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Speaker 1: Well on the weekend, Labor absolutely smashed the Coalition to

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Speaker 1: Luke Gosling had a close race with the CLP's Lisa Baylist,

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Speaker 1: for a record fourth term. Luke Gosling joins me in

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Speaker 1: the studio. Good morning and.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thanks so much, Katie.

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Speaker 1: Mate. How did you feel as those results started to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, you know, you get a feeling kind

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Speaker 2: Of never never shirk from it. But I think at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, people know that it's a

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Speaker 2: we've got a system of preferences. Whilst I didn't get

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Speaker 2: you know, Luke's part of Albow's team. Elbow cares about

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Speaker 1: There was that swing. I mean, obviously on those primary

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think like it's easy for an independent to

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Speaker 1: Resid fantastically well in Lingiaria where.

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Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you about that. Are you

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Speaker 1: So all that I'm assuming you're putting a putting you

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Speaker 2: Look, it's a difficult it's a difficult balance and I

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Speaker 2: And what sometimes happens as well, as you know, people

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Speaker 2: and then they decide in this coming term that they

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Speaker 2: want to leave, and then that creates other vacancies and

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Speaker 2: opportunities as well. So it's a bit of a wait

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Speaker 1: Look, I do want to ask you before I let

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Speaker 1: you go this morning. Obviously you touched on the Darwin port.

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Speaker 1: We know work's happening on that. There's not a timeline

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Speaker 1: you and I'll speak further about that. But what about

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Speaker 1: this youth hub.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to get the youth hup gone. I

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Speaker 2: mean apparently Jins and Charles is the person that's Look,

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Speaker 2: Industry has been very clear and I think maybe wearrn't

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Speaker 2: even on your program. Yeah, so industry has been clear

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Speaker 2: in the advantages of having it at the site. That's

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Speaker 2: been prepared and his shovel ready has had the design

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Speaker 1: Which is in which is at Casarina fire Station, but

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Speaker 1: around that area is what they want.

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Speaker 2: I think the Casina fire Station being ready to go

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Speaker 2: having the design work done makes sense, and that's certainly

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Speaker 2: what Casina Square is hoping for, but around that area

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Speaker 2: also makes a lot of sense. Look, I'm really hoping

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Speaker 2: there's an announcement soon, and the same with Scott Palmer

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Speaker 2: Center for homeless or veterans that are risk of homelesses

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Speaker 2: and first responders. That needs to happen. I've been talking

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Speaker 2: to the Chief Minister about that in Marra there. But

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Speaker 2: these are projects where the federal funds are already there

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Speaker 2: and just waiting for a decision from the NT government.

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Speaker 2: I understand with an election maybe that I want to

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Speaker 2: come out and make it Gosling look good because he's delivering.

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Speaker 2: But I have delivered the cash for these things that

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Speaker 2: happen that are needed in the community. So let's go.

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Speaker 1: So let's make it happen. All right, Lou Gosling, we

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Speaker 1: better leave it there. We've got combat scarlets. He's going

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Speaker 1: to be knocking on the door, ready to come up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you as always for your time. Again, congratulations on

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Speaker 1: the win.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Katie, thank you,