1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Great per flick with Beno. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Well, Ben, we've all been looking forward to this because 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: we're all a bit parochial. 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: And this was filmed in yelling At. It was a 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Everybody will remember Nicholas Cage flew 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: into Perth Airport and it's fair to say Western Australia 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: lost its mind. Certainly the media did. We We papped 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Nick Cage everywhere he went. He went to a I 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: G A I think in Bustleton on the way down 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: to yelling Up. He had his wife and his little 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: kid with him. He bought a bag of oranges, if 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: I remember correctly. 13 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: They followed him into A and A. 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: You know the as ye were followed him, We followed 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: him there he was. We got pictures of him going 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: for a surf as preparing for the movie. We took 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: pictures of him walking through the bush in a wetsuit, 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: whether whether he wanted it or not, and look like 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: remember bring back to that time. I can say categorically 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: this is a bit of behind the scenes information for everybody. 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: So I can tell you categorically that the producers were 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: not happy. I got a call from one of them 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: at one point I didn't have anything to do with 24 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: the coverage personally, but I had a relationship with the 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: with the producers and they said, look, you got to 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: try and do something here because Nicholas Cage is going 27 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: to leave Western Australia. 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: He's going to He was very he was always very polite, 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: very polite, you know the situation and when people met him, 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: he was very courteous, happy to have a chat, but 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: the very private guy. 32 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: But they got the movie made in the end, that's 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: the important thing. And so it's a real throwback to 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: a previous era of Australian filmmaking that some listeners will 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: be familiar with. It's called osploidation or the Australian New Wave, 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: and it was around about the nineteen early nineteen seventies 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: when the R rating first came into a movie classification 38 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: in Australia. So it just allowed us to make different 39 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: types of movies than what we will make before nineteen 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: seventy one. Mad Max Goes to the Beach yep, exactly, 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: and yep, totally like Mad Max is one of those 42 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: films from that era. Wake in Fright, Alvin Purple, Yep, 43 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of those movies that were made 44 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: in the seventies early eighties, and all of them were 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: kind of like some sun baked movies set in the 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Australian our back very Oz Jack Thompson. Jack Thompson was 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: in half of them, Brian Brown was in the other half. 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: And movie like Waken Fright is a good example that 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: is probably the closest to it's a classic closest to 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: this particular film where You Got the You Got you know, 51 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 1: the main character played by Nicholas Cage, who's an unnamed 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: character so you never know what his name is. He 53 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: has lived in America for a number of years, but 54 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: he's coming back to this coastal town where he grew 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: up in and his dream is to surf the surf 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: break that he did when he was a boy and 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: buy his childhood home, which is perched up on top 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: of the cliff in this town, overlooking the beach. It's 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: the primo house, primo house in this town. And so 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: he wants to do that and get his life back 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: on track after he's kind of, you know, gone off 62 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 1: the rails a little bit. But standing in the way 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: of fulfilling that dream is a group of local surfers 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: called the Bay Boys, and they are so parochial in 65 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: protecting their local surf break, so locals only, they say, 66 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: and any interloper that comes in trying to serve their breaks, 67 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: basically they'll threaten to bash them. But get out of here. 68 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: You don't live here, don't surf here is their mono 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: away and exactly very brah boys. And so along comes 70 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: Nicholas Caseon, even though he grew up in this town. 71 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: Now he sounds like a sepo, so they don't see 72 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: him as a local and they just tell him to 73 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: rack off. But he's but he's he's very stubborn. He's 74 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: very stubborn. He's waiting for the for the call from 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: his mortgage broker to come through with the finance on 76 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: this house, and so he refuses to leave the beach 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: car parks. It's perched up on a hill overlooking the 78 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: overlooking the ocean and the surf break, so he can 79 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: look down and see these bay boys and what they're 80 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: up to. But he's there in his kind of lexus, 81 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: waiting for this call from his mortgage broker. And he 82 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: stays there for a couple of days, and he's getting 83 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: sun burnt and his phone's run out of battery, and 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: he's running out of food and water, and he's having 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: to drink water out of the you know, sort of 86 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: the public toilet block, which is maybe not so healthy, 87 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: and so things start to unravel for him as this happens. 