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Speaker 1: My name is Lily Madden and I'm a proud Adunda

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: and it is finally the first of February.

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Speaker 3: I'm Zara, I'm Billy.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't heard from Billy, she is our wonderful editor.

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Speaker 2: This is her first episode back this year. How are

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. I feel like you've basically had

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Speaker 4: the whole team on the pod this week between Daniel Tom.

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Speaker 2: We're just shifting through the array of team. It's fabulous.

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Speaker 4: In today's Deep Dive, we will be discussing Tyrie Nichols,

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Speaker 4: who is a twenty nine year old black man who

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Speaker 1: Graphic footage has been released of police officers in the

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Speaker 3: A beating that defies humanity. That is how an encounter

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Speaker 2: Five former police officers in Memphis is being described.

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Speaker 4: Over the weekend, tens of thousands took to the streets

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Speaker 2: We're going to look at what we know so far

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Speaker 2: in the deep dive, but first, Billy, can you take

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Speaker 4: as New Zealand's Prime Minister. Hipkins was elected unopposed as

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Speaker 4: Now, jes aheads before we get into today's deep dive.

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Speaker 4: The death of Tyree Nichols is a distressing story, but

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Speaker 4: we feel that it is important to tell, but just

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Speaker 4: so you know what to expect exactly. While there is

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Speaker 4: some pretty distressing footage that has emerged of Tyree being beaten,

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Speaker 4: we will describe what happened. So if you don't feel

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Speaker 2: Tyree Nichols, a twenty nine year old black man, died

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Speaker 2: pulled over by police on January seven. Billy, can you

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Speaker 2: When I've been reading about this story, a lot of

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Speaker 2: One thing that struck me when you were going through

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Speaker 2: The protests that were seeing feel reminiscent of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: Record, and that is after the Black Lives Matter movement,

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Speaker 2: and that is after this national conversation about police brutality.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, that's after the death of George Floyd in

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Speaker 2: I think something to end on here is that what's

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Speaker 2: that in Australia First Nations people are disproportionately incarcerated and

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Speaker 2: is an ongoing story in Victoria that will be covering

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Speaker 2: on the Pod this week that examines that very issue. Billy,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much for jumping on the pod today. A

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Speaker 2: really serious topic and, as I said, one that we

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Speaker 2: will be discussing time and time again. Thanks for having me,

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