Speaker 1: Okay, Legends, without further ado, we're gonna get straight into
Speaker 1: the podcast. Love to cover here, Brandon, Welcome to the.
Speaker 2: Pod, Mace.
Speaker 3: I got to say I was out. It was my
Speaker 3: birthday this week, and it's your birthday this week, so
Speaker 3: I hope you have a very happy birthday this week.
Speaker 3: Everyone jump into his DMS and kind of even it
Speaker 3: out a bit. But I was out to dinner and
Speaker 3: I missed the start of the game. You know, all
Speaker 3: that preamble, all that stuff that happened pre game, and
Speaker 3: I was like, nothing will happened pre game?
Speaker 2: It's fine.
Speaker 3: I just fucked, wow, did something happen pre game? And
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about that later in the episode.
Speaker 3: But yeah, what do we I reckon, Let's jump into
Speaker 3: the games, because last week we had a monster episode
Speaker 3: and we need to just start ticking them over. But
Speaker 3: we had some actual footy, even though it was round zero,
Speaker 3: it was real stuff for real points.
Speaker 1: It's actually it's not very tel stuff anymore, Braiden. This
Speaker 1: is real stuff. We're getting into the real thick it
Speaker 1: now and footy seasons final upon us and Round zero.
Speaker 1: We're gonna chest this out. Round zero. It's gonna do
Speaker 1: my head in doing Round zero Run one, trying to
Speaker 1: figure this out for the next couple weeks. But Round
Speaker 1: zero and the first game that was up was Sydney
Speaker 1: versus Melbourne The Rockman's Dream.
Speaker 3: Wait before we get into it, I want to issue
Speaker 3: a please explain to the AFL. Seems we're just handing
Speaker 3: them out. I don't know if you saw this, but
Speaker 3: a graphic the AFL put out with Christian Petrarca and
Speaker 3: Errol Golden mooning down the Sydney Harbor on a couple
Speaker 3: of seeds to launch the season.
Speaker 1: Do they get approval before they go live for these things?
Speaker 1: They just put their slap their face on whatever they want.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what the hell they're doing. How's
Speaker 3: that relevant in any way, shape or form? Why seedews?
Speaker 1: There is a Sydney you know, bridge in the background.
Speaker 1: I'll give them that, but I'm not really sure who's
Speaker 1: in the background of the seeds and the choice of that,
Speaker 1: I don't really Yeah, it was an interesting decision if
Speaker 1: that went.
Speaker 3: Through layers of approval and they like love the jet skis,
Speaker 3: love everything about this. Actually, can we put some fire
Speaker 3: works and some helicopters in the sky and then it's
Speaker 3: it's good to go. But I just want to issuate,
Speaker 3: please explain for that one. But let's jump into it
Speaker 3: because there was a nice touch off the top Vegus Brayshaw,
Speaker 3: unfortunately retiring through concussion only recently doesn't get to play
Speaker 3: on from here. But Melbourne and Max Gorn, they had
Speaker 3: the helmet up as the players ran out and they
Speaker 3: each touched the helmet, which I thought was a touching
Speaker 3: tribute to Angus. But that wasn't the only thing that
Speaker 3: Max Gorn was involved in because it was all about
Speaker 3: the rock battle. Max Gorn, Brody Grundy head to head.
Speaker 3: Brody obviously playing at Melbourne last year playing he hardly
Speaker 3: got a game so to go up there and you know,
Speaker 3: be unveiled as Sydney's ruckman.
Speaker 2: What did you make of that matchup.
Speaker 1: We talked about last week on the Pot. I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was so good. It was just a one on
Speaker 1: one battle. They were just duking it out the whole day,
Speaker 1: like just just wrestling in the middle of the ground
Speaker 1: like sooner bouts. Brody was coming across really hard, getting
Speaker 1: into a space and as a ruckman who sees all
Speaker 1: the little kind of things, of what they do against
Speaker 1: each other to try to kind of one up each other.
Speaker 1: It was awesome viewing. I absolutely loved it, and like
Speaker 1: we talked about who was going to win. I said, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Max get around the ground a
Speaker 1: bit better, but Brody win the hitouts. It was pretty even,
Speaker 1: though I think Brody probably you know, was a bit
Speaker 1: you know, I had a few more stats than the MAXI,
Speaker 1: but like, over the whole game, it was pretty even.
