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Speaker 1: Pleased to say that.

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Speaker 2: Joining me in the studio, City of Darwin CEO Simone Saunders.

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Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Simone, morning Katie.

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Speaker 2: Been a very busy few days for you guys post cyclone.

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Speaker 2: Feena talk us through where things are at with the facilities.

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Speaker 2: What's now opened.

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Speaker 3: Look, our buildings and facilities are slowly coming back online

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Speaker 3: and we've had the parrap Pool is open. Casuarina Pool

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Speaker 3: also opens yesterday and I'm pleased to say that Nightcliff

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Speaker 3: Pool will open.

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Speaker 1: Today, So it's going to open today, will be back open.

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Speaker 3: Our community centers are open, our libraries are open, our

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Speaker 3: general facilities are also open. What we're still working through

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Speaker 3: is the next priority at the moment is our sporting ovals.

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Speaker 3: Kids and adults want to get back to sport and

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Speaker 3: we've still got work to do to get those ovals

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Speaker 3: safe and up and up to speed. And also one

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Speaker 3: of our community center, unfortunately Lions, had a massive tree

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Speaker 3: fall on the roof, so that won't be open. It

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Speaker 3: is going to be structural damage and tree removal. So

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Speaker 3: we really ask anybody that books that facility just be patient.

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Speaker 3: We'll offer other facilities as we can, but that's still closed.

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Speaker 2: In terms of some of those big, massive trees, Like

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Speaker 2: I know we've had a lot of discussion like, oh,

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Speaker 2: it's business as usual, let's get back into things. But

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Speaker 2: the fact is it's kind of hard to get back

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Speaker 2: to business as usual for a lot of it. So

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Speaker 2: I know there's still people without power. I've still got

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Speaker 2: a tree, you know, a massive tree in my yard.

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Speaker 2: I know there's like you've just touched on, there's council

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Speaker 2: facilities with trees still.

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Speaker 1: On top of them.

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Speaker 2: But there's also some massive trees on roadstea.

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Speaker 3: And I think this narrative potentially that on Monday we

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Speaker 3: go back into offices were in that space. But it's

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Speaker 3: definitely not from a broader perspective. And where I say

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Speaker 3: that is that it's not business as usual for finance

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Speaker 3: officers that are sitting in emergency operations centers both within

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Speaker 3: the Northern Churchard government or City of Darwin invoices still

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Speaker 3: coming in their normal job and they've still got to

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Speaker 3: do that. For kids that haven't been able to access

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Speaker 3: it's not business as usual and it's not definitely not

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Speaker 3: business as usual for our concrete team that aren't doing

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Speaker 3: foot paths at the moment, they're clearing debrian roads.

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Speaker 1: And helping to remove green waste and trees.

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Speaker 3: So I think from a community perspective, this cleanup will

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Speaker 3: take the City of Darwin will take months and we

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Speaker 3: really ask for that patience. We'll work through prioritized systems,

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Speaker 3: but it is it was a Cat three cyclone, the

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Speaker 3: biggest one that we've had since Tracy and whilst the

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Speaker 3: tree damage is definitely not cyclone Marcus. City of Darwin's

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Speaker 3: just got some stats and numbers now we've been working

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Speaker 3: with the CSRO to ascertain what we've got. We've got

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Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy thousand tons of green waste to

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Speaker 2: Just is that just council greenways, That is.

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Speaker 1: Just council green waste.

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Speaker 3: We have seven hundred and thirty foot paths and walkways

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Speaker 3: to clear, four hundred and seventy five kilometers of roads,

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Speaker 3: we have. The cleanup is huge and I think when

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Speaker 2: But there's also some huge tree still down, you know.

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Speaker 1: So no doubt there is.

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Speaker 2: Going to be a little bit more disruption overcoming days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there definitely will be so off the road work

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Speaker 3: Every single contractor and resource in Darwin is out.

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Speaker 3: We had three trucks out yesterday with contractors. So I

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Speaker 1: We have one hundred and seventy thousand tons of.

