1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Now let's head across right now, a real change of pace. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: And joining us on the line is Alan Wu, the 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Aviation Development Manager at the Airport Development Group. Good morning 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: to you Allan, Good morning Katie. Great to have you 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: on the show now. Alan, we know yesterday Virgin Australia 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: that new route between Adelaide and dal and a touchdown. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: How did it all go? 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it went well. It's amazing to have all three 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: carriers operating, all three mainline carriers operating on that route 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: and giving choice. And now the territories have a choice 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: to leave either midday or around around dinner time, so 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: you know, leave work at four twenty one, then you're 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: in on Flinders Street in time for late dinner. 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: And what does it mean in terms of the number 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: of number of seats per week that we've actually got 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: now to Adelaide. 17 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: So it is an increase of about five to six 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: in seats per week. And so what that means is 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: about fifteen to twenty percent increase in available seats compared 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: to August the last month. 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: And Alan, I've no doubt that you know that this 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: is a really positive move in terms of increasing that capacity, 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: but in terms of enabling Territorians to travel away to 24 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: South Australia to see their family or to go on 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: a holiday. Again. 26 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, it's just more access to the hotspots down 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: in South Australia like Kangaroo Island and Brassa Valley. And 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: it was unique and this is quite quite common for 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: in the first week of operations is versions offering a 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: great one way fair, so as low as one hundred 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: and nineteen dollars and I dare say you'll never see 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: a fair that low again. 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is very cheap, and especially when you compare 34 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: it to how expensive it is in some cases to 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: to go to other locations Alan. How much of a 36 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: juggle is it for the Airport Development Group at this 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: point in time with the different lockdowns happening in other states? 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: So I know that obviously we've got two of our 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: major markets at the moment in lockdown in Victoria and 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: also in New South Wales. How much of a juggle 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: is it for you to sort of be able to 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: make sure that there are still different locations around Australia 43 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: where people can travel to. 44 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: What we've seen is the demand for travel domestically has 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: rebound quite quickly when the hotspots are lifted and so 46 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: our focus is on maintaining and even growing and the 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: evidence of it that the definitions and where there is 48 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: free travel and look, I'm confident that once the restrictions 49 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: have eased in Victoria, Act and New South Wales that 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: demand will bounce back quite quickly as well. 51 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: How are you going at the airport at the moment 52 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to you know that capacity and what 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: we're operating. 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: At definitely lower than pre COVID. But in terms of 55 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: our comparing ourselves to other Australian ports, we are doing 56 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: quite well. We're we've proven have quite a robust aviation 57 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: sector and driven off by a lot of the fly 58 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: flile traffic that that that is requiring the need for travel. Still, 59 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: so when we look at our market compared to other 60 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: or are specifically our business market compared to other markets, 61 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: is that you can't fix a piece of mining equipment 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: over a zoom call. So that you know that propping 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: up and keeping some of our demand and our capacity 64 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: in the market and are you having to. 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: Be pretty agile in the sense that you know, like 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: you said, some of those different locations I in New 67 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: South Wales and Victoria right now are in the situation 68 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: that they're in. But you know, once things do sort 69 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: of change and those lockdowns lift and those hot spots left, 70 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: it seems as though you guys have got to be 71 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: pretty fast then in making sure that you know that 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: there are that there are flights available for territorians or 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: for people in those locations to be able to get 74 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: here to the territory. 75 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly Ryan. So it's when you say agiles, 76 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 2: it's very much an agile the discussion with the airlines 77 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: and the airport. So there for us as we're managing 78 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 2: our infrastructure and our slots and our available capacity, and 79 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: the airlines are making decisions much quicker than they ever 80 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: have before. So in both in both manners, so when 81 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: there's a hot spot declared that the capacity generally stays 82 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: on immediately because there's a high demand for people to 83 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 2: get back home. But then on on the flip side 84 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: and where we're in it recently with Darwin with the 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: launch of Canbra Darwin and in this case to Adelaide 86 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: that the decision maker from the airlines is very very 87 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: quick and typically the the the lea time from announcement 88 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: of a new route to its actually commencing is many 89 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: many weeks, where in this case is a handful of 90 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: weeks for this route. 91 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: And Alan, are you and I spoke not too long 92 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: ago about that possibility of a London Darwin direct flight 93 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: you just touched on Canberra. Then we know that you 94 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: know the increased capacity here for Adelaide as well as 95 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: something that was that was announced yesterday. Are there any 96 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: other sort of new routes or any other new locations 97 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: that we could be able to fly direct to from 98 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: Darwin at some point in the near future on the cards. 99 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: The opportunities are in front of us. Certainly that from 100 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: our perspective, we're starting to see it. Later then the 101 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: Tunnel wants to get more understanding of government decisions on 102 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: free movement of travel. We see that agility that we 103 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: mentioned before from the airlines that will translate into new 104 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: new routes. We're working very hard on seeing that to 105 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: become a reality for Darwin. So not sure where those 106 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: could be, but there is very dependent on a lot 107 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: of moving factors at the moment. So you know, our 108 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: our free movement to travel, and then other countries you 109 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: know free movement to travel as well, So it's really 110 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: identifying where there was where there's alignments between the two regions. 111 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh Alan, good stuff. Good to catch up with 112 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: you this morning. And that's certainly good news I reckon 113 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: for top enders or for us here in the Northern Territory, 114 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: I will too fly will that increased capacity, I think 115 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: for Adelaide to Darwin, it's it's certainly a good thing. 116 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: So we really appreciate you coming on the show this 117 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: morning and having a bit of a chat about it. 118 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, and have a good rest of your day, 119 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: Kittie you two. 120 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: That's Alan Wu there, the Aviation Development manager out at 121 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: the airport Development