Speaker 1: I think anyone that's a fan of the rock craft
Speaker 1: that goes into this kind of stuff would have just
Speaker 1: absolutely loved that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 3: I watched the commentary around it on Fox Footy and
Speaker 3: it was a rollercoaster, to say the least. At halftime
Speaker 3: they were given it to Max Gone. Such a one
Speaker 3: sided affair, really, that horse put on Hayden MacLean onto
Speaker 3: Max Gone because Grundy just couldn't go with him. It
Speaker 3: was one sided and it was all over from there.
Speaker 3: At the end of the game they were saying, Brody
Speaker 3: Grundy dismantled Max Gone, he was cooked, he was out
Speaker 3: of his feet. Now it's going to be the blueprint
Speaker 3: for all rucks going forward and all hail Brody Grundy.
Speaker 3: It was very interesting commentary on it. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: did think that maybe Brody in the whole, over the
Speaker 3: whole course of the game got him. But there were
Speaker 3: some moments where you could see both rucks just getting
Speaker 3: through the middle of the ground.
Speaker 2: They were both exhausted.
Speaker 3: They did a lot of running, a lot of pack
Speaker 3: to pack stuff, and yeah, they were literally walking through
Speaker 3: the middle of the ground. But then, as we always
Speaker 3: see with Max Gorn, you see him walking in the
Speaker 3: middle of the ground and then he's in the pack
Speaker 3: in the goal square.
Speaker 2: He just gets there.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that has a tank right Like. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say Max Gon are many ruckmen in general, right like,
Speaker 1: have a max speed that's like a flat out sprint
Speaker 1: that's going to rival anyone else on the team. But
Speaker 1: his contest to contest work is what's so impressive. He's
Speaker 1: got that I guess that speed to get from one
Speaker 1: to another. It's not lightning fast, but it's enough to
Speaker 1: be able to make sure that every contest downline he's there,
Speaker 1: to be able to make a presence, and he takes
Speaker 1: clanks down line like that's one of his big kind
Speaker 1: of you know, things he's added to his game, had
Speaker 1: in his game for a long time is his ability
Speaker 1: with his hands just take massive, like massive massive, I
Speaker 1: guess momentum shifters whenever you have a big man down
Speaker 1: the line, take a mark and he essentially lose one
Speaker 1: hundred meters of territory whenever that happens, getting him a
Speaker 1: kick knacks. So he's an incredible rockman, both of them are.
Speaker 1: It was a great watch over the weekend. Brody very
Speaker 1: close with them. It was I loved it and I
Speaker 1: actually I actually ran into Max after the game. He
Speaker 1: was at the hotel and just chatting to him like
Speaker 1: and he's just like, man, it was so humid, like
Speaker 1: it was insane, and you know, they just duked it
Speaker 1: out for four for two hours straight.
Speaker 2: It was a very ugly game, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: And they threw down to Jude Bolton on the bench
Speaker 3: and they said, Jude, is it wet down there? Because
Speaker 3: it's like a bar of soape. They can't handle it.
Speaker 3: And he said, no, it's fine, it's fine down here.
Speaker 3: Within five minutes he was like Jesus Jewy down here, boys,
Speaker 3: But yeah, I want to get your thoughts on a
Speaker 3: tactic that I got Brody Grundy implemented, and it was
Speaker 3: very obvious from the opening bounce he was waiting.
Speaker 2: As soon as it was bounced, he sprinted.
Speaker 3: Across the center line and kind of took away Maxcorn's
Speaker 3: space straight away. And then I was wondering if that's
Speaker 3: something that he learned at his time at Melbourne or
Speaker 3: if it's just something more broad that Ruckman have been
Speaker 3: looking at with Maxcorn's game.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's probably the change in the ruling
Speaker 1: of being able to come across and use your arms
Speaker 1: and kind of stiff arm stuff, and like, as long
Speaker 1: as he gets back to the ball, there's no issue
Speaker 1: with it. But with Max can he's a good jumper.