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Speaker 3: Green waste to move, and that's why that Hidden Valley

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Speaker 3: But we need that facility to process and to get

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Speaker 2: The crety of Darwin's corped a bit of stick over

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So the closure of schol Bay to the public

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Speaker 3: the moment with that facility. Though, it did open to

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Speaker 3: What it's not open for is green waste. So green

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Speaker 3: the reason for that is on site at shel Bay,

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Speaker 3: we can cope with two and a half thousand tons

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Speaker 2: So following on from Cyclo markets, this is obviously something

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Speaker 2: totally understand that that's something though, so who stands that

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Speaker 3: No, so that's the Northern Territory Government's responsibility. In their plan,

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Speaker 3: Terretary Government, and the Northern Territory Government can claim for

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Speaker 3: very specific. For instance, what councils can do, we can

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Speaker 3: That on Monday, there was one hundred and ten skip

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Speaker 2: So I mean, are we at the point now? Like

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Speaker 2: and Katie, we're happy to put our skip bins out.

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Speaker 2: Is that something that is being now looked into?

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Speaker 1: But what is being looked into?

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Speaker 3: And I've still got to get in touch with that person,

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Speaker 2: You've had a lot of people contactors that are seeing

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Speaker 2: what's going to be the process here? I mean, are

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Speaker 3: But what the messaging that I've been saying is that

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Speaker 3: For doing that, and the teams went to some neighborhoods

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Speaker 3: It's not unable to bring it off the private property. However,

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Speaker 3: working with any other I mean, we're providing resources too

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Speaker 1: We need to get the schools and playgrounds clear. We

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Speaker 3: So there will be waste on your verge in certain

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. Well, we certainly know that a couple

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Speaker 2: is something that you know, if there is still stuff

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Speaker 2: sort of not hearing that this time round.

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Speaker 1: No, and I don't think we are.

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Speaker 3: But I think the question to the Northern Territory Government

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Speaker 3: you put one hundred and ten skip bins out. The

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Speaker 3: funding flows to the Northern Territory government in an emergency.

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Speaker 3: You are the Northern Terretory Government is the agency and

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Speaker 1: So how are they going to do that to assist residence?

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Speaker 2: So they could actually get some funding here from the

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Speaker 2: potentially from the vergers to get the skip bins going.

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Speaker 3: That they could, but I think but at the moment

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Speaker 1: So we don't want to both be in the same space.

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Speaker 3: But if they did want to do skip bins, there

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Speaker 3: might be other challenges that come with skip bins with

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Speaker 3: you know what type of waste you end up we're

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Speaker 1: We just want the.

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Speaker 3: Green waste, But that would be a decision for the

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like there's going to be some more

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Speaker 2: it's just getting through that real emergency management of what's

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Speaker 2: like you said, the sporting grounds and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and we just need to keep those priorities.

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Speaker 3: The Emergency Operations Center is open, so there's a number

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Speaker 3: that you can call it's on all the media and

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Speaker 3: of dum And Emergency Operations Center, and we encourage people

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Speaker 3: and it's all being categorized in a prioritize system. We

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Speaker 3: things will take time.

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Speaker 2: Someone, I know this is not one for you, but

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Speaker 2: I've just said. Somebody comment and say, Katie, insurers won't

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Speaker 2: They won't. They won't cover you for that removal to

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Speaker 2: help out with some of that stuff that they might

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Speaker 3: Look, I think with you, different insurance if you get

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Speaker 3: a contractor in I know on my insurance that would

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Speaker 3: check check the details and I can't comment on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but Citty of Darwin is doing an amazing job and

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Speaker 1: We are at full capacity at the moment.

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Speaker 3: If the NTG wants to step up and do additional stuff,

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Speaker 3: Like I said, we really appreciate Hidden Valley is a

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Speaker 3: we'll also welcome that provided works for the municipality.

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Speaker 2: So either skip bins or you know, further verge removal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if they can get contractors as well, because we'll

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that would be ideal.

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Speaker 3: If we can get more trucks on the street moving

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Speaker 2: But is the reality here at the moment from council's

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Speaker 3: No, our contractors are fully utilized at the moment. We

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Speaker 3: The verge removal will happen, but it will just take

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Simone Saunders, the CEO of the City

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine how it would feel, you know, if

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Speaker 2: does sound as though all of the councils are trying

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Speaker 3: No, and my last thing is again and a big

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Speaker 3: shout out to all the City of Darwin teams you

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Speaker 3: with over not only pre cyclone, but Post and all

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Speaker 3: like I said, doing an amazing job to support the community.

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Speaker 2: Simone Saunders, thanks so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Katie,