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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: How are you not too bad?

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Speaker 1: Well, exactly what you'd called for on the show last week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, we need to work with the anti government.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Marion, with this two hundred and fifty million dollar

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Speaker 1: We'd heard the same from Michael Little in Alice Springs

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Speaker 2: Katie. One of the first parts that we've got to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, we just all now need to work

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Speaker 2: So thank you, Katy.

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Speaker 2: and you know, we need to move forward. But I'll

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Speaker 2: keep you in touch with particularly the financial side and

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Speaker 2: how that rolls out, Katie, because that should be part

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Speaker 2: of the transparency of holding governments to account as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what's happening with that funding. So I'll provide

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Speaker 2: I've got it.

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Speaker 1: And Marian, will you be pushing for the PM to

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Speaker 1: head back to Alice Springs at some point soon?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I know that he is, you know, because

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Speaker 2: when you think of you know, the brief and you

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Speaker 2: know he is in so much mind to visit. But

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping that he will come do Alice Springs or

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Speaker 2: back to the northern territory and it's not just about

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Speaker 2: you know, the sad stuff and what we've seen, but

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Speaker 2: to celebrate with territorians on what a good place we

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Speaker 2: all live in Cajin. I think sometimes we forget that. Well.

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Speaker 1: Marion Scrimjaw, the Member for Lingiari, I appreciate all the

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Speaker 1: time you've given us over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for speaking with us this morning

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Speaker 1: on what's a busy day in parliament worries. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thanks your time,