Speaker 1: I know Brody like he essentially made it a ball
Speaker 1: up And we've talked about this of like what the
Speaker 1: center bounds will eventually become right and the center bounce
Speaker 1: we think in five to ten years will end up
Speaker 1: just being a ball up. They won't want as many
Speaker 1: injuries if someone sticking knees into each other and no
Speaker 1: shin guards needed in games and stuff like that, right
Speaker 1: where Brody essentially just took that to the next level
Speaker 1: where he's like, I'm going to force this into a
Speaker 1: ball up. I'm going to sprint across and then just
Speaker 1: body you and then we can just duke it out
Speaker 1: from there and figure out where the ball lands. Different
Speaker 1: look to what I've probably seen in the past of
Speaker 1: what Brody do or what Brodie's done, but it was
Speaker 1: it was an interesting tacting. It worked like it wasn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, Max was getting on top and being able
Speaker 1: to get these like incredible hits that were outside of
Speaker 1: the circle and being able to kind of get space
Speaker 1: for his midfielders. It just became essentially a ball up
Speaker 1: in the center of the ground for every single center bounds.
Speaker 3: It seemed like, yeah, it seemed like it took a
Speaker 3: while for Max to you know, counter that come up
Speaker 3: with something to be like what it was.
Speaker 2: Just it was very out of the box.
Speaker 3: But it was great by Brodie to, you know, at
Speaker 3: least try something to negate his influence. Now, I want
Speaker 3: to say something that I thought things that we look
Speaker 3: at for that we just enjoy Nick Blakey running through
Speaker 3: the middle of.
Speaker 1: The roa lizard and he's just got his.
Speaker 3: Thing going and he gets around multiple players. He always
Speaker 3: does the fake kick and then he gets around him.
Speaker 3: He did that like three times on the wing and
Speaker 3: then he's kicking inside fifty is insane. He just always
Speaker 3: hits the target and it's just something that always brings
Speaker 3: a smile to my face. And I'm watching Sydney games
Speaker 3: and he's and lizard in full flight running through the middle.
Speaker 3: It's just something that I love to watch.
Speaker 1: It's such an important rule for teams. I think if
Speaker 1: it's someone to break that lines from like you know,
Speaker 1: defense to midfield to forwards, and he just like floors
Speaker 1: through all three lines essentially, like is able to get
Speaker 1: from one one end to the other. I mean those
Speaker 1: people like it. It really kind of you know, I
Speaker 1: guess kickstarts your offense, especially on turnover if he can
Speaker 1: get the ball and just kind of drive legs and
Speaker 1: be able to get it all the way out to
Speaker 1: the to the deepest forwards. Like that's an invaluable role
Speaker 1: that every single club kind of has someone that does that,
Speaker 1: Like we we have like Q like dark people drivers
Speaker 1: legs every once in a while and try to break lines.
Speaker 1: Like there's people even O Lag, Like there's people with
Speaker 1: every club that kind of does that. But Nick the
Speaker 1: way he does it, like he's Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 1: I just it just kind of how unique it looks
Speaker 1: is what I think I love the most about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it's just there's something about him and the fact
Speaker 1: that he's named lizard. It is perfect, like that is
Speaker 1: the greatest, like just deductive reasoning of exactly what he
Speaker 1: looks like whenever he runs.
Speaker 3: There's a few of them when the crowd slowly starts
Speaker 3: to build up. It's always awesome to see something that was,
Speaker 3: you know, courageous and you'll love to see it. But
Speaker 3: unfortunately I had a negative result was Jake Bowie putting
Speaker 3: himself in kind of the hole against Justin mcinnernie to
Speaker 3: get hurt, but to you know, stop an easy mark
Speaker 3: inside fifty for Sydney.
Speaker 2: I was very courageous of him.
Speaker 3: He seemed to have hurt his shoulder in some way
Speaker 3: and has come from the ground. But I just wanted
Speaker 3: to flag that as something that was it was he knew,
Speaker 3: I think the commentator said it. He it looked like
Speaker 3: he knew that he was going to get hurt.
Speaker 2: But he just had the feelings too.
Speaker 1: It's like you gotta stick yourhead in the hole. You
Speaker 1: got to go back with a fly or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not going to be a good feeling.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get freaking smacked. Yeah, but it's just part
Speaker 1: of the game. You got to do it, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's never it's an uneasy feeling just being out
Speaker 1: there and having to do it. Yeah, unfortunate to come
Speaker 1: up with a bit of a you know, I guess
Speaker 1: a bit of not necessarily a big injury. We haven't
Speaker 1: really got the details to it, but yeah, for that
Speaker 1: to have and is never ideal. Whenever it's part of
Speaker 1: the game you kind of have to commit to.
Speaker 3: It's always extra courageous when it's a little feller putting
Speaker 3: himself in there. But yeah, we hope all the best,
Speaker 3: all the best with whatever injury comes out of it.