88 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: It becomes a bit of a psychological thriller as he 89 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: engages in this conflict with the Bay Boys. And as 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: an audience member, you're watching it, and you're going and 91 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: because it's Nick Cage as well, and look, if you 92 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: need someone to really sort of flirt that line between 93 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, sort of being with it and being a 94 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: total looney, Nick Cage is your guy. And so as 95 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: an audience, you're watching and you going, is this actually 96 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: happening or is this all in his head? Is he 97 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: just got sunstroke? And so it starts to get a 98 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: bit surreal. And so the director, Irish director Lorcine Finnegan, 99 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: who I don't know if people saw the film from 100 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Vivarium, which had Jesse Eisenberg 101 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: and Image and Poots, that was a trippy, trippy movie. 102 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: And so that'll give you a sense of how trippy 103 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: this film gets as well. And Honestly, that's probably where 104 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: it does go off the rails a little bit. You 105 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: kind of when you've got Nicholas Cage and you bring 106 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: him to Yelling Up and you've got what is basically 107 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: a pretty good, simple story, you maybe don't need some 108 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: of those surreal of you know, sort of affectations around 109 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: the edges. They kind of take you out of the 110 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: drama a little bit. But one of the great things 111 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: about this film is that is the villain of the piece, 112 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: the leader of the Bay Boys. He's sort of a 113 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: masculinity guru who sort of takes these classes to help 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: men rediscover their sort of masculinity in this modern world. 115 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Played by Julian mcmah Oh my gosh, I tell you what. 116 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: He has aged like a fine wine. He's got a fade. 117 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: He's that plastic exactly. 118 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: But I was watching him. I was watching him in 119 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: the Fantastic Four movie, which must be I don't even know, 120 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: fifteen years old, and he it's incredible how good Julian 121 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: McMahon looks these days, Like he is so ruggedly handsome 122 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: in this film. It will take your breath away. That's 123 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: a man right there. He's that stuff. Paul he's fantastic 124 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: and he plays it so well, so it's a bit ambiguous, 125 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,119 Speaker 1: so you're never really sure if he is the villain 126 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: or he's he's actually a good bloke who's who sees 127 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage as sort of a project. He's trying to 128 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: help him or is he trying to hurt him? You 129 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: don't know, and and so that's it's it's kind of interesting. 130 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Some people will find that very frustrating that you sort 131 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: of don't really know what the heck is going on 132 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: and what it all means. At the end of it, 133 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: he's probably left questioning, you know, was there a point 134 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: to some of this stuff that happens? And there's some 135 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: pretty and Nicholas Cage, as always, he is a one 136 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: hundred percent committed to the role like he's he's apparently. 137 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: I was talking to the director about the movie and 138 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage said, you know what, like during the film, 139 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: when I'm going really mad, like let's have me drinking 140 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: out of a puddle of water in the car park 141 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: and the director's like, oh you sure, He's like, yeh know, 142 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: that'd be great, great. I just like I'll just down 143 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: on my hands, knees and I'm like, like a dog, 144 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: I'll lick, I'll lock at the water out of this pothole, 145 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: and the dredges like all right, And so the day 146 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: the day came to shoot that particular scene and they 147 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: set up like this silicon rubber in the pothole so 148 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: it was completely sanitary. So filled it up with water 149 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: and put in like fake cigarette butts and stuff like that. 150 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: And the dress is like, okay, Nick, you're ready to go, 151 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Like we're going to get you to drink out of 152 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: this pothole. That's a cool action. And Nick Cage is like, 153 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm not drinking out of the pothole joking. He's just 154 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: total ye' yes. So he's an interesting cat. Nicholas he 155 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: was Daniel d Lewis from a moment and he goes 156 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: four one hundred percent Nicolas Cage in this just quickly. 157 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: The surfer doesn't get a name, the kid doesn't get 158 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: a name, and that bum. 159 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Like they just even in the credits, it's just like 160 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: the surfer played by Nicholas Cage. The only one who 161 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: gets the name is Jillian mc mar's. 162 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: Caster in that theme, how many chips raffit is he. 163 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to give it a very solid three, very good. 164 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: Thank you guys.