970
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: a long time. I've already spoken to her about doing

971
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 4: something again in future. Pretty sure we can't think of

972
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 4: anything that would actually work that way, but the dreams alive,

973
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 4: and maybe it'd be something about etymology. Yeah, the show

974
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: can be called Fanaticus and it'll be a sports show

975
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: done entirely in Latin.

976
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: I've got to study for it.

977
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: I think the new Channel team will be very interesting.

978
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. You made me absolutely so get some

979
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: of these tears out before our final show. But you're

980
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: just the best, and.

981
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 7: Honey, oh, I just think you're wonderful and I hope

982
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 7: that everyone else knows that about you because you can

983
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 7: see you on screen and everyone thinks that you're this

984
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 7: voice of authority, and you are, but you're also the

985
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 7: biggest kid that I know, and that joy is just

986
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 7: truly infectious. Thank you, And you can't get away from

987
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 7: me because it's Jeremy knows I'm a fucking.

988
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: And I think that still find you. You've invited her

989
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: into your home. She'll find you.

990
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: This is a niche reference, but for Gelm it all

991
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 2: makes sense. I'm unsure for you. Have you seen wedding crashes.

992
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: She's got red hair. Now she's il Fisher.

993
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: You may run, you cannot hide.

994
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 2: We will round out this and I'll save George because

995
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: you need a moment deep breath. You've also got it,

996
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: you got you gotta pull it together. I'm pulling it together.

997
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: Got a couple of days, babe.

998
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 2: I believe in pulling it together.

999
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 3: Believe in you. We have a segment called fun Fact.

1000
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: Can you what is your do you have a random

1001
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: sporting fun fact.

1002
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: And usually I.

1003
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 2: Would think this is unkind to spring on a guest

1004
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: of anyone I know that's already dropped eight during the episode.

1005
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: They are all my facts.

1006
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: I do have a fun fact, that is, it's a

1007
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 4: current fact, so this is not historical. I could go

1008
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 4: to historical for example. You know those players, you know

1009
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: how players out through a race surrounded by like a

1010
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 4: cage type thing that began at Victoria Park because the

1011
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 4: Collingwood crowd was so horrible that the players needed to

1012
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 4: be protected from the projectiles that they would throw. Yeah,

1013
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: it's amazing. That got so bad one year I think

1014
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 4: in eighteen ninety nine or something that Fitzroy, we're playing

1015
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 4: at Collingwood, had to be escorted by the police back

1016
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 4: to their suburb. Amazing. But that's not my top.

1017
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: That almost happens to Adelaide.

1018
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, fanatic, No, that's.

1019
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: Not my fun fact. My fun fact is right now,

1020
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 4: there is an enormous but also ignored tournament going on,

1021
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: the Club World Cup. I don't know if has anyone

1022
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 4: paid any attention.

1023
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: We haven't yet.

1024
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 4: Club World so soccer tournament, so you know, the World Cup.

1025
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 4: It's that, but it's clubs from all over the world.

1026
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 4: So you know, Real Madrid are playing their Bayern Munich

1027
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 4: playing their matches to City and they're playing like Auckland

1028
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 4: City at FC, who like anyway, yeah my fun.

1029
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: Fact, who have done amazing things.

1030
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 4: In an augural year. Yeah yeah, no, no not, that's

1031
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: the amazing thing about it. So Auckland FC plays in

1032
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 4: the A League. It's not them because they're part of Australia,

1033
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: because that's they're in the A League. This is Auckland

1034
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 4: City FC, who play in the New Zealand League because

1035
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 4: they represent Oceania. It's this bizarre situation and they're amateur

1036
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 4: and they played their first game against Bayern Munich in

1037
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: this tournament and they lost ten nils. Unbelievable anyway, this

1038
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 4: is it's a bonkers tournament. It might end up being

1039
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 4: amazing anyway, be that. But the fun fact is this.

1040
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 4: The highest paid player for Auckland City FC would have

1041
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 4: to be paid his salary for one hundred and seventeen

1042
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 4: years to match the weekly salary of Harry Cage.

1043
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: Fun fact weekly salary weekly And there it is. That's it.

1044
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: That's even got our pres Wally can just pop in

1045
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: and do our fun back every.

1046
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 3: Week because usual.

1047
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: Georgie's fun fact last week was that she and Luckie

1048
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: Neil must be the same person because they both like Pokemon.

1049
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: Okame, that's fun. That's fun and to be fair, I

1050
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 4: didn't know it.

1051
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

1052
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: That's why forever my wing man. Yeah, com my back,

1053
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: go my back, Harry Kane, Tottenham could use you'd like

1054
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: to return? Thank you, oh Aid, we love you, Thank

1055
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,479
Speaker 2: you very much for being here. Thank you and look,

1056
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: let's pray for me that I cry this much and

1057
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: the final show, but you'll always have Pokemon and the

1058
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: fact that you were actually a mascot and that that

1059
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: hasn't been an elaborate joke.

1060
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: No, it has gone on for a long time. Has

1061
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: it blown my mind? So as a true good sport.

1062
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining us.

1063
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: Thank you having that's all we have time for on

1064
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: this extended episode.

1065
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 4: It'll be fifteen minutes.

1066
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: I literally did say that fifteen minutes. Will There'll be

1067
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 2: a latte maybe Jack Rae. Well until next week, dear listener,

1068
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: bey a good school