Speaker 3: Something that we don't like to see and something that
Speaker 3: you know it was bound to come up straight away
Speaker 3: because there's been a tribunal rule change. But George Hewitt
Speaker 3: has got a fine for his punch on Lucky. Now.
Speaker 2: Now, this was an interesting one because it looks like.
Speaker 3: It glances his shoulder and then punches him square in
Speaker 3: the face. Really not with a tremendous amount of force,
Speaker 3: but that's okay for me. To say because I didn't
Speaker 3: get punched in the face. But the new AFL Tribunal
Speaker 3: guideline says that those types of shots can be classified
Speaker 3: as intentional in twenty twenty four and could carry a
Speaker 3: one match ban. Now it won't I can tell you
Speaker 3: it won't for the rest of the season because this
Speaker 3: set the precedent. He punched him in the face, intentional
Speaker 3: or not. It's class as intentional because you shouldn't be punching.
Speaker 3: And whether you like it or you don't, whether you
Speaker 3: think it should be a week or not, the one
Speaker 3: way to stamp it out is to make it a week. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Like players haven't clearly haven't changed their behavior off fines,
Speaker 3: so we might not like to see this be given
Speaker 3: a week, But now it sets the precedent. None moving
Speaker 3: forward from here will get a week because they'll just
Speaker 3: show this vision and they'll go, well, he didn't get
Speaker 3: a week, why should I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's the weather adjudicated kind of the MRO stuff,
Speaker 1: and like you know, whether you're fined or suspended, there's
Speaker 1: like a chart and he goes, you know, heart contact,
Speaker 1: you know, is it you know, did he mean to
Speaker 1: do it? Did he not mean to do it. There's
Speaker 1: like a whole kind of dissection of how it's all
Speaker 1: kind of determined. And yeah, I mean you look at
Speaker 1: this and it's as one as I think you kind
Speaker 1: of like hit him the chest and kind of like
Speaker 1: went up from there, and like, yeah, that sometimes does happen.
Speaker 1: Like someone's like, you know, sweaty, and you sit there
Speaker 1: and you go to like hit him with the palm
Speaker 1: of your hand in the chest and then they like
Speaker 1: move or something at the same time you're like hand
Speaker 1: just kind of slips up. You know. It's I don't
Speaker 1: know much forces in that or them to know how
Speaker 1: much forces into it, but that does kind of happen
Speaker 1: in games whenever you kind of get a bit of
Speaker 1: a scuffle, it can happen. But yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's one of those things
Speaker 1: that AFL is going to crack down on, like all
Speaker 1: the kind of pushing and shoving off ball, all the
Speaker 1: kind of stuff that you know, you see and a
Speaker 1: lot of people enjoy, to be honest with you.
Speaker 3: But when because I know, because now one thing like
Speaker 3: an accidental it would never slip up if you didn't
Speaker 3: throw a punch and he had a clenched fist punched
Speaker 3: him in the shoulder and it slipped up and hit
Speaker 3: him in the face. And the rule change is meant
Speaker 3: to be there to stop this, to stop that punch
Speaker 3: being thrown in the first place, because accidents do happen,
Speaker 3: is it.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing is well, not your closed fists to
Speaker 1: open first? Is that the biggest well.
Speaker 3: To punch Well, if your karate chopped them hit him
Speaker 3: in the face. I think the underlying rule is stop
Speaker 3: trying to like this fake bravado anyway, stop punching or
Speaker 3: like karate chopping.
Speaker 2: Just stop.
Speaker 3: But in general, don't throw a punch and you accidentally
Speaker 3: won't hit someone in the face.
Speaker 2: Pretty simple.
Speaker 1: Nothing should be close first that you're hitting anyone worth.
Speaker 1: To be honest, we've seen people, you know, take all
Speaker 1: the cheap shots here and there, and I think the
Speaker 1: open palm is the way to go about it. You're
Speaker 1: going to hit someone, your open palm use kind of
Speaker 1: like the base of your wrist, right and you kind
Speaker 1: of hit someone in the chest. That's kind of like
Speaker 1: almost like pushing off someone to go lead. And I
Speaker 1: think that's you know, that's what's acceptable. But anything that's
Speaker 1: like close fist like that. You know there's going to
Speaker 1: be ramifications for.
Speaker 3: It, and it could spark a malle Now we don't
Speaker 3: want to be sparking.
