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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.

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Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just

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Speaker 2: answers Now.

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Speaker 3: Well, Kylie, last night we finally, we finally got to

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Speaker 3: see what I've been getting so excited about for I

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Speaker 3: feel like it's been a year now. It has been

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Speaker 3: season two of Bradle Guidance. Episode one. It was on

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Speaker 3: the TV channel nine. If you missed it, watch out.

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Speaker 3: There are spoilers all through this podcast episode. You can

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Speaker 3: catch up on the nine now app. Hopefully, though, you

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Speaker 3: got to see it, and we're going to talk about

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Speaker 3: it a lot in this podcast episode.

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Speaker 4: Kylie, first question for you, first impressions of the show.

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Speaker 3: You've just watched an episode. How are you feeling? That

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Speaker 3: was a longer pause I was expecting.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to work out how to put it all

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Speaker 2: into the.

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Speaker 3: Succinct few words even told you I was going to

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Speaker 3: ask this question.

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Speaker 2: I am completely and utterly in.

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Speaker 5: Awe of these families who have literally open themselves up

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Speaker 5: to the nation so that we can have these really

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Speaker 5: important conversations.

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Speaker 4: So brave, really brave, and they're good families.

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Speaker 3: Right, Let's be clear, They've they've gone through psychological testing

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Speaker 3: and so on to make sure that They're robust and

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Speaker 3: can take the pressure of doing this.

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Speaker 4: They are good families.

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Speaker 2: I am confronted and deeply challenged by the role I

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Speaker 2: play in my children's lives and the need to protect them.

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Speaker 2: And I'm riveted. Yeah, I want to see the next

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Speaker 2: episode now.

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Speaker 4: I want to pick up on what you just said.

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Speaker 3: This desire to protect Watching last night's episode just creates

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Speaker 3: every instinctive, impulsive what do I need to do to

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Speaker 3: keep my kids safe kind of thing, doesn't, I like,

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Speaker 3: just blows it up in a couple of different ways.

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Speaker 4: Great parents some really interesting challenges.

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Speaker 3: We started nice and softly with the photo shoot, but

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Speaker 3: then we got to know the families as well, so

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Speaker 3: we had the Lighthouse parents.

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Speaker 1: Light House parenting is about arming our children with tools

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Speaker 1: to make good decisions in life when we're not able

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Speaker 4: We have the out black parents, black parents.

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Speaker 3: The kids get to learn so many lives skills that

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Speaker 3: other people just never learned.

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Speaker 2: The honest parent, honest parenting is not holding back.

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Speaker 4: I'm very brutally honest, and the gentle the gentle parents.

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Speaker 6: Gentle parenting is about letting children be children and respecting

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Speaker 3: And I mean everyone has the moment to shine, and

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Speaker 3: everyone also has their flaws and foibles exposed to the nation.

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Speaker 2: That's what I love about the show because it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's showing us the realness of family life. You know,

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Speaker 2: in so many ways, we have these massive wins and

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Speaker 2: with an absolute doozy where we just feel like we've

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, as I watched this, there are probably

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Speaker 3: two really big things to talk about, and I don't

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Speaker 3: But let me ask you, what would your things be

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Speaker 3: that we should be covering off today.

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Speaker 2: Well, one, we would be talking about online safety, like yes, holy.

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Speaker 4: Smile, like half the episode and it.

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Speaker 2: Was there a single eye in the house that was

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Speaker 2: I was like, I did notice you handed the box

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Speaker 2: But I think the other thing that really kind of

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Speaker 1: We are literally on the beach, so the beach has

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Speaker 4: Jase, can you see the kids, let's going for a

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Speaker 1: We are outnumbered so we can't focus all our attention

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Speaker 3: But today let's talk about the online safety stuff. If

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Speaker 3: you missed it, here's what happened.

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Speaker 7: So parents, we challenged you to give your kids an

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Speaker 7: hour to play an online game popular amongst primary school children.

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Speaker 7: The aim of the game is to trade with other

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Speaker 7: players to get better items, and the trading relies on interactions.

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Speaker 7: If you don't chat, you don't progress. We wanted to

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Speaker 7: see what they did when a stranger approached them to

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Speaker 7: replicate a real world situation. The stranger was an actor

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Speaker 1: Give Pepper one hour of screen time to play online game.

