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Speaker 1: Jumb Mission with joon Z and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Our next guest is the Icon, who sold more than

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Speaker 2: thirty million albums worldwide. He is the soundtrack to all

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Speaker 2: our eighties Endless Summer Nights. See what I did that

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Speaker 2: I did well. This Grammy Award winning songwriter has finally

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Speaker 2: written a memoir called Stories to Tell. We are thrilled

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Speaker 2: to have him on the show. Richard Marx, Hello.

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Speaker 3: My friends, how are you. I missed you guy, Well.

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Speaker 1: We miss you. It's been some time since we chatted,

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Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure last time we chatted, you didn't

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Speaker 1: mention anything about writing a book.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was top secret, my friend. It was, you

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Speaker 3: know it was. It was not even probably the last

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Speaker 3: time we spoke. I wasn't even sure if I would

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Speaker 3: ever released the book, you know it was. It was

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Speaker 3: always just a work in progress, just even my even

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Speaker 3: my families and my family didn't know I was working

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Speaker 3: on it until I got really serious about it and

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Speaker 3: then partnered up with a great publisher here in the

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Speaker 3: States Callsigner and Schuster, And then then I got real

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Speaker 3: serious about it, and so I wasn't really you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm like one of those people who doesn't talk too

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Speaker 3: much about what I'm working on until it's really real,

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Speaker 3: because I don't want somebody to come back to me

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Speaker 3: and say, hey, what about that thing? And I go, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that never happened. You know.

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Speaker 2: I love how you said to you, mate Springfield, when

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Speaker 2: he wrote an autobiography. You texted him and said, you're

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Speaker 2: either the bravest guy I know or the dumbest So.

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Speaker 3: Jerry, and the jury is still out, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: When Rick well, when Rick wrote his book, he sent

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Speaker 3: it to me and I that was my response to it,

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Speaker 3: because it was incredibly brave in that he he went there.

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Speaker 3: You know, he really he did not leave anything to imagination,

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Speaker 3: and he was that was his uh, that was that

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Speaker 3: he was. That was his truth, and that was how

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Speaker 3: he was going to do it. And I I respect that.

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Speaker 3: I just you know, I approached my book differently and

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Speaker 3: at I think, as I said to somebody the other day,

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Speaker 3: I wrote my book in a way that never violated

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Speaker 3: the integrity of my own privacy in that you know,

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Speaker 3: for people who want some kind of really tawdry Tello,

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Speaker 3: that's fine, but you're not going to get that from me.

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Speaker 1: Well, you get anyone that follows you on Twitter sees

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Speaker 1: yourself deprecating sense of humor, and there's a bit there way.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about having ten years where everything

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Speaker 1: you put out was a success, and then you put

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Speaker 1: out a record and you even joked that it went

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Speaker 1: double plywood. You know that must be hot as an.

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Speaker 3: Hostile it is, you know, But I think one of

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Speaker 3: one of the best compliments anybody ever gave me was

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Speaker 3: a friend of mine, maybe five or six years after

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Speaker 3: I'd sort of stopped having chart hits as an artist,

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Speaker 3: but I was now full on into writing and producing

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Speaker 3: for the people and having a great career doing that

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Speaker 3: and still performing here and there. We ended up having

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Speaker 3: conversation about the ebbs and flows of careers, and he

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Speaker 3: said to me, I think you, of all of all

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Speaker 3: the people I know, you were the most ready for

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Speaker 3: the fall. And I took that as a great compliment,

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Speaker 3: because there are some people I know who they still

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Speaker 3: can't really get over not being a star anymore, or

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Speaker 3: you know, having every record be on the charts or

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Speaker 3: And I always viewed that period of time, that ten

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Speaker 3: years or whatever, as finite. I always figured there was

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Speaker 3: some expiration date on it in terms of being you know,

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Speaker 3: having hits on the radio. That's for the most part,

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Speaker 3: that's a young person's game. And it was my turn

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Speaker 3: when I was young, and then I reached a point

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Speaker 3: where it wasn't my turn anymore. It was other people's turn.

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Speaker 3: And I you know, you can eat a bitch and

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Speaker 3: moan about it, or you can just carry on and

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Speaker 3: keep working.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's been a forty plus year career. Just extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting that you're writing about some experiences that

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Speaker 2: even your family don't know. Is it true that when

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Speaker 2: after reading the book, your son said, Hey, Dad, I

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Speaker 2: didn't know you held up at gunpoint in taiwan How casual?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, how could you have not told

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Speaker 3: us a story? Because I told them so many stories,

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Speaker 3: you know, even though I wrote in the book about

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Speaker 3: that experience in Taiwanan and it was a harrowing, frightening

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Speaker 3: a couple of days, I think I kind of blocked

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Speaker 3: a lot of it out. I mean, it is a

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Speaker 3: great story and it's a comb you know. I was

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Speaker 3: writing it, I was thinking, man, it feels like I'm

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Speaker 3: writing a Liam Neeson movie in this chapter, you know,

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Speaker 3: But I guess I must have had to have some

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Speaker 3: distance from it, because all I remember for a long

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Speaker 3: time was being terrified. It was, you know, there were

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Speaker 3: guys with machine guns, and our lives were being threatened,

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Speaker 3: and we we knew that these people could do whatever

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Speaker 3: they wanted to us and get away with it because

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Speaker 3: we were helpless.

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Speaker 2: If we're going to make a movie from the book,

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Speaker 2: Liam Neeson style, who should be playing you? You think.

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Speaker 3: John Stamos. I'm going to go with John. He's the

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Speaker 3: only guy that could do the hair correct.

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Speaker 1: And if John Stamos was to make a movie, you

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Speaker 1: could play him exactly.

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Speaker 3: He and I sort of have that deal. We if you,

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Speaker 3: if you follow either of us on Twitter. Every couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks, he and I have a Twitter battle. We

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Speaker 3: have a Twitter feud, and we insult each other relentlessly,

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Speaker 3: but only because we love each other.

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Speaker 1: And that's and that's the best way to be well. Richard,

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Speaker 1: it's always great to talk to you. The new memoir,

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Speaker 1: A Story to Tell is in all good bookstores today, Richard.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, My pleasure. Jonesy and Amanda's Domination