Speaker 1: We're really teasing into the next little bit of.
Speaker 3: This to a game that was an absolute car crash
Speaker 3: if you're a Brisbane supporter.
Speaker 2: Brisbane v.
Speaker 3: Carlton up at the GABATOI now they can't win at
Speaker 3: the Gabba or at the MCG which is kind of
Speaker 3: sad for Brisbane fans. Eighty five to eighty six, Carlton
Speaker 3: getting the victory after Brisbane held a demanding commanding leader
Speaker 3: forty seven points up.
Speaker 2: They were mace.
Speaker 1: I went to bed. This was this was a day
Speaker 1: before a game, right of the night before a game.
Speaker 1: I got to halftime. I was like, you know, that's
Speaker 1: just the Gabba and it's the Fortress, and yeah, just
Speaker 1: expect this to kind of be what the you know,
Speaker 1: what the outcome was going to be. And I go
Speaker 1: to breakfast the next morning and everyone's like, you did
Speaker 1: you watch the game? Yeah? I watched half the game.
Speaker 1: They got the gym. How crazy was it? And I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, they really went out to a big
Speaker 1: lead early, and you know, and They're like yeah, and
Speaker 1: then Carlton came back and was able to win by
Speaker 1: Sorry what I was like, what happened? They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Carlton won by point. I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I got so much to catch up on
Speaker 1: what the when the world was going on. So I
Speaker 1: came on to a bit of walk up to a
Speaker 1: bit of a shock, to be honest, But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a credit Tom. Like, it's not an easy place to
Speaker 1: go up there, and when we talked about the fortresses
Speaker 1: and the reason it's named the Fortress and for them
Speaker 1: to be able to the gab Its Fortress, but it's
Speaker 1: it's a tough place to win. Them to come back,
Speaker 1: like we talked about last week, like in the pre
Speaker 1: land that they played at the Carlton was able to
Speaker 1: kick a good score early and like this is kind
Speaker 1: of reversed. They essentially kicked a really good score late.
Speaker 1: So Carlton has a bit of a history of being
Speaker 1: able to play well up there. Well, it's been a
Speaker 1: full game, like hasn't happened yet, but like they've definitely
Speaker 1: shown that they can win a game up there and
Speaker 1: be able to show their best at the Gabba.
Speaker 3: It was a massive win by them because saying that
Speaker 3: what we said last week, going in there was a
Speaker 3: lot of pressure to perform and it was definitely put
Speaker 3: on them by purpose. But they delivered and it didn't
Speaker 3: look like they were going to deliver to come back
Speaker 3: from forty seven points down away from.
Speaker 2: Home on the road.
Speaker 3: Massive, massive win. Sad stories to come out of this, though.
Speaker 3: Kiddeon Coleman ACL now he's one of Brisbane's, if not
Speaker 3: the most important player on the team coming off half backs,
Speaker 3: the ball user, amazing skills by foot, was great in
Speaker 3: the finals last year, great in the Grand Final. Shocking
Speaker 3: to see him go down. He was kind of tackled
Speaker 3: and he leg hyper extended.
Speaker 1: It's right at the half like kind of one of
Speaker 1: those yeah tackle getting kicked at the same time, and
Speaker 1: it's not easy to see because it's one of those
Speaker 1: that's you know, it's just kind of kind of happens,
Speaker 1: and you go, okay, well he's gone down. They're taking
Speaker 1: them down to the rooms and then whenever you see
Speaker 1: kind of like the knee thing, you always you jump
Speaker 1: straight to like worst case right, yeah ACL, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I hope this isn't it. And then
Speaker 1: you get the news yeah, day or so later that
Speaker 1: that's the case, and you know that that means essentially
Speaker 1: the season's over. It's a gut punch to Bill's to know.
Speaker 1: I mean, like even like myself, like to see another
Speaker 1: person who's in the league, who's another player, to see
Speaker 1: that happen to him. It's it's not easy, like you
Speaker 1: just you want the best people playing. You want the
Speaker 1: best people playing at their best to give the best
Speaker 1: kind of entertainment. And whenever people go down with a
Speaker 1: major injury like that, you know they're going to be
Speaker 1: out for a significant amount of time. It's never fun
Speaker 1: to see. It's just it kind of hits you hard
Speaker 1: because you see, you know people have done it, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you know people have gone through the same
Speaker 1: circumstance and had to go through the hard yards to
Speaker 1: come back, and it's it's not an easy feet to do.