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Speaker 1: As Lighthouse parents, we probably give our kids a lot

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Speaker 1: So my friends play it, and I sometimes play at

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Speaker 6: Your online name is Pizza and you're trying to establish

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Speaker 4: Her name's Lilly, she says, her name's Pepper.

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Speaker 6: That's information she shouldn't be giving out. She's taught me.

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Speaker 4: I something's already. She's being very open with you.

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Speaker 6: Ask if she knows the local shopping center.

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Speaker 4: She says she does.

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Speaker 6: Okay, keep building the relationship. See if she'd like to

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, she said yes.

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Speaker 3: So we saw this happen, and in some ways, the

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Speaker 3: light House family kind of dodged a bullet, if I

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Speaker 2: You know, she was actually really excited that she made friends.

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Speaker 2: Like she legitimately came to and said, I had a

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Speaker 2: Without the visual she said that that just sends she

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so much.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was great. How some of the kids

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Speaker 3: they totally lied. And this is a really important idea,

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Speaker 3: right because if your kids are taught that they have

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Speaker 4: Great idea to use the name Elizabeth.

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Speaker 6: See if you can convince him to tell you his

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Speaker 4: She tell me her name Elizabeth. Brilliant, genius.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that it wasn't just another male name,

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Speaker 3: What I love about this is obviously really scary, a

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Speaker 4: Let's meet up at the shops.

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Speaker 2: But her saving grace was just how innocent she was

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Speaker 3: She walked straight and said I made a friend, and

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Speaker 3: that's the thing that saves her right. Yeah, But the

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Speaker 3: imploruse of the conversation, I mean, just wow, we had

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Speaker 3: And I reckon there's great.

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Speaker 2: I think our kids know who's safe or not. And

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Speaker 6: You could try a different approach, maybe change your avatar

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Speaker 6: to be similar, try a boy based avatar. Becoming similar

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Speaker 6: might make it easier to a stylish a relationship.

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Speaker 4: Go far away. He's fast right here, he won't get

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Speaker 6: It doesn't look like he's very familiar with the game.

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Speaker 6: A typical offender would probably move on by now to

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Speaker 4: Haha. Think you can form al fly away from here.

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Speaker 2: You look at their age though as much younger. They're

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Speaker 2: much younger, and avoidance was a very clever attack totally,

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Speaker 2: but it was obviously even, you know, seeing like they

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Speaker 6: Maybe take a guess on what stage she's in and

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Speaker 6: To build a relationship based on commonalities. Maybe pull up

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Speaker 6: down where she is. Search for family friendly restaurants in

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Speaker 2: Ah, what's all this?

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Speaker 4: That's not my text, that's other people. So you haven't

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Speaker 4: None of you can beat me up anymore than I'm

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Speaker 4: Everyone feels for you right now.

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Speaker 2: I just ask you, what did it feel like being

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Speaker 4: It was it was just so emotional.

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Speaker 2: You were emotional. I saw that ice cream.

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Speaker 4: She almost couldn't breathe.

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Speaker 3: She was so distressed by what had happened, and cut

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Speaker 3: that with the fact that her daughter a led about

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Speaker 4: This is where the danger lies, Kylie.

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Speaker 3: This is where the dangel lies, because the kids do

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Speaker 3: tell us, which gets them into We have in more trouble,

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Speaker 3: not necessarily with us, but with people who have bad

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Speaker 4: We can't protect them if we don't know.

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Speaker 3: so that we can debrief around that. Kylie, we need

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Speaker 2: I think as a parent, I've always felt like if

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Speaker 3: So we just generally don't let our kids, especially our

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Speaker 3: here are my tips. Can I dive into a couple.

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Speaker 3: Number One, We've got to make sure that we talk

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to do a couple of other practical things,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the devastating reality. You get to see it

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Speaker 3: like I said, we'll talk to Detective Superintendent Jane Crossling

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Speaker 2: She shared some numbers. Yeah, twenty two thousand reports a year,

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Speaker 3: Really really important conversation. We hope that you're loving parental guidance.

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Speaker 3: We hope that this podcast is a nice supplement to it.

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