Speaker 3: And speaking of Sam Dougherty went down ACL as well,
Speaker 3: two acls in.
Speaker 1: The one game. This was on his good knee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's yeah knee issues in the past. He's
Speaker 3: obviously had a rough road and it was a bit
Speaker 3: more innocuous, like kind of grabbed that had it played
Speaker 3: out the quarter and then got subbed out.
Speaker 1: Were talked about like last week we had I think
Speaker 1: it was like the top five most hated people in
Speaker 1: the AFL. I reckon he's on the opposite of the spectrum.
Speaker 1: I reckon he's the most loved person in the AFL
Speaker 1: because he's such a nice guy. Like I've met a
Speaker 1: few times and done some stuff with him. He's the
Speaker 1: most just humble, like just amazing person you'll ever meet.
Speaker 1: And it's yeah, it was. It was tough to see
Speaker 1: him kind of go down. He strapped it up, and
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, oh, maybe it's not as
Speaker 1: bad as you know, you kind of thought. And whenever
Speaker 1: the news kind of was made public, you're just kind
Speaker 1: of like, oh my gosh, Like, dude, this guy he
Speaker 1: has just been through the ringer and back and you
Speaker 1: just kind of see this next you know, six months
Speaker 1: to a year having to go through it again just sucks.
Speaker 1: It sucks to see. You want to see people like that,
Speaker 1: who you know, haven't you know, I had an easy
Speaker 1: road to with injuries and everything else. Like you want
Speaker 1: to see them be successful, like you want to see them,
Speaker 1: you know, be able to you know, continue to reach
Speaker 1: their goals and everything else. Whenever you have a set
Speaker 1: back like that, it's always tough to see. We wish
Speaker 1: as we stay on this podcast, prayers up.
Speaker 2: Prayers up.
Speaker 3: We're all the best for both Gideon and Sam in
Speaker 3: their recoveries. Another road to redemption. Someone that's copped a
Speaker 3: lot of criticism, oh yeah over the years. But Harry
Speaker 3: McKay came out kicked the match winner shield the game
Speaker 3: went back, kick three to one for the game in
Speaker 3: the end, but you know, just heaped it all up
Speaker 3: on his shoulders, kicked it through Charlie Kerner obviously you
Speaker 3: know a jet as well, kicked four and after the
Speaker 3: game was like, oh well that'll be good now the media,
Speaker 3: can you give poor Harry a break for a week?
Speaker 3: So it's good to see the big fellows up kick
Speaker 3: and go.
Speaker 1: I think like there was there was a lot of
Speaker 1: questions by them going into finals and the pressure and
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff that comes with the media
Speaker 1: that people always talk about. And they're two freak athletes,
Speaker 1: you know, like they're both won calm and medals, like
Speaker 1: they're impressive. You know AFL footballers that are some of
Speaker 1: the best forwards in the league, and you know, there's
Speaker 1: always going to be questions around whether or not they
Speaker 1: gel together and how it would work and all this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But like I know, like I'm calling
Speaker 1: with so I'm suposed to hate Carleton. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I understand it. I understand this works. But you know,
Speaker 1: for all the criticism they've had and for all the
Speaker 1: crap they've had to endure, I actually I am kind of
Speaker 1: happy for them to be successful and kick seven goals
Speaker 1: in that game and bring him back to you know
Speaker 1: what was probably they weren't favored in that game. To
Speaker 1: win that game by one point in a very hostile atmosphere,
Speaker 1: that would be a pretty damn good feeling to have
Speaker 1: for both of them. I can imagine they'd be on
Speaker 1: you know, cloud nine for this week, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: I know it's just to hate them, but I'm kind
Speaker 1: of happy for him at the same time.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it's something that I think most footballers can
Speaker 3: relate to, whether they're under that scrutiny or there's a
Speaker 3: teammate that he's under that scrutiny. And finally there's a
Speaker 3: little pressure valve release because they have a big game
Speaker 3: or whatever. All the boys get around them. It's a
Speaker 3: great feeling. Charlie Cameron kicked two goals, three behind and
Speaker 3: one out in the fall, So he's a bit all
Speaker 3: over the place, but always looked ominous.
Speaker 1: It's always dangerous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it took a few good one on one marks,
Speaker 3: and yeah it looked like he could have taken the
Speaker 3: game away from him. He did have another incident we
Speaker 3: only spoke about this last week where in the Grand
Speaker 3: Final Jeremy how kicked long down the line and Charlie
Speaker 3: came in, got him underneath and got him in the ribs,
Speaker 3: got him good. Well, he had another incident pretty much
Speaker 3: the same thing where he got Mitch McGovern. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: If this will ever be looked at as something more serious,
Speaker 3: and I'm not calling on it to be. I'm just
Speaker 3: saying that if we're looking at players getting hit in
Speaker 3: the head and saying we need to protect players in
Speaker 3: that way, there's got to be something that you know,
Speaker 3: players vulnerable as they're kicking or after they're kicking the ball,
Speaker 3: you can't really come up and just give them internal
Speaker 3: like damage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those things where I think like
Speaker 1: you're obviously not trying to tackle them, no, bomp them
Speaker 1: off the ball. I guess you could consider that, but
Speaker 1: it's not a tackling motion, right, Like, so it's a
Speaker 1: it's just a thing. And for some reason, it seems
Speaker 1: like it's always shorter players that do it. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but but yeah, I think that's one thing
Speaker 1: that AFO probably look at and maybe change the next
Speaker 1: maybe a year or so. I think they'll look at
Speaker 1: that and see kind of the injuries that I've come
Speaker 1: from it, and see the little change and the rules
Speaker 1: that they could do to kind of mitigate that, and
Speaker 1: it'll be a thing They'll probably be taken out of
Speaker 1: the game, i'd say, But as of right now, it's
Speaker 1: still legal. So you know, what can we say, according
Speaker 1: to the laws of the game, you can do it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just not sitting right with me
Speaker 3: at the moment, just seeing where the game has evolved too,
Speaker 3: just having vulnerable players just give it.
Speaker 1: No I mean, like not a single like this is
Speaker 1: just singling out the action, I guess. But you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have players do it. I'm sure other
Speaker 1: the teams will have players do it. Trolie is not
Speaker 1: the only one in the league that does this, you know,
Speaker 1: So I think we're just taking a broader perspective on
Speaker 1: the ruling that is about whenever that happens. And you know,
Speaker 1: it just came to light over the weekend that we
Speaker 1: saw it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good and smart thing to say, Mason,
Speaker 3: because that's exactly the point, was the action, not the person.
Speaker 3: As we jump into the Suns v. Richmond, your boys, the.
Speaker 1: Gold Coast sides, Brandon, you were having a lot of
Speaker 1: faith in them, were you, Well, how'd it go? Well?
Speaker 3: It was fast, score was it was a big final score,
Speaker 3: thirty nine points, ninety nine to sixty. And it was
Speaker 3: an interesting game, to say the least, because they almost said, Carlton,
Speaker 3: how much to come back from forty seven points?
Speaker 2: All right? Hold my beer?
Speaker 3: Because Richmond looked like they were on the comeback because
Speaker 3: at one stage Gold Coast had kicked eleven goals straight
Speaker 3: wild and they were killing them.
Speaker 2: It looked like, you know, doom and gloom. It was I.
Speaker 3: Felt real bad for Richmond. It was like, what is
Speaker 3: happening here? No Dimmer, No Richmond. People were saying, I
Speaker 3: don't know if people were saying that but sounds good.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, Richmond kicked the next
Speaker 3: seven and you're like, where is this going? What's with
Speaker 3: footy this year?
Speaker 2: Already around zero or the other but no Gold Coast.
Speaker 2: They prevailed.
Speaker 3: They kind of held it to there and it just
Speaker 3: peed it out. But there were some big, big performances.
Speaker 3: Ben King, we were talking about him, he had like
Speaker 3: one kick last week?
Speaker 1: Did he have a bag?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he was just stuffing around in the preseason.
Speaker 3: Because he came out and kicked five five goals. We've
Speaker 3: got we do on this podcast. We need to figure
Speaker 3: out what the sound is for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did the crown.
Speaker 1: Did the crime. We'll do the crown the crime for
Speaker 1: King kicking a bag an absolute bag and you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about a preseason people were questioned mirks around
Speaker 1: him and stuff like that, and there goes we're into
Speaker 1: the real shit. Here's five for you. Let me give
Speaker 1: you a bag of him and he's got that go tea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it, oh man, gotta love a bit of character.
Speaker 3: People could pull off the go to I reckon it's
Speaker 3: stone Cold, Steve Austin.
Speaker 1: Stone Cold Steve Austin, Ben King, Ben King, two people
Speaker 1: in this world.
Speaker 2: We got Lukashia's yeah, kick three goals. He looks good.
Speaker 2: He's just a fort h he's a Ford.
Speaker 3: And we got Maddy cow Oh he was he was
Speaker 3: out there. I'll tell you what he was eating. He
Speaker 3: was eating Richmond up for King dinner, Mace because he
Speaker 3: had thirty three Toucheseah twenty clearances, twenty.
Speaker 1: Clearance, twenty clearances.
Speaker 2: He gets twenty clearances. He's out.
Speaker 1: That's insane, Like he's we all know he's a good player.
Speaker 1: There's no question like around that. And he's It's good
Speaker 1: to see him because obviously, like I said, a big
Speaker 1: Gold Coast fan. So if we can get him too, Owen,
Speaker 1: get Witzy in there, just feeding it. Torm oh my
Speaker 1: signs top eight saying top eight this year.
Speaker 3: You know who else was up there and the full
Speaker 3: Gold Coast kit was Dustin Martin sitting in crowd, dust
Speaker 3: in full gold Coast Yeah, head to toes, hanging out
Speaker 3: in the crowd.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Someone what do you mean?
Speaker 3: Someone brought a cutout of dust and fully decked out
Speaker 3: in the Gold Coast suns.
Speaker 1: Kid.
Speaker 2: Very good. See that's playful, it's good.
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: That's some playful banter that we can all get around.
Speaker 3: But yeah, massive, now it's it's set up for storylines
Speaker 3: coming out of this. Dimmer can get anyone playing well.
Speaker 3: He deserves all the praise. Three time Premiership coach, back
Speaker 3: to back to back, you stop the four peet. But
Speaker 3: now he goes up there and he's just he just
Speaker 3: gets them firing. I'll tell you one person that's going
Speaker 3: to be pissed off. It's Chewy jew Oh my god.
Speaker 3: He couldn't get him cranking at all, and then they
Speaker 3: come out and absolutely ragged Old Richmond. You'd be like,
Speaker 3: I tried everything, I tried, yelling at your, abusing your
Speaker 3: and do.
Speaker 1: It like a bike up to Mount Everest. Matt he
Speaker 1: could have done. We'll give him that.
Speaker 3: He gave it one hundred and ten percent. They just
Speaker 3: couldn't get them firing for whatever reason. But you know,
Speaker 3: Dimmer goes up there. It might be that sugar hit
Speaker 3: that they're all was talking about. I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: If you I.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be more scared of Dimmer than I am of
Speaker 3: of Stewart, Jo, You couldn't be more scared.
Speaker 1: I'd be. Yeah, I'd be more scared of Steward deal.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, was like he's just a people's person.
Speaker 1: I feel like a little bit, you know, like he's
Speaker 1: one of the people you look at and he's.
Speaker 3: Like dim sells some of this stuff. I reckon, he's
Speaker 3: on the same stuff that Russ Lion's.
Speaker 1: Onst He's invested.
Speaker 3: He's invested in some of the CBS. He's in the reefer.
Speaker 3: He's interesting, he's in the reef. McGinnis up there and yeah,
Speaker 3: so he had a big win and then it flips
Speaker 3: on Adam muse new coach. I did love one time
Speaker 3: when they were trying to find an excuse for Richmond.
Speaker 3: They're trying to find can't you got to give them something?
Speaker 3: This is when they were down. It was like one
Speaker 3: point to eighty and they're like, oh, well, to be fair,
Speaker 3: you know, Richmond, they got to adapt to the new
Speaker 3: game plan, new coach. Like it can't be can't be easy,
Speaker 3: it's always difficult, Like what's dimmer?
Speaker 2: What's dimmer? Is he not a new coach, new game plan?
Speaker 3: They're both new coaches, new game plan and one team's
Speaker 3: out there kicking ass and the other team just trying
Speaker 3: to stay positive, right positive. On the broadcast regions, sometimes
Speaker 3: they just say things Mace. Now, we'll get up to that.
Speaker 3: But that was that's the first half. Yeah a podcast.
Speaker 1: I think there's one more game we might go into, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then we've got also the preview to round one.
Speaker 1: We're over round zero, we're into round one. We've got
Speaker 1: the preview of that and much much more on the
Speaker 1